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  • - Khan Academy, welcome to The Daily Homeroom livestream,

  • for those of y'all that this is your first time.

  • This is, really just a way for us to stay connected

  • during school closures.

  • Obviously, Khan Academy we have many resources

  • for students, teachers and parents to be able to work

  • whether the school is in session physically,

  • or, whether it's happening at home,

  • as I think most of y'all are now having to cope with.

  • And we realize, above and beyond those resources,

  • in math and English and language arts, and science

  • and humanities that go from pre-K through college,

  • that we need to provide more support.

  • It's our duty as a not for profit with a mission

  • to provide a free world class education for anyone,

  • anywhere to step up right now in this time of crisis.

  • And so that's why we're doing teacher webinars,

  • parent webinars, this daily homeroom live stream

  • for everyone as well as, things like, the daily schedules

  • that many of y'all are now leveraging.

  • To think about how to structure your days,

  • for students of different age groups.

  • I will remind everyone as I always do,

  • that we are a not for profit organization.

  • And, we are supportive, the only reason we can exist

  • is because of philanthropic donations

  • from folks like yourself.

  • And even before this crisis, we were operating at a deficit

  • and now during this crisis, our server traffic

  • is up two and a half, approaching three times

  • our registrations from students and parents,

  • are actually students and teachers are six fold,

  • parent registrations are 20 fold.

  • So if you're in a position to do so,

  • please think about donating to Khan Academy.

  • I do wanna give a special shout out to several corporations

  • who stepped up in record time when they realized

  • that we needed help and not just generally,

  • but especially in this COVID response period.

  • Bank of America stepped up in that first weekend,

  • followed by AT&T, Google.org and now Novartis,

  • this has been incredible help.

  • Any of you who are corporate leaders

  • or work for corporations, we need more help.

  • So I would love to add logos to this.

  • And for all of you individuals out there,

  • we still are running at a significant deficit.

  • So every donation matters, whether it's as small

  • as the $3 donation, $5, $10.

  • We know that that is hard earned money

  • and, we really appreciate it, but we really do need it,

  • if we wanna support kids around the world,

  • and parents and teachers.

  • So today we have a fairly exciting live stream.

  • We have a clinical psychologist, David Anderson.

  • I encourage everyone, I say this every time

  • to start putting questions on Facebook and YouTube

  • that you might have for either our guest, Dave

  • or myself about anything,

  • but we're gonna talk about something

  • that is very front of mind for a lot of folks right now.

  • We are all socially distanced.

  • Many of us have kids at home,

  • kids are trying to stay learning,

  • but there's many other things that are going on

  • in all of our minds.

  • Anxiety is up, stress is up for everyone.

  • And I'm hoping Dave can help us navigate.

  • And I'm speaking not just as a representative

  • of the Khan Academy community.

  • I'm also speaking as a parent who has seen some of,

  • some of our, some of the difficulties

  • of what we're going through.

  • So thanks for joining us, Dave.

  • And you know, maybe the first question

  • is any general advice you have for parents

  • and students who are just trying

  • to cope with everything going on right now.

  • - Right, well, look, thanks for having me.

  • It's wonderful to be able to be here

  • and to have a forum to kind of talk

  • about some of these things.

  • You know, we have a practice on both coasts,

  • about 60 clinicians in Child Mind Institute,

  • and we're hearing a lot from parents and students.

  • I would say that, you know, the first things

  • that are the top of mind,

  • especially for parents are to manage expectations.

  • I mean, the biggest thing is that none of us

  • have encountered challenges like this before.

  • And I count myself within that with two children.

  • You know, and something we're trying to manage

  • the work lives that we were, attempted managed

  • before this crisis hit with childcare

  • and without many of the major supports that we have,

  • you know, a time of online schooling is tough.

  • It's gonna be tough for anybody.

  • So, some of the first things we talked

  • to parents about are taking it to do lists

  • and that kind of level of perfectionism

  • they would normally expect of themselves.

  • And really trying to edit those things down

  • as much as possible to ensure

  • that there's something manageable each day.

  • And you have a moment to kind of mindfully pause

  • and perhaps enjoy some of the silver linings

  • of this in terms of time spent with family

  • and an opportunity to connect a little bit more.

  • - And what should we keep a lookout on,

  • for our children or even for ourselves?

  • I know you focus on children especially,

  • but as a just a clinical psychologist generally,

  • you know, I think sometimes you can,

  • things can happen in bits and pieces

  • and you know, you've gone too far before and it's too late.

