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  • What's up, guys?

  • Jacey sent here.

  • And welcome back to my home office, where I'm creating videos once again because we're practicing social distancing as best as possible and staying the F home as long as we possibly can.

  • So, yeah, once we do return to the studio, we'll do everything we can to be responsible.

  • But it's not too hard to keep distance from Phil.

  • Or should I say, for him to keep distance for me because I fart a lot and no one likes to be near me when I'm like that anyway, So it won't be hard anyway, moving on a long time ago by a long time ago, I mean last year, which is, Ah, Eternity and YouTube time I built Nebula.

  • I told you guys, I would kind of talk to you about that building, Why?

  • I went some of the directions that I did and what the performance is like.

  • And I never followed up on that because truth be told, after it was done, I started getting really into small form factor stuff.

  • Cue the Star Wars build that I did, and I started losing interest in these giant £100 plus computers, but I'm kind of glad I stuck around it.

  • So let's talk about some of the things that this computer that I like, some of the things that I don't like and maybe some things for you guys to think about when you're doing your builds when you see something as pretty as this, but that has a massive amount of diminishing returns and a lot of wasted money when it comes to practicality.

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  • So Nebula was designed to be a Skunk Works replacement.

  • I had Skunk works for a long time, and that was my gunmetal sm eight case, the case lab's case that had several revisions in it.

  • It was the first system I had done rigid tubing in and it sort of evolved over time.

  • It started with an what x No.

  • Z 97 was the first build a head in.

  • There was a Devil's Canyon 47 90 k Uh, And then from there I went to x 99 then x 2 99 And it had three way us alive for the longest time when it still actually worked.

  • And that was only practical because of the fact that for a while there I was using three screens and you could actually have three monitors plugged into three different deep use At the time, it took a lot of the load off of it.

  • There are different ways to do envy surround, but this isn't about that.

  • But over time, I basically was like, Well, the idea behind Skunk Works was it was the centerpiece of the channel.

  • And considering I had that PC for well, considerations and such for about five years, actually little bit over five years, I think it got to the point to where I got tired of looking at the same tower over and over and over again.

  • And don't get me wrong.

  • I love Case Lab's.

  • I know f in chat for case labs.

  • But, um, although they may be the most functional cases in terms of size and modularity and all that, they're not the prettiest things to look at.

  • They're just big rectangles made out of, um, CNC machine pieces of sheet metal and their aluminum, and they're bent on press breaks, and they had very industrial looks to them.

  • But that wasn't gonna fly in this space.

  • And one of the things I always said I was gonna do was when I redid my office space.

  • I wanted centerpieces, and it was supposed to be a fut the b f d d monitor.

  • Were you talked about that and why I changed my decision on that and a new tower for the centerpiece, and that's where Nebula comes in.

  • But one of the things that happens is because I'm mostly a one man operation and what I mean by that, and that's and that's not taking anything away from Phil.

  • He does all the editing.

  • He does all a lot of the B roll.

  • I still shoot a lot of the B roll.

  • I do all of the planning.

  • I do all of the building.

  • I do all of the content creation in terms of the ideas, um, multiple projects going at the same time.

  • I've got obligations with vendors and stuff to do you ads and projects for them and stuff.

  • So my stuff tends to always take a long time if you guys haven't noticed.

  • I mean, everyone loves to give me a hard time about how long the celebrity builds have taken, but whatever it is what it is, So as you probably know, if you're a professional that does anything, if you do automotive work or whatever, your projects usually take a back seat to everyone else's.

  • So it's one of those things where once nebula was done, I was already kind of over it.

  • But then, once I started building the office, I got to the point where I'm like, Okay, this build looks phenomenal.

  • It's brushed aluminum, it's polished.

  • Champion edges the glass everywhere, and I knew that this bill had to be something different, and for me, it was the first time.

  • Using all metal tubing, I got Alfa cool tubing that was 13 millimeter outer diameter.

  • It was already came in different links.

  • I had pre bent nineties already.

  • That way I could use fittings where I didn't have nineties, and then I didn't worry about trying to bend it.

  • In fact, once it was already nickel plated, you can't bend it if you bend it again, you're just gonna crack all the nickel plating.

  • It's not flexible.

  • So I did the best I could with, um, a TV just turned off.

