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  • measures like this have not been seen in peace time.

  • Boris Johnson admitted that he is now asking, though not ordering, the nation to take difficult steps to combat the various.

  • But he said the country has reached the critical moment when, without drastic action, the number of cases would double every five days.

  • From the end of this week, elderly and vulnerable people should be shielded from contact with others for 12 weeks.

  • Everyone should stop all non essential contact and travel and keep your distance from others.

  • That means working from home where possible and no visits to pubs, clubs, restaurants or theaters.

  • How cells where someone has symptoms of the virus should isolate themselves.

  • For two weeks, our political editor, Gary Given, has more.

  • Many people were locking themselves down before the government changed its advice.

  • Commuters thin on the ground Waterloo Station at eight this morning.

  • The prime minister, only days after signaling the time, was not right to copy other countries and move to a lock Down said that was what he was now urging on all age groups, those not at most risk on those in greatest danger in a few days time by this coming weekend, it will be necessary to go further and to ensure that those with the most serious health conditions are largely shielded from contact from social contact for around 12 weeks.

  • And even if you're under 70 suffering mild symptoms like a persistent cough or high temperature, the advice has been ratcheted up.

  • If you anyone in your household has one of those two symptoms, then you should stay at home for 14 days.

  • That means that if possible, you should not go out even to buy food or essentials other than for exercise and in that case, at a safe distance from others.

  • But for all in the country, he said, even those with no symptoms, the way you live should change drastically.

  • Now is the time for everyone to stop non essential contact with others and to stop all unnecessary travel.

  • We need people to start working from home where they possibly can, and you should avoid pubs, clubs, theaters on dhe, other such social venues.

  • The advice only last week was that banning mass events would not much help control the spread of the disease.

  • Today that changed.

  • It remains true, as we said in the last few weeks that risks of transmission of the disease at mass gatherings.

  • Such a sporting events are registered delay, but obviously logically, we advise against unnecessary social contact of all kinds.

  • It's right that we should extend that advice to mass gatherings as well.

  • The government said London's infection rate was racing ahead of the rest of the country that had brought forward the date of a crackdown that might have come later, but one which is for now, strong advice, not a change in the law.

  • I think most people would would accept that we are a mature on grown up on a liberal democracy where people understand very clearly the advice that is being given to them.

  • Ministers arriving for a Cobra planning meeting earlier a Public Health England message to hospitals to Channel four news yesterday admitted testing for the virus here is restricted to those with the most serious symptoms.

  • In Geneva, the World Health Organization spelled out that approach was dangerous and rock you must test and isolate.

  • You can not fight a fire blindfolded and we cannot stop this pandemic if we don't know who is infected.

  • We have a simple message for all countries test test test.

  • We do intend to continue to scale up testing, but I think it's important to realize the scale off UK testing, which has bean substantial schools in the future, might be closed.

  • But the government said now was not the time for that or other tougher measures.

  • When you come to MME.

  • Or extreme measures like you curfews and so on and so forth, you're seeing some of other countries.

  • We're keeping all measures under review and particularly obviously people will be thinking about about school closures.

  • There is an argument about about school closures.

  • We think at the moment.

  • On balance, it's much better if we can keep schools open for for all sorts of reasons.

  • The Japanese prime minister talked with Boris Johnson and other G seven leaders by teleconference this afternoon.

  • The government insisted it was moving a bit closer to other countries actions because of numbers on the ground, not international or internal pressure at the early stages.

  • An outbreak.

  • The numbers are quite small, so actually the precision with which you can predict exactly where you are is low, and I said that I thought were brats.

  • Four weeks behind where it lead balls.

  • I think the new numbers suggest we may be more like three weeks in terms of that on.

  • That's really why we on importantly, it looks like we're on the sort of fast upswing or just about to get there on.

  • That's the reason to want to come in quite quickly with these measures.

  • Clearly what we're announcing today is a very substantial change in the way that we want people to live their lives on DDE.

  • I can't remember anything like it in in my lifetime.

  • I don't really been anything like it in in peace time on Dhe.

  • We have to accept that.

  • It's a very considerable psychological behavioral change that we're asking.

