urban planning, environmental planning, some variation of that name,

都市計畫、環境規劃、諸如此類的名稱，

but not everyone comes to their masters program with a background or a bachelor's degree in city planning.

但不是每個人攻讀碩士學程時都具備城市規劃的背景或相關學士學位。

Generally the requirement is just that you have to have a bachelor's degree.

最基本的需求就是你必須有學士學歷。

A lot of times people do have something related to urban planning as their bachelor's degree.

很多人的學士學歷都有跟都市計畫相關的部分。

So, a geography degree, a community development degree,

像是地理學學位、社區發展學位、

economics, sociology, environmental science.

經濟學、社會學、環境科學。

These are all things that actually do prepare you for an urban planning graduate program.

這些東西其實都可以讓你在攻讀都市計畫碩士學程時做好準備。

The graduate program I attended required that

我攻讀的碩士學程要求我們

between our first and second year of grad school that

在研究所第一年與第二年之間，

we complete a two month internship and that was really valuable.

需要完成兩個月的實習，那真的很有價值。

I was able to secure a paid internship at Oregon Metro,

我在俄勒岡大眾運輸獲得了一份帶薪實習，

which is Portland, Oregon's Metro Regional Government and I worked on a climate change report there.

那是俄勒岡州波特蘭市政府大眾運輸部門的工作，而我在那裏撰寫一份氣候變遷報告。

Throughout my two years at graduate school

在我讀研究所的兩年中，

was employed by an organization called the Institute For Environmental Negotiation

我被環境協商研究所雇用，

and that was the first experience I had with outreach on sea level rise issues.

那是我首次將專業拓展至與海平面上升議題有關的經歷。

We worked in coastal Virginia and talked to people about their experiences with coastal flooding.

我們在維吉尼亞海岸工作，與人們談論他們經歷的海岸氾濫經驗。

Those are valuable things to look out for when you look at a graduate program is

這些東西當你在選擇攻讀的碩士學程時，都是很有價值的參考內容，

what kind of resources do they have to support students, grow, and build their resume before they go into the city planning world.

在學生踏入城市規劃界以前。他們有甚麼樣的資源可以支持學生成長、建立學生的經歷，

So, I'm really grateful for my,

所以我真的很感謝我的，

really two internships that I had during grad school.

在研究所時的兩個實習工作。

I don't think that I would have the job I have today without those experiences.

我覺得我沒有這些經歷的話，不會有今天的工作。

I had a couple of years after grad school where I was really searching for the right job.

從研究所畢業後我花了好幾年的時間尋找想做的工作。

I was offered a fellowship with NOAA in Washington, the state of Washington

我曾在華盛頓州的美國國家海洋暨大氣總署 (簡稱 NOAA) 獲得研究員的職位，

because it only paid 32,000 dollars a year and that was just too much for him

因為年薪只有 32,000 美元，對他來說

to consider leaving a job that he had that was well paying.

放棄現在薪資優渥的工作搬過去，有點損失太多。

So, I turned down that opportunity,

所以我拒絕了那個機會，

even though it would have been working on coastal resiliency issues and that was really hard.

雖然那是個致力於海岸回復力的議題的工作，這決定真的很艱難。

I am fortunate that the organization I worked with throughout grad school offered me a full time job.

我很幸運的是，在研究所時工作的組織給了我全職薪水。

So, the Institute for Environmental Negotiation offered me a job

所以環境協商研究所給我的工作是

managing a program for environmental leaders in the state of Virginia and it was a really great job.

在維吉尼亞州替環境領導者處理一份計畫案，那真的是很棒的工作。

It paid about 42,000 dollars a year.

年薪大約在 42,000 美元。

It was not, however, an urban planning job.

然而這並不是一份都市計畫的工作。

So, it was a lot of like logistics, and coordinating, and

這份工作比較多運籌、協調、

organizing, and finding speakers, et cetera.

組織跟尋找發言人之類的。

I do think that was actually really valuable in the end

我最後認為這份工作經驗其實很珍貴，

because as part of my work as a city planner I, you know,

因為我作為城市規劃師，有部分的工作

need to do a little bit of meeting logistics,

就必須做一些會議運籌、

workshop preparation, and those kinds of skills that I learned in the year and a half after grad school,

準備工作坊，還有那類我在研究所畢業一年半裡學到的技能，

ended up being really valuable.

