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  • Hey, Mind Field! Vanessa here.

  • Just kidding. My name is actually Michael.

  • That part when I said that I was Vanessa...

  • that was a lie.

  • So you're welcome.

  • Humans love lies.

  • More precisely,

  • we love things that aren't entirely true--

  • because we have to.

  • It's often all we have.

  • Completely proving something can be difficult,

  • if not impossible.

  • So instead, we have the faith of the believer,

  • the confidence interval of the scientist.

  • What we think we know,

  • we really only believe we know.

  • On this episode of Mind Field, I'm going to take a look at

  • a kind of lie we tell ourselves.

  • And I'm going to use belief to turn a lie...into a truth.

  • ( theme music playing )

  • Michael: If I'm going to harness the power of belief,

  • I need to find a good way to study belief and behavior.

  • So I'm paying a visit to UCLA's Dr. Aaron Blaisdell,

  • who I worked with on last season's

  • "Greater Good" Trolley Problem episode.

  • ( train whistle blowing )

  • Dr. Blaisdell, great to see you again.

  • Nice to see you again, Michael.

  • Thank you for your help last season,

  • but I've got this new thing I want to look into.

  • I started thinking a lot about belief

  • and how we form them.

  • Specifically beliefs about what causes our behavior.

  • I want to be able to break it down

  • and just look at how people respond to the environment around them

  • and how it changes their belief.

  • Well, a Skinner Box is a great place to start.

  • because what I tell my students is,

  • a Skinner Box, for a psychologist like myself,

  • is like a test tube for a chemist.

  • Dr. Skinner, what are you doing with this pigeon?

  • I'm getting ready to demonstrate a fundamental principle of behavior.

  • Michael: Invented by Harvard psychologist B.F. Skinner,

  • a Skinner Box is a chamber in which animals

  • can be isolated and exposed to carefully controlled stimuli.

  • In one of his landmark experiments,

  • Skinner released food to pigeons in the boxes

  • at regular intervals.

  • What he found was that the pigeons seemed to believe

  • that whatever they happened to be doing

  • just before the food came

  • actually caused the food to appear,

  • and would then repeat that behavior over and over--

  • for example, hopping around or spinning in circles.

  • Skinner called this "superstitious behavior."

  • So what do you want to do-- what's your dream test?

  • Basically a replication of Skinner's superstitious experiment,

  • but instead of with pigeons, with people.

  • I would love to see: will people develop

  • their own sort of superstitious rituals or beliefs.

  • Have we done this with people before?

  • I don't think such a rigorous test of this has been done.

  • I think primarily, from the literature I know, it's pretty much pigeons.

  • B.F. Skinner's work showed that if you

  • regularly deliver a reward to a pigeon,

  • regardless of how it actually acts,

  • the pigeon won't figure that out.

  • Instead, the pigeon will develop superstitious behaviors

  • as if it thinks it is in control,

  • despite the lack of any evidence that it is.

  • But what about humans?

  • Watching people form new superstitions

  • might show us how beliefs are created, but here's the thing:

  • You can't just put a person in a Skinner Box.

  • People are quite clever, and so instead,

  • along with Dr. Aaron Blaisdell,

  • I have developed a much more elaborate ruse.

  • Welcome to Victory Vault.

  • Michael: "Victory Vault" is a fake game show we made up

  • to draw our unsuspecting subjects

  • into taking part in a human Skinner Box.

  • To accomplish this, we rented a sound stage

  • and constructed what appeared to be a game show set,

  • but was really our study.

  • We outfitted the room with a checkboard floor,

  • a button that serves no purpose,

  • multiple cameras and a live microphone,

  • all of which have absolutely no connection to winning the game.

  • We also included an ATM slot on the wall where, instead of food,

  • dollar bills would be fed into the room

  • at regular intervals.

  • Meanwhile, I would be playing the role

  • of the executive producer of this new game show

  • testing out the concept for a television network.

  • Our first subject is Rebecca.

  • Yes, I know nothing. I'm excited.

  • Excellent, excellent.

  • Well, I'll you some things that you need to know.

  • One, you will get to keep all of the money that you get today.

  • The object of the game is to collect as much money as possible.

  • - OK. ( laughs ) - Now, you will have ten minutes,

  • and that's all I'm going to tell you.