  • Yeah, in terms of lighting in here, guys, bear with me.

  • I have literally no lights in this room.

  • So what that means is you're seeing me lit entirely by the ambient lighting.

  • And it is raining really bad today, which means no sunlight.

  • I think it's okay.

  • Reason the A seven s, which is great in low light.

  • Anyway, moving on Working with the metal tubes was probably the second most annoying way of building a water cooled PC that I've personally done.

  • And first place being on Lee glass glass tubing is when you don't have all the proper tools to cut glass and re strengthen it and such, unfortunately, haven't had any tubes break on me so far.

  • But if the bills that have done with glass those are the most pain in the ass, but metal is definitely a close second place.

  • And although it's easier to cut metal tubes with them being already plated like they are, they're nickel plated brass tubes, which make someone very, very heavy.

  • So trying to avoid sag and such when it comes to the different bends you could see from the G pews, I've got 90 degree fittings out.

  • Many agree up in the 90 degree back into the back firewall area.

  • We'll call the mother portrayed the firewall.

  • I'm very automotive around here.

  • The amount of weight that there is alone with just the fittings and a normal build, adding the weight of brass tubing made it that much more of a kind of a pain in the butt to try and keep things from sagging and keep everything aligned the way it's supposed to be.

  • The other thing being dimensions.

  • So one of the things I did with this build is I used plastic tubing, or PG, and I mocked up all the links that I needed.

  • I bent the nineties to match the radius of the metal tubing, and I did the full loop in plastic.

  • I then took those plastic pieces and use them as a template for cutting the metal pieces.

  • But one of the things that happens is even though you mark it as best you can.

  • One millimeter difference in length at the short end is a lot on the far end.

  • So it's kind of like that old adage of no, yeah, you know, you only might be off by 1/2 a degree on the compass, but in 1000 miles, how far away is that?

  • 1000 degrees over.

  • Over distance, Right, So this isn't 1000 miles or or 1000?

  • Whatever, I think I said, 1000 agrees.

  • You know what I mean?

  • So the same thing can happen with this.

  • So if you have everything lining up perfectly with plastic and let's say you've got tubes that air varying by a millimeter or two per tube, nothing lines up again perfectly.

  • So trimming a very, very short amount of tubing without having a miter saw with a metal blade or one that's small enough to be able to just trim the very edge off of a tube.

  • You can't do that with a pipe cutter like I was using, which is the clamp on type.

  • They turn around and it cuts the pipe.

  • I feel like it would've been a lot easier even having a cheap little salt like Paul was using for his Petey G cutting with a proper metal cutting blade on there.

  • Because even trying to use a Dremel, it's impossible to get it straight.

  • It's always gonna get an angle or something crazy like that, and not to mention the amount of Blade you would go through would make it just completely, uh, impractical when it comes to the amount of work it's gonna take.

  • So my suggestion to those that are interesting doing metal tubing would be have some sort of a saw, a proper cutting sol for small diameter tubing to be able to make short trims.

  • And then you have.

  • That's the other thing, too, is after you cut the metal.

  • It's very sharp.

  • It's gonna have birds.

  • It's no matter what, it's not gonna be perfect.

  • Perfect.

  • So even if you take a file on you filed the edges like you normally do with an exhaust system, they just kind of rotated on the edge of the on the side of the blade gates moved up now.

  • Good enough.

  • Go welded.

  • You can't do that with this tubing.

  • This tubing is very, very sharp once, even if you start to file it.

  • So you've got to do like I was doing the straight pieces, chuck it up in a drill, sort of spin it, hold a file against it and make it more rounded.

  • Because inside the fittings, especially the optical fittings that we were using that was designed specifically specifically to clamp onto soft We'll smooth metal tubing like the nickel plated brass tube, um, has o rings inside of it.

  • And so you're gonna easily slice the o rings, you slice the o rings, you slice the seal and although there are multiple rings in there, so cutting one would necessarily make it leak.

  • It's not doing yourself any favors by having sliced rings.

  • And I don't think with a system that you're gonna spend the kind of money on for metal tubing, But that's the sort of thing that you're willing to take a risk with.

  • The other thing that I really started second guessing myself with Nebula was s Ally we know s ally is pretty much dead in gaming.

  • When Tom A.

  • Peterson left in video with it sort of went the vision for s ally.

