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  • Welcome to the Joma Show That show where we give you tips and tricks on how to land a successful career in tech.

  • Now, today we have a special guest Yuko doing so I guess.

  • First things first.

  • Happy Halloween.

  • You have any caution?

  • I'm still working on my right now, but I am goingto show on Tuesday on Halloween night s so I'm pretty excited for that.

  • Yeah, Yeah, I'm thinking of just bringing this deal, showing everyone and stuff like that, but Yeah, cool.

  • I guess I'll start some short questions.

  • Just a seeing, you know, if we can be friends.

  • Okay, so but there's no right answer.

  • Okay, But there's a right answer if you want to be.

  • Oh, okay.

  • Hopefully right.

  • Mac or PC back.

  • Okay.

  • Good answer.

  • IPhone or Android iPhone?

  • It was pop in.

  • Okay.

  • Favorite programming language.

  • Swift.

  • Okay, that's okay.

  • Cousin IOS.

  • And, uh, okay, I guess.

  • What about favorite editor for your editor?

  • You know, I have a love and hate relationship with this one, but it has to be X code.

  • That makes sense.

  • Yeah.

  • Can you cold?

  • Like, not on next code?

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • Must be a lot harder it is because I'm all about him.

  • Yeah, you can code on them, but then you don't get all the like.

  • Yeah, that's true.

  • I think that's why I'm not a less engineer.

  • I could never do that.

  • Okay, What about this Coffee or tea, huh?

  • One is a T T.

  • Yeah, that's good.

  • Actually, don't drink either.

  • That wasn't even a question.

  • Uh, like in water.

  • You know what this Do you guys have this?

  • No, we don't have that.

  • Sponsored by water were like every other tech company.

  • And now I have a shift in the Lacroix.

  • What is that?

  • Because it's like the It's like flavored sparkling water is in the little Yeah.

  • Yeah, all right.

  • They're kind of like him, but, you know, fizzled, I guess.

  • Yeah.

  • Cool.

  • Cool.

  • Cool.

  • So you are an IOS engineer.

  • I am a patriot.

  • Yeah.

  • Um, So, yeah, I'm I wasn't here.

  • A patron I've been doing I was relevant for about three years now.

  • Um, and I haven't done any other like types of mobile programming, but yeah, I used to work at into it, and I worked on the turbo tax and QuickBooks APS.

  • And now I work pay.

  • Tron have been there for about a year and 1/2 now, but yeah, it's really fun.

  • I like it a lot.

  • Wait.

  • So in into it were you in Iowa's engineer?

  • Also Iwas.

  • Okay, what about before done Before that I was in school And did you do any?

  • I was programming that took one class called mole programming, Uh, where we made in Iowa sat.

  • But actually, even before that, there was a software engineering course that I took where we made an android app.

  • So I'm meeting Andrew that before I mean, I'll a sap eso used like Andrew studio and then it came to ex cardinals like s code is so much cleaner is great.

  • Yeah, Yeah, I guess one thing I always want to know.

  • Like how you even get started if I wasn't like development because I always wanted to make apse because that's what that's what's cool.

  • Not like nobody uses like Web anymore.

  • It's just so hard, like the first thing I pop up is like ex cold, and then it tells me to download all these things.

  • I don't know what they are, and then out of the frames is that something like I have no idea.

  • How do I even get started?

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • So I was Definitely.

  • There is a lot of different things that you need to learn in order to get started.

  • And so that could be really intimidating for folks.

  • When I first started doing I West Moment in that mobile programming class, we opened up X Code.

  • And there were so many knobs that I would just like, uh, panic Can't do it on dso when I got started.

  • Thankfully, there's a TA that walked us through how to use it on.

  • So once we understood how to use executed, it obviously become a lot easier.

  • But in terms of the actual, like programming language, swift and objective, see which people don't typically learnt in school A cz well, as like all the different patterns and frameworks and stuff that you have to use, it can be really intimidating.

  • But thankfully, there's a lot of online resource is like a lot of other programming languages, and the two that I recommend for getting started is one actually by apple.

  • Um, Apple is really trying to get more people to do IOS development.