  • And, what should we look out for,

  • signs of difficulty in our kids or even ourselves.

  • - I mean the reality to your point,

  • is we always say this thing that child therapy

  • is so much about it being mediated by the parents,

  • and parents aren't necessarily

  • the cause of the child's particular difficulties,

  • but they're often the solution.

  • So we spent, probably about a half the time

  • spending talking to parents even when the child

  • might be the particular focus of our intervention

  • and you know, in terms of how parents can support kids

  • at the moment and what we can,

  • we can help them to think about,

  • especially with online schooling,

  • cause I'll go back to one of your earlier questions.

  • It's that, you know, we're, everybody's adapting

  • this kind of new normal like, schools are trying

  • to outline assignments in certain ways

  • and make it so that, it's manageable for the kids

  • and they may not necessarily be getting data in real time

  • from parents related to what the kids can handle

  • and what kind of scaffolding they need.

  • I think the kids we're especially concerned

  • about at the moment, for our clinical population

  • are those with mental health and learning disorders

  • that normally are supported in allowing them access

  • to a school curriculum in school,

  • but which, you know, we may see

  • a lack of those kinds of support services

  • or where parents are being asked to be therapists,

  • speech language pathologist and teacher all in one.

  • And that's something that's exceedingly

  • difficult for everybody right now.

  • - And how are you all supporting those parents

  • or supporting those students?

  • - Yeah, a lot of it is, retooling our clinical services

  • to be digital at this time.

  • So in many ways we're starting from a kind of population

  • focused prevention level, in that Child Mind Institute

  • now has two Facebook lives per day.

  • I did a section on the website, which you can see here

  • on Coronavirus support and resources

  • just for supporting families and includes

  • links to our daily tips and Facebook lives.

  • A link to phone consultations that we can provide right now

  • for families that are having difficulty.

  • And then also articles that are really focused

  • on coping with Coronavirus crisis.

  • We've tried to make those articles targeted to age groups,

  • to parents stress management, incorporation of mindfulness,

  • and then specific diagnostic clusters

  • where parents may be experiencing

  • a certain kind of unique difficulties,

  • say for kids on the autism spectrum

  • or kids who might have difficulty with behavior.

  • So I thank you for scrolling through that section

  • of our website right there.

  • You can also, I'll be doing these Facebook lives

  • twice next week, so if folks have questions

  • that go unanswered between you and me, Sal,

  • they can catch me again a little bit later.

  • - No, this is super useful.

  • And then we're getting a lot of interesting questions

  • here for you Dave.

  • This first one is from YouTube.

  • Molly Franklin asks, as an extrovert,

  • how can I keep from losing my mind during quarantine?

  • Exclamation mark.

  • - That's a really good question.

  • I mean, you know, I think that in many ways

  • we've seen an explosion of these kinds of self categorizing

  • terms on Twitter and on the internet right now,

  • where folks realize like in terms of the definition

  • of extrovert, we see it operationalized right now

  • and on the internet as somebody who really gets their energy

  • and really feels like their mood gets a boost

  • in any given day, from the contact, the close contact

  • in person that they have with other people,

  • that's where they get their energy.

  • And so look, what we try to do at first

  • is help extroverts to, cope in a sort of accepting way,

  • in that, we know that it's not gonna be the best

  • in terms of how to support their mental health right now.

  • We know that a lot of the ways

  • that they would normally draw energy

  • or get a mood boost are not available to them.

  • So it's about thinking as creatively as possible.

  • We try to assess with people,

  • what the level of relationship is with anybody

  • they might currently be socially distancing with,

  • how they can make the most

  • of those safe in-person connections.

  • And then similarly how they can connect with others

  • to just do daily activities kind of together,

  • in the sense that can you watch a TV show together?

  • Are there online games you can connect with

  • and play with other people?

  • And I'll give one last, quite creative suggestion

  • I've seen from some of the teenagers I treat,

  • which is social distancing walks,

  • in a sense that they'll meet up across a block

  • from each other, never be on the same side of the street,

  • but at least feel like they're walking together

  • and can look at each other, you know, in person.

  • - That's fascinating cause I think the rational part

  • of our brain says, why does it matter

  • if we're watching that, you know

  • that Netflix show at the same time.

  • But to your point there is something

  • deep inside of us that says,

  • Oh, other people are experiencing it at the same time.