  • - Go. OK? - OK.

  • - Rebecca: OK. - Michael (over loudspeaker): All right, Rebecca, begin

  • in three, two, one, go!

  • Blaisdell: Of course, right to the button,

  • but she's not fixated on it,

  • she's definitely looking around there.

  • Rebecca: I'm trying to figure out

  • if there's, like, a puzzle, or what this is about.

  • Am I supposed to just get out?

  • No, not supposed to get out. OK.

  • Oh! OK, there's money. Is that one clue?

  • Rebecca: I've earned one dollar. ( laughs )

  • See? She's "earned" one dollar. Earned.

  • I mean, she thinks she caused it to happen.

  • Let's see. I think I might be onto something

  • - with this door, maybe? - Uh-huh.

  • - OK. - Blaisdell: The second dollar bill

  • came out really shortly after she manipulated the door.

  • That's what Skinner would call "adventitious reinforcement."

  • She accidentally just happened to be doing something,

  • - and now look. - Hello?

  • Look, it reinforced that behavior, look how strong it's become.

  • Now she's doing a lot with the door,

  • and this dancing, just like one of Skinner's pigeons.

  • - Anything? - See?

  • Michael: For the first two minutes,

  • Rebecca believed a specific combination

  • of the door and the button

  • were triggering the money.

  • She had created a superstitious ritual.

  • But when her old ritual ceased to line up with the reward being delivered,

  • she started exploring new actions.

  • Would you like to keep sending money?

  • Is it something with this? Hello, dollar bill.

  • Michael: This change in Rebecca's behavior

  • indicates that she stopped believing that pressing the button

  • is associated with money coming out.

  • Skinner called this "extinction."

  • ( singing ) ♪ Keep sending money, what if I dance? ♪

  • Michael: Not it seems she believes

  • her new actions might connect to the reward.

  • - Five, four, three, - ( Rebecca yelps )

  • - two, one... - Let's try coming out again.

  • - zero, stop. - And... OK.

  • I don't think I solved this mystery.

  • ( laughs )

  • Michael: Rebecca! You got some money, huh?

  • - I did! - Come take a seat.

  • So, first of all, how'd it go?

  • Oh! Very confusing.

  • I wasn't able to fully figure it out,

  • but it was something to do with the 20 white squares on the floor.

  • Something to do with the red button as well, like a pattern, maybe?

  • Oh! Maybe I should have tried clicking on the button 20 times.

  • - Yes! - OK, you wanna know what makes the money come out?

  • Yes. It's probably something really crazy.

  • - It's just 30 seconds passing. - Blaissdell: Yep.

  • - It has nothing to do with what you do. - Ohh!

  • You would have gotten the same amount,

  • but you could just sat on the floor and done nothing.

  • - ( laughing ) - Yeah.

  • This is actually a psychological experiment

  • based on some work done by B.F. Skinner,

  • and we are looking at the kinds of behaviors people invent

  • that they think controls the money.

  • - But I think this was fascinating. - Blaisdell: Yeah.

  • - And you really do get to keep the money. - Yay!

  • - Rebecca, thank you for your help today. - Cool. Thank you, guys.

  • Michael: Rebecca's rituals seemed to indicate

  • that she thought performing for the camera

  • would work the best.

  • Her beliefs about TV shows informed

  • the kinds of superstitions she would create.

  • But will other people develop the same superstitions?

  • Or will it depend on the beliefs and expectations they already have?

  • The object of Victory Vault

  • is to collect as much money as you can.

  • Oh, OK. Well, let me take these accessories off there really quickly.

  • As soon as that door closes, your ten minutes starts.

  • I don't get to ask questions?

  • Not on Victory Vault.

  • Michael: See you in ten minutes.

  • All right.

  • Where's the cash?

  • It's like an escape room.

  • Am I supposed to push this?

  • Blaisdell: Some people really wanted instructions. Michael: Yeah.

  • Contestant: I feel like if I push this, the time is gonna be up.

  • Michael: Like Rebecca, all of our subjects

  • immediately gravitated to the useless button.

  • That button is so salient.

  • Push the button?

  • Oh, shit!

  • ( Michael, Blaisdell laugh )

  • He was a little surprised at that.

