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I want you to, for a moment,
我想讓大家花一點時間
think about playing a game of Monopoly,
想像一下自己正在玩大富翁遊戲
except in this game, that combination
只不過在這個遊戲裡面
of skill, talent and luck
那些幫助你贏得遊戲的因素,比如技巧,才能和運氣
that help earn you success in games, as in life,
在此無關緊要
has been rendered irrelevant,
就像對於人生一樣
because this game's been rigged,
因為這個遊戲被操縱了
and you've got the upper hand.
而你已經佔了上風
You've got more money,
你有更多的錢
more opportunities to move around the board,
有更多在棋盤上移動的機會
and more access to resources.
以及更多獲得資源的機會
And as you think about that experience,
在你想像這個經歷的時候
I want you to ask yourself,
我想讓大家問一下自己
how might that experience of being
一個被操縱的遊戲裡面
a privileged player in a rigged game
作為優勢玩家的經歷
change the way that you think about yourself
會如何改變你思考自己和
and regard that other player?
對待對手的方式?
So we ran a study on the U.C. Berkeley campus
在加州大學伯克利分校,我們做了一個試驗
to look at exactly that question.
來研究這個問題
We brought in more than 100 pairs
我們招募了100多對
of strangers into the lab,
陌生人到實驗室
and with the flip of a coin
通過投擲硬幣的方式
randomly assigned one of the two
隨機選定一對中的一個
to be a rich player in a rigged game.
作為這個遊戲中佔上風的玩家
They got two times as much money.
他們拿到了兩倍的錢
When they passed Go,
當他們途徑起點的時候
they collected twice the salary,
他們拿到兩倍的工資
and they got to roll both dice instead of one,
而且他們可以同時擲兩個骰子而不是一個
so they got to move around the board a lot more.
所以他們可以在棋盤上移動更多
(Laughter)
(笑聲)
And over the course of 15 minutes,
在接下來的15分鐘內
we watched through hidden cameras what happened.
我們通過隱藏的攝像頭觀察了現場情況
And what I want to do today, for the first time,
今天是第一次
is show you a little bit of what we saw.
我想和大家分享一下我們觀察到的
You're going to have to pardon the sound quality,
有的時候音質可能不太好,還請大家原諒
in some cases, because again, these were hidden cameras.
因為畢竟是用隱藏的攝像頭
So we've provided subtitles.
所以我們加上了字幕
Rich Player: How many 500s did you have?
富玩家:你有多少張500塊?
Poor Player: Just one.
窮玩家:就一張。
Rich Player: Are you serious. Poor Player: Yeah.
富玩家:真的嗎? 窮玩家:是啊。
Rich Player: I have three. (Laughs)
富玩家:我有三張(笑聲)
I don't know why they gave me so much.
不知道為什麼他們給了我那麼多。
Paul Piff: Okay, so it was quickly apparent to players
保羅 - 皮夫:所以,玩家們很快就意識到
that something was up.
這個遊戲明顯有點奇怪
One person clearly has a lot more money
一個玩家比另一個玩家
than the other person, and yet,
明顯有更多的錢
as the game unfolded,
隨著遊戲慢慢展開
we saw very notable differences
我們觀察到兩個玩家
and dramatic differences begin to emerge
開始有一些
between the two players.
明顯不同的表現
The rich player
富的玩家
started to move around the board louder,
在棋盤上移動的聲音更大
literally smacking the board with their piece
移動的時候
as he went around.
幾乎是在狠狠砸棋盤
We were more likely to see signs of dominance
我們看到了富玩家們更多的
and nonverbal signs,
“霸主”信號,肢體動作
displays of power
權力的顯露
and celebration among the rich players.
以及互相慶祝
We had a bowl of pretzels positioned off to the side.
我們在旁邊放了一碗椒鹽捲餅
It's on the bottom right corner there.
就在右下角
That allowed us to watch participants' consummatory behavior.
