and welcome back to another episode of the ex-Google,

歡迎回到新的一集

ex-Facebook TechLead.

「前Google、前Facebook工程師 －TechLead」系列

We are in New York today.

我們今天在紐約

And I wanted to talk today about some of my learnings in getting fired from Facebook,

然後我今天想要談一談我被Facebook辭退後所學到的一些東西

kind of follow up on my last video and

跟我上一個影片有點關聯

first of all, also, I want to thank everybody for all of your kind words,

首先，我也想要謝謝大家的安慰

you know, I have never been fired in my life before and

你知道，我人生中從來沒有被開除過

I've seen people get fired, throughout my career,

在我的職涯裡，我有看過他人被開除

I've seen people just disappear.

我有看過人們就那樣消失了

And I never quite thought that that would happen to me.

而我從來沒想過那會發生在我身上

So I wanted to kind of explain that if this does ever happen to you,

所以我想要說明一下，如果這樣的事情發生在你身上

and it may,

因為是有可能的

what some of my learnings were and

分享我所學到的是什麼

my takeaways from that.

還有一些重點

You know, first of all, I think that getting fired is more of a mental state.

首先，我覺得被開除其實造成更多心理層面的影響

It is a disgrace,

它是恥辱

it is shameful.

是很丟臉的

In reality, it may not actually be that bad, right?

事實上，可能不會那麼糟，對嗎？

It's kind of like in the military, the difference between just leaving it

就好像在軍隊裡，差別只是你是自己離開

and a dishonorable discharge.

還是被開除軍籍

It's all the same in the end, really,

最終它們都一樣，真的

like the result's about the same.

像是結果都差不多

I could have easily just as well left the company

我本來可以很簡單的

of my own voluntary accord, and

ˋ自願離職

the result would pretty much be the same.

那樣的結果會差不多

It's just that when you get fired,

只是當你是被開除的時候

there's a lot of mental shame and guilt,

你心裡所感受到的羞恥跟罪惡感會大得多

the way your former coworkers may treat you,

你前同事可能會對待你的方式

the way you leave -

你所離開的方式

you don't get to say goodbye to anybody,

你沒有辦法跟任何人道別

you just vanish.

你就只是消失了

That part may kind of be disturbing.

那個部分可能會有點擾人

So why am I talking about this?

那為什麼我要講這個呢？

Because I want to bring some light to this topic,

因為我想要讓這個主題見點光

something we don't talk about much in the tech industry,

這是我們在科技產業不太常講的事

but it happens all the time.

但它一直在發生

You constantly see people disappearing around you.

你持續看到身邊的人消失

And, you know, it could be for a variety of reasons -

然後，嗯、可能有各式各樣的原因

it could just be low performance,

可能是因為績效差

it could be for the stupidest smallest reasons like

可能會是因為一些愚蠢的小事

running a YouTube show, in my case.

像是我的例子一樣－因為我有一個YouTube節目

And also, I'm just trying to monetize my getting fired.

而且，我只是試著從開除這件事上賺錢

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嗨大家，我知道你們很喜歡這部影片

but I just wanted to mention quickly here that this video is brought to you by our friendly sponsor, SkillShare.

但我想要很快地告訴大家，這部影片是由我們友善的贊助商SkillShare所支持製作的

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SkillShare是有著數千堂跟創意、創業家能力相關課程的線上學習社群

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探討網頁開發、創業精神、行銷、生產力等等主題

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因為SkillShare贊助了這部影片

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所以我為你們爭取到使用SkillShare的2個月試用期

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去了解他們吧！連結在下面的敘述欄位裡

You know, it's funny that I always had this fantasy.

你知道，我一直有個可笑的幻想

And maybe many of you do, too, that

或許你們很多人也有的那種

if you were to ever get fired,

就是如果哪天你被開除的時候

all of your coworkers, your friends would just rally around you

你所有的同事跟朋友都會集結在你身旁

and support you and say that

支持著你並告訴你

if you're being terminated,

如果你要被辭退了

then they're going to quit too voluntarily.

那他們也會自願離職

It just doesn't happen like that.

但那樣的事並不會發生

And you like to think that you've got their backs

而你覺得你很挺他們

and they've got your back

他們也很挺你

and you're all in this together -

你們是團結在一起的

it just doesn't quite work like that.

