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(interviewer) Imagine ourselves 400 years ago.
They had about a 15% literacy rate.
And I suspect that if you were to talk to someone who could read back then
and ask them, "What percentage of the population do you think is capable of
reading?" They might have said, " Well, maybe 20%, 25%."
Now you fast forward 400 years, we know that's a wildly pessimistic
prediction or assumption. But it's actually 99.99% of the population
is capable of reading. Well, what similar blinders do we have on today?
So, I'm excited to have Carol Dweck here, one of my personal heroes and
who strongly influenced a lot of the work at Kahn Academy.
Carol, great to have you here.
(Carol) Pleasure to be here Sal.
(Sal) So, so, what I like
to start off with this word: growth mindset.
Which I believe you came up with.
(Carol) Mmhm. (Sal) Um, when did you come up
with that? What was the motivation and what is it?
(Carol) A growth mindset is when
students believe that their abilities can be developed. A fixed mindset is
when they think, "I just have a certain amount and that's it."
(Sal) This isn't just kind of feel good talk,
this is actually based in science, that you actually,
the brain actually does grow stronger, neural connections actually do form
when you struggle.
(Carol) In study after
study we have shown that kids
who have a growth mindset get higher grades. It's not a choice
between the outcome and the mindset. It shows that, if kids engage deeply and
effectively in a learning process, their grades and test scores are a natural
byproduct. Kids who are praised for their intelligence, our research shows,
don't want a challenge afterwards, they don't want to work hard on something, and
if they had difficulty, that's it. We find that when we praise or parents praise
the process the child engages in, their hard work, but not just hard work, their
strategies, their ideas, their focus, their perseverance, then the student
learns these are the ingredients of success. If it gets harder,
I'll just do these things. We've already done work
with you, uh, inserting growth mindset statements before a math
problems, and we found together that kids did better.
(Sal) So one thing that I hope is,
the folks listening to these videos, go out there and tell
their parents, tell their children, tell their peers, tell their teachers, tell
their students about growth mindset. Tell them that their brain grows when
they get a question wrong, when they
struggle, when they look at their errors and
they say, "Hey, that's an interesting!" That you shouldn't be
ashamed of your mistake, that you should view that as something
that is interesting; something to explore. When you do that, you will
actually, physically, form neural connections. Your brain will
actually grow.