defends himself and much more information coming up.

只是在自衛而已 隨後為您揭露更多消息

I'm Poppy Harlow and you're watching pew news (weird pop thing)

我是Poppy Harlow，您正在收看的是Pew News

Good Evening. I'm poppy Harlow you're watching pew news the most

晚安 我是Poppy Harlow，您現正收看的Pew News是...

...new site. As you may have heard PewDiePie got into trouble in the media recently (clears throat)

最新聞的新聞。也許你已經從新聞媒體得知Pewdiepie最近又惹上麻煩了（清喉嚨）

I hate that Guy

我討厭那傢伙

I don't even care that it was a deep-fried meme.

我才不管那個meme是不是炒冷飯

The fact that he posted it speaks volumes.

反正他貼了 他就要負責任

I feel like I'm probably better off not talking about this, but I want to share my thoughts. I didn't know much about Demi I...

其實我覺得我應該別講這個，但我想闡述我自己的想法（要記得常常在網路上分享個人意見喔） 我對Demi並不是很熟

I've only really just played her video game a few years ago, and I realized that...uh..

我只有在幾年前玩過以她為主題的手遊 當時我就發現...呃

It's for kids. She clearly has a very very young audience me to see that she's messing with drugs...

那是給小孩玩的 她的粉絲很顯然都非常年輕 從我的角度來看 她有毒癮這點

I just thought what an idiot. I'm not the greatest role model, but at least I've never done anything

我只覺得她很傻 我不是最佳模範，但至少我不曾做過

Straight-out illegal, so I thought well, you know, it's just fun to make- fine to just make fun of it and I realized now

任何明顯就是違法的事情 我當時覺得就是 你們懂的 開這種玩笑是很有...很OK的 然後我現在發現

No, no, it wasn't because a lot of people seem to doubt my sincerity

其實這一點都不OK 因為很多人都質疑我的誠意 我猜啦

I guess in some way. Just to give context it was 5 a.m. in the morning. Sometimes my dogs wake me up really early and uhh

我講一點事件細節 那時候是清晨5點 因為我的狗有時候真的這麼早就把我吵醒了

This has nothing to do with anything.

欸...其實...這個好像沒什麼關係

Basically, I saw the meme it made me laugh and I posted it on like Twitter. I went to sleep two hours.

反正就是 我當時看到這個meme 我覺得很好笑 所以就貼到Twitter上 然後再去多睡兩個小時

I woke up and um...

之後我醒來時 呃...

A lot of people were really upset to be honest. I didn't get it. I didn't get it at all.

還蠻多人炎上的 但老實說我當下真的不懂 完全不能理解

I'm not the one doing drugs. What the heck did I do?

我又不是唯一一個會講毒品問題的人 我到底做了啥鬼

The meme is so ironic and so stupid talking about like like a boss. I was like

這個meme很諷刺、很蠢 內容又一副很屌的樣子

She's still alive. What's the problem if anything, this is a way to snap out of it like yeah, you were an idiot.

我當時想的是她還活著欸 這沒什麼問題吧？ 我覺得這是一種諷刺手法 其實就是在諷刺她很傻

So the fact that people came after me, I was just I was really trying to understand why so I read up on addiction

所以對於大家炎上這點 我很努力想去了解到底為什麼 所以我認真研究了毒癮的相關知識

I try to decipher in between the 'you should burn in fire'

我試著去了解別人留言「你應該被燒死」的動機

messages cause- also a lot of people are saying that I was making fun of mental health.

因為很多人說我以取笑心理健康為樂

Which no that wasn't the case at all. I was making fun of Demi and her poor choices.

但其實根本不是這樣 我是以Demi和她糟糕的選擇為樂

Cause a lot of people were like 'Well you talked about mental help a few days ago in a video. You're such a hypocrite'

很多人覺得說 「欸你前幾天才在影片裡面講到心理治療，你這樣也太虛偽了吧」

I wasn't doing that. I was making fun of Demi for her poor decision. I realized and I learned that

我並沒有取笑心理問題，我只是因為Demi做了愚昧的決定而以她為樂 但後來我得知並學到

ostracizing and shaming is the last thing an addict needs to recover cause that's just going to make them more likely to

毒癮在戒除過程中最不需要的就是被屏棄或羞辱 因為這只會讓他們

Relapse and fall back into that behavior. What an addict needs is support and help from

繼續沈迷在毒癮中 而成癮者需要的就是來自家人朋友的支持與幫助

friends and family and I think the public as well. And I also learned that this is her second time

我想大眾也應該要給予正面關懷 然後我也才得知 原來這是她第二次染上毒癮

She's dealt with drugs. I just thought I'm really just kicking on someone that's on their complete lowest

她曾經戒毒過 所以我發覺我真的戳到了她心中最深刻的痛

I get why people are upset this was wrong for me to do it was a bad thing to do

我才明白為什麼大家這麼生氣 而我也做了件很糟糕的事

I don't think it was the worst thing in the world, but it wasn't a nice thing

我不覺得這是世界上最過分的事，但它也絕不是好事

I can definitely say that. So I thought okay. You know what? I'll just delete it and I'll apologize.