但事情是不會這樣發展的

Everybody is, in reality, just scrambling to save their own jobs.

每個人在現實中，只會拼命地確保有工作

And the truth is that people value their own jobs over their humanity.

事實證明人們比起人性來說，更重視他們的工作

And that's why firing works.

這就是為什麼開除這件事情存在

That's why people can just rip relationships and friendships apart at workplaces.

這就是為什麼人們可以在職場上將關係與友誼分開

And nobody says a thing about it.

而沒有人對質疑這件事

Nobody questions that.

沒有人對這點有疑問

It's sad, really, right.

這點很令人感到難過，對吧

You know, your coworkers who maybe you saw everyday,

你可能每天都會看到的同事

you had morning conversations with your manager,

早上一起交流對話的主管

who always said that they were supporting you,

都會說他們一直支持你

that they seemed to care about you,

他們看起來真的很在乎你

was all fake,

這些都是假的

was just a pretend show for these people to keep their jobs and maintain their appearances.

只是讓這些人保有他們的工作，並維持表象的一場戲

And you know, who knows,

然而誰知道呢

but my general recommendation has always been to disengage from your coworkers.

我一直以來的建議是，不要跟你的同事有太深的接觸

It's a place of exchange of your time for money,

這是一個用你的時間換取金錢的地方

it can be as simple as that and

可以就那麼簡單

if you were to look for anything deeper than that,

如果你尋求再更深一層的東西

then just be aware that it could be built on a pretty weak foundation there.

那就要意識到它可能是建築在一個很薄弱的基礎上

Nothing wrong with having some light conversations,

有輕鬆的小交流並沒有錯

but to believe that these people would be your family

但要相信這些人會變成像家人一般的存在

and that they've got your back?

還要那麼挺你嗎？

I remember I was once working in a company with my brother,

我記得有一次我跟我的兄弟在同一家公司工作

and we didn't like the environment.

而我們不是很喜歡那個環境

So when I quit, he quit at the same time.

所以當我辭職的時候，他也同樣跟進

That's family, that's people who have your back.

那才是家人，會挺你到最後的人

Now another tip is data management.

然後另一個訣竅是數據管理

If you feel that you may be losing your job soon,

如果你覺得你可能快要失去你的工作了

maybe you're getting picked on that performance improvement plan,

可能你開始在推進績效進步的計畫上被刁難

then you want to be careful about your data.

那你可能就要多留心你的數據了

Make sure that you've downloaded your personal data,

確保你已經下載所有個人數據

that you have backups of that,

你可能已經有了備份資料

and that if you do happen to get called into HR,

而如果你真的被人資找去

before you go to that meeting,

在去那個會議之前

just make a quick backup of all of your data and information.

趕快快速備份你所有的數據和資訊

Because they can take away your laptop at any moment,

因為他們能夠隨時拿走你的筆電

like they did for me and

像他們對我做的那樣

to this day, I still have not gotten back any of the photos that I have left on my work laptop.

而直到今天，我還是沒有拿回我留在工作用電腦上的任何一張照片

You know all of that property is company property so

你知道那些都是公司財產

having a clear separation of your personal stuff and your work stuff would be great advice.

所以清楚區分你的私人東西和工作用的東西，是一個很好的建議

Health insurance is actually another good one to start thinking about.

健康保險也是一個可以開始考量的事情

When I got terminated, I had a few days left to use up my health insurance.

當我被辭退時，我還剩下幾天能夠利用我的健康保健

So I went ahead and did all of my medical exams and got glasses made,

所以我就去把所有的健康檢查都做了，還配了眼鏡

I actually decided to continue my health insurance on Cobra,

我其實決定要繼續在Cobra上的健康保險

which is $700 to $800 per month. Pretty expensive.

每個月大概要$700-$800美金，還蠻貴的

I wasn't originally going to do that but you know, I just thought

我其實本來沒有想要那樣做，但是我想說

Fine, I'll do it.

好吧，我就決定這樣做了

And I think what this overall does is

而我認為這整體來說

it helps bring some perspective into your life.

在人生中帶來了一些觀念

Don't depend on your paycheck,

不要依賴薪水

the social status,

社會地位

or the workplace friendships you may have had there.