最後變得非常有價值。

But I saw the job I have today on actually, an online job search platform,

但我過去在線上求職平台上看我現在的工作職位，

I was typing city planner, city planning technician, resiliency planner,

我曾輸入過城市規劃師、城市規劃技師、回復力規劃師、

flooding planner, like all these different terms and

洪患規劃師，類似這樣不同的字眼，

I saw the posting for, it was actually for

我看上面的貼文，上面其實徵的是

a flood resilience city planning technician at the New York City department of City Planning

一名洪患回復力城市規劃技師，工作單位是紐約市城市規劃部門，

and I saw that and it sounded perfect.

我看到了，那聽起來很棒。

I was asked to be interviewed for the job, however,

那時我被要求面試，

I was in Virginia and the job is in New York and

然而，我當時在維吉尼亞州，那份工作在紐約，

city governments typically don't fly people out for interviews.

市政府通常不會支付旅費讓人飛來面試。

I don't actually know of any, there might be some, though.

雖然有可能會有，但我沒聽過。

They didn't offer to fly me out and I wasn't feeling in a financial position to fly myself up here.

他們不會負擔我的旅費，而我當時手頭有點緊，沒辦法飛到這裡。

So, I actually interviewed over the phone.

所以我是透過電話面試的。

I interviewed once, the first time it went really well,

我面試過一次，第一次很順利。

they then called my references and

然後他們打電話給我的推薦人，

my boss said really glowing things about me,

我的老闆說了一些我的亮眼表現，

which was really great and then,

這真的很棒，然後，

I sensed that maybe they were picking between a couple of candidates

我覺得可能他們要從好幾個候選人中挑選，

because they called for a second interview

因為他們又舉行第二次面試，

which I now know is unusual they typically only have one, one hour, interview session.

我現在才知道那是不尋常的，他們通常只會有一次，一個小時的面試。

I did a follow up, half hour, forty-five minute phone interview

我繼續參與下一個面試，大概半小時或 45 分鐘的電話面試，

and the following week I was told I didn't get the job.

然後下一週我就被通知我沒錄取。

That was really devastating

那真的讓我非常難過，

because I thought, this is my perfect job,

因為我覺得對我來說這是最棒的工作，

if I can't get my perfect job, what am I?

如果我不能得到我最理想的工作，我又算什麼？

You know, what am I doing?

你懂嗎，我還要做什麼？

A couple a days after they told me that I didn't have

在他們通知我沒錄取後幾天，

the job they called to actually offer me the job.

他們又告訴我要給我這份工作。

That was a little strange,

那有點詭異，

but it turned out that their other,

但結果就是他們的人選，

the other person that they had chosen for the position fell through,

那個職位所選定的人選失約了，

that person already lived in New York City, and so,

那個人本來就住在紐約市，因此，

I think it was easier for them to offer that person the job

我認為他們錄取那個人的可能性比較高，

because that person could start right away,

因為他可以馬上到職，

they had met that person face to face, and there was,

他們也已經面對面談過，然後，

they were just more comfortable.

他們會覺得更自在。

I think it's really unfortunate that, it came down to, it almost came down to me

我真的覺得運氣不好，我幾乎就要失去這個機會，

not being able to be there in person for the reason that I didn't get the job.

因為我沒辦法親自到場這個理由而沒有獲得這份工作。

Governments and non profits typically don't have the budget to fly people out for an interview

政府跟非營利組織通常不會有差旅預算讓人飛來面試，

so if you're really interested in a job,

所以如果你真的對某個工作很感興趣，

if you think this might be your perfect job,

如果你覺得這是你夢寐以求的工作，

which I'm not sure that there is such a thing,

我是不確定是不是真的有這樣的工作，

but if it's the job that excites you,

但如果有份工作讓你很激動，

and that you think you might really enjoy,

而且你覺得你可能會很享受這份工作，

if I had to do it over again and

如果我不得不再做一次，

if I did this in the future,

如果我在未來要這麼做，

I would fly myself out for an interview.

我會為了面試飛過去。

When employers are hiring City Planners,

當僱主要僱用城市規劃師時，

of course they're looking, usually for

當然他們尋找的人選，

a masters degree in city planning.

通常是城市規劃碩士學歷的規劃師。

The other skill sets that they're looking for are generally a familiarity with ArcGIS

另外他們尋找的人選要具備的技能通常要熟悉 ArcGIS，

which is a computer software to map data.

那是一套彙整地圖資料的電腦軟體。

City planners also need to be able to understand those maps,

城市規劃師也必須要能了解那些地圖，

to understand the spacial display of information, you know,

了解地圖展示出來的特殊資訊，

how different information is distributed across neighborhoods and what that means,

有多少不同資訊分布在鄰里之中，那些又是甚麼意思。

what the disparity or change of information means across neighborhoods.