  • Push the button?

  • Oh! OK, I think I get it. Is it push the button?

  • Will I push the button? Am I supposed to push the button?

  • ( rapping ) ♪ If you're gon' push the button, then you're goin' with the button

  • And I'm pushin' on the button-- ♪

  • Michael: It was clear that most of the superstitions

  • began with the button, but evolved into something else

  • very quickly, including this guy,

  • whose superstitious behavior

  • was doing absolutely nothing.

  • Blaisdell: He's just standing there.

  • Michael: Yeah. Will he do something...?

  • ( chuckling )

  • Maybe taking the money is...bad?

  • I know strippers get singles for dancing.

  • Blaisdell: Is he gonna dance? I hope he doesn't strip for us.

  • I can't dance like that.

  • Maybe I can sweet talk the machine.

  • It's just giving me money at this point.

  • I'm not doing anything. ( laughs )

  • Blaisdell: He's no fool.

  • He's not really showing much superstitious behavior.

  • Even in Skinner's experiments,

  • not all the pigeons showed superstitious behaviors.

  • Michael: Obviously there's a game, I called it a game show.

  • But the money's just piling up like it's contagious.

  • Oh, look!

  • Uh-- Oh.

  • He really doesn't want to push it.

  • Come on. Press it four times, out comes the money.

  • - Press it four times? - Out comes the money.

  • ( contestant laughing )

  • Press it four times, out comes the money.

  • She believes that pressing the button is necessary, is a cause.

  • And the ritual consists of a few actions strung together.

  • Five, four, three...

  • two...one, stop.

  • Can I push the button?

  • - Time is up. - Damn.

  • Stay where you are. We will see you very soon.

  • I feel like I was supposed to push the button.

  • Michael: Pigeons don't enter a Skinner Box

  • with nearly as many preconceived notions as humans do.

  • Humans come in with a rich diversity of expectations.

  • Some think they need to perform for the camera, or make the producers laugh.

  • This guy thought that the secret was to just be different.

  • Hold it! Oh, I thought--

  • Take a seat.

  • - What was that? - Michael : Great work.

  • What made the money come out?

  • This is what I finally thought.

  • It was a test not to push the button,

  • and then as I kept saying a cer-- a word--

  • like phrase and "button," it kept coming out.

  • But I didn't know how it was supposed to be phrased.

  • Hit that button. Hit it a lot.

  • As if your life depended on it.

  • I was thinking, "What would people not do?"

  • - Hmm. - Probably just stand there.

  • So I was like, well, let's just stand there and see what happens.

  • Maybe they'll reward patience over impulsiveness.

  • - You started doing exercises. - Man: Yeah.

  • I don't know if it rewarded you

  • for just being-- doing crazy things.

  • Did you learn anything?

  • That it was dispensing like a dollar every,

  • I don't know, like 30 seconds or something.

  • You're right.

  • You had no control over when the money came out.

  • It's pretty interesting. I'm wondering

  • - if that's because of who you are... - Yep.

  • - Wh-Who are you? - Blaisdell: Elaborate.

  • That's just like my thought process, I think,

  • like I'm just very observant.

  • You came up with this great

  • entering-and-exiting-the-room thing.

  • Tell me about that.

  • Because the money didn't start coming out

  • until after I-- I waited, I waited, I waited,

  • and nothing came out until after I left and came back in.

  • You shoulda just left me in there to get more money!

  • You made a sistah work hard for her money.

  • Michael: Victory Vault,

  • a.k.a. human Skinner Box experiment.

  • What are your thoughts?

  • We're really finding that humans are susceptible

  • to superstitious beliefs or behaviors.

  • You know what? I totally agree.

  • Except there were some people who were able to guess

  • with some degree of confidence that they didn't have control.

  • Some people were probably just skeptical from the get-go.

  • - Yeah. - And that's just their personality.

  • Yeah, the beliefs that people brought into that room

  • really affected what beliefs or lack thereof...

  • - ...they created in the room once the game started. - Yeah .

  • We're belief machines. We're pattern seekers.

  • And there's even a belief that in psychology and in anthropology

  • that may be the way a lot of rituals got started, by accidental reinforcement.

  • And then it becomes codified into a religion or a cultural practice.

  • Hmm.