  • You were asking the public the nation to do, but I have absolutely no doubt that we can do it, a change in people's way of life that threatens countless livelihoods to preserve life itself.

  • Some of these measures, they said, could be with us, not just for weeks or months, but maybe even longer.

  • This is one hell of a jump, isn't it?

  • It's only a matter of days ago, really, that we were being told the main advice was to wash your hands.

  • And now this, which Boris Johnson admits is just about the biggest peacetime clamped down you could imagine repeatedly.

  • Boris Johnson said in that press conference that Britain was leading the world in responding to the virus, and I think on in research terms that there are pockets of work there which undoubtedly justified that description.

  • But the rest of the world or a big chunk of it has been watching Britain on will probably now think that Britain is playing catch up for us.

  • Johnson.

  • The scientists say that isn't what was happening here.

  • They were always gonna move when the numbers on the ground dictated they should.

  • On that, they say, is what has happened.

  • One thing that really strikes you as you look at the potential economic impact of all of this, is that it?

  • We haven't even had a week since the budget was meant to incorporate the risks of the New world we were moving into because of this virus, and you look at the challenges that business faces.

  • Boris Johnson said at one point in the House of Commons in that statement in Downing Street that nobody should be penalized for doing the right thing.

  • Well, if he really wants to make good, that more than the numbers that were announced in the budget probably won't stand.

  • And you have to go on awful lot further.

  • One other thing that became clear in that press conference, Boris Johnson talked about there being other reasons for keeping schools open.

  • People be scratching their heads about the bit about what those are, and it's quite clear that what they have in mind is what one of the top advisers called indirect deaths.

  • The fear that you will have people going away from the emergency service is to look after their Children at home in addition to those who were going because they're sick.

  • And that could lead to people who should otherwise be getting normal care, not getting the care they need.

  • Just another sign of the extraordinary new world we're entering.

  • Gary, Thanks for a march.

  • I'm joined now by Helen Wait Lee, whose Minister of State for social care at the Department of Health Helen, wait, We just tell me first, what is the point off stopping going to the pub If your kids are gonna bring back this disease from school.

  • Well, I think the overall approach that the country is taking that the government is taking today, as we have been taking the whole way since Corona virus broke is a science led approach.

  • So we're doing the best thing to protect lives.

  • We've been taking steps.

  • Ritual would have been already delaying the spread off the virus.

  • But we know that the numbers are going up, and that is why you've seen announcements, which are that taking us know quite a significant step further in the action we're taking on the witch is, apartments has said, will make a big impact on people's lives.

  • So one of the things that we're recommending is people should reduce their social interaction.

  • Avoid unnecessary total social interaction that includes, for instance, not going to the pup.

  • So what?

  • What is the point of that boat If then your kids bring it back from school because you're not closing the schools and it's circulating in the schools and months teachers.

  • So something we have been looking at all the way through again is that for every step you take, you need to make sure that you're aware of the unintended consequences.

  • So one thing, for instance, with schools is that if schools on the Children out there in school, there's a question for parents at work where their Children will be instead, and probably many perils.

  • We'll go to the grand parents to look off.

  • Their kids will actually know.

  • Ondas, we've included in the guidance today over seventies are often amongst the most vulnerable and more likely to be at risk of complications.

  • So you understand that if our idea if you're sitting at home with your kids sort of potentially infecting you, you might as well go to the pub.

  • I think that's let's just try on, B said.

  • Well organized on dhe.

  • People want really clear communications about water.

  • The best steps that they can take the the guidance has been stepping up over recent weeks and days, and let's be really, really clear about the steps were asking people to stake on.

  • We're asking people to take these steps not only for themselves, because for most people, in fact Corona vice people will have symptoms and then recover.

  • But we're asking people to take these steps, particularly to protect the more vulnerable in society.

  • No more likely to suffer complications.

  • Hence the 22 things that have been announced a day to do with isolation of the whole household.

  • It remember that household has symptoms on also limiting our social contact and you talk about stepping up the response.

  • So you asking people not to go to the pub, not go to restaurants, theaters, et cetera.

  • But in weeks to come, will you review making that a criminal sanction of people go out?