這使得我們可以觀察玩家吃椒鹽捲餅的行為
So we're just tracking how many pretzels participants eat.
我們就是看看玩家吃了多少椒鹽捲餅
Rich Player: Are those pretzels a trick?
富玩家:這些椒鹽捲餅有什麼貓膩麼?
Poor Player: I don't know.
窮玩家:不知道啊。
PP: Okay, so no surprises, people are onto us.
保羅·皮夫:好吧,不出所料,大家覺得有問題。
They wonder what that bowl of pretzels
起先他們好奇那一碗椒鹽捲餅
is doing there in the first place.
為什麼會在那裡
One even asks, like you just saw,
就像你剛才看到的,其中一個甚至問:
is that bowl of pretzels there as a trick?
這碗椒鹽捲餅有什麼貓膩麼?
And yet, despite that, the power of the situation
但儘管如此
seems to inevitably dominate,
整個現場的主導形勢還是不可避免
and those rich players start to eat more pretzels.
那些富的玩家開始吃更多的椒鹽捲餅
Rich Player: I love pretzels.
富玩家:我愛椒鹽捲餅。
(Laughter)
(笑聲)
PP: And as the game went on,
保羅·皮夫:遊戲繼續進行,
one of the really interesting and dramatic patterns
我們發現了一個很明顯的
that we observed begin to emerge
有趣現象
was that the rich players actually
就是富玩家
started to become ruder toward the other person,
開始對另一個玩家表現得不友好
less and less sensitive to the plight
對那些可憐玩家的貧窮困境
of those poor, poor players,
越來越不敏感
and more and more demonstrative
開始越來越頻繁的炫富
of their material success,
開始越來越頻繁的炫富
more likely to showcase how well they're doing.
更喜歡展示他們正在做的一切
Rich Player: I have money for everything.
富玩家:我什麼都買得起
Poor Player: How much is that?
窮玩家:你有多少錢?
Rich Player: You owe me 24 dollars.
富玩家:你還欠我24塊
You're going to lose all your money soon.
你很快就要輸光了
I'll buy it. I have so much money.
我要買它,我太多錢了
I have so much money, it takes me forever.
那麼多花都花不完的錢
Rich Player 2: I'm going to buy out this whole board.
富玩家2 :我要把整個棋盤都買下來
Rich Player 3: You're going to run out of money soon.
富玩家3 :你很快就要沒錢了
I'm pretty much untouchable at this point.
我已經差不多不可戰勝了
PP: Okay, and here's what I think
保羅 - 皮夫:下面是我覺得
was really, really interesting,
一個非常非常有意思的現象
is that at the end of the 15 minutes,
在15分鐘要結束的時候
we asked the players to talk about their experience during the game.
我們請玩家談論他們在遊戲中的經歷
And when the rich players talked about
當富玩家談論
why they had inevitably won
他們在這個被操縱的遊戲裡面
in this rigged game of Monopoly --
為什麼必勝的時候
(Laughter) —
(笑聲)
they talked about what they'd done
他們提到了自己
to buy those different properties
為了買到不同地產
and earn their success in the game,
和贏得遊戲所做的努力
and they became far less attuned
而他們忽略了
to all those different features of the situation,
這個遊戲一開始的不同形勢
including that flip of a coin
也就是投擲硬幣
that had randomly gotten them into
隨機決定了他們
that privileged position in the first place.
哪一個獲得優勢
And that's a really, really incredible insight
而這對我們理解大腦如何看待優勢
into how the mind makes sense of advantage.
提供了非常好的啟發
Now this game of Monopoly can be used
我們可以用這個大富翁的遊戲作比喻
as a metaphor for understanding society
來理解我們的社會以及社會分層
and its hierarchical structure, wherein some people
也就是有的人
have a lot of wealth and a lot of status,
有大量的財富和地位
and a lot of people don't.
