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President Obama: I know we're a little behind,
but that's mainly because
President Xi and I had a very constructive conversation
on a whole range of strategic issues,
from North Korea to cyberspace to international institutions.
And I'm very much looking forward
to continuing the conversation,
not only tonight at dinner but also tomorrow.
But I thought we'd take a quick break just to take a question
from both the U.S. and Chinese press.
So what I'll do is I'll start with Julie Pace
and then President Xi can call on a Chinese counterpart.
The Press: Thank you, Mr. President.
How damaging has Chinese cyber-hacking been to the U.S.?
And did you warn your counterpart about any specific
consequences if those actions continue?
And also, while there are obviously differences between
China's alleged actions and your government's surveillance
programs, do you think that the new NSA revelations undermine
your position on these issues at all during these talks?
And President Xi, did --
President Obama: Why don't you let the interpreter --
The Press: And President Xi, did you acknowledge
in your talks with President Obama
that China has been launching cyber attacks against the U.S.?
Do you also believe that the U.S. is launching
similar attacks against China?
And if so, can you tell us
what any of the targets may have been?
Thank you.
President Obama: Well, Julie, first of all, we haven't had, yet,
in-depth discussions about the cybersecurity issue.
We're speaking at the 40,000-foot level,
and we'll have more intensive discussions
during this evening's dinner.
What both President Xi and I recognize is that
because of these incredible advances in technology,
that the issue of cybersecurity and the need for rules
and common approaches to cybersecurity
are going to be increasingly important
as part of bilateral relationships
and multilateral relationships.
In some ways, these are uncharted waters
and you don't have the kinds of protocols
that have governed military issues,
for example, and arms issues, where nations have a lot
of experience in trying to negotiate what's acceptable
and what's not.
And it's critical, as two of the largest economies
and military powers in the world,
that China and the United States arrive
at a firm understanding
of how we work together on these issues.
But I think it's important, Julie, to get to the second part
of your question, to distinguish between the deep concerns
we have as a government around theft of intellectual property
or hacking into systems that might disrupt those systems --
whether it's our financial systems, our critical
infrastructure and so forth -- versus some of the issues
that have been raised around NSA programs.
When it comes to those cybersecurity issues
like hacking or theft, those are not issues
that are unique to the U.S.-China relationship.
Those are issues that are of international concern.
Oftentimes it's non-state actors
who are engaging in these issues as well.
And we're going to have to work very hard to build a system
of defenses and protections, both in the private sector
and in the public sector,
even as we negotiate with other countries
around setting up common rules of the road.
And as China continues in its development process
and more of its economy is based on research and innovation
and entrepreneurship,
they're going to have similar concerns.
Which is why I believe we can work together on this
rather than at cross-purposes.
Now, the NSA program, as I discussed this morning,
is a very limited issue,
but it does have broad implications
for our society because you've got a lot of data out there,
a lot of communications that are in cyberspace.
And how we deal with both
identifying potential terrorists or criminals,
how the private sector deals with potential theft,
and how the federal government, state governments,
local governments, and the private sector coordinate
to keep out some of these malicious forces
while still preserving the openness
and the incredible power of the Internet and the web
and these new telecommunications systems --
that's a complicated and important piece of business.
But it's different from these issues of theft and hacking.
And every government is then inevitably going to be involved
in these issues, just like big companies
are going to be involved in these issues.
I mean, you've got private companies
that have a lot more data
and a lot more details about people's emails
and telephone calls than the federal government does.
And if we're called upon not only to make sure
that we're anticipating terrorist communications
but we're also called upon to work with the private sector
to prevent theft out of ATMs, et cetera,
then we're going to have to find ways
to deal with this big data
in ways that are consistent with our values;
in ways that protect people's privacy,
that ensure oversight, and strike the right balance.
And as I indicated this morning,
that's a conversation that I welcome having.