  • Well, I'm not going to speculate on what we will do in weeks to come.

  • Is that a possibility?

  • Is it a weapon in your armory?

  • What you've seen is a government taking step by step, the taking the decisions as to what is the right thing that we should do for the country to protect people, to keep people as safe to protect life.

  • So you're no rolling out criminal sanctions at some point down the road.

  • If you're not just actually I think the message is really important to get out is for everybody thinking about whether to follow the advice it is, Though you might not want Thio avoid a social contact, you might want to be out and about but remember that what were particularly trying to do and this is a national effort here.

  • We all need to work together to protect the most vulnerable in our society, to control the spread of the virus.

  • And that's happening hand in hand with increasing the capacity N HS to provide care for those who may need to be in hospital.

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  • Today said that just reiterated their message.

  • Test test test.

  • Now, Just four days ago, you said you were by and large just testing people who were ill in hospital.

  • Now you say that you are testing people in the community.

  • How are you doing that?

  • Well, the government has bean and is continued to ramp up the country's testing capacity.

  • So a couple of days ago, we were testing around 5000 people a day.

  • Today, we're testing over 6000 people a day on dhe.

  • We expect those numbers to keep on going up.

  • A huge effort is being made there.

  • We're having to prioritize testing those, for instance, or in hospital being admitted to hospital, also making sure that we can offer testing to those in care homes.

  • But we want to be able to expect to be able to spread testing more widely as the numbers keep going up.

  • How you currently testing in the community?

  • So you're probably referring to specific sampling that's done by Public Health England to make sure that we have a clear picture of the spread off the the virus.

  • But but I'm not just referring to what was said in the press conference.

  • You know, the prime minister and his two advisors there said that testing was happening in the community.

  • I just wondered how that was being done.

  • Well, as I've said to the the figures I've just given to you are the ones that we have for the number of people who are being tested.

  • At the moment, we're particularly prioritizing people in health care settings, and there's also some testing that is done.

  • Thio sample where the particular virus hot spots but critically the way are determined as ransom volumes of testing continue because we know that that is an important part of our armory off controlling the disease, protecting as many people as possible on saving people's lives.

  • Helen Wait Lee, thank you very much when our health and such a care.

  • Corresponded Victoria Godell has Bean at the briefing in Downing Street, Victoria, what did you make of today's events?

  • Well, it's funny, isn't it?

  • When you're a journalist, sometimes you think this is something that's happening to other people.

  • And today it really hit home that this is something that is happening to all of us and will impact many off us.

  • And this is an announcement that was to say to the public, This is not just about you.

  • This is about the people around you and particularly the vulnerable people around you, but also about protecting the health service.

  • And that's been their mantra all the way through, as we need to lower this peak so that the N hs can cope.

  • These did feel draconian.

  • Now they were saying, We're not gonna make you not go to the park board to theatre.

  • But tonight we've just had the the theatre society saying the Science Society of London Theater and UK Theater saying that they're going to close theaters across the UK from tonight.

  • No school closures.

  • They're putting that down.

  • The line is Kathy was just asking just then because they still don't think that that is the right thing to do.

  • Now that what's the evidence they based these decisions on?

  • Oh, John, would you like to read it?

  • It's quite hefty, but this is Imperial College covered.

  • 19 Response team.

  • They've just published their mathematical modeling.

  • They say that this extension of the social distancing to cover the whole population, not over seventies will dramatically reduce the number of deaths.

  • They said the old model just was too much of a burden.

  • Now everybody's talking about ventilators.

  • The government says they're ordering Maur.

  • How immediate is the need?

  • We'll just let me go back to this sort of, just to go back to this modeling, Let let's hear from one of the imperial team who will tell us why they've made these decisions, which relates to the ventilators.

  • We estimate that in doing so, our best scenario would only reduce the deaths by 1/2.

  • On that, unfortunately, would leave with us within an unacceptably large number of deaths in the order of 250,000.

  • So the strategy now is to try to further reduce transmission, much like the situation in China to as low levels as possible.

  • On that does mean much more drastic changes in our day to day behavior.

  • Ultimately, we think that will save many, many lives in the orders of magnitude lower.