  • That was his.

  • That was his thing.

  • He loved s ally.

  • He wanted to keep it alive.

  • He really wanted to promote it.

  • And after Pascal, it was obvious.

  • Well, what the Pascal launched that things were changing because they didn't even want to talk about more than two graphics cards in s ally and then having three and four, although doable with the 10 a t.

  • T.

  • I was one of those things, like in the beginning.

  • Remember, they were gonna have to give you, like, a special code to unlock it on your system.

  • And it was just a complete hassle and trying to figure out what was happening with that fast forward to 28 e t.

  • I.

  • You can't even go past two way if you wanted.

  • And then two way is pretty much useless in anything other than benchmarking and or rendering pc slash streaming peces.

  • So one of the reasons why I ended up sticking with nebula is I've got 2 28 e t i m e j for the wind.

  • Three graphics cards in their their custom PC bees.

  • They're gigantic.

  • They're designed for over clocking, although I'm not over clocking them that far right now and we'll talk about why in a second, um, these are the cards we use when we started kind of ramping up our competition against Steve with the over clocking beef battles.

  • And these have the secret sauce bios on them, which allowed me to go 200% power drop in this conflict.

  • That would never happen because of the fact that the amount of heat that those cards can generate and just using standard water cooling with ambient air is not gonna work.

  • In fact, those cards on Lee saw chilled water with ice, which kept them down to around 2020 to see under load, which in their current config, they they stay closer to 50 to 55 under load, which is funny because the air cooler with the fans set to 100% can get nearly as cold.

  • So that's kind of brings me on to the next thing with Nebula.

  • That kind of irritated me was the cooling of it.

  • Now, although I do have 23 420 millimeter radiators up top that are 45 millimeters thick.

  • They It's less radiator than I wanted for this system.

  • I would have loved to have had 2 420 radiators just for the graphics cards.

  • Now, in terms of the CPU, I'm running a 99 80 XY.

  • And if you remember, when I had this dilemma, whether I wanted to use the 99 80 or the new 10 98 e x e, I was tor kn because the 99 80 is the CPU that we held the record with until the 31 75 x came out.

  • And so this this CPU had nostalgia.

  • But one of the things that I significantly underestimated was the amount of cooling it's truly gonna need.

  • In fact, that should also have its very own 420 or 480 millimeter radiator.

  • That CPU, in my experience with it, was on Lee used under dry ice and liquid nitrogen.

  • I never ran it with a basic water cooler.

  • Even one that wasn't ah one that was this water chilled with ice, just using regular water with it.

  • This sucker get hot Now I had to spend a lot of time tuning the voltage on this because pushing the over clock like it is right now, only 4.6 gigahertz.

  • Remember, I ran it at 5.1 gigahertz, I believe on, uh, no, no, we got almost six gigahertz head of this guy.

  • I remember this now.

  • We got, like, 5.85 point nine gigahertz out of it on dry ice and liquid nitrogen.

  • I'm running it at 4.64 point seven on water and dealing with massive, massive heat.

  • As you might expect, it's an 18 core processor, so it has a lot of focused heat in there.

  • So when it comes to just normal water cooling, the best cooling you could possibly hope for is ambience.

  • And without it being chilled, it means that it's never going to get to ambient with the amount of radiators that I have in there.

  • So on 18 core 99 80 XY and 2 28 e.

  • T.

  • I.

  • For the win, three graphics cards from PGA with special bios that I procured on there making a lot of heat is asking an awful lot of 2 420 millimeter radiators now the next thing, too, is like I talked about the heat with the 1980 XY.

  • I had to do a massive amount of voltage tuning on there to get it so that one out would run center bench are 20.

  • It would not immediately go toe 110 c, which is where it was going.

  • And now remember, this is a lapped CPU with water that would instantaneously goto 110 C with a BX instruction offset turned to zero so would stay at its full turbo clocks.

  • Funny enough, though, it didn't Brodell, which is should have done at 105 And I made sure all the settings on my rampage extreme Um, I came here.

  • Which one?

  • This is.

  • It's above the rampage extreme.

  • It's the next one.

  • I forget what it's called anyway.

  • I digress.

  • I made sure that the feature of automatically thermal limit is on, and it was and it went toe one tea and 1 10 and didn't throttle.

