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  • >> Linda M. Collins: It's been 50 years

  • since the first Surgeon General's report on smoking.

  • I was a little kid at the time, when it came out,

  • but I remember it really well even though I was small.

  • Because I remember my father's reaction to the report.

  • Like many smokers at the time, he was stunned to learn

  • that the habit he enjoyed could be lethal,

  • and could eventually lead to lung cancer.

  • He quit smoking as a result of reading that report,

  • and so did many other people.

  • Things are different now, of course,

  • many fewer people smoke.

  • It's no longer permissible to smoke in public places

  • like restaurants and airplanes,

  • but smoking remains the number one preventable cause

  • of death.

  • Not only worldwide, but just here in the United States.

  • In the United States alone,

  • the equivalent of the entire population of the City

  • of Atlanta dies every year as a result of cigarette smoking.

  • And perhaps even more disturbing,

  • the equivalent of the undergraduate population here

  • at University Park, dies every year as a result

  • of breathing in passive smoke.

  • These are non-smokers dying as a result

  • of other people smoking.

  • And think about that, it's not just the freshman,

  • not just the sophomores, and not just one year,

  • but every year, the equivalent

  • of the entire undergraduate population here.

  • Smoking is a really serious public health hazard,

  • and it's everyone's problem, not just a problem for smokers.

  • A lot of research has shown that most smokers,

  • the majority of smokers, would like to quit.

  • Nicotine is a very addictive substance,

  • and it's really difficult to quit smoking.

  • Fortunately, there are behavioral interventions

  • that have been developed to help people quit smoking.

  • A behavior intervention is an evidence-based program aimed

  • at helping people change a particular focused

  • health behavior.

  • Now human behavior is complex,

  • smoking is a complex behavior,

  • and so behavioral interventions

  • for smoking cessation are complex too,

  • they're usually made up of a number of different components.

  • So, for example, a behavioral intervention

  • for smoking cessation might include pre-cessation

  • counseling, to help an individual get prepared to quit.

  • Supervised practice quit attempts,

  • so that the person will have a sense of what it's

  • like when they quit smoking for real.

  • Counseling offered across the entire quitting process,

  • in person and possibly over the phone

  • to help the person stay on track.

  • And a pharmaceutical, such as nicotine replacement therapy,

  • and many behavioral interventions include pharmaceuticals.

  • In the year 2000, the nation set goals

  • for the year 2010, health goals.

  • And the goal they set for adult smoking was

  • to reduce the prevalence of adult smoking

  • from the level it was at that time, in 2000,

  • which was about 24 percent to 12 percent.

  • When those goals were reviewed in 2010,

  • we found that we had not met that goal.

  • At that time, in 2010,

  • the prevalence of adult smoking had dropped only

  • about 3 percentage points, to 21 percent.

  • So, when new goals were set for the year 2020,

  • the same goal was set, to reduce the prevalence

  • of adult smoking to 12 percent.

  • Now let's think about that for a second.

  • We didn't not -- we did not make that goal in the year,

  • for the year 2010, what are our chances

  • of making it for the year 2020?

  • I'm optimistic that we can make that goal,

  • but in order to make it,

  • we need more effective behavioral interventions

  • for smoking cessation.

  • And I think the only way we can get those more,

  • those much more effective behavioral interventions

  • for smoking cessation is to develop behavioral interventions

  • in a radically different way

  • from the way we've been doing it up until now.

  • Let's take another goal that was set by the American people,

  • one that we met much more successfully

  • than the smoking cessation goal.

  • In 1961, President John F. Kennedy challenged the nation

  • to put humans on the moon and bring them back safely

  • by the end of the decade.

  • We met that goal resoundingly.

  • In 1969, two humans walked on the moon and came home

  • to tell us about it.

  • Let's take a look at how NASA approached that goal,

  • and compare it with the way behavioral science is going

  • about developing smoking cessation interventions.

  • NASA knew that it had to engineer a spacecraft

  • that could carry people to the moon and bring them back,

  • and what do I mean by engineer a spacecraft?

  • They knew that they had to work programmatically

  • and systematically toward this goal of landing humans

  • on the moon and bringing them back successfully.

  • They started with a set of components that were candidates

  • for inclusion in a prototype spacecraft.

  • They examined, empirically, the performance of each

  • of those components, and also looked at how they performed

  • with other components that they had to work with.

  • Any component that wasn't working properly,

  • or didn't work well with other components,

  • was either revised or removed or replaced.

  • Only when they had a set of components

  • where they understood the operation

  • of the components really well,

  • they were confident that each component was making an

  • important contribution doing what it was supposed to do,

  • only then would they build a prototype rocket and launch it.

  • Did any of those prototype spacecraft fail?

  • Yes, a number of them failed.

  • But here's the important thing,

  • because of the way they worked, every spacecraft was better

  • than the one before it.