  • It will also importantly, keep us within the healthcare capacity.

  • So, ventilators, I mean, how cute is that?

  • Well, you heard her talking about these pressures on the health service.

  • We have been told that there are 5000.

  • But Matt Hancock today reiterated what they're trying to do for ventilators.

  • So we are increasing the number off ventilators.

  • We've been buying ventilators for several weeks now, but we also need to manufacture more.

  • And as we've discussed in the house, there is no limit to our appetite to buy ventilators on this should be no limit to the capacity to the appetite of industry to make them.

  • Because around the world, everybody is trying to increase their ventilator capacity.

  • Okay, there's been a lot of emphasis on ventilators, and it is clear we need many more.

  • But what he was not saying there, which is critical, is that ventilators need staff and beds.

  • And there are a lot of problems now about whether there are enough star for these intensive care beds that that will be requires.

  • And there is some mawr in some of this modeling again, there is a suggestion that 30% of people might need to go and hospital in the number of people who will need that ventilation and the number of people who will die.

  • So it's all about how you have the whole system working, not just the ventilators tournament.

  • Um, thank you.

  • There's been another day of markets plunging across the globe of central banks.

  • Battle to deal with the fallout from the pandemic.

  • Major airlines of cancelled flights and a laying off thousands of staff for Magnum are our business and global trade correspondent is in central London for us.

  • Fall.

  • Yes, this is really the day that many have bean waiting for.

  • You can't have stock market falls, what we've had.

  • You can't have flights grounded like we've seen without eventually dipping job losses.

  • And today they came in.

  • We've kept before we came on Air Manchester Airport Group.

  • That's the group owns Manchester Airport, Stansted, East Midlands Airport announced, enforced Daniel leave temporary pay cuts, and here's the kicker.

  • Temporary layoffs.

  • The boss.

  • They're saying this outbreak is the greatest threat.

  • The U case travel sector has ever faced.

  • These are the real life consequences that underlie the term or we've seen in the global markets.

  • The extraordinary is becoming the daily minutes off their opening one U.

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  • Market fell so hard and so fast that trading was suspended for 15 minutes before last week.

  • The so called circuit breakers hadn't been used in more than two decades.

  • And this was after yet another emergency interest rate cut by the U.

  • S central bank there now close to zero a movement to reassure the markets that Oh my God, if we're lowering it, if we're shooting every bullet out of the chamber leaving us at zero is there Is there worst economic news on the horizon than we think and hardest hit the travel industry?

  • Thousands of more planes will be joining these parked up and nowhere to go i e.

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  • The owners of British Airways today announced a 75% reduction in capacity over the next two months.

  • Virgin Atlantic cut 80% of its flights and as our staff to take eight weeks of unpaid leave.

  • One industry exec said there was no guarantee that many European airlines would survive, the good ones will set the transport secretary and hinted they may get government help.

  • Good business is that if it were not for this Corona virus would absolutely, you know, flourish and succeed should be in a enable thio survive through this emergency.

  • We've seen airlines in the past go to the wall.

  • Haven't way.

  • But that's where they've been.

  • Problems managed poorly or, you know, poor business models.

  • That shouldn't be the case for otherwise viable businesses.

  • Actually, whether that's airlines or indeed your soul traders, there is one section of the economy the government is frantically trying to mobilize very specialized manufacturer of ventilators for hospitals.

  • Yesterday, the health secretary put out all arms, please, for engineers across the nation to see if they can repurpose a tall order, say, even though is already doing It s early.

  • Make 1000 Children's ventilators a year.

  • How easy is it then?

  • Just a ramp up production.

  • It is very difficult.

  • It's very difficult, you know, there's a lot of training that specialized people work here, a lot of specialized components that we have to source coming in on the design and the engineering aspect of it is particularly specialized.

  • So all along the line, the whole store chain is very involved.

  • But the government gets on the phone tomorrow, says we need you thio, repurpose and start pumping out adult vent senses.

  • Would you be able to weigh?

  • Would give it a shot?

  • We would want to help.

  • Don't want to be negative, but I keep pointing back to the Time scales unit.

