Name: 2017人物07：卡爾-榮格與獅子王（第一部）。 (2017 Personality 07: Carl Jung and the Lion King (Part 1))
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so I think the best way to continue to walk you through the thinkers that we're

planning to cover is to do that with examples they stick better and they're

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more interesting and it's very difficult to understand you outside of a narrative

context and so I'm going to walk you through the Lion King today how many of

you have seen the Lion King yes so how many of you haven't right okay so

so you obviously were raised in a box somewhere out in the middle of field so

anyways you know it's it's it's an amazingly popular animated movie I think

it was the most highest grossing animated movie ever made made until

frozen which I actually absolutely detested but the Lion King The Lion King

is actually consciously influenced by archetypes as well as unconsciously

influenced by them so it's a bit of a cheat I would say in some sense but it

doesn't I don't for the purposes that we're using it for I think it's just

fine and so partly what you might think about is that it's its relationship to

archetypal themes that made it so overwhelmingly popular it's same being

the case with say books and movies like Harry Potter or the entire Marvel series

the Marvel series is quite interesting I know somebody who wrote for Batman and

for Wolverine I know Batman he's into Marvel comic but one of the things that

he told me that was quite interesting was that once these characters take off

and establish a life of their own they have a backstory and which becomes part

of the mythology that's collectively held by the readers and if you you can

invent an alternative universe where you can muck about with the backstory but

otherwise you better stick with it or the readers are gonna write you and tell

you that you've got the story wrong and so there's a bit of a collaboration

between the writers and the readers after these things take on a life of

their own and so and of course the they they tend to the the comic books in

particular tend to tend towards mythological themes very very rapidly

and so anyways Carl Jung was a fascinating person I think

you can read his biography autobiography / biography which is called memories

dreams and reflections which in many ways I think is an unfortunate book

because it's usually the only book that people read that's that is more or less

by young but and it is more popular yet popularly accessible which is probably a

good thing but it's also it's not as rigorous as his other books and so the

problem with someone like Jung is you kind of have to read him as much as you

can in the original because interpreting him is not a very straightforward matter

he was a very visionary person by which I mean he had an incredible visual

imagination and he used that a lot he used it in his therapy practice I

believe that most of his therapy clients were high in trade openness I have a lot

of clients who are high in trade openness they kind of seek me out

because I'm high and trade openness and you know they watch my videos and that

sort of thing and they're interested in what I'm doing and many of them are

astute dreamers and prolific dreamers and many open people in my experience

have archetypal dreams whereas people who are lower in openness they either

don't dream at all or they don't remember their dreams as much or they're

not interested in them and they're not interested in the mythological

underpinnings of them so I've taught psychology roughly speaking to many

different types of people including lawyers and lawyers and physicians and

they tend to be higher in trade conscientiousness than in openness and

they're much more interested in the practical applications of psychology and

maybe the big five theories than they are in the narrative underpinnings and

you know people say that when they went to um-- they had union dreams but I

don't and then when they went to Freud they had Freudian dreams and I don't

really believe that's exactly true I think it was a matter of selection bias

a priori selection bias on the part of the people who were likely to go see

either of those two and so but I've been struck by some clients in particular how

unbelievably continually they can generate deep archetypal dreams with a

really coherent narrative structure it's really phenomenal and how revealing

those dreams our problem with archetypal dreams is that they're not really

personal right so if you're looking for a personal way out of a situation an

archetypal dream doesn't help you that much because it gives you the general

pattern rather than a specific solution to your problem

but a good dream will do both at once anyways yung was an astute student of

Freud's I will cover Freud next although generally and in personality courses the

the order is reversed Freud first menuing because of their temporal of the

temporal order of their thought but I think it's better to start with Jung

because it's it's as if you Freud excavated into the basement and then

Jung excavated into many many floors underneath the basement of the mind and

so from if you're transitioning from an archaic understanding of archaic modes

of thinking towards Freud it's better to go through young because Jung is I think

I think Freudian theory is a subset of Jungian Theory fundamentally just like

Newtonian physics is a subset of Einstein Ian's physics and I think that

Freud knew that even to some degree although he was very much opposed to any

sort of religious thinking or mythological religious thinking I would

say he was a real 19th century materialist and he didn't like the fact

that Jung's work started to delve into religious themes in a manner that

actually in some sense validated those themes and so that's actually why they

split they split when you published a book called symbols of transformation

Jung was also a deep student of Nietzsche Nietzsche wrote a book called

thus spake Zarathustra which is kind of an Old Testament revelation poetry kind

of book it's a strange one and I wouldn't recommend if you want to read

Nietzsche that you start with that one but most people do but you get a seminar

on thus spake Zarathustra which is about I've got this wrong it's somewhere

between 700 and 1100 pages long and it only covers the first third of the book

and thus spake Zarathustra is actually quite a short book and so well so you

can imagine how much you had to know about Nietzsche to derive that many

words out of that few words and Nietzsche was a well an absolute

absolute genius and Jung was actually trying to answer the question that

Nietzsche posed fundamentally which is why part of the reason why it's

incorrect historically to consider him a Freudian he was so nietzsche basically

stated let's say explicitly that scientific empiricism / rationalist

had resulted in the death of the mythological tradition of the west

roughly speaking that's Nietzsche's comment on the death of God and in that

comment he also said that the fact that God was dead was going to produce

tremendous idiy a tional and social historical upheavals that would result

in the deaths of millions of people that that he didn't say all that in one place

it's it's spread between part of its in will to power and and I can't remember

the source of the other one some of its referenced and thus spake Zarathustra

but Nietzsche believed that in order to overcome the collapse of traditional

values with the idea say of God as its cornerstone people would have to become

creatures that could produce their own values as a replacement that we would

have to become capable of generating autonomous values and Jung but but

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