  • Every prototype was better than the one

  • that had preceded it.

  • And they worked carefully and incrementally

  • until eventually they had a spacecraft

  • that they were confident could bring astronauts to the moon.

  • Let's compare that with the way behavioral science is

  • operating today to develop smoking cessation interventions.

  • I said before that smoking cessation interventions are made

  • up of a number of different components,

  • so the starting point is a set of components

  • that are candidates for inclusion

  • in the behavioral intervention,

  • but instead of empirically examining the performance of each

  • of these components, weeding through the ones

  • that don't work, selecting the ones that do work,

  • replacing the ones that don't work,

  • behavioral science today, the state-of-the-art is

  • to go directly from that list of components,

  • put together a behavioral intervention and test it,

  • in a randomized clinical trial.

  • That clinical trial is the equivalent

  • of NASA's rocket launch.

  • What's the problem with that approach?

  • The problem is that if in the clinical trial it turns

  • out that the intervention worked, that's great,

  • but we don't know why it worked.

  • If it turns out that the intervention,

  • that the intervention failed, it didn't work,

  • we don't know why it didn't work.

  • And either way, we're left without knowing,

  • what are the steps we need to take

  • so that the next intervention we develop is better

  • than this one?

  • In the 50 years since the Surgeon General's report,

  • a lot of time, money,

  • and expertise has gone into development

  • of behavioral interventions for smoking cessation,

  • and there are a lot of different interventions out there.

  • And yet we have not been working programmatically toward

  • better, and better, and better behavioral interventions.

  • This, essentially, trial and error approach where a set

  • of components is immediately assembled

  • and tried out in a clinical trial is not getting us toward

  • better, and better, and better behavioral interventions.

  • Instead, what if we took a page from NASA's book?

  • What if we started using engineering approaches

  • to develop behavioral interventions?

  • I'm involved in a project to do exactly this.

  • This project is funded by the National Cancer Institute,

  • and it's a collaborative endeavor involving scientists

  • from the University of Wisconsin, the University of Illinois

  • at Chicago, and Penn State.

  • We've assembled a set of 15 components that are candidates

  • for inclusion in a smoking cessation intervention.

  • We're examining the performance of these 15 components

  • in a set of 3 randomized experiments.

  • These experiments are taking place

  • in ordinary healthcare settings,

  • where you might go if you needed a routine doctor visit,

  • but each of these healthcare settings uses the electronic

  • health record, so if an individual is a smoker,

  • that popped up at check-in,

  • and they were invited to take part in the experiments.

  • The experiments are over, we've collected the data.

  • We're in the process of analyzing it now.

  • The data will tell us which of the components is working

  • and which are not working.

  • And based on that, we'll be able

  • to engineer a behavioral intervention.

  • An example of the kind of decision we'll be making based

  • on the data is we'll be able to tell whether a longer

  • or shorter duration of nicotine replacement is better.

  • Our goal is to engineer a highly-effective behavioral

  • intervention that also costs a reasonable amount

  • to implement, because we believe it's important

  • that the intervention be not only highly effective,

  • but also practical to implement.

  • Our hope is that after we've developed this behavioral

  • intervention, the work of others

  • and possibly our future work will develop another new

  • intervention that is more effective,

  • or perhaps equally effective, but cost -- but less costly.

  • Or better in some other incremental way.

  • The idea is to just to keep getting better,

  • and better, and better.

  • Is it feasible to take this engineering approach

  • to developmental behavioral interventions?

  • Yes, it's completely feasible.

  • This engineering approach does not cost any more

  • than today's trial and error approach.

  • The field of engineering has developed a lot

  • of very efficient approaches to experimentation.

  • Of course, experimentation and engineering is different

  • from experimentation that involves human subjects,

  • but a number of scientists, myself included,

  • are working on ways of adapting approaches that are

  • in wide use in engineering for use

  • in the behavioral sciences.

  • Imagine if we engineered behavioral interventions.

  • The approach I'm talking about today can be used not just

  • for smoking cessation, but for behavioral interventions

  • for lots of other areas.

  • Treatment of alcohol abuse.

  • Treatment of drug abuse.

  • Treatment of obesity.

  • Helping people to comply better

  • with chronic disease regimens,

  • such as regimens for diabetes and HIV.

  • Or any other area of health behavior

  • that you can imagine this approach could be used for.

  • If we engineer behavioral interventions, over time,

  • they will systematically

  • and incrementally become not only more effective,

  • but more efficient, more cost effective,

  • and just more practical, so that they can reach more people.

  • Can we meet the goal of reducing the prevalence

  • of adult smoking to 12 percent

  • by the year 2020 or even go further?

  • I think we can if we take a page from NASA's book

  • and engineer behavioral interventions.

  • Thank you.

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