  • Our human-sized Skinner Box

  • showed that when confronted with uncertainty,

  • people often behaved superstitiously,

  • under the belief that they do have control.

  • But of course, nothing anyone did in that box

  • would make the money come out any faster.

  • So those superstitions were lies.

  • But sometimes if a lie is believed in enough,

  • it can literally become true,

  • like a placebo.

  • Now, I've been watching a lot of horror movies lately,

  • and they gave me an idea.

  • If I'm able to find just the right preexisting beliefs

  • to wrap around a placebo,

  • could I literally make people believe

  • that I am possessing them with a spirit?

  • I want to perform a sham reverse exorcism.

  • Exorcisms are not some Hollywood fabrication...

  • and they didn't only happen hundreds of years ago.

  • In fact, in the United States alone,

  • there are currently 50 priests

  • endorsed by the Vatican's International Association of Exorcists,

  • up from just 12 a decade ago.

  • But what's a reverse exorcism?

  • It's something I made up

  • where instead of removing a spirit from someone,

  • you put one in them.

  • I want to do that because I don't think it's ethical

  • to tell someone they're possessed by a demon.

  • But I'll need some help,

  • and I know just who to ask.

  • Michael: Dr. Veissiére, thank you.

  • I had a blast last season.

  • I think that the work we did and the things you showed me

  • related to our power-of-suggestion work together on placebos

  • was so powerful.

  • Well, Michael, it's a real pleasure.

  • I'm honored to be here again.

  • It also is why you're the person I thought of

  • for what I want to do next.

  • Building on the work we did last season,

  • I want to explore belief

  • and what I can and cannot control.

  • I want to perform an accessory- assisted reverse exorcism.

  • - Hmm. - Reverse exorcism

  • because I'm not gonna tell you that you have a demon in you

  • or something in you that I'm gonna remove-- you're fine.

  • What I can do is make you feel like you're losing control.

  • You would like to experimentally induce

  • a spirit possession experience.

  • - Right. - I like that.

  • All right, let's talk details here.

  • Are there things we can do to increase the effectiveness

  • of our reverse exorcism ritual?

  • Yeah. I'm thinking we could probably use some tricks from hypnosis.

  • If we went them to have experiences,

  • we need to suggest those experiences to them specifically.

  • We would be using a lot of props from both religion and science

  • to get people's critical minds to relax,

  • and then we will throw in some suggestions.

  • So we've got religious iconography,

  • and we've got the paraphernalia of medical science.

  • Let's do this.

  • Michael: Almost everyone feels a certain way

  • in the presence of medical equipment,

  • and, even though not everyone observes the same religion.

  • Swiss psychologist Carl Jung posited that a person's

  • belief in a religious symbol

  • wasn't necessary for it to exert an influence on them.

  • Consciously, they may say it doesn't, but unconsciously, it will.

  • With Dr. Veissiére onboard,

  • I had Mind Field's art department

  • mock up our lab with plenty of scientific

  • and religious iconography.

  • Michael: With our lab dressed to Veissiére's specs,

  • everything is in place for our reverse exorcism.

  • Our five test subjects,

  • pre-screened and vetted by a psychologist,

  • arrived at the facility thinking that they were going to take part

  • in a broad study on the science of religion.

  • Immediately, we exposed them to things

  • that would convince them of the seriousness

  • of what they were about to do,

  • such as filling out extensive paperwork.

  • ( woman making announcement )

  • Michael: And an extended period of time in the waiting room

  • to increase anticipation and tension.

  • We even used a fake participant

  • to talk up his amazing experience

  • in earshot of the real subjects.

  • - Woman: Hi. - Hi.

  • - How was it? - That was crazy.

  • - Yeah? - That was something else.

  • Michael: And to really sell the illusion,

  • we used multiple actors, like a fake receptionist,

  • a nurse to check the patient's vitals,

  • and a pretend priest to add credibility

  • to the religious angle.

  • Dr. Veissiére played the role of a scientist

  • fascinated by the power of the ritual.

  • This should influence our participants,

  • because how could this all not be real

  • if a guy in a white lab coat is taking it so seriously?

  • So we are just about ready to begin.

  • Now, I'm watching hidden cameras that we have

  • in the exam room adjacent to us.