而很多人沒有
They have a lot less wealth and a lot less status
他們僅有很少的財富和地位
and a lot less access to valued resources.
以及很少獲得寶貴資源的機會
And what my colleagues and I for the last seven years have been doing
我和我的同事在過去的7年裡一直在做的
is studying the effects of these kinds of hierarchies.
就是研究這些不同層次的影響
What we've been finding across dozens of studies
全國范圍內的
and thousands of participants across this country
大量研究都表明
is that as a person's levels of wealth increase,
當一個人的財富增加時
their feelings of compassion and empathy go down,
他們的同情心和同理心下降
and their feelings of entitlement, of deservingness,
而他們的優越感增加
and their ideology of self-interest increases.
也更注重個人利益
In surveys, we found that it's actually
在調查中,我們發現
wealthier individuals who are more likely
富有的人更可能
to moralize greed being good,
把貪婪定義為好的
and that the pursuit of self-interest
把對個人利益的追求
is favorable and moral.
定義為有利的,道德的
Now what I want to do today is talk about
今天我想談的就是
some of the implications of this ideology self-interest,
這種個人利益思維的影響
talk about why we should care about those implications,
談談為什麼我們應該關注這些影響
and end with what might be done.
以及我們能做些什麼
Some of the first studies that we ran in this area
我們在這一領域最初做的一些研究
looked at helping behavior,
觀察了助人行為
something social psychologists call
社會心理學家稱之為
pro-social behavior.
親社會行為
And we were really interested in who's more likely
我們很想知道什麼人更傾向於
to offer help to another person,
給其他人提供幫助
someone who's rich or someone who's poor.
富人還是窮人
In one of the studies, we bring in rich and poor
其中一個研究,我們把一個社區的富人和窮人
members of the community into the lab
都帶到了實驗室
and give each of them the equivalent of 10 dollars.
給了每個人10美元
We told the participants
我們告訴他們
that they could keep these 10 dollars for themselves,
他們可以把這10塊錢給自己用
or they could share a portion of it,
也可以把其中一部分拿出來分享
if they wanted to, with a stranger
如果他們願意的話
who is totally anonymous.
跟一個陌生人分享
They'll never meet that stranger and the stranger will never meet them.
一個永遠不會再相遇的陌生人
And we just monitor how much people give.
我們觀察人們給了多少
Individuals who made 25,000 sometimes
那些年收入為25000
under 15,000 dollars a year,
甚至低於15000美元的人
gave 44 percent more of their money
和那些年收入為15萬
to the stranger
甚至20萬的人比起來
than did individuals making 150,000
多給了44 %
or 200,000 dollars a year.
多給了44 %
We've had people play games
我們還讓人們玩遊戲
to see who's more or less likely to cheat
看看什麼人更可能
to increase their chances of winning a prize.
為了贏得一個獎品而作弊
In one of the games, we actually rigged a computer
其中一個遊戲,我們其實操縱了電腦
so that die rolls over a certain score
使得某些數字
were impossible.
不可能出現
You couldn't get above 12 in this game,
這個遊戲裡面,你不可能超過12
and yet, the richer you were,
然而,越富有的人
the more likely you were to cheat in this game
越有可能在這個遊戲中作弊
to earn credits toward a $50 cash prize,
去爭取那個最終能夠贏取50美元現金的分數
sometimes by three to four times as much.
可能性甚至高達3到4倍
We ran another study where we looked at whether
我們還做了另一個實驗
people would be inclined to take candy
觀察人們是否會
from a jar of candy that we explicitly identified
從糖罐裡面拿糖
as being reserved for children --
糖罐上清楚地寫著:給小朋友預留......
(Laughter) —
(笑聲)
participating -- I'm not kidding.
我是認真的
I know it sounds like I'm making a joke.
我知道這聽上去像我在講笑話
We explicitly told participants
我們明確地告訴了參與者
this jar of candy's for children participating
這一罐糖是給隔壁發展中心的
in a developmental lab nearby.