或是你在職場上可能擁有的友誼

Because depending on these things will just make your getting fired all the more terrible for you.

如果依賴那些東西，只會讓你被開除這件事對你來說更悲慘而已

You know, for me, it's not like I was living some upscale life spending 90% of my paycheck every single month,

你知道我並沒有過著花掉我每個月90％薪水的高檔人生

having a bunch of friends and parties with my coworkers because

或是跟交一大群同事朋友、開派對

if I were doing that, it would be pretty bad if I were to suddenly lose all of that.

因為如果我那樣做了，當我突然失去了所有那些東西，就會非常慘

My entire lifestyle would change in that scenario.

我整個生活方式在那個情境下就會被改變

For me, losing a job has almost no impact on my actual day to day life.

對我來說，失去一份工作幾乎對我日常生活沒有任何的影響

Even the social stigma that you may normally feel is not quite there.

甚至都感受不太到一般會出現的社會污名

It's not like I suddenly need to downgrade my lifestyle.

因為我不會突然降低生活品質

It's not like I have to justify what happened to a bunch of people

或是要向一大群人解釋到底發生什麼事

who may be looking down on me.

何況可能還是一群可能會看低我的人

And you know, it's funny, right?

而你知道，這真的很令人玩味

Maybe you thought that you were all on the same team.

或許你覺得你們一直同在一艘船上

One team, one company, one dream.

一個團隊、一個公司、一個夢想

Maybe you actually believed in the company mission,

你可能真的相信公司的使命

shared that dream,

共享那個夢想

put in those all nighters,

熬了超多夜

gave up some of your personal life, your family life...

放棄你的私人生活、家庭生活...

Maybe you sacrificed your own health,

或許你犧牲了自己的健康

didn't go to the gym,

沒有去健身房

let yourself get fat.

還讓你自己變胖

So at times like this, it's good to just remind yourself -

所以在這種時候，要提醒自己

a job is that exchange of your time for money. Nothing more.

工作只是用你的時間換取金錢而已，沒有其他的了

Don't give anything more than that.

不要給予超出這以上的東西

I know a lot of people actually who have been laid off.

我知道有很多被辭退的人

Maybe they get fired, maybe they voluntarily quit.

可能是被開除了，或是他們自願離職

And you want to make sure that whatever you have left at the end of the day

而你想要確保最終你所留下的東西

is still something worthwhile that was a fair trade.

是值得的，算是一場公平的交易

I think getting fired was sort of a social stigma that came up from the old days

我想被開除會被社會污名化，是因為在以前的年代

when people used to hold on to their jobs for 10, 20, 30 years.

人們都常會做一份工作長達10、20、30幾年

But these days in the tech industry, people are moving jobs like every two to three years anyway.

但在現今的科技產業，人們本來就兩到三年就換工作

And that's largely because you still have your skills, that experience.

而最主要是因為你還有技能跟經驗

And so thanks to everybody from the last video who reminded me that

所以很感謝在上部影片提醒我的大家

it's true, I have not hit rock bottom.

沒錯，我並沒有跌落谷底

I still have all of my skills.

我仍然有我全部的技能

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嗯嗯，沒錯

I mean, that's great and all

我覺得那些都很棒

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你可以探索像是自由接案者、創業家精神、網頁開發、平面設計、介面、創意寫作和生產力等等的課程

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他會深度指導你如何變成一個JavaScript專家

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Okay, so it seems like I didn't make it to 10 minutes so let's do some quick Q&A just to fill up the time,

好，看起來我沒有拍到10分鐘，所以我們來進行一些問答來填滿時間吧

and I will show you some scenes of New York City while I'm here.

我還會分享一些紐約的影像

So someone asks if I was actually fired because of the prior video about women in the workplace?

有人問，我是否因為之前談論到職場女性的影片，所以才被開除的

No, I was not.

不，並不是

I knew actually, that video was probably a little bit risky and

我其實知道那部影片可能有點冒險

even though I had that concept in mind, I did not release it until after I was terminated.

雖然我是這樣想啦，我直到被開除之後才發佈它

So I felt safe to just go ahead and push that one out.

所以我覺得直接放出來也沒什麼關係

Some people actually wonder if this is related to the tech interview pro course that I run,

有些人還想說是不是跟我教的科技面試課程有關

which by the way, check it out if you're interested in landing a job at

剛好如果你有興趣要在

Facebook, Google, any of these top tier tech companies.

