really good question my first intro into contemporary color was that I went to a

big American high school not too dissimilar from Friday Night Lights

except for it was in a bigger town in Dallas Texas and what I know about

contemporary color from those days is that they weren't the football team they

weren't the cheerleaders they weren't the high school band they were this

really kind of bizarre underground subculture of I guess what stemmed from

a military stick dance but then really flowered into its own its own world so I

I knew about their color guard because they would be rehearsing on the lawn and

throwing the the toy rifles and waving the flag liberation work the way it

worked in various artists were teamed up with different color guard teams and

these color guard teams had already had this routine that they've been working

on that they'd refine that was again their performance the dance the throwing

of the rifles in the flags and essentially what I did is get a video of

their dance and then restore it so you reverse engineer the color guard yeah

exactly and it was a bizarre challenge because like a lot of dances go

different very different tempos in different time signatures and moments of

reprieve

and my particular team is based on the idea of a lunatic and somebody in a

mental institution so yes but I'm thrilled to work with them and

apparently they stay in character

the entire time they where they have all dyed their hair read for the part not I

don't think that's any slight on gingers I think it's just part of part of the

aesthetic and the director of the color guard is also a fashion designers are

he's designed all the costumes and with any luck I will be wearing one of the

costumes they asked me to dye my hair red but I said I couldn't because it's

was already falling out from the white hair

let's talk about your lyrics because there is one of the ways I describes a

visit to myself in my head is carrying terrible events you often found the

sweetest when you're most scary theater when I was in high school and I remember

one of the tenets of that being if you have something really have some big big

anger to express herself

big moment to explore a lot of time it's it's a lot creepier to whisper that to

scream in another class I want to ask about your stage a couple of times in

which blows my mind as it blows my mind if everybody it's it's it's

choreographed how have you folks seen as I hope some of you doing

you doing with their choreography any be partisan but what did you tell her you

wanted I mean for someone like me she will perhaps think about what will look

good in my body in what I'll be actually be able to inhabit as someone who's not

a trained dancer and her most one of the most interesting things about her is

that she loves to work with novices who have no dance baggage from what I

understand about the way anybody work sometimes is that she will essentially

listen to a piece of music and suggests words that are like poetry and she

relies on a concept that she calls first thought best thought so she works with

incredible dancers will say a word like insular and then someone will react to

it and the way that is instinctual

go through a number of words and a number of reactions by the dancers and

then whittle it down and codify until it's a piece so it's ultimately very

collaborative

I'm not aware this could just be my ignorance about the dance world but I'm

not aware of any other choreographer who works in that specific way to me it felt

like the movement is another another layer of rhythm and ideas on top of the

words on top of the music on top of the drugs it's just one more mind blowing

thing you're throwing out of the same time also I mean that's how our brain

works if we stand in some victori victorious posed for an hour this way

people like to do yoga we start to feel victorious I mean it

it's it's as neurological for me as it is for the audience to polls in your

work between control and chaos because you're through the years and the guitar

comes out of nowhere like you or your your choreographed shows now you're also

completely in control but you can go haywire at the end like he did in Austin

or whatever it is you must think a lot about control versus both in your music

I think a lot about control I don't think very much brought chaos that just

comes in Loch Ness monster