小朋友準備的
They're in studies. This is for them.
他們在實驗中,這是給他們的
And we just monitored how much candy participants took.
然後我們觀察這些參與者拿了多少糖果
Participants who felt rich
那些感覺富有的參與者
took two times as much candy
比那些感覺貧窮的參與者
as participants who felt poor.
多拿了兩倍的糖果
We've even studied cars,
我們還研究了汽車
not just any cars,
不只是汽車
but whether drivers of different kinds of cars
而是不同類型汽車的司機
are more or less inclined to break the law.
誰更傾向於做一些違法的事情
In one of these studies, we looked at
其中一個實驗,我們觀察了
whether drivers would stop for a pedestrian
司機在碰到行人(我們安排的)過馬路時的
that we had posed waiting to cross at a crosswalk.
停車行為
Now in California, as you all know,
在加州,大家都知道
because I'm sure we all do this,
因為我相信我們都有這樣做
it's the law to stop for a pedestrian who's waiting to cross.
法律規定碰到行人要過馬路,我們必須停車
So here's an example of how we did it.
下面我告訴大家我們是怎樣做的
That's our confederate off to the left
左側是我們的研究人員
posing as a pedestrian.
裝作一個行人
He approaches as the red truck successfully stops.
他正要過馬路,這時候紅色的卡車停了下來
In typical California fashion, it's overtaken
當然這是在加州
by the bus who almost runs our pedestrian over.
很快一輛巴士呼嘯而過,差點要撞倒我們的行人
(Laughter)
(笑聲)
Now here's an example of a more expensive car,
這是一輛比較貴的車
a Prius, driving through,
一輛普銳斯開過來
and a BMW doing the same.
一輛寶馬車也一樣
So we did this for hundreds of vehicles
幾天內
on several days,
我們測試了幾百輛車
just tracking who stops and who doesn't.
記錄誰停了誰沒有停
What we found was that as the expensiveness
我們發現
of a car increased,
隨著車價的增加
the driver's tendencies to break the law
司機違法的傾向
increased as well.
也增加了
None of the cars, none of the cars
而在我們的廉價車系裡
in our least expensive car category
沒有一輛車
broke the law.
做出違法行為
Close to 50 percent of the cars
而在我們的昂貴車系裡
in our most expensive vehicle category
有接近50 %的車
broke the law.
都違法了
We've run other studies finding that
我們還做了其它研究並發現
wealthier individuals are more likely to lie in negotiations,
越有錢的人越有可能在談判中說謊
to endorse unethical behavior at work
贊同工作中的不道德行為
like stealing cash from the cash register,
比如從收銀台偷現金
taking bribes, lying to customers.
受賄,忽悠顧客等
Now I don't mean to suggest
我並不是說
that it's only wealthy people
只是有錢人
who show these patterns of behavior.
會表現出類似的行為
Not at all. In fact, I think that we all,
完全不是,事實上,我覺得我們每個人
in our day-to-day, minute-by-minute lives,
在我們日常的分分秒秒中
struggle with these competing motivations
都要跟這些動機作鬥爭
of when, or if, to put our own interests
什麼時候以及是否把我們的利益置於
above the interests of other people.
他人的利益之上
And that's understandable because
這很容易理解
the American dream is an idea
因為美國夢告訴我們
in which we all have an equal opportunity
每個人都有同等的機會
to succeed and prosper,
可以成功,發達
as long as we apply ourselves and work hard,
只要我們足夠努力
and a piece of that means that sometimes,
而這也意味著有的時候
you need to put your own interests
你需要把自己的利益
above the interests and well-being of other people around you.
置於你周邊人的利益和幸福之上
But what we're finding is that,
但是我們的發現是
the wealthier you are, the more likely you are
你越有錢,則越有可能
to pursue a vision of personal success,
去追求一種個人的成功
of achievement and accomplishment,
個人的成果和成就
to the detriment of others around you.