  • Let's see what sorts of altered states of consciousness we can create today.

  • Now, this is Jeremiah, and Jeremiah's been waiting for about an hour.

  • Actor/Nurse: So I'm gonna be placing this on your head.

  • It's called an EEG cap, it just measures

  • your brain activity.

  • This is a really important part of selling

  • the scientific realness of what we're doing.

  • Jeremiah, very pleased to meet you.

  • Thank you so much for coming.

  • Thank you so much again for your patience.

  • I think it's really important for Veissiére to talk about

  • how what's about to happen is special,

  • it's not a normal ritual.

  • In fact, it's not a ritual that any lay people really know about yet.

  • So the name of the study, it's a bit of a mouthful,

  • so we're looking at neural correlates and physiologic markers

  • of ritually induced mystical experiences.

  • I have run this experiment about 30 times,

  • and some people enter

  • some kind of encounter with

  • what they may call a divine presence.

  • - Jeremiah: How's it goin'? - Michael: Here comes the priest.

  • - I'm Jeremiah. Nice to meet you, sir. - Father Callahan.

  • "Father Callahan," the Stephen King character.

  • OK, we might have to change that.

  • Actor/Priest: Jeremiah, what I'd like you to do...

  • is relax, and I'd like you just to casually stare

  • at the crucifix, in the center.

  • Michael: We had our "priest" guide Jeremiah

  • through a holy ritual

  • which we told him was a thousand years old.

  • But in actuality, Dr. Veissiére wrote it himself

  • just before the demonstration.

  • Actor/Priest: And you may feel a tendency

  • that you want to let your hands raise

  • towards the sky as your body falls away.

  • Michael: Getting someone to literally act possessed

  • is definitely a difficult test of the placebo effect,

  • so I'm not exactly sure what kind of results we can expect.

  • However, I'm at least hoping that we learn from this

  • how to better tap into the power of people's beliefs.

  • Actor/Priest: Whatever the spirit needs to speak,

  • it will speak.

  • So now, as you keep relaxing, as the spirit prepares...

  • Jeremiah sat very still during the whole ritual,

  • but we were curious about what he experienced.

  • So what did that feel like?

  • Jeremiah: It was weird,

  • but I could feel like the presence,

  • it's a little graphic,

  • if some, like, cut my head off.

  • - I didn't feel anything below. - Right.

  • Michael: People don't normally have feelings

  • of decapitation and numbness,

  • so either we've stumbled upon a way to summon a spirit,

  • or our belief manipulation is working.

  • So we've been working together on this project,

  • and I was observing you from the other room.

  • And there are two really powerful kinds of symbols in the room.

  • Which one had the biggest kind of visceral effect on you?

  • I guess it was kind of a balance, because, like,

  • OK, it's religious, and the nurse comin' in,

  • science-- it kinda goes back and forth, so I want to say "even."

  • Well, more has been going on than what you know at this moment.

  • Joe--Father Callahan-- was not a priest.

  • - Mm-hmm. - He's an actor,

  • and everything that he read was written by Dr. Veissiére.

  • We're looking at how a thing that has no known causal link

  • to any particular reaction or behavior or feeling

  • can nonetheless induce a feeling.

  • Michael: Jeremiah's experience was pretty curious,

  • and since nothing too serious happened-- his head didn't spin around--

  • we felt more comfortable pushing things a bit further.

  • I'm the lead behavioral scientist in charge of the experiment,

  • this is my colleague Dr. Stevens.

  • Michael: First, I interacted with the participants

  • before the ritual, to build up their expectation

  • of something happening-- like...possession.

  • So today, you will be listening to a reverse exorcism.

  • - OK. - I'm already possessed. I'm already possessed.

  • Michael: We also decided to dim the lights

  • to decrease their inhibitions and increase the atmosphere.

  • Michael: I think it's gonna be great for our participants and for the whole mood.

  • I mean, it's spooky stuff.

  • Before you can fully experience the divine,

  • I'll simply just invite you to kind of relax...

  • Michael: And we decided to have Dr. Veissiére

  • lead the ritual instead of our "priest,"

  • so that he could use

  • his training in behavioral psychology

  • to harness the power of suggestion.

  • The priest continued to serve

  • as an important religious anchor point

  • for the subject to focus on.