我想我可以這麼認為 所以我覺得好吧 我就把這篇文刪掉並道歉

sincerely and

真誠地道歉

That should be it.

然後這樣應該就沒問題了

How foolish I am...

我真是傻逼...

I always get people telling me

常常有人跟我說

Stop apologizing. You idiot. What are you doing? You're just making things worse.

「不要再道歉了，你傻逼喔，你在幹什麼啊？你只是讓情況變得更糟」

Any time you apologize to these people they don't care and they're just gonna shame you even more. I think that's what happened.

「每次你跟人道歉時，那些人才不罷休，他們只會更加欺負你」我覺得這句話確實是事實

BBC posted about it. NBC posted about it. BuzzFeed.

BBC有報導這件事、NBC也有，還有BuzzFeed

I think the BuzzFeed journalists on her Twitter call it the hell fire or something like that.

我記得BuzzFeed的記者好像在自己的Twitter上把這件事稱作地獄之火還什麼的

Like this is the hell we live in it's like Geez!

彷彿有這種事情發生的世界就跟地獄沒兩樣 一副「我的天啊怎麼會有這種事」

But I feel like if I think I've done something wrong...

但我覺得，如果我真的做了什麼不對的事

I shouldn't have the ego or the strategy to just say no, it's better if I don't apologize.

我就不會有那個臉或"手段"說不，我不道歉還比較好

a lot of people were saying that anyone could have posted this meme and no one would bat an eye and I I

很多人也說其他人如果貼這個meme根本沒什麼大不了

Think there is some truth to that

我覺得這個某種程度上來說也是事實

I find it interesting how you have someone that's a role model to a lot of kids you make a message about how

我覺得這很有趣 作為一個有很多小孩崇拜的公眾人物

Much better you are now and then you just fall back into the same pain and somehow I'm the bad role model in this

你分享過你自己目前過得多棒的故事 結果自己又二度走偏 但我在這樣的情況下

Situation, huh? I'm the villain for just posting a meme about it. It doesn't really make sense to me, and I'm not attacking her

卻莫名是反派？我只是貼了一個關於這件事的meme，就是反派了？ 我覺得這完全不合理 我並不是在攻擊她

I'm just saying that a lot of people were saying that it's not her fault for her addiction. It's an addiction

我只是在說很多人覺得她重新染上毒癮不是她的錯，因為那是毒"癮"嘛

She can't control it and I agree

她無法控制毒癮 而我也同意就是

She shouldn't be shamed because of an addiction, but I also don't think babying people will help either

她不應該以有毒癮為恥，但我也不覺得這樣呵護她會有幫助

Saying that it's completely out of someone's control is also saying that it's not up to them to recover from it

當你說毒癮完全無法由當事人控制，其實也是在說 他們戒毒也不是靠他們的意志力 因為他們控制不了毒癮

It's like saying anyone that recovered from addiction didn't do it from their own work

講得就好像 戒毒的人都不是靠自身的努力和毅力成功的

And will it's just a completely random ven, which doesn't make any sense

都只是完全隨機發生啦，這想法完全不合理啊

it's always been a meme on this channel that anything I say will be picked up on the media and

常常有這麼一個梗就是 我在這個頻道上說過的任何話都可以變成新聞

I feel like this was just a testimony of that mean like that's it's a truth essentially anything I say will be

我覺得可以由這件事情證實這個梗啦 完全真的就是 我說了啥

highlighted they will jump on any

他們都可以包裝成新聞

reason to

不管用任何理由

put down my name because if they really cared about these issues about

然後來損壞我的名譽 因為如果他們真的很關心這個議題

addiction they would go after the people that that shed a light on it in a positive way not the ones that try and

如果他們真的很關心毒癮 他們就應該會去找相關的正面新聞 而不是找一個失敗的案例

Ridicule it. I don't know. I don't care moving on

然後拿來炒作 嗯隨便啦 我才不管 繼續

I wasn't gonna talk about this, but it came on today and I watched it

我本來也沒有要講這個，不過今天我剛好看了影片

I thought it was so crazy that I had to talk about. It kz9 said there's an interview with Logan Paul and man I

