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- [Interviewer] Do you think your life
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would be a good movie?
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- That's really up to others.
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I've had a lot of fun.
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I'm Mike McGowan, I'm a former FBI Special Agent.
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We had an opportunity as law enforcement
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to make an investigation against
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the world's most powerful drug organization
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in which we targeted the Sinaloa Cartel and Chapo Guzman.
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So taking almost up to a year to prepare this
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we finally set the first meeting
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to take place in Florida in early 2010.
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If you were to write a script from that day
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this is how it would look.
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The Sinaloa Cartel was responsible
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for hundreds of murders in Mexico
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and billions of dollars of narcotics
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being transferred throughout the world.
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And I remember clearly to this day
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that the hairs on the back of my neck stood up
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because to have an opportunity
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in 2009 to take a run at Guzman
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and the Sinaloa Cartel was unheard of.
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When we first began this investigation
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we had a cooperating witness who came to us
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and said, "I can give you the Sinaloa Cartel."
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He choose to cooperate with the FBI
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in order to have some of his property,
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which had been seized in his earlier cases
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returned to him and his family.
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Chapo Guzman wanted to set up a pipeline
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from Mexico into Europe to supply all of Europe.
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So we put a plan into effect in which
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he believed we would be drug traffickers
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out of Europe and specifically Italy.
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After the informant went into Mexico
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he was able to convince the Sinaloa Cartel
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that the United States would be
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okay to have meetings only.
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We wouldn't buy or sell drugs in the meetings,
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we would simply be businessmen
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getting together to have discussions in a neutral country.
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We intended to represent that we were
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a Sicilian crime organization from Italy
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and the intention was to use a very experienced
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undercover agent who spoke Sicilian.
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That agent unfortunately retired
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shortly before the investigation started,
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so at the last minute we had our Sicilian speaker
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not available.
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We looked around and decided eventually
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that I would represent the head
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of the organization from Sicily.
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That's a little bit difficult, I obviously
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don't speak Sicilian.
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I sometimes struggle with English,
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but working in concert with three Spanish speaking
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undercover agents we felt we could overcome
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the language barrier needed to target
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the Sinaloa Cartel.
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The meeting takes place in an ocean front condominium
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overlooking the Atlantic Ocean in Florida.
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You looked out for miles and miles, beautiful ocean.
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You take out wine, you take out food,
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you take out photographs.
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You turn on a soccer match.
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We spent a lot of time preparing the room.
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The room is also equipped with audio and video recording
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and each agent has a responsibility
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of knowing where the cameras are,
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where you want the subjects to sit.
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So it's pretty much scripted
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and we went through it carefully.
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So myself and the three other FBI undercover agents
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had specific and different roles in this case.
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The first gentleman that I worked with
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was a longtime friend of mine
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who is an expert in transportation.
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His job was to get contraband from point A
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to point B and he knew all shipping routes,
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transportation systems, etc.
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This gentleman had worked in South Florida
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for many, many years and had the
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South Florida look, clothing.
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He had the Tommy Bahamas
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and the right sunglasses, the right car.
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When you work around the country
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there are certain parts where every criminal looks the same
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and South Florida is one of those.
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We had a second gentleman who was named Antonio,
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he was responsible for our ports in foreign countries.
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We knew we were going to receive
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large amounts of cocaine so we had decided
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that we were going to use ports
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or shipping as opposed to airlines.
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So we had ports that we used literally all over the world
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outside of the United States that we have access to
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through foreign law enforcement cooperation.
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And then the third undercover was my underling Patricio,
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he spoke both Spanish and Italian.
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He was going to replace me.
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I was the old man.
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I was the head of the organization,
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soon to be retired, he was my right hand man,
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my most trusted associate.
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If anyone spoke to me privately
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it would be Patricio my number two,
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so again it's very important to set up this dynamic
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that they see a pecking order.
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They see a criminal organization
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that has a chain of command in it.
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And we have to convince a member
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of the Sinaloa Cartel we're criminals
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just like they are.
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They're very, very cognizant of who appears to be real
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and who does not, so we had to sell ourselves
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as a criminal organization and that's
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why we mirrored many of the same roles
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that the Sinaloa Cartel had.
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And representing the Sinaloa Cartel
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was a gentleman named Manuel Jesus Guzman,
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who was identified as a blood relative of Chapo Guzman.
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He would be Chapo's spokesmen during these negotiations.
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Manuel Guzman entered the United States,
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we sent the informant to pick him up
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at the Miami International Airport
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and deliver him to our ocean front condominium
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for negotiations.