  • So I was starting to get a little concerned that something was wrong with my mount.

  • No, it was just pumping 1.4 volts to 18 cores, which then maybe go.

  • Was this a mistake?

  • So when I built the Star Wars system for dream Hack, uh, we upgraded that.

  • Remember?

  • It's got a 99 100 k in there.

  • It's gotta tighten our t X.

  • It's got a single fan with two very small aereo's for each part.

  • It never got over 50 c on the GPU.

  • The CPU never got anywhere above over 80.

  • See, I live streamed all weekend long, playing on the system that I was live streaming from using the end beckon coder the invidious encoder on the Titan while gaming at 14 40 p while live streaming and never saw any leg.

  • I never saw any sort of dropped frames, and you would have never known that you were live streaming on the same machine that you were playing on back in the day.

  • Just a few years back.

  • If you hit, go live on a machine and then start playing games, you would notice him stutter.

  • You would definitely notice a reduced reduction and frames per second because of the c p u N g p overhead for life streaming, and it was not a great thing, which is why streaming PCs became a thing.

  • So after dream Hack I went.

  • Was this Was this a bad idea?

  • Was this stupid?

  • Is nebula stupid?

  • Yes, she is.

  • There's no need for a system like that.

  • There's so much impracticality in that system I could have and I even considered and Phil will attest to this.

  • I had a hard time trying to decide whether or not to just bring this Star Wars system over here, disassemble nebula, put those parts back in inventory and build something else out of it.

  • But then I thought, That's not the J Away.

  • We need to go big and oversized like me and just have a system that makes a statement, which is what it is.

  • So fortunately, after doing a lot of the voltage tuning and bringing the voltage down because the auto voltage was putting way more voltage in, it needed to run at the speeds that I was running it at.

  • Got the temperature is very stable, understand a bench.

  • Now it hits about 88 c, and if you guys only about a B X offsets or instructions, that's a very intensive load under very short amount of time, UM it now sits about 88.

  • See, when I'm gaming, it sits in the forties or fifties.

  • My graphics cards will get to about 55 C when I run an SL I benchmark like heaven or three D mark or something like that.

  • When I'm gaming, only one card does anything, and it doesn't have a hard time pushing this.

  • 38 60 by 1600 monitor was 38 43.

  • It's Bill Qhd, right?

  • The W qhd panel.

  • It has no problem with pushing that panel with a single card.

  • The second card pretty much only handles rendering and live streaming and such.

  • And I'm glad I stuck with it because I think most would agree in this set up.

  • It certainly fits the build for what I wanted, so I just kind of want to give you guys a little bit of an update.

  • And, um, is this the whole Jay's running out of content ideas?

  • Yeah, a little bit.

  • I don't have a whole lot here to make videos about, and I'm trying to avoid going outside and going to the other studio grabbing things.

  • Would you have to review is coming up this month.

  • So you're going to see some stuff and then also to, um, Like I said, we are going to return back to the studio because of some of those launches and things that we have to handle.

  • But we'll do the best we can to stay responsible.

  • So, guys, what are you doing during this downtime during all of this quarantine and chill.

  • What is your favorite way to pass the time, and please keep it clean.

  • I know there's some ways that you guys could probably pass the time that involves lotion and chafing, and I don't want to hear about that.

  • So keep that one to yourself.

  • Anyway.

  • Guys, thanks for watching this one to kind of give you an update on how this system has been.

  • Many of you asked if Nebula was living up to my expectations and, yes, after a lot of tuning.

  • And this is not a system that I think would have been very newbie friendly.

  • If you built this for the first time and you do your first benchmark, you're like, Oh, my God.

  • What the hell?

  • This thing is overheating.

  • You probably would have known where to start and even frustrated me as a power user and someone that's built hundreds of systems and has dealt with a lot of problems in the past.

  • This one was just frustrating in the sense of the amount of micro tuning that it needed.

  • So if you guys want to know more about what I did to reduce the temperatures without reducing the performance that I suggest you sound off in the comments below and let me know and I'll make that video.

  • Maybe guys say for watching hope you're staying safe, Hope you guys are feeling well and as always, I will see you in the next.

What's up, guys?

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星雲是否值得所有的努力?也許不值得 (Was Nebula worth all the effort? Maybe not)

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    林宜悉 發佈於 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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