我覺得這真的是狂到我不得不提 CaseyNeistat說過會訪談Logan Paul 但是

Want to like you Logan I swear but you making it really hard and I find this super interesting cos KZ and Logan are

老天 我真的想嘗試喜歡你啊Logan 可是你一直在提高難度 我覺得這個影片超級有趣 因為Casey和Logan

very similar personalities, they're all about pushing the edge of

他們的個性很像，他們都喜歡遊走在邊緣

Living life to the fullest but their drives are just completely opposite

但兩者完全是不同方向

I think it means falling into the social medium machine

至少我是這麼覺得啦 （我過去四年來都是社交媒體焦點）

Over the past four years building an audience

（並透過觀看數建立起觀眾群，累積我不大正面的"影響力"）

Garnering false power through views which equates to money which equates to against success and

（尤其觀看數代表了錢、代表著所謂的"成功"）

Then essentially losing it all

（但我突然就失去所有）

overnight becoming

（就在一夜之間，然後變成）

the most hated man in the world

（全世界大家最討厭的人）

in the snap of a finger

（就好像彈指一般）

So the hyperbole every single time the most hated man

他每一次都這麼誇張 「全世界大家最討厭的人」

Casey asked lo at Logan about this documentary that he's filming and

Casey問Logan關於Logan最近在拍的紀錄片 還有整起事件

About the whole incident. Is this a fluff piece to make people feel better about Logan Paul? No, no, not at all this. It's it's

（你覺得你這個紀錄片會讓大家對Logan Paul的印象轉好嗎？） （不、不，才不會，這個、這...）

from

（是拍）

Making content throughout the years. I try to be as unbiased as possible and

（我這幾年下來拍影片的過程，我盡可能保持中立角度去拍）

this

這個

Documentary is going to be as unbiased as possible, but it's me who makes it

紀錄片會盡可能保持中立角度，不過是我自己拍的喔

Okay, great

好喔，沒問題

I'm sure we very unbiased think people should can or will sympathize with me

我相信我們超級中立der

Let's be honest Casey. Like let's be honest Casey. I don't know Marcus

（我不覺得大家會、或者能夠多少同情我）

I see through your social training Logan

（我們誠實說吧，Casey）

When you put out content like that, do you realize the age of your audience? It's odd because Michael I'm 22 years old

我們誠實說吧，Casey

It's not like I don't know why but whenever I see small things like this. I know I'm nitpicking

我不確定欸，Marcus

it feels

我明白你的社交禮儀啦Logan

Disingenuous is it not?

（當你推出那種影片時，你有想過你的觀眾年齡層很低嗎？） （這樣說有點怪，Michael，我22歲了，並不是...）

Premature like it before you can tell a redemption story. There has to be an act of redemption

我不懂為啥，但每次我發現這種小地方...我知道我吹毛求疵啦

true

但這種小地方讓人

What is the act of redemption bin for Logan Paul? It's it's not been done yet

感覺很沒誠意

That's Logan is talking about how this documentary is going to be his redemption story because people love it a redemption story

（你這樣會不會有點不成熟，你說紀錄片是一個贖罪的故事，但你得先要有贖罪的行為）

People told me this

（是）

Verbatim so many times that you shouldn't you need to do your redemption

（那Logan Paul為了贖罪做了哪些？） （我、我還沒去做啦）

You need to film a documentary people told me this many times

Logan說的是這個紀錄片會是關於他贖罪的故事 因為大家都愛看改邪歸正的故事嘛

That's how you'll do your comeback and people are telling Logan the same thing and that's why it's doing this documentary

大家都這樣逐字跟我說很多次了

Just like people told me after the wall street journal that I need to do a charity

「你需要去做點事贖罪」

For Jewish charities or something like that, and I said no

「你要去拍紀錄片」人們這樣跟我說很多次了

Not because I don't want to because but because it will seem like the most disingenuous thing ever

你要回歸都要這麼做，大家也是把同樣道理講給Logan聽 所以這就是為什麼他要拍紀錄片

You're not doing it because you want to you're doing it to save your brand and people are smart enough to see through those things

