There's only a tiny little bit better than Kawai.

He's an amazing two way player.

So you don't think is it Final's MVPs averages?

You know he's the leading scorer on a deep on a playoff team, making a deep run.

He's one of the greatest defenders who ever lived.

He is four years younger.

When I say way better, Max, I mean the debate would last all of about three seconds.

It's no disrespect to quiet.

I like Kwai a lot.

Katie in your writing management were saying, Are we going after Katy Healthy or Kawai?

That debate last three seconds.

We're going after Kate through.

By the way, Jerry West was the original guide, a pair to compare Kawai to Michael Jordan.

Generally, West targeted Kawai.

If you ask Jerry West to probably knows more basketball than anyone who the best player in the league is, I've heard him refer to Kawai that way in the not too distant past.

I don't think you're right about that.

You may be right that the majority of executives would prefer a K D.

He's taller, right?

He's a pure scorer.

That's easy to see Max.

Let's pick up the younger pick up the phone.

Max, pick up the phone, call Jerry West and ask him what he feels about K D.

Are you dialing right now?

Who ever lived knows K.

D is a great player I'm talking about.

If you had your druthers, even if you like Katie a little better, he's four years old.

The same your time.

Four years 31 to 35.

You have access to him.

Pick up the phone and call him.

I listen to you what you're dialing, Max.

I listen to you guys live in earlier.

Is this injury worse for K D or worse for the Warriors?

And we can all see what's going on with the Warriors right now.

We can all see that that offense is hitting on all cylinders, but here's the deal.

Portland is the perfect opponent for the Warriors.

Without KD, Portland is the perfect opponent to see Steph and Clay go off.

And before this entire thing is over, the KD injury is gonna be worse for the Warriors than it is for Kevin Durant.

If they face off against Johannes and it looks like they will and the Bucks in the finals.

Then we're going to remember how much Katie was not a luxury but a necessity to this project.

Will the other thing that I want you?

Because again, my voice just just handled this with Max.

Watch Kawai.

There's a lot of dribble in that's going on in a lot of activity.

Before he shoots, K D could be on the bench.

He's watching everybody shoot, do their thing and then all of a sudden, things that not going right and Katie says, Okay, give me the ball.

Let me let me stop this bleeding.

Now go back to your regularly scheduled programming.

That's K D.

I will tell you why.

Loves having the ball is great as he is, and I've seen them take.

I've seen them stop the bleeding himself.

I'm not taking anything away from Hawaii because he is great, but KD offensively is on another level.

Well, I will say this on another K D is a better player than Kawai by a little bit, in fact, and even defensively K d has gotten to be an elite defender requires a better defender.

But I'll tell you this this playoffs, we've had a chance to compare the two, and they were the two best player in the playoffs.

And until Katie's injury, Kawai was measurably better when it was closed.

But by every single metric look at plus minus, look a p e o not telling you.

Look at the counting stats that you like so much.

Look at the supporting cast that makes it easier or harder for him.

Why was having objectively the best playoffs even better than Katie was having the second best playoffs in my primary trending way have to share?

No look at the last two games.

Quiets played.

Look at Game seven against the Sixers and look at Game one against the Bucks.

Which way is it trending, though, Matt, that's not fair.

Not still playing his shooting percentages.

Air going down, he's wearing out.

He's on the court way too long.

This colossus physical game you're playing doesn't last over the long, several reasons for that Number one.

That's not fair, because Kate, I'm being fair and saying, Let's stop it at the point, Katie got hurt so we can compare apples to apples.

You can compare them directly.

They were both great as I'm saying Kawai was a little better.

12 That's the whole point.

Kawai does not have Steph and Clay.

He doesn't have them.

If you wanted, like Kyle Lowry, what do we complain about?

Can he come through in the playoffs?

Siachen.

There's not even one other all star really on the team, No.

Four star players.

Therefore, Kawai draws much more attention that teams about him all the time.

In spite of that, he was more efficient.

They know why I don't like You know what?

You know.

I don't like listening the max on this subject because Max was, say all of that and be incredibly defined, which I respect.

But then you'll remind us how great you know K d to be.

And what I'm saying to you is intended that you know what I'm saying to you is did Steve tell you right now?

Candy que de once again, you interrupted cause you know, my voice is jacked up and I can't talk over you.

But at the end of the day, no K d is all world.

So make a decision and just leave it at that because you disrespected them the way you talk about polar, he's just too great for you to say that.

So say what?

You better So you're disrespecting Kawai because because you're ignoring the fact that K D has to defer to some degree because of who he is playing with.

I don't have to defer to anybody.

No, no.

In fact, he's heading show, you know, open because he's playing with please.

But Katie's been doing that ever since he came into the league he was doing in that Texas.

We're not talking about 10 years ago, which about right now, right talk about right now I'm talking about right now.

Five years ago, 10 years ago, 11 years ago, K D.

Has been doing what he's done his entire career at.

The University of Texas has a freshman.

So this was doing this.

If you want to call your careers, go ahead.

Talk about who's the baddest man on the planet right now, Katie.

I will write Not.

This is not a career.

Did send last year's well, you about, LeBron said last year.

Right now, way do 240 shows a year, and every time we bring up K d I say the same thing.

So I'm gonna tell you right now, even accusing me of pressing, saying something, saying something about a player by saying talking about how great he is that is called.

What was that?

Was the movie called about bowling?

That the Farrelly brothers Did you have a response to remember pulling a Munson that's called telling a Stephen A.

When you compliment coldest, even I have a response to that.

That's because Number one I'm far more critical and definitive and number two, I actually report.

So I have to go in report and talk to them as well.

And I'm arguing with them.

Half senses their face, so I get to do that.

Who's this now?

I'm not.

I know this guy is the greatest player ever, and he's tremendous all world and etcetera, etcetera.

But that's called the Stephen a Max.