  • - And that's the thing, I'm deep into cheer right now.

  • Next up is Tiger King.

  • But I think for all of us, it's that,

  • you know, if we don't have a partner

  • or another family member to watch with,

  • it becomes a question of can we watch with a friend

  • or, you know, do this over some sort of online forum

  • where somebody is on FaceTime at the same time

  • as we're watching on television

  • and we're watching in real time together.

  • It at least gives some sense of shared experience,

  • particularly for extroverts really feed off that.

  • We even see people - And that's some of the logic

  • - Cook the same food together.

  • Sorry, yeah.

  • - Oh, that's cool.

  • Cook the same food and then share a meal

  • that's a neat idea.

  • - Exactly, and you get to compare, you know,

  • who did it best and you know,

  • kind of tinker with each other's recipes.

  • There's a lot that can happen with that,

  • especially if your friend is a better chef than you are.

  • - (laughs) Yeah.

  • Although, you could pretend that your own dish

  • was the more delicious, no one will ever know.

  • But, this is somewhat the logic you can always,

  • Obviously we could do video versions of this live stream.

  • And then it might even, you know,

  • we wouldn't have our little technical glitches

  • that sometimes we have with our, our broadband.

  • - Sorry (speaking off mic)

  • - No one should feel broadband guilt at this point.

  • (laughs)

  • But, this is the value, that we're all globally right now

  • having this shared experience.

  • And we're getting a ton of more questions from Facebook.

  • Taylor Cobian asks, how do you cope with school work load

  • without getting distracted?

  • Personally, as a high school student,

  • I'm struggling with staying focused

  • since I have ADHD, advice.

  • - So my first job at the Child Mind Institute

  • was running our clinical center for kids with ADHD

  • and behavioral issues.

  • So this is, this is right in my clinical wheelhouse.

  • So thank you for the softball.

  • I mean, look, with a lot of the patients

  • that we're working with with ADHD right now,

  • you know, we know certain things,

  • we know that if they get sleep, focus can be better.

  • If they take medicine,

  • it's important to think about the timing

  • and when they're gonna get the most benefit from that.

  • And then beyond that,

  • it's important to think about organizational skills

  • and the structuring of the day.

  • So with a lot of my patients right now,

  • we'll think about, especially with adolescents,

  • even though they may be waking up slightly earlier

  • than they were say, during the school day,

  • we're structuring their workspace,

  • to make sure it's as free of distractions as we can.

  • Maybe putting any distracting devices

  • where friends might be trying to contact us

  • outside the door or elsewhere in the house.

  • We're trying to get good work blocks in the day.

  • So trying to make sure we've got at least one work block

  • before lunch and perhaps starting

  • with some of the more ambitious tasks,

  • that we know will have less energy to really tackle

  • or focus, to really tackle later in the day.

  • Structuring good meals and breaks

  • and really trying to not save a lot of the challenging work.

  • More like the easy stuff you can kind of knock off,

  • for the late nighttime either when medicine

  • or motivation has really worn off

  • and it's about kind of, you know,

  • managing yourself like that.

  • And then if you can't talk back to yourself

  • to combat procrastination effectively,

  • sometimes we've seen teens and college students,

  • really try to get accountability buddies,

  • who can kind of keep them on task and say,

  • all right, let me meet with you for five minutes

  • at the beginning of the day.

  • What's your list?

  • And then, you know, how can we make sure we check in,

  • in a non-judgmental way to keep you on track.

  • - That's super powerful.

  • A lot of what you described, once again,

  • the rational parts of our brains, like,

  • Oh, why should I have to text message a friend

  • when I've checked something off of my, off of my to do list?

  • Or why should I have to eat a, you know, watch a movie.

  • But there's, at the same time there's someone else.

  • But there's something very powerful about having

  • that community accountability to what you're doing.

  • And we've talked about it at previous live streams,

  • just, just getting started, having those early wins,

  • but do some of the high cognitive little things

  • early with breaks, that's super good advice.

  • - And it's really also, that friends can help us

  • be accountable in a more non-judgmental way.

  • Not to mention friends are often the ones

  • who are the most gentle with us

  • and helping us to be self-compassionate

  • and also to realize we deserve breaks.

  • Even if we weren't as efficient

  • in a given day as we expected we would be.

  • - You have better friends than I do.

  • Mine are quite, no, I'm kidding.

  • (laughter)

  • - You choose the accountability buddies carefully.