  • To do it in such a short, short time scale is extraordinarily challenging.

  • Demand from around the world has spiked in just a few days, but this production line is no better protected than any other from the disease.

  • It's ramping up to fight a lot of the existing star for under strain.

  • Because we had three people go off this morning or didn't report in this morning was their self isolating.

  • So the time of increased demands?

  • You know our resource is being undermined from the same from the same condition with the economy on life support.

  • What a time to take on a job looking after it today, Andrew Bailey walked in for his first day as governor of the Bank of England, his first pledge to do whatever it takes to tackle the economic infection off this virus.

  • The economic effects that materialized during the period of covert, then get extended onwards by virtue of effectively that the damage that's done to the economy and that's something that we want us wanted to minimize and stop.

  • That may be his hope, but the market's cared little for it today, from Asia to Europe, the U.

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  • And beyond.

  • One thing.

  • Joy the ball.

  • A sea of red numbers tumbling down.

  • Look, there's only so many red numbers you can see before they start losing meeting.

  • So So what is the oldest mean, how bad is it?

  • How is it has what we're seeing now compared to other financial crises.

  • But this morning we set down to crunch the numbers and it's pretty bad.

  • So we're now 18 days since the current virus crisis really hit the markets and take a look at this.

  • Here is a graph showing the drop in the 3100 three weeks after 9 11 down 14%.

  • This is after the global financial crisis in 2008 down 19% much worse.

  • But this is how we're looking now at the pandemic takes grip 33% down.

  • These are big losses bigot than we've seen in decades.

  • The fallout from this promises to be big, too.

  • Paul.

  • Thanks very much.

  • Well, I'm joined now by Dame Louise Casey, who advises the government on homelessness.

  • Carolyn Fairbairn from the C B I on front.

  • So Grady, Who's general secretary of the TC?

  • Karen Ferber In first, we've already heard tonight that a lot of theaters are going dark.

  • People advised not to visit pubs and restaurants.

  • Should they all closed temporarily?

  • Well, I mean, we are seeing the scale of this unfolding now, and it's really life for a lot of people on.

  • Also, for a lot of businesses, we are seeing a lot of businesses already having to shut their doors because of the new advice.

  • Andi, I mean, I think it will be up to every business to decide what they do, but I think we have to be very clear that action is needed at scale to support as many of those businesses possible to survive from the government from government.

  • I mean, we have to recognize that urgent action is needed at scale.

  • And what do you mean by at scale.

  • Give us a sense.

  • The numbers you're asking the government for Well, I think we need We had a package off 12 billion last week from in the budget on that felt like a good sum of money at the time, but it was targeted.

  • Mostly it's small business we're seeing actually some big challenges now facing bigger businesses as well.

  • So Cathy unlocking put an exact number on it.

  • But I think that urgent people in a room really working through what can happen very fast, and I can't emphasize strongly enough how important speed is because we're talking about business is running out of cash on that happens extremely quickly.

  • Then you have jobs at risk and they would be hard to get back France.

  • So, Grady, do you agree that significant multibillion government help is needed?

  • Can you put a figure on it?

  • Well, look at what's happening in Germany, in Sweden, in Denmark, where they're not only supporting businesses to protect them through this difficult period, but they're putting money directly into the pockets of workers through wage subsidy, better sick pay.

  • Recognizing that, you know, the cost of inaction will be much higher than helping working families now and needing a figure on the kind of levels they been talking.

  • For example, in some of those countries, I mentioned about 75% wage subsidy that that's big money, for sure.

  • But I can tell you, if those businesses go to the wall and those workers end up on the dole, the price will be much higher.

  • But I would also just want to echo the TUC and C B.

  • I have both called for a a Cobra food jobs for lively hoods for business, the economy.

  • I think we need to get in a room now and start talking about sectors like manufacturing big firms, not just small ones who are in trouble.

  • And we need to get that money into workerspockets to keep the cash flowing in the local economy.

  • Louise Casey.

  • If that kind of help isn't forthcoming, do you fear that there will be a knock on impact on homelessness?

  • Well, without doubt, there's going to be a knock on impact both on homelessness but also on hunger.