這可能是建立在對旁人的損害之上
Here I've plotted for you the mean household income
這裡我為大家畫出了
received by each fifth and top five percent of the population
在過去20年裡
over the last 20 years.
每個的1/5和最高5 %人口的平均家庭收入
In 1993, the differences between the different
1993年
quintiles of the population, in terms of income,
每個的1/5之間的收入差異
are fairly egregious.
還是相當大的
It's not difficult to discern that there are differences.
我們不難看出其中的差別
But over the last 20 years, that significant difference
但是在過去的20年裡面
has become a grand canyon of sorts
這種巨大差異最終成為了
between those at the top and everyone else.
頂層人群與其他所有人之間的鴻溝
In fact, the top 20 percent of our population
事實是,頂層20 %的人口
own close to 90 percent of the total wealth in this country.
擁有整個國家接近90 %的財富
We're at unprecedented levels
我們正在經歷史無前例的
of economic inequality.
經濟上的不平等
What that means is that wealth is not only becoming
而這不僅意味著財富
increasingly concentrated in the hands of a select group of individuals,
更多地聚集在為數很少的一群人手裡
but the American dream is becoming
還意味著美國夢
increasingly unattainable
對越來越多的人來說
for an increasing majority of us.
都變得越來越遙遠
And if it's the case, as we've been finding,
如果事實果真如我們發現的那樣
that the wealthier you are,
你越有錢
the more entitled you feel to that wealth,
就越發覺得這些財富是你應得的
and the more likely you are to prioritize your own interests
越會把自己的利益
above the interests of other people,
置於他人的利益之上
and be willing to do things to serve that self-interest,
越會做那些利己的事情
well then there's no reason to think
那麼沒有理由可以相信
that those patterns will change.
這個現狀會有所改變
In fact, there's every reason to think
事實上,我們有更多的理由認為
that they'll only get worse,
情況會變得更糟糕
and that's what it would look like if things just stayed the same,
這是在接下來的20年內
at the same linear rate, over the next 20 years.
保持和原來一樣,相同線性速率的情況
Now, inequality, economic inequality,
不平等,經濟上的不平等
is something we should all be concerned about,
是我們每個人都要關心的問題
and not just because of those at the bottom
不僅是因為社會底層的人
of the social hierarchy,
不僅是因為社會底層的人
but because individuals and groups
而是因為經濟不平等
with lots of economic inequality do worse,
會讓個人和集體都變得糟糕
not just the people at the bottom, everyone.
不僅僅是底層的人,是每一個人
There's a lot of really compelling research
有很多來自世界各地頂級實驗室的
coming out from top labs all over the world
非常有說服力的研究
showcasing the range of things
展示了日益增加的經濟不平等
that are undermined
造成的影響範圍
as economic inequality gets worse.
造成的影響範圍
Social mobility, things we really care about,
社會流動性,那些我們非常關心的東西
physical health, social trust,
如身體健康,社會信任
all go down as inequality goes up.
都會隨著不平等的增加而削弱
Similarly, negative things
同樣的,社會中消極的東西
in social collectives and societies,
同樣的,社會中消極的東西
things like obesity, and violence,
比如肥胖,暴力
imprisonment, and punishment,
徒刑和懲罰
are exacerbated as economic inequality increases.
都會隨著經濟不平等的增加而加劇
Again, these are outcomes not just experienced
而這些後果
by a few, but that resound
不是少數人所經歷的
across all strata of society.
而是會影響社會的各個階層
Even people at the top experience these outcomes.
即使是在頂層的人也要遭受這些後果
So what do we do?
那我們該怎麼辦呢?
This cascade of self-perpetuating,
這些帶有延續性的
pernicious, negative effects
有害的消極影響
could seem like something that's spun out of control,
看上去像是什麼東西失控了
and there's nothing we can do about it,
而我們無能為力
certainly nothing we as individuals could do.