  • - Yes, you should see some of the texts accountability

  • that I have with my friends when we have one group,

  • where we text each other whenever we eat something

  • we should not and, they are not, they're quite harsh.

  • We are all harsh to each other.

  • - I've seen folks do things where their friend

  • will control a certain portion of their money

  • and it will be donated to a cause they don't support,

  • if they you know, don't accomplish their goals,

  • for to a cause they could do support.

  • If it does, you know you can set up lots of different,

  • you know, schemes for yourself with your friends.

  • - That's powerful.

  • So, this next question is from YouTube.

  • And actually this is something where we could

  • probably both take a stab at answering it.

  • YouTube, Asher Tosh Tuwary, says, hi Sal,

  • I wanna know how you people are coping with COVID-19.

  • I wanna know how y'all are keeping your offices running

  • and I'll take a stab at it.

  • And I'd love Dave, you know, you're also in an organization,

  • I'd love to think about how you personally are coping

  • and your organization, but, Asher Tosh,

  • you know, Khan Academy, it's, this is a tarred time

  • for everyone, obviously.

  • Some of the good things that Khan Academy had going forward

  • is we already had about 35% of our workforce,

  • was what we would say remote or distributed.

  • And so, we had a lot of the infrastructure in place

  • where we could do meetings over Google Hangouts or zoom.

  • We would use things like Google docs to be able

  • to collaborate and so, that aspect of it

  • has been relatively okay for Khan Academy,

  • although it's still been difficult.

  • I think the part that's been much harder

  • is now a lot of our team members are at home,

  • their children, many of them

  • have very young children are at home.

  • And you can imagine getting work done,

  • while you're also doing childcare,

  • especially if your children are very young.

  • It's very difficult.

  • And I know many of the parents and teachers

  • out there listening are coping with the same thing.

  • You know, I consider myself very fortunate.

  • We have you know, I have three young children,

  • my wife and my mother-in-law lives with us

  • and that helps us kind of, be able to tag team a little bit.

  • And especially, since the COVID crisis has been going on

  • and Khan Academy's load, and in fact my workload

  • has gotten even higher than it typically would have been.

  • Even pre-crisis.

  • You know, I really have to thank my wife

  • and my mother-in-law for stepping up,

  • and, and filling in the gap.

  • And, my wife is a physician, a rheumatologist.

  • So you can imagine, there's a lot of complexity

  • in her world as well.

  • So she's been kind of the hero of the household lately,

  • but it's tough on everyone.

  • And I think we all just have to, you know,

  • take one step at a time and to quote Frozen II,

  • do the next right thing.

  • Dave, I'd love to hear personally,

  • how, how are you coping and your family and your work?

  • - I just thought my son's favorite character is Elsa.

  • So if I can mix flexibility, gratitude and frozen references

  • into my speech here, you know, I think that,

  • that was pretty perfect.

  • Now, you know, I think that it at Child Mind,

  • you know, we have, 300 employees across a couple of coasts

  • and similar to you, there were aspects of our work,

  • that were, as a nonprofit that were already online

  • and, you know, fruitful for collaboration

  • even when we're working at distance.

  • I think others like clinical care, have both suffered

  • and then also been adapted in new and inventive ways

  • to serve our patients in the sense that we all knew

  • that the models of treatment that we use for children,

  • adolescents and families, are most tested in person,

  • but, in an environment like this,

  • in many ways, we've seen organizations like ourselves,

  • kind of figure out how we can become borderless,

  • in that we can serve with consultations or clinical care

  • and really creative ways using video camera coaching

  • with parents at home or all kinds of different formats

  • online just to get in touch with our patients

  • and to really make sure we can provide support

  • as best we can during this time.

  • Like you, I have a three year old and a seven month old

  • at home and the only way that I've been able to function

  • or keep work up is because of my wonderful wife

  • and in-laws who also live with us.

  • But even with that said, my son is used to

  • a bounded lifestyle, my son, my three-year-old

  • and where daddy goes to work each day in an office

  • and he goes to his pre-school.

  • And the fact that I'm working upstairs

  • has been a real adjustment period for him,

  • in the sense that he doesn't really understand

  • why he can't be involved in everything.

  • And so I've tried to work out a rhythm,

  • where I take a long lunch break

  • within each day outside in the yard.

  • We need, you know, have at least a meeting

  • with a team member of mine, not a patient

  • that he joins each day.