資訊的差異或變化在鄰里中有甚麼意思。

So, that's actually something that almost all City Planners know how to utilize

所以，那可說是所有城市規劃師都要懂得如何使用的東西，

is this ArcGIS platform or another mapping computer platform.

就是這套 ArcGIS 平台，或是其他地圖繪製電腦平台。

Typically, as a City Planner, when you're starting out you are trying to find your niche in the world of City Planning.

通常，作為一名城市規劃師，當你踏入這行，你會開始找尋自己在城市規劃界中的定位。

You're trying to find out really what interests you and what you're good at.

你要試著找出真正讓你感興趣的領域，還有你擅長的領域。

Maybe you're interested in environmental planning,

或許你對環境規畫有興趣，

but are you more interested in the project management side

但你是對計劃案管理面比較有興趣，

or the community outreach side, or the analysis side,

還是社區拓展面，或是分析面，

that's something I think you learn in your first job.

我想那些是你在第一份工作會了解到的。

Over time, you might be promoted to different positions

隨著時間過去，你可能會晉升到不同職位，

depending on what your skills set is.

這要根據你所具備的技能有哪些。

There's very obvious ways to be promoted in government from City Planner I, to City Planner II, to City Planner III, and so forth,

在政府機關裡有很明確的升遷方式，從一級城市規劃師、二級城市規劃師，到三級、四級城市規劃師，

but if you want to move beyond government,

但如果你不想只是當政府機關的公務員，

you might work for a private company.

你可能是在私人企業工作。

You would make more money most likely,

你更可能賺更多錢，

your title could be any variety of things.

你就可能有各式各樣的職稱。

Project Manager, Project Director, Assistant Vice President,

計畫案經理、計畫案主任、協理、

all these different titles that, you basically,

所有各式各樣的職稱，基本上，

they're not always clear what the promotional titles are for City Planner.

城市規劃師的升遷職稱總是模糊不清。

So, you kind of have to discern by reading the job description, by talking to people,

所以你必須要看過工作敘述、跟人們聊過，才能分辨工作內容，

whether or not it's a good fit for you.

知道那份工作是否適合你。

I think most City Planners do end up working for the government

我想多數城市規劃師最終會在公部門工作，

and staying working for the government.

也就這樣一直下去。

That's something that really draws City Planners is

真正吸引城市規劃者的是

the prospect of serving their communities.

為他們的社區服務的願景。

However, there are better salary prospects

然而，還是有可能獲得比較好的薪資待遇，

if you looked toward city planner jobs in the private world,

如果你在私人企業尋找城市規劃師的工作，

and that might be working for,

可能的工作內容是，

like, an international building or development firm that works on large scale planning projects.

像是服務領域是大型規劃案的國際建築或是開發公司。

They might work on large scale city plans

他們可能會標下數個大型城市計畫案，

to support a city that doesn't quite have its own urban planning staff to complete a project.

好協助某些沒有自己的都市計畫工作人員的城市來完成計畫案。

They might do environmental analysis

他們可能會做環境分析，

that the city doesn't have the technical staff for.

有些城市沒有這樣的技術人員。

So, a lot of times, private firms are, end up actually supporting the city,

所以，大部分的私人企業最終其實也是在支持這個城市，

or they're supporting a developer in their work.

或是他們是用自己的工作來支持開發者。

And, the salary prospects at a private firm are much more lucrative.

然後，私人企業的薪資待遇是比公部門多蠻多的。

They work, probably, longer hours than I do at the city government,

他們的工時可能會比我在公部門還長，

but eventually at a private firm you might make 125,000 or 150,000 dollars a year.

但最後你在私人企業可能會領到 125,000 或 150,000 的年薪。

Especially as you get more senior in the role.

特別是你越來越資深的話。

In my ideal world, I would continue working on climate change planning issues in perpetuity.

在我的理想中，我會一直致力於氣候變遷的規劃問題。

There aren't always job opportunities available to support that work.

並不總是有氣候變遷相關議題的工作機會。

So, I'm not sure what the future prospects are for someone working specifically as a resiliency planner.

所以，我不確定對於環境規劃，特別是回復力規劃師的未來面向為何。

I think I can carry my skills set to any number of other jobs that I would also really enjoy

我想我具備的技能也能帶到其他我同樣會非常享受的工作中，

as long as I'm interfacing with the public in my work

只要我能在工作中與公眾互動。

I think I'll be really happy.

我想我就會非常開心。