  • So as we sit here, we know there are 40 million people in this country already in poverty, half of those are working Paul, which means they're holding down some kind of a job, but they're still very poor.

  • I'm really concerned about food, banks, people stockpiling.

  • There are thousands millions of people's country.

  • They can't even afford their daily or weekly shop that totally reliant on food banks.

  • So I think we've got to think really wide here.

  • I would add what France has just said about a collaboration that we need to think about social protection and welfare fundamentally is part of that.

  • So a multibillion pound I mean, it's gotta be something much bigger than was in the budget last week.

  • Well, I think the budget needs to be rethought.

  • Everybody's saying that today, including, I think the prime minister didn't say he didn't think that was a good idea himself with his press conference.

  • I mean, I think the other thing he said at the end announced to a question about So what is the impact on low income people?

  • He said that he thought that we should make sure those people are okay now.

  • To do that will take a lot more than they've done so far, and it's gonna be done quickly because there is a belief because people right now are unable to pay their rent.

  • People right now are enabled because they are already being laid off.

  • They already reduced hours just in the last few days.

  • Karen and Fair Ben.

  • There's been quite a lot of comment about the fact that a lot of the big business is asking for help.

  • For example, Virgin.

  • They have deep pockets.

  • I mean, isn't there a sense that to corner for his role in this together and that actually business needs to dig deep, asking people to take eight weeks unpaid leave when they have deep pockets themselves?

  • It's insulting.

  • What or not?

  • What I'm saying is that where businesses have got the balance sheet, they are, by and large, making it work to keep their employees.

  • Were you surprised at Virgin doing asking for unpaid leave?

  • Well, I haven't I have a lot of detail at individual cases, but that is what they're saying.

  • Is that the right position or not?

  • You back?

  • Well, I think where companies I've seen companies digging very deep in order to bear to keep their their people on.

  • However, we have a lot of businesses who don't have those kind of cash reserves on those of the businesses that are going to need support on.

  • I would re echo the points that both Francis and Louise have made just about supporting people who are going to find themselves right at the bottom of the income level on this is a moment to find that that that support and I think businesses will be doing everything they can to keep people on.

  • I mean, the problem is, we already know two million people don't even qualify for sick pay because they don't earn enough on.

  • We know there are millions of the self employed to being transformed into the working poor.

  • But even if you do get sick pay even if you get it from day one, £94 a week, living on that for several weeks is gonna make a lot of a lot more kids Paul as well.

  • So I think the government has to step up to the plate on this one.

  • I think that what this what this crisis is showing is really the fragility off our social welfare system, including things like social care, the attempt to look after elderly in their own homes is no great already.

  • Add this to it and you know the fractures are there.

  • I would say on business, it really is time for business to sort of step up to the plate.

  • Many people are very anti business because of the previous crisis that we've had.

  • This is a real opportunity for them to really play the role, the same modus for charities and government.

  • And we've seen takeaway firms offering to deliver care packages.

  • Theo early.

  • This is a time for business to do something for the public.

  • Good, right, completing wartime completely right And I think that we are we are we are seeing that now we're seeing that the tech companies, making sure that they are able to get into homes to ensure that people can keep their supply of digital service, is home deliveries of being prioritized for older people.

  • We are seeing a lot of action, and I think what we're seeing today about the fact we're going to have elderly relatives who are in their homes and having to stay there business already in terms of conversations I've had are stepping up and we'll do more frantic radio.

  • I mean everybody finds all of this very depressing.

  • Obviously, Is there a silver lining at the end of this that you know we can fundamentally change the way people work For example, more working for home or facts for working?

  • Is there any hope you can give us?

  • I think there is a bigger question about how we run our economy, how we run our society because, you know what's clear is that competition nationalism isn't working when it comes to a big crisis like this.

  • And it has exposed the unfairness of huge numbers of people who are just no getting a decent deal in terms of support for sick pay, every layoffs and short time working.

  • I feel incredibly optimistic and hopeful that as the public realised, this is a marathon, not a sprint.

  • So all of us will doom or we will actually donate to suit runs and soup kitchens and food banks.

measures like this have not been seen in peace time.

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