  • And then I just try to drop everything,

  • the second the workday is over,

  • and spend a good bit of time with him.

  • But I think everybody's trying to find

  • their balance that way.

  • - You know, whenever I start to feel sorry for ourselves

  • because of my youngest is five years old

  • and he's a little bit difficult sometimes,

  • I remind myself of those of you who have a three year old

  • or a seven month old at home.

  • So, my sympathies, that's hard.

  • - The funniest thing is that, you know,

  • in the midst of this, I think my wife and I,

  • had so many goals for, you know,

  • where we'd like him to be right now.

  • Like, you know, we've gotten through potty training

  • the last year, like he's sleeping in his own, big kid bed,

  • and, just in the last few nights, in the last week or so,

  • he's found it unable to sleep through the night

  • without one of us in his bed.

  • And we're just adapting to that.

  • Like, I think in the normal rhythm of life,

  • we'd say to ourselves,

  • no, we've got to set some boundaries here.

  • But the reality is our kids, we're trying to stay healthy.

  • We're trying to keep everybody safe and their mood up.

  • So, you know, what's a little bit of relaxing of boundaries

  • right now if it makes everybody feel safe and loved.

  • - Well, that's actually a good segue

  • to this next question that I have here.

  • And this is, you know, the screen time question

  • has always been a question,

  • but obviously a lot of us are relying on screen time,

  • both socially and academically and work-wise.

  • So from Facebook, Samson Senate Senateda or Sign Thado,

  • I thought it was a really assigned data trick,

  • tricking the metric username, I like that.

  • Well, Sam sign sign data, is it good for kids to go online

  • for three hours in the morning even with breaks?

  • Some kids complain of headaches and bleary eyes.

  • Yeah, I'd love your, you know,

  • there's the pre-COVID screen time debate

  • and now there's the current COVID screen time debate.

  • - I just did a webinar for parents on this last week,

  • where we talked about how pre-COVID,

  • the checklist was, you know,

  • in terms of stressing out over screen time balance,

  • we ask parents, let's check off

  • a number of developmental boxes.

  • And as long as you've got those things,

  • you may not have to worry about how much free time

  • your child is spending on screens.

  • As long as you're kind of monitoring content

  • and the interactions.

  • And we would check off, you know,

  • are they invested in school,

  • do they have extracurricular activities?

  • Do you have some family time,

  • you know, do they have face to face contact with friends

  • and are they getting enough sleep?

  • Those would be some of the things on the checklist.

  • The way it's switched for COVID

  • is around basic wellness practices

  • and then the fact that the balance has really shifted,

  • in that we're asking parents,

  • okay, is everybody in the house eating?

  • Do you know where your food is coming from?

  • Let's check like kind of hierarchy of needs type things.

  • You know, do you feel like everyone's getting enough sleep?

  • How can we help with that?

  • Are people getting exercise in some form?

  • Are you finding ways to give yourself breaks

  • above and beyond school or work responsibilities?

  • And you know, it's, it's this question

  • of once you've kind of checked off those boxes

  • of finding just ways to engage in basic routines

  • of wellness over the course of the day.

  • We're trying to get people to really think about relaxing,

  • that, you know, if you wanna focus on say an hour

  • or two a day to find screen free activities,

  • destruction for kids, congratulate yourself

  • and then you know, monitor the content

  • and monitor what they're watching of course.

  • But it's okay to relax the boundaries during this time

  • and we'll snap them back over the summer

  • when everybody can be maybe outside

  • and hopefully when we're through this to some degree.

  • - Right, it's an interesting struggle

  • cause we're always, you know, we always feel guilty

  • to some degree, I mean there's good screen time

  • and not so good screen time or neutral screen time,

  • but obviously we're all leaning on it more.

  • But it's your point, all of our own mental health,

  • we all need actually might, might need some screen time

  • to connect with folks, to learn.

  • But it also, if it, if it can help offload a parent

  • for even half an hour, an hour and give them a break,

  • if their stress level goes down, it helps the student.

  • - And this goes back, to the American Academy of Pediatrics

  • recommendations regarding screen time,

  • where, you know, they're conservative

  • but at the same time they really focus on the idea

  • that mediated viewing with a child,

  • in a sense that you watch something with the kid

  • and talk about it or educational high quality programming.

  • This is gonna sound like a plant,

  • but many of my patients and families

  • are watching Khan Academy, you know, as part of this

  • because you know, in that sense there are parents

  • that have said, look, if my kids are gonna be on screens

  • and that's gonna be how they're gonna occupy themselves

  • through this crisis, I may as well make some good choices

  • about what I'm exposing them to.