就像大家跟我說，華爾街日報事件過後，我得做慈善

the rat Casey has

還得幫猶太人做慈善還幹嘛的，但我說不

Logan about the red, you know as soon as this forest incident

不是因為我不想幫猶太人，只是因為這樣做的話就很沒有誠意了

He tastes the rat or whatever

你不去做是因為你不想做 你去做了就是去挽救你的頻道 大家都不蠢，這種事大家都看得出來

Why what was up with that? Yeah, the rat was that was me

（那隻老鼠）

Becoming obsessed with the idea of being a villain. I just I made the conscious decision

Casey有問Logan關於那隻老鼠的事，就在森林事件沒多久發生的事

I'm gonna I'm gonna be the guy they think I am I can actually

他電擊了老鼠還幹嘛的

Relate to Logan here a lot of times

為何...那隻老鼠是哪裏惹到你了？ （沒錯，那隻老鼠是表示我...）

After all the scandals I've been through I question my own morals. I question. Why do I keep ending up in?

（我的腦袋被當個壞人的想法所佔據，那是我有意識的決定）

These situations and a lot of times I find the answer to be I am genuinely a bad person. I do die

（我決定要當大家認為我應該是什麼樣子的人）

I genuinely think it a lot of times not all the times

這部分我能夠理解Logan的想法，很多時候

But I think the difference is I'm not trying to make other people think

每次在我經歷過醜聞之後，我都會捫心自問自己的道德觀 我都會問自己 為啥每次事件都要把自己搞成這樣？

I'm a good person

很多時候，我的答案都是 因為我真的就是個壞人

I can make content and I have been for four years

很多時候我真的都這樣想，雖然沒有一直都是啦

For four years making people laugh smile believing themselves making them believe that they can accomplish their goals

我覺得差異在於，我不是要讓其他人覺得

Even if they're from a small town in, Ohio, I've been making videos for eight years

我是一個好人

I just want to show people that you can make it. Even if you're just from a small town in Sweden

（我拍影片，而且這樣拍了四年）

What are you saying to use that same pretext as?

（有整整四年都在逗觀眾開心，讓他們有自信、相信自己能完成個人夢想）

Sort of justification for you know killing a rat or why didn't kill the rat

（就算他們是來自，俄亥俄州的一個小鎮）

Just shut up. It doesn't matter at this point don't defend these things. It's the same with me

我拍影片已經八年了

When I drop the n-bomb

我只是想讓大家明白你們也能做到，就算你們是來自瑞典的一個小鎮

A lot of people were like, he said it to another person and I always want to say no

你在公啥啦

No one heard me say it, but I'm not gonna use that defense because it doesn't matter

（你用同樣的藉口）

That's not what people took out of it some of the other more controversial sensational things you've done

（當作某種合理原因來...你懂，殺老鼠..） （為什麼不殺老鼠？）

Yeah, running around Japan wearing silly outfits. Yeah, so that Union sensitive to culture apparently for some reason

*想偷笑*

Casey calls

你閉嘴啦，都這種時候還為了這點小事爭執幹嘛

Casey calling Logan culturally insensitive. It's the most upsetting thing ever for him. I want to address this cuz

這跟我那時講n-word的情況相同

I'm not gonna lie. This is the the hardest thing about all this is I

很多人都覺得我是在跟別人講話，但其實我一直很想說

Think being perceived as culturally insensitive

那只是自言自語，但我不會拿這個來還擊，因為是不是自言自語根本不重要

I'm not gonna lie, but the hardest thing out of all this it's the fact that you just called me

大家又不是因為這點生氣的

culturally insensitive

（關於有些你做過但很有爭議的敏感事情）

That's okay I are we expected to believe that or

（比方說穿著愚蠢服裝在日本到處跑來跑去，對文化不夠敏感）

As far as the outfits go they were on sale at a store the outfits were on sale on their store so then it's okay

很明顯基於一些原因

Right next to the temple that we were at

Casey說Logan缺乏文化敏感度，這是最讓Logan心煩的一件事

For tourists do we not buy the outfits? Maybe he just doesn't understand what it is. There's a difference between culturally insensitive and

（對於這點我有話想說，因為）

insensitive, but it also doesn't matter and you don't seem to understand why one is offensive anyway, so

（我不會說謊，這是這起事件中最讓我痛苦的一件事）

I'm vegan. Now I

（就是被認為缺乏文化敏感度）

Think the most important thing to take out of this video is this I'm vegan now

*有點可愛*

Why do you think you being vegan is relevant to anything doing what you want to do to achieve your goals

我不會說謊，但最讓我痛苦的一件事就是你剛剛說我

Which is all like I said, it's always been that but all that stuff is overlooked

缺乏文化敏感度

When you make mistake, or I can agree again with Logan here. He's done good

好、好啦...我們應該要相信這個...？

I mean, I don't agree with it, but he thinks he's done good like inspiring kids and I can relate to that