  • That was part of the motivation for inventing the programming language.

  • Swift.

  • Ah, and so if you actually look up like IOS tutorial by Apple, there is a great tutorial that teaches you how to make your first app on, and it shows you kind of step by step like where to click and all those kinds of things, as well as one to code My second most recommended like to Actually, I have three.

  • So my 2nd 1 is a website called Ray Wonder like dot com.

  • Uh, we wondered, like is a person that was just like Web site has a bunch of writers that writes thes tutorials and the IOS tutorials or Super super good.

  • They again our step by step tutorials and like, Here's what you need a code.

  • Here's what you need to d'oh Ah!

  • And has everything from like how to even get started to like.

  • Here's how to use this very specific framework to do a very specific thing, like I don't maybe want to like, used the camera to detect if it's a fruit worked at the hot dog in Silicon Valley.

  • I watched a little bit of it.

  • It was like Jin Yang goes like a developer.

  • He made it up that can detect what the food is.

  • Yeah, and then he does them always like, Oh, it's hot dog.

  • But then when you point out something else that just says not And that's why I e d c.

  • This year came out with, like, uh, a R v R R US Air kit and like, a arc it like they basically integrated into iPhone, right?

  • And so they were doing much demos.

  • There's so many references to like Hot Dog, not hot dog.

  • I feel like going to the show one.

  • Yeah, but yeah, that's cool.

  • Yeah, so I guess, like, you know, back and engineers, we have, like, some inside jokes.

  • You know, Buster, things are like certain bugs that we encounter frequently.

  • Are there any Iowa's things?

  • They're similar.

  • Yeah, my favorite.

  • My favorite ones are against Ex Code, which is the idea that we used to dio development.

  • But X code is like like I think any I d can be really finicky.

  • So there's two jokes running jokes that I like love.

  • And one is, um, like if we say to each other like, Oh, have you tried cleaning drive data on Dr Date is just like this cash that the extra uses to be able to compile faster.

  • But if something doesn't work, then that's like, kind of gently.

  • The first thing that you d'oh, I think one of my top tweets is actually a team.

  • I mean, that's my claim to fame on Twitter, and there's actually my second favorite one against executed.

  • That is just like Tumbler.

  • I forget what it's called.

  • It must be something called like shit experts others.

  • But it's like a text message thread between yourself and ex coach.

  • And so it likes, throws different errors and staff.

  • And you're like, Wait, But why is it in there?

  • So it just repeats the air is just all these things that extra dozen so annoying.

  • But I love that black.

  • So that's interesting.

  • Is that your favorite evidences X code?

  • But it's also like super Yeah, that's that's interesting.

  • Yeah, cool.

  • I guess I want no more like about you, you know, like for example, I guess Just tell me about your life story and then we'll go to high school and college All the secret dirt.

  • I wanna know everything.

  • All right.

  • We're gonna be really vulnerable.

  • Realize.

  • Here's cool.

  • So I was born in the East Coast of Massachusetts, specifically.

  • Yeah.

  • And, uh, I was really little when we moved back to Japan.

  • My family and I, um and we lived there for about two years.

  • Part of Japan in Kobe?

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • It's kind of like Kyoto Osaka area.

  • Kobe is known, like most commonly tied to Kobe beef.

  • Oh, yeah.

  • Kobe Bryant way lived there for, like, two years.

  • And then we move back to the States when I was, like, three something, so I barely remember living in Japan.

  • But I lived in the East Coast until I was about 10 living between like New York and Connecticut.

  • And so, like my early childhood memories were like, You know how, Dex, New Days, my plane leaves and all that stuff.

  • I was also, like, the only Asian kid in school for a lot of the time, so yeah, uh, and then when I moved, I moved to San Diego.

  • California.

  • Ted.

  • Yeah.

  • Hey, just really You know, dude, um and yeah, I went to middle school high school there, and then I went to college at UC San Diego, which is only, like, 20 minutes away from the house.

  • But I went there and got my degree in computer science and dealers area.

  • Cool.

  • Yeah, I guess.

  • Like one question, because when I was a kid, like an elementary school, I guess you know, I like things are more engineering type, but I just didn't know.