President Xi: (as interpreted) As President Obama said,
in our meeting this afternoon
we just briefly touched upon the issue of cybersecurity.
And the Chinese government is firm in upholding cybersecurity
and we have major concerns about cybersecurity.
In the few days before President Obama and I meet today,
I note sharp increased media coverage
of the issue of cybersecurity.
This might give people the sense or feeling that cybersecurity
as a threat mainly comes from China or that the issue
of cybersecurity is the biggest problem
in the China-U.S. relationship.
The application of new technology
is a double-edged sword.
On the one hand, it will drive progress in ensuring better
material and cultural life for the people.
On the other hand, it might create some problems for
regulators and it might infringe upon the rights of states,
enterprises, societies and individuals.
We need to pay close attention to this issue and study ways
to effectively resolve this issue.
And this matter can actually be an area for China
and the United States to work together with each other
in a pragmatic way.
And I'm happy to learn
that within the context of the China-U.S. strategic
and economic dialogue, a working group has been
established to discuss cybersecurity issues.
So this is an issue that the two sides will continue to discuss.
By conducting good-faith cooperation we can remove
misgivings and make information security and cybersecurity
a positive area of cooperation between China and the U.S.
Because China and the United States both have a need
and both share a concern,
and China is a victim of cyber attacks
and we hope that earnest measures
can be taken to resolve this matter.
Thank you.
The Press: I'm with China Central Television
and my question for President Xi is,
what are the main issues that were discussed
in the longer-than-expected meeting this afternoon?
And what are the major areas of consensus
that have emerged from the discussion?
And last year, when you were visiting the United States,
you raised the concept of the two sides working together
to explore what you call a new model of major country
relationship, something that is unprecedented
in the relationship
and that can inspire future generations.
And after this concept was raised,
there has been much discussion and comment on it,
both in China and the United States
and in the world more broadly.
So did you have further discussion on this issue
in your meeting this afternoon?
And my question for President Obama is,
what will the United States do
to contribute to the building of a new model
of major country relationship between China and the U.S.?
President Xi: (as interpreted) In the first meeting
that I've had with President Obama this afternoon,
we had an in-depth, sincere and candid discussion
on the domestic and foreign policies
of China and the United States,
on our joint work to build a new model
of major country relationship,
and our international and regional issues
of mutual interest.
And the President and I reached
important consensus on these issues.
I stated very clearly to President Obama
that China will be firmly committed
to the path of peaceful development
and China will be firm in deepening reform
and opening up the country wider to the world.
China will work hard to realize the Chinese dream
of the great national renewal
and will work hard to push forward the noble cause
of peace and development for all mankind.
By the Chinese dream, we seek to have economic prosperity,
national renewal and people's well-being.
The Chinese dream is about cooperation, development,
peace and win-win,
and it is connected to the American Dream
and the beautiful dreams people in other countries may have.
President Obama and I both believe that in the age
of economic globalization and facing the objective need
of countries sticking together in the face of difficulties,
China and the United States must find a new path --
one that is different
from the inevitable confrontation and conflict
between the major countries of the past.
And that is to say the two sides must work together to build
a new model of major country relationship based on mutual
respect and win-win cooperation for the benefit of the Chinese
and American peoples, and people elsewhere in the world.
The international community
looks to China and the United States to deliver this.
When China and the United States work together,
we can be an anchor for world stability
and the propeller of world peace.
I stand ready to work with President Obama to expand
on all levels of exchanges between the two sides.
I look forward to maintaining close communication
with the President through mutual visits,
bilateral meetings, exchange of letters and phone calls.
And I invited President Obama to come to China
at an appropriate time for a similar meeting like this.
And we look forward to visiting each other country.
At the same time, the two sides will work hard to make progress
in the various bilateral mechanisms,
such as the strategic and economic dialogue
and the high-level consultation on people-to-people exchange.
