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Now use your host, Ryan Hello and welcome tiles cast.

Today I'm speaking with a bid and Isles candidates from Lahore, Pakistan.

A bid has scored an overall band of 7.5, but he took the general aisles and he's here today and he's gonna share a little bit about his experience and how he approached preparing for the examination.

Hyah!

Bid.

Welcome, tiles cast.

And I am.

I mean, we were talking earlier, and you said that you took the exam for two purposes.

One was for immigration.

The second was just to kind of check your your English level.

In general, you scored an overall band of 7.5, which is an amazing mark.

Was that the mark that you were expecting?

That you would get?

Well, I was surprised with North the overall Bamberg.

I was surprised, like with my performance in my speaking part of the guests.

I was expecting more than that.

So, like, it was more of a very, very even one thing Like I was I wasn't expecting seven provide, but I was expecting, like, something like seven overall bank.

So this was my department.

So this was a paper for so But I got 6.5 and speaking.

That was kind of, you know, set back in yourself, so All right, well, that kind of any such suspect reserved for me.

OK, great.

And was this the first time that you took the exam?

Yeah.

This is the very first time I don't Exactly.

So what was the timeframe between when you decided you were gonna take the else and when you actually went and engage the examination, I took, like, three weeks to train myself for exam on.

I joined one institution here in Lahar to just, you know, experience the environment, like for listening.

You need to get into that environment where you have that you know, Hall, and you have some systems so that you can just, you know, just make sure like this is gonna be the real informant in which you're gonna be here for your actual exam.

Saw that helped me, like, in just off getting used to with the with DVD sound system and then the recording yourself So home.

And it was like some brightness on daily basis, Like for for the 1st 3 days of the Regan off in three weeks.

I gotta just started repaired exam, like, you know, a month time.

So Okay, this was a course a three week course it was Yeah, it was kind of very kind of very interactive.

Course I wasn't, You know, your ft for men.

Like I didn't read anything from day from the from the Internet or from the ice website yourself.

So I went to the institution and they just in oil.

We'll explain maybe former to just spend many sections in individual more duel of the I saw that was just, you know, get some understanding before going into the exam.

So there was just three weeks interactive course, and that was it.

I see.

Okay, so then it sounds as though you were doing lots of practice examinations under exam like conditions during this course.

Yeah, this is true.

And this is what Help me like you.

Really?

Um, you know, really performed relevant and the within the excellent Sands.

And so if you were to estimate how many practice exams do you think you did, like respected listening?

Only it could be like anything between 15 toe 20 Rebecca specials.

Okay, Okay.

Terrific.

If we talk about listening in particular, you were able to score a band of 7.5.

So what were some of the study strategies that you followed in preparation for the exam like a Z?

I said during the during the preparation itself, like itwas Maur to concentrate on different accents, different quality off recording, so sometimes they played very We're recording so so that we we can just, you know, concentrate more than just tryingto understand workers going on.

And sometimes the recordings were very easy.

So so practicing with those, you know, very, very different, kind off recordings.

Help me to, you know, to get an idea like ho holdings can be, you know, can be can be no different off with that.

Things can come in your way in a different result.

That that was You know the idea, Joe.

Just, you know, the practice.

But that listening part of the example.

Okay.

Okay.

So it sounds as though you did a lot of training for for accents.

Now, when you started doing the practice exams in the first week of those three weeks, um, was the mark lower than 7.5?

It was always more than six and five are seven.

So we like the strategy was like we we gave, we used to, you know, give our Rabin dust, like, for all those scales.

And they even where every student, they just issue a bad.

And then then and we're gonna get an idea like home and Bernie's when I scored in the actual exam saw because all of this around salmon 6.57 they were strict in there, you know, assessment with respect to speaking and some other writing skills.

So that string, you know, don't get carried away for the actual example, just, you know, whatever they expected to get better than that.

So Okay, Okay, Now let's talk about then you get into the examination, so tell us a bit about the strategies that you've followed for the listening section listening sexual like it was, You know, whenever there any section ends like I was, you know, just giving, scanning through some of the questions I heard off me like the next section.

So just trying to get a some idealized worst gonna happen to the very next month or so I just I really feel, you know, next year shows and then try to concentrate on the recording yourself.

Then the way the recording came, until you just try to, you know, find those Once you've achieved a neutrino track on your on your sheet, So So it was just kind of, you know, considering very hard on the on the recording yourself and then just quickly noting down and writing on those points on your own.

You're on your on your shared.

Okay?

And do you recall what accents you heard in the exam?

It was multiple accidents.

Like, I'm not sure what I really heard in the exam itself.

But when I was practicing like we practiced with very different excess, like different recordings, even the quality of recordings are already for like, sometimes they player, As I said earlier, like sometimes player off very, very recordings, just purposefully so So that you distressed that, you know, sometimes tradition going on so that they can, you know, perform well in the examination.

There's Okay.

Great.

Okay.

Um so I've been before we move on to the reading section.

Is there anything else that you'd like to share about listening?

I would say, like, uh, an all the time during the listening exam way.