Facebook、Google這些高端科技公司工作的話

I will help fast track your career,

我會幫你快速檢視你的職涯

level that playing field for you such that you have as much information as anybody else

為你公平賽局，讓你跟其他想要進去這些科技公司的人

trying to get a job in these tech companies.

有著同樣充沛的資訊

And I think that if you know the skills,

我想只要你懂這些技能

if you know your data structures and algorithms,

你了解資訊架構跟演算法

if you can answer those questions,

如果你能夠回答那些問題

and you know the behavior tips,

並知道一些行為上的秘訣

then you should be good.

那你應該沒問題

But that aside, HR actually asked me for a list of names of all the other tech YouTubers that I knew.

順便一提，人資其實有問我，其他我所認識的科技YouTuber名單

I did not give that up.

我並沒有給他

And that's a very scary thing.

因為那是件很恐怖的事

But thereafter, anybody who is currently running a YouTube show, blog, podcast.

但給任何有經營YouTube頻道、部落格、podcast的人，作為之後的參考

You know, it's just a classic case of HR being HR.

你知道這只是身為人資常做的一件案例

And let me mention a little something here -

讓我特別提出一件小事

I don't believe that being a YouTuber is anything special.

我不認為當YouTuber有什麼特別的

I believe it's the future, I believe that, you know, I'm just a normal person.

我相信這是未來趨勢，我相信我只是個普通的人

I'm just a normal software engineer.

我只是一個普通的軟體工程師

I don't consider myself a YouTuber.

我不覺得自己是一個YouTuber

I believe that in the future, in a few years,

我相信在未來幾年之內

everybody will have a YouTube presence.

大家都會在YouTube上出現

Right? It's just the direction of the digital space.

對吧？這就是數位空間的方向

Video is becoming more prevalent,

影片將會越來越普遍

just like how everybody may have a LinkedIn profile.

就像是每個人可能都會有LinkedIn檔案一樣

It wouldn't be weird, if everybody were to have a YouTube profile as well,

就算每個人都有YouTube檔案也不算奇怪吧

where they just upload their thoughts and ideas on whatever they're interested in.

他們只是會上傳跟自身感興趣事物有關的一些想法跟點子

Having a company like Facebook fault you on that, I believe,

像Facebook那樣的公司要因為這種事將你定罪

is just backwards and outdated thinking.

我認為是一種退步的、不合時宜的想法

Some people wonder if my salary was actually 500K? And yeah, it was -

有些人想問我的薪水是不是年薪500K美金？嗯，是的

it was even higher than that, actually.

其實還更高

You know, you take a look at the base salary 220K,

如果你看基本起薪220K

and then you add on all the other equity and bonuses,

然後加上其他那些股票跟獎金

and you get to that level or even higher.

你就會到達那個階層或更高

And I know that it sounds very high.

我知道這聽起來超遙不可及

But this is why I recommend that everybody try to get into famous companies,

但這就是為什麼我推薦大家嘗試進入有名的公司

because they can get your bills paid.

因為他們可以提供很好的薪水

The compensation in these top tier tech companies is just higher than what,

這些高端科技公司能夠給你的薪水

say, like a startup may pay you.

比起像是新創能夠給你的，可是高多了

Primarily I think, because they have that equity portion,

主要是因為他們有股票的比例

and also because they're Silicon Valley based where talent is very competitive, right,

也因為他們在人才濟濟的矽谷

you're not going to get this sort of income if you're in like the Midwest or something like that,

你不會在中西部那樣的地方獲得這樣的收入

which is why I recommend software engineers migrate to one of these tech hubs -

這也就是我建議軟體工程師移居到那些科技據點

Silicon Valley, New York, Seattle, any of these large cities,

矽谷、紐約、西雅圖，任何其中一個大城市

and then make it a long term goal to get into one of these top tier tech companies.

然後將進入高端科技公司視為一個長期的目標

It may not happen overnight, but you know,

它可能不是一夜之間的事情，但你知道

you can check out my program techinterviewpro.com

你可以在techinterviewpro.com上參考我的課程

Some people wonder if I was fired, actually, because my performance was no good.