特別是作為個人更是無能為力
But in fact, we've been finding
但是事實上,我們發現
in our own laboratory research
在我們自己的實驗室研究中
that small psychological interventions,
小小的心理干預
small changes to people's values,
價值觀的小小改變
small nudges in certain directions,
某些特定的微小暗示
can restore levels of egalitarianism and empathy.
就可以將平等和同理心恢復
For instance, reminding people
比如,提醒人們
of the benefits of cooperation,
合作的好處
or the advantages of community,
或者社區的優點
cause wealthier individuals to be just as egalitarian
就能夠讓富人和窮人一樣關注平等
as poor people.
就能夠讓富人和窮人一樣關注平等
In one study, we had people watch a brief video,
其中一個實驗中,我們讓參與者看一短片
just 46 seconds long, about childhood poverty
46秒,關於兒童貧困
that served as a reminder of the needs of others
以此提醒大家周圍人的需要
in the world around them,
以此提醒大家周圍人的需要
and after watching that,
看過這個視頻後
we looked at how willing people were
我們觀察了他們
to offer up their own time to a stranger
為實驗中一個壓抑的陌生人
presented to them in the lab who was in distress.
提供幫助的積極性
After watching this video, an hour later,
看完這個視頻一個小時後
rich people became just as generous
富人變得和窮人一樣大方
of their own time to help out this other person,
他們願意花時間幫助別人
a stranger, as someone who's poor,
幫助那些陌生人
suggesting that these differences are not
這意味著這些差別不是
innate or categorical,
與生俱來或一成不變的
but are so malleable
它們很容易改變
to slight changes in people's values,
只需要價值觀的微小變化
and little nudges of compassion
同情心的一點點推動
and bumps of empathy.
和同理心的輕微觸碰
And beyond the walls of our lab,
在實驗室之外
we're even beginning to see signs of change in society.
我們也開始看到社會上的改變
Bill Gates, one of our nation's wealthiest individuals,
比爾 - 蓋茨,我們國家的富豪之一
in his Harvard commencement speech,
在哈佛的開學典禮演講中
talked about the problem facing society
說到這個社會所面臨的問題
of inequality as being the most daunting challenge,
他說不平等是我們目前面臨的最嚴峻挑戰
and talked about what must be done to combat it,
他談論了我們應該如何戰勝它
saying, "Humanity's greatest advances
他說: “人類最偉大的進步”
are not in its discoveries,
“不在於它的各種發現”
but in how those discoveries are applied
“而在於如何將這些發現”
to reduce inequity."
用於削弱不平等“
And there's the Giving Pledge,
還有捐贈承諾
in which more than 100 of our nation's
我們國家100多個
wealthiest individuals
最富有的人
are pledging half of their fortunes to charity.
正在承諾將他們一半的財產捐贈給慈善事業
And there's the emergence
還有很多草根運動的出現
of dozens of grassroots movements,
還有很多草根運動的出現
like We are the One Percent,
比如“我們是那百分之一”
the Resource Generation,
“資源一代”
or Wealth for Common Good,
“共同的財富”等
in which the most privileged
在這些組織中
members of the population,
那些最有優勢的成員
members of the one percent and elsewhere,
那些1 %的人
people who are wealthy,
和其他有錢的人
are using their own economic resources,
其中有成人有青少年,這是最讓我震驚的
adults and youth alike, that's what's most striking to me,
他們正在利用自己的優勢
leveraging their own privilege,
他們正在利用自己的優勢
their own economic resources,
利用自己的經濟資源
to combat inequality
與不平等抗爭
by advocating for social policies,
通過倡導社會政策
changes in social values,
社會價值的改變
and changes in people's behavior,
人類行為的改變
that work against their own economic interests
這有悖於他們自身的經濟利益
but that may ultimately restore the American dream.
但卻會最終重建美國夢!
Thank you.
謝謝!
(Applause)
(掌聲)