Also, the Chinese Minister of Foreign Affairs
and the Chinese Minister of National Defense
will both make visits to the United States within the year.
Our two sides should also step up exchanges and cooperation
in economy and trade, energy, environment, people-to-people,
and cultural fields, as well as at the sub-national level,
so that we can deepen the shared interests of the two countries
and expand them to all areas.
We should also improve and strengthen
the military-to-military relationship
between the two countries
and promote the building of a new model
of military relationship between the two sides.
The two sides should also improve coordination on
microeconomic policies so that by strengthening cooperation,
we can contribute to our respective development at home,
and promote strong, sustainable and balanced economic growth
in the Asia Pacific region and the world at large.
And I'm confident in our joint effort to build a new model
of major country relationship.
I believe success hinges on the human effort.
Firstly, both sides have the political
will to build this relationship.
Secondly, our cooperation in the last 40 years provides
a good foundation for us to build on.
Thirdly, between China and the United States,
there are over 90 intergovernmental mechanisms
which provide the institutional underpinning for our efforts.
Fourth, there is strong public support for this kind
of relationship between China and the United States.
There are 220 pairs of sister provinces,
states and cities between China and the U.S.
There are 190,000 Chinese students in the United States,
and 20,000 American students in China.
And fifth, there is enormous scope for future cooperation
between China and the U.S.
Of course, this endeavor is unprecedented
and one that will inspire future generations.
So we need to deepen our mutual understanding,
strengthen our mutual trust,
further develop our cooperation
and manage our differences so that we can avoid
the traditional path of inevitable confrontation
between major countries and really embark on a new path.
The Chinese nation and American nation are great nations,
and the Chinese people and American people
are great peoples.
As long as we stand high and look far,
as long as we make specific progress
and accumulate them over time,
as long as we maintain confidence and determination,
as long as we have wisdom and patience,
I'm confident that we will succeed
in achieving this historical mission.
I'm sorry for going too long.
Thank you.
President Obama: Well, I think President Xi summarized very well
the scope of our conversations.
We spoke about some very specific issues --
for example, President Xi mentioned the importance
of military-to-military communications.
In the past, we've had high-level diplomatic
communications about economic and strategic issues,
but we haven't always had as effective communications
between our militaries.
And at a time when there's so much activity around the world,
it's very important that we each understand our strategic
objectives at the military as well as the political levels.
So that's an example of concrete progress
that can advance this new model of relations
between the United States and China.
So we'll be taking steps to institutionalize
and regularize such discussions.
But more broadly, I think President Xi identified
the essence of our discussions
in which we shared our respective visions
for our countries' futures and agreed
that we're more likely to achieve our objectives
of prosperity and security of our people
if we are working together cooperatively,
rather than engaged in conflict.
And I emphasized my firm belief to President Xi
that it is very much in the interest of the United States
for China to continue its peaceful rise,
because if China is successful,
that helps to drive the world economy and it puts China
in the position to work with us as equal partners
in dealing with many of the global challenges
that no single nation can address by itself.
So, for example, neither country by itself can deal
with the challenge of climate change.
That's an issue that we'll have to deal with together.
China as the largest country, as it continues to develop,
will be a larger and larger carbon emitter
unless we find new mechanisms for green growth.
The United States, we have the largest carbon footprint
per capita in the world;
we've got to bring down our carbon levels
in order to accommodate continued growth.
And so that will translate then into opportunities
for specific work around green technologies
and research and development,
and interactions between our scientists so that we can,
together, help advance the goal of a sustainable planet,
even as we continue to grow and develop.
We've got a lot of work to do to take these broad understandings
down to the level of specifics, and that will require
further discussions not only today and tomorrow,
but for weeks, months, years to come.
But what I'm very encouraged about is that both President Xi
and myself recognize we have a unique opportunity
to take the U.S.-China relationship to a new level.
And I am absolutely committed to making sure
that we don't miss that opportunity.
Thank you very much, everybody.