  • Veissiére: All of your actions and reactions

  • gradually fade and disappear

  • as your body is now approaching the divine.

  • You may notice...

  • your fingers tingling a little.

  • You may feel your mouth... needing to tweak a little.

  • Her mouth is opening... slowly.

  • As the divine tries to speak through you,

  • filling your mouth, perhaps,

  • gently, ever so slowly.

  • You are now awake.

  • Good.

  • Michael: When the ritual ended,

  • each of our participants had something very interesting to report.

  • He did definitely have an aura around him--

  • the Father.

  • Woman: I could feel just

  • this everlasting joy and peace of God just covering me.

  • There was like a glowing figure, man,

  • and then the cross was like right in front of me.

  • We've got medical science

  • and we've got ancient religious symbols.

  • And what we're specifically looking at

  • is how the accessories play into your expectations.

  • I liked the visual part. I didn't like the audio part.

  • - Interesting. - I wasn't connecting with it.

  • Woman 2: I've always thought that the kind of traditional,

  • ritualistic parts of church, they just never appealed to me.

  • I think it was more the symbols that was more comforting,

  • because that's just the way I was raised.

  • Michael: One of the most intriguing was our final subject, Miriam.

  • What was it like for you?

  • Um, I went to another place.

  • OK, OK.

  • I immediately felt my mother's-- her spirit with me,

  • she was telling me...

  • - ...to come towards her. - OK.

  • And when I got close to her, she was comforting me.

  • - OK. - Um, and I heard an angel say,

  • "I'm here with you. I will never leave you."

  • And I continued to see wings.

  • - Wings. Interesting. - Yes.

  • Michael: Miriam's experience seemed to have

  • a profound effect on her,

  • but I wanted to hear more about what exactly happened to her.

  • When you say that you saw things,

  • describe for me what that was.

  • Was it like a daydream, or was it more like, um, really there?

  • It was extremely vivid.

  • Um, I could feel the wind when it started going across,

  • I could vividly see my mother standing there, smiling at me.

  • - She looked beautiful. - Wow.

  • Michael: The fact that Miriam had an out-of-body experience

  • and saw her deceased mother, was almost puzzling,

  • because everything we did in the room was a lie.

  • The priest was not real,

  • the ritual was not a thousand years old,

  • the nurse was an actress, but yet Miriam's experience

  • and those of the other participants were real.

  • The thing that surprised me the most today

  • was how personal every single moment was.

  • I think because of a combination of the powerful imagery,

  • both religious and scientific,

  • it becomes the most powerful experience they've had.

  • Even if you're a very staunch atheist,

  • a cross and a lectionary,

  • these things, they're pregnant with meaning.

  • We seem to have found that by using those cues,

  • people were able to tune in very, very deeply,

  • and to relinquish their sense of self-control.

  • Here's a question.

  • What's the difference between what we did today

  • and what an actual priest can do?

  • That's a really controversial question.

  • Um, I think the difference is that, unlike the priest,

  • we understand the mechanisms through a more psychological route,

  • whereas many priests may themselves be convinced

  • that they are facilitating communication with the divine.

  • And perhaps they are.

  • The results can be the same,

  • regardless of the intentions of the facilitators.

  • There's no way to prove whether or not

  • God worked in this room today.

  • I guess ultimately, with the tools of science, no, there isn't.

  • These are still some really difficult philosophical questions.

  • Michael: So, we have demonstrated that

  • our brains are belief-making machines.

  • Rather than accepting confusion and uncertainty,

  • we create superstitions and beliefs

  • that make us feel like we have control over our lives.

  • In fact, to not form a superstition

  • or belief or guess about the world around us

  • is to be powerless,

  • even when superstitions are unconnected to reality.

  • That doesn't mean they can't be powerful.

  • Our "reverse exorcism" ritual

  • and its practitioners were all placebos.

  • But the mere existence of our subjects' beliefs in them

  • made them real and transformative.

  • So does that make us all fools?

  • I don't know-- but I don't believe so.

  • And as always...

  • thanks for watching.

Hey, Mind Field! Vanessa here.

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行為與信仰 (Behavior and Belief)

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    林宜悉 發佈於 2021 年 01 月 14 日
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