（我們穿的衣服都是店裡打折的）

I think I've done a lot of positive for in with my channel as well that never gets highlighted

那是店裡的特價服飾，所以沒有問題啦

But I don't feel the need to constantly tell people like I'm a good person. Look I do it done all these things

（而且那家店就在那間寺廟旁邊，還是專門開給觀光客的，而且我們有買衣服啊）

I don't know these charities. I don't know these things. Look I'm a good person. That shouldn't be your mission to keep reminding people

也許他就是搞不清楚狀況吧

so then Logan talks about how it led up to all this scandal like he was just

（文化敏感度和文化不敏感有所差異）

Constantly making videos and not thinking what he was doing. We got so caught up in

可是這根本不重要好嗎，總之你看起來就不懂為什麼其中一者有貶義

Creating that we did not stop to think about what we were making and whether or not it was right

（我現在吃素了）

Because it you make it you put it out

我覺得這部影片的精華重點就是「我現在吃素了」

We were on autopilot essentially which is it's it's extremely dangerous when you're broadcasting to an audience of five to seven million people every day

我現在吃素了，我是一個好人

And so there was no thinking there was it was create content create content create content not okay

為什麼你覺得你吃素很重要啊？

Hey, take a step back. Slow down breathe. Do you believe that or is that bullshit?

（做任何你想做的事來達成你的目標）

Because if that's if that mission is the same as this this momentum this autopilot

（這一點...就像我說的，我一直都有在做事，但只要你犯錯了，大家都會忽略這些）

Where's the distinction between wanting to do good and wanting to you know, looking for sensationalism that will drive clicks?

這部分我贊同Logan，他有做好事...

I'm not I'm not sure I understand the question

我的意思是，我不覺得他有做好事，但是他覺得他自己有，比方說激勵小孩之類的

That's such a great question I'm not I'm not sure I understand Chris. Hey, this is too much of a mumbo-jumbo

然後我覺得，我自己在頻道上也有做不少正面的事情 但從來就沒有媒體要報

He's saying that if you're just on autopilot, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, how can they you say?

不過我覺得不需要去一直提醒大家我是一個好人 嘿大家看看我做的這些善舉

That you care about spreading a positive message and not just caring about sensationalism. I understand I understand

我捐錢給慈善機構、我捐了這些東西，看，我是好人 你的責任才不是一直提醒大家這點

Okay, I can go on pick details whatever you should watch you interview it's interesting a lot of people gave Casey

接著Logan就提到森林事件是怎麼發生的

Or doing this. I think it's good to create a

他說他只是照常拍影片，沒有特別去思考他的所作所為

Dialogue it's a shame how people are so militant towards people. They don't like that. They won't even talk to them

（我們一直都忙著推出不同影片）

Because that's really how you create division more than anything, which is leads to more hate

（我們沒有停下來去思考我們拍的到底有何意義，也不管對不對）

I think is he's doing a noble thing. But the final point I find hilarious because Casey praises Logan's

（因為你拍了、然後就發佈出去）

Anti-suicide video that the video he did after the whole thing and the response from Logan

（最後就變得很自動化，這其實很危險，因為每天都有500萬到700萬的觀眾在看你的影片）

It's just that video. I think had a very important message behind. It was a I liked that video

（所以我們沒時間停下來省思，因為就只有不斷創作、創作、創作）

I tweeted that I liked that video I get for it

（並不會說，好喔我們退一步，慢下來深呼吸） （你還是信這套？還是你覺得這都是幹話？）

but did it show you sort of the

（因爲如果、如果你拍紀錄片的目的還是跟你剛提到的創作幹勁、自動化一樣）

Demonstrate to you that your channel is capable of so much more

（那想要改正跟，你知道，想要用新穎內容來吸引觀看數有什麼差別？）

And your reach is capable and your voice is capable of so much more than just in socialism views. Yes

（我、我不太確定我懂不懂你在問什麼）

Did it change you away from?

Casey問了一個很棒的問題 「我、我不太確定我懂不懂你的問題」 這真的是太北爛了

Sensationalism and views that what is a question his answer. It's it's the most viewed suus anti-suicide

Casey的意思是，如果你只是一直創作然後發布，沒有去思考你的所作所為，那你怎麼能說

PSA ever. It's the most

你在散播正面訊息，而沒有在意內容夠不夠勁爆

viewed ever

（我明白、我明白） （你真的懂嗎？Casey）

I am so great. I