A za a candidate as a strange you.

We need to you know, I personally get cussed untreated.

Ready?

I did concentrate very hard on the on the actual recording.

So as the moment you lose your concentration, you're not gonna be able to catch it.

So concentration was the main, um, part in the listening Morty lighting.

Okay.

Okay, great.

Now let's move on to the reading section again.

You scored a band 7.5.

I'm assuming that you sort of pulled the same progression as you did with the with the listing where you had this three recourse.

You're doing practice tests under exam like conditions.

So what was the progression during the three weeks?

Were you making improvements with your mark As time went on?

Yeah, Reading was kind of, uh, a very great tricky penguin.

I was practicing, like sometimes I got the, you know, school.

Very, you know, very suspect people.

Sometimes it was bad.

So I was just trying to, you know, I was just trying to get used to it, deform it so that I can, you know, just going the same line that I need to do in the time.

So any during the during the coaching herself, it wasn't, you know, a stable thing.

Like it was always fluctuating sometimes.

Like I got some from five.

Sometimes ago.

Even Piper fight saw.

But I just, uh, kept few things in mind.

There are a few strategies going around so few tapes on, um, for most part, like it was just just making sure, Like, I understand what I need to do on the exam there, so just understood.

Deform it well, and then, are you familiar with the entry that I did before with a person named Vid it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Now, what's interesting?

Yeah, I put together a video and put that on YouTube.

Of the of the conversation I had with Vivid and so did its approach.

The examination, as you know, is a little bit different.

So he'd read one question, find the answer, read the second question and the answer of the third question, find the answer.

And then, you know, I put this video on YouTube and then people were commenting on that video and saying that they didn't follow the same strategy that did it did.

But they were still able to score Well, So what sort of strategy did did you follow when you were in the reading?

Where you were you reading parts of the text first and then going to the questions?

Or were you skimming the questions first?

Then going to the text will be honest I just wanted the same strategy, which wouldn't, uh uh, you know, shared with us all.

Um, I always used to read questions fun and then find the answer, but I wasn't aware of that.

You know, tape like the The answer is gonna be in a sequined chili like you're never gonna find announcer question before personal one saw.

Yes, I did follow the same started in which Rader said, but, um but, um, sometimes, like, when I was when I was, you know, just training within that insecure.

So that time I just tried different things on.

Sometimes you are usedto create the passage first and then find the deputy questions and find those answers by going back and forth.

Then on the actual exam day.

What tenderness.

Like Sam, we're winners there, like I just read because since part and then I came back to the passenger will just find those on sums.

And, um so when you read through and you're playing the answers, so what's your style and you doing lots of underlining of text, you know, inside of the passage itself, Or are you writing notes in the margin to remind yourself about where information is, um I were sent.

No, I didn't mark anything I didn't put any short on.

So's anything like it was just, you know, trusting your, you know, just ability to move back and forth and just trusting your, you know, memories so that you can memorize a few things very 43 for short period of time.

And then just it wasn't anything like I just didn't make any north any.

You know, I just I just I just did it on the only fly.

I didn't make any notes.

So let's move on to the writing section.

You were reading the general, so you you had to write a letter and you had to write an essay.

So if we were to first maybe talk about the letter, what were some of the The approach is that you took their well during my practicing, Pierre, like we were told, You know, make sure we are right over first.

Also of whatever the second dollars within the given, you don't limit upwards.

So first, we we were training away like will you?

I used to write a letter or say whatever it is within the game within the given you know, words, lemon.

That was my first thing.

And secondly, like it was kind of, you know, uh, sometimes, like, if we don't go aboard the essay herself like we get sometimes an organ mental, Davis's liketo right with the nice exam.

So just you know, Bella D'You know your you build up your your your whole on down in a way, like first, you introduce your viewpoint and you'll start coordinating on one side.

You choose one side on, then at the very in your computer and you d commence.

You added within the body of USA just for those that canopy.

And so it was kind of, you know, staying on us on the one side rather than, you know, coming, going here and there and just covering the bold prospects, like from for argumentative lessons like you need to stick to one side.

And you need to prove that this decide which you chose like is the is the one eyes proven by your by your country in which you do it at the end of your essence.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

You know, it's funny because sometimes I think candidates, they get a little bit confused, and they think they have to support both sides.

But that's not the case at all.

You can disprove the opposite side as part of your evidence to prove that the argument that you're making, But when you start to to provide too much concession, it's it's not gonna work to your favorite.

So you're right, Yeah.

I mean, it's it's It's good to just focus on the on the argument that you've made and stick to just proving that argument and providing evidence that does that.

It sounds as though you obviously had a Do you agree or disagree?

Sort of question.

Yeah, this is this is what the question do you remember?

Well, I don't remember exactly, but it was like, uh, woman's role in society or something like that.

I don't remember exactly.

But what My what I did is like yet I chose one side.

I stick to that.

I start with that and then we're like what I did when I when I started writing my essay, I wasn't going in the right direction.

So luckily I was using a lead pencil, which and then I work.