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So as we're waiting for the meeting to happen
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as I said, I was dressed appropriately
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as a crime boss and I noticed my friends
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and fellow agents were nervous as was I
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and it was typical and natural to be nervous.
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We had a lot expected of us and just prior
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to Manuel arriving at the condominium
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I went in to use the men's room
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and double check everything and I looked behind the door
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and I found a gaudy purple velour bathrobe
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that for some reason I thought would fit the scene better.
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So without telling the other agents
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I got out of my $5000 suit
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and I put on this hideous velour bathrobe.
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I walked out into the room and the place cracked up,
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everybody went nuts laughing it really broke the ice,
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everybody calmed down and at first
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I was gonna go back and change
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and then I said, "He would never suspect
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"this is the FBI."
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So I kept on the purple velour bathrobe
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for the remainder of the meeting.
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You have to understand when you're an undercover agent
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you have to do things that the bad guys
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don't expect FBI agents would do.
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Manuel arrives, he was dressed in a business suit
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as if it was a important business meeting.
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So Manuel enters the room in the company
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of the informant, he's now meeting the three undercovers.
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I'm out on the deck sunning myself
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in my purple bathrobe and after five or 10 minutes
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I don't see him coming out where he was supposed
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to be introduced to me.
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So I went inside and low and behold
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we found out that Manuel has a fear of heights,
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which we didn't know.
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So here we are 30 stories up on the ocean
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and he's hunkered down in a corner
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of the building and he won't come anywhere near
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the camera range.
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It took awhile, but we were able to calm him down
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at least enough to come out and sit on the couch
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and begin negotiations with us.
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I make a point of introducing myself
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and then walking immediately away from him
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because I don't want to talk to him at that point.
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You have to understand we set up relationships,
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so if I was the old man or I was the El Jefe, the boss,
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I wouldn't negotiate with Manuel.
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I'd only negotiate with Chapo.
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And I stayed out on the porch,
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I ignored him for the first couple of hours.
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So the other three undercovers
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have the responsibility for making him comfortable.
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I also had a very attractive female FBI agent with me
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who was my date for the meeting
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and so I'm literally getting a suntan
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and putting lotion on, having a drink,
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relaxing with my lady friend and try to make it
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as natural as possible.
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Patricio my number two would come out,
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whisper in my ear and I would whisper something back
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and send the message in.
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From where I was outside I could see in
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and I could see the transformation
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in his uneasiness roll away.
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At one point he started slapping the hand
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of one of the undercovers like they were old buddies.
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I could tell by the body language
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that things were going well.
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When you negotiate a massive drug deal it takes hours,
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it's a very long negotiation and I waited
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'till it was going well until I came in
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and when I did come in as we had all agreed
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I was never gonna speak directly to Manuel,
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so I would just sit there and listen,
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get up go get something to eat.
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I wasn't being rude to him,
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but I wasn't waiting on every word
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that's what my underlings are there for.
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He offered to send an initial shipment
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of 5000 kilos, which if you know anything about cocaine
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that's a lot of cocaine.
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And we said, "No."
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It's the first deal no one's doing 5000 kilos.
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So here you have cops turning down
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the Sinaloa Cartel.
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A lot of cops would say, "Yeah, give me all five.",
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that's not how drug negotiations go.
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We had to lower the quantities we were interested in.
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We wanted to set up a system that would last for years
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and years, not just one deal.
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It's like any business deal, initial meeting
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the groups hit it off, they're throwing some numbers
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back and forth and now they're gonna go
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and regroup and have more discussions.
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He didn't even want to leave.
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He was having such a good time, seriously.
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2011, we began to exchange what's called test loads
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with the Sinaloa Cartel.
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They would send vessels from Mexico
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to Europe, no drugs would be on those vessels.
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There were plantains, pineapples,
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everything under the sun except cocaine,
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but you have to do that if you're a real drug trafficker
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that's how it works.
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So we had to be patient and pay for this.
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After almost three years of investigation
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in July of 2012 the Sinaloa Cartel
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shipped us approximately 700 pounds,
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I believe it's 346 kilograms of cocaine,
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which in conjunction with the Spanish National Police
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the FBI seized in Al Jazeera, Spain.
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As a result of those arrests and subsequent investigation
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we were able to charge in the United States
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Chapo and eight of his executive board members
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with drug trafficking.
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Even though Chapo was in Mexico
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we couldn't get our hands on him
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at that point he was indicted in our case,
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which was later one of a number of cases
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that lead to Guzman's eventual extradition
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into the United States.