  • And there'll be some time that I give them

  • where they choose it.

  • And then other times where I say,

  • here's a forum that I know is all high quality content,

  • choose from this and occupy thyself with something,

  • you know, like the boxer rebellion I saw framed,

  • you know, on your white or your chalkboard behind you,

  • that's a great thing

  • - That has been in my to do for a while.

  • I still have not made the boxer rebellion.

  • I'm well-researched on it, but, I haven't made it yet.

  • But,

  • - In that case, we're previewing that it's coming contents

  • that people

  • - It's been up there for a while.

  • I gotta be careful what I write up there.

  • So, the next, next question was maybe almost,

  • almost asymmetric opposite of that.

  • Well, maybe it's related from Facebook,

  • Surabi Srivastava says, how to manage a teenager

  • who's taking the quarantine like fish to water,

  • need to break him away from the screen

  • with very limited choices.

  • So this is a parent who's worried because it's maybe

  • their child really likes this COVID world.

  • - It is, we're, we're hearing that,

  • I'm sorry, my reception is jumping again,

  • but we're, we're hearing that a lot from teenage parents

  • is that we get one of two concerns in one of two directions.

  • It's either I'm worried about how my teenager's

  • gonna cope with the lack of, you know,

  • connection with friends.

  • How do I deal with that?

  • And that kind of references the answer

  • I gave to an earlier question.

  • And then there's the, they're not coming out of their room

  • like, you know, do you, do you think they're depressed

  • or could it be that they're just, you know,

  • not liking time spent with their family

  • or they're liking this too much

  • and all our possible conclusions,

  • you know, we've helped many a parent

  • to just kind of think through the fact

  • that your teenager isn't, is in their room,

  • may not necessarily mean their mood is low

  • or they've experienced any disruption in their eating

  • or sleeping patterns or you know,

  • that they're feeling all hopeless.

  • They may just be enjoying themselves like a pig in mud,

  • in that sense.

  • So you know, when, when we see this kind of thing

  • with teenagers, we've tried to talk parents

  • through two kind of major strategies.

  • One is just kind of trying to get to their non-negotiables.

  • You know, when do you want your teenager out of their room,

  • family meals, at least an hour a day.

  • Maybe they gotta take a walk outside

  • cause you have decreed they have to get some exercise,

  • while practicing social distancing.

  • You know, we get those non negotiables.

  • And then the other thing, we've been coaching parents on

  • is strategies to keep the teenager out of their room

  • when they spontaneously emerge.

  • So in that sense, we try to coach teenage parents

  • or parents of teenagers on, you know,

  • trying not to pepper the kiddo with questions

  • the moment they walk out,

  • use declarative statements,

  • praise something you know, they might've done.

  • Like, it really seemed like you were working

  • on your English essay hard earlier today,

  • or hey, you know, I'm making spaghetti sauce,

  • you always know how to make it just right.

  • You know, it's that you're trying to draw

  • them out with skills they have,

  • value to the family, you know, and conversation,

  • rather than, did you get your schoolwork done today?

  • You know, what else was on your list,

  • which inevitably sends a teenager back into their room.

  • - Yeah, I really liked that last point.

  • You know, a lot of times I always say,

  • and this isn't based on research, but more just gut senses.

  • You know, teenagers, especially our prodo adults,

  • you know, biologically the nature would allow them

  • to be even be parents, not recommending it

  • by any stretch of the imagination,

  • but that implies that they are psychologically

  • and biologically capable of caring for themselves

  • and others.

  • But modern society has kind of just kept them

  • only worrying about themselves.

  • And your last point about helping with the pasta,

  • it's really like, hey, let's make,

  • I'm gonna treat you like an adult

  • or a pro prodo adult or pre adult.

  • I'm gonna give you some responsibility

  • for the household as well.

  • - I think what you're highlighting

  • is the intersection of resources, socio-economic status,

  • cultural background and maturity

  • in the sense that, you know,

  • in within kind of American culture,

  • we have sort of a period of extended adolescence

  • in which we've really very gradually

  • ask teenagers who are seeking novelty,

  • or seeking new experiences, to take on responsibilities.