  • For example, I like building Legos or I like playing this game called Kingdom Hearts.

  • It is one small part of the game where you could build a spaceship.

  • I love that I played them more than the actual game.

  • I just loved building things.

  • Yeah.

  • So what about you?

  • Like, when you were a child, do anything like that?

  • Not really.

  • Actually, I'm trying to think back, and I couldn't really like like, I wasn't someone who played with a bunch of Legos.

  • Um, I also wasn't, I guess, Like one thing that I think was coming to a lot of life girls might like that were my age was laying Neopets.

  • Yeah.

  • Beast used to play like stock market in the old pads Used to trade like the marketplace.

  • Like buying cells that I trained my little Kiko.

  • I think that was a no pet named Kiko become really strong.

  • And I was like beating everyone in the stadium.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, I I always like, mate.

  • Meet you like my like new pets page or whatever you used to, like, make my page look good.

  • Well, I think that was kind of one of my first exposure is thio.

  • But also, I was always like, getting free omelets, Sporting Wheel of Fortune, getting all the free stuff at new love.

  • That was super fun, Burton that I think generally like I really liked math when I was growing up.

  • Boom is four minus one.

  • That's frequently on.

  • So, like, playing computer games?

  • Yeah, I was that person playing computer games that were, like, math oriented.

  • Even if it was looking like what, you know, in elementary school, they try to get you to play the educational.

  • Yeah, they're not e I was games.

  • Okay.

  • There is one game that I love playing that was like this, like cash register game form the amount with your exact like, which points and chain on.

  • I was like, This is so cool.

  • This is what I want.

  • Video dynamic program.

  • E did just like this is what I would want to do when I grow up.

  • I wanna, like, do this Matthew stuff in.

  • Whatever.

  • Like, I love that game.

  • Not even again.

  • It was I love that.

  • Um, yeah, I think Yeah.

  • And then, like, as I became a teenager, Xanga was a big thing.

  • And also, like customizing using page Yeah, on.

  • Like even though a lot of it was kind of like, you know, I didn't make a whole template for his anger for my page, but being able to tweak little things here and there to make it look like I wanted it too.

  • I guess it was kind of an early indicator.

  • Yeah, that's you, like, you have to, like, cold a little bit, like, at least like the hex numbers colors and still a little bit like going to CSX and making sure that I have the right color like colors were kind of like the big thing.

  • Just a lot of like you.

  • Why type things and like moving like maybe I don't want this here, but I want it here and reading through the channel slash ex similar whatever it was written in to do that?

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • So I mean, since you liked math so much where you're, like a nerd in school.

  • Kind of waas.

  • I was definitely, like, you know, on second they're great.

  • You do those, like multiplication tables, like sheets that you have to finish in five minutes.

  • I was, like, always the 1st 1 to be done.

  • Yeah, but also, like my dad taught me my most applications tables.

  • Really?

  • Your own like parents, too.

  • And there's like, there's like a Cantonese, not a song, but they make you memorize in gas in Japanese.

  • So I'm actually pretty bad at multiplication when we do, like, contest like me against, like a friend because they would say it in French to translate Cantonese doodle location and then re translated to confront Oh, my God.

  • It was so hard people thought was super slow.

  • It was just a language barrier was a language barrier.

  • Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  • So what about what about high school?

  • Who would you hang out with?

  • Me like math was like, Yeah, well, so my school was really big.

  • My hospital had about.

  • I think my graduating class is about 700 people, so they're thousands of kids in school.

  • So when there is that many kids in school, there's a lot like clicks, right?

  • Way have, like the skater kids and the jocks and the cheerleaders and all of the skater.

  • But we were more like rappers and skaters.

  • That was the thing.

  • I don't think there are any represent my school.

  • Didn't they just, like trapped, not take skills?

  • That was really impressive.

  • Impressive.

  • Yeah.

  • So, like, I was like, I'm not like a nerd nerd.

  • I'm not gonna be in length Science Olympiad or anything like that.

  • But I did play tennis, and I did orchestra.

  • And I was also like, Yeah, I played violin.

  • Oh, not very Asian, Very difficult insurance.