  • Now that is very much converging

  • with the fact that if parents are experiencing

  • job insecurity during this time or they're overwhelmed

  • for childcare, we're often asking teenagers

  • to take on a larger share of their responsibility

  • In a crisis like this one or when someone

  • is confronting that kind of, you know,

  • situation just in general.

  • So it really, you know, the question of a teenager

  • takes to COVID a little bit too much, usually entails

  • the fact that that teenager's main responsibility

  • prior to this was perhaps school.

  • And you know, that in some sense it's okay

  • if we're a little bit stricter about the idea

  • that we need some help during this time.

  • And it may be, it may behoove them

  • to kind of serve the family a little bit better

  • than they might have otherwise since their day job,

  • school has sort of shifted this.

  • - Yeah, and I think we have time

  • for maybe one more question.

  • There's a couple of questions that are in this category.

  • This is, from several folks

  • who are talking about feeling stressed,

  • either when they're trying to learn a specific thing

  • like math or reading or feeling stressed

  • because they actually have a fairly large to do list

  • from school and they're feeling

  • like they're not able to do it.

  • What tips do you have to those students

  • who are feeling stressed?

  • - Yeah, I mean, part of it is that I think

  • everybody's managing this crisis together.

  • So more so than ever, it both feels alone,

  • but you're not alone.

  • So, you know, the reality is we're hearing

  • from so many students who will tell us

  • I can't manage the workload or I feel so ashamed

  • because the other students seem to be taking

  • to this online learning like a fish out of water,

  • but not me.

  • And I don't, we don't really meet people

  • who are finding it easy during this time.

  • So I think it's more that we wanna encourage people

  • to reach out to their fellow students

  • for how they're coping with this

  • and to reach out to their teachers

  • because we're all, I think, you know,

  • functioning on more limited time

  • and, kind of head space than we normally have.

  • But at the same time, we wanna help.

  • Like we know that a switch from in-person

  • to online schooling will not come without bumps.

  • And so for that reason we've seen teachers

  • more so than ever, you know, interested

  • in connecting really quick individually

  • to try to help a student through something.

  • We're figuring out how they can get support.

  • And I think that a lot of teenagers we see

  • and college students are really surprised by that.

  • - Yeah, and I'll just add to that,

  • because we've been seeing that type of stress,

  • not just among students using Khan Academy,

  • but we've been seeing it even in our own employee base

  • where you know, folks have, you know,

  • their head space has shrunk.

  • There's a baseline of anxiety or dread going on

  • and then they're taking care of kids.

  • They have a, might have a, a family member who's having

  • financial difficulty cause they lost.

  • I mean there's just all sorts of stresses that are going on.

  • And then they're also trying to do their work

  • and they're feeling almost guilt or stress.

  • They're like, Oh my God, the goals

  • that I thought I was gonna be able to do

  • are not realistic anymore.

  • And what we're telling our team members,

  • and what we tell everyone

  • is no one is judging anyone right now.

  • Anyway, I only judge the people who are judging others,

  • right now (laughs)

  • - We keep telling folks, you take bite sized chunks

  • and then you do it in this as high quality as you can,

  • but don't think about quantity or the same productivity

  • right now, no one's capable of

  • - Right, and no one is judging it,

  • and you just have to release yourself.

  • I think, for example, a lot of schools,

  • even my own children's school,

  • they've given a very robust list of things

  • for the students to do.

  • But, I think I can speak on their behalf.

  • They completely get that if kids or their parents

  • are not in a position to keep the kids

  • to do everything on that checklist,

  • it's completely okay.

  • We're all trying to cope with this situation

  • in whatever way we can.

  • So, Dave, thanks so much for joining.

  • We're at time every day.

  • This, you know, this half an hour goes by fast

  • and today was even faster than normal.

  • A sign of how much fun we're having.

  • I think you're gonna be able to join us

  • hopefully in future live streams.

  • And I just wanna tell everyone as what Dave and I just said,

  • you know, you might feel physically separated from others

  • and Dave gave some good ideas for how you might

  • feel a little bit mentally closer,

  • or emotionally closer to others in this time of crisis.

  • And the whole point of this live stream

  • is for all of us to realize

  • that we're in this together.

  • The whole world is going through this.

  • So as best as you can, you know, keep safe and stay healthy

  • and don't beat up yourself too much,

  • and take some time to breathe, relax,

  • meditate, whatever it takes to kind of give

  • yourself that mental reset.

  • We'll see you tomorrow.

  • - Brilliant advice.

- Khan Academy, welcome to The Daily Homeroom livestream,

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