Um, we are actually at my house.

We're in the basement of my house where it's nice and quiet and its own.

And I and we had to tape some ads toe to go out.

And then I realized, Hey, we're here without our producer, Mad Gourlay.

So this is our chance to dish on that Gourlay.

You know he's not here now.

Don't get me wrong.

I love girls.

Corals.

That's what I call him Girls.

Some of your nicknames.

What?

They're not great girls.

G o U r l z with Z.

Okay, it's girls.

Anyway, he's not here, So this is our chance to talk about him.

Dish sip a little tea.

Is that with the kids thing?

Oh, my God.

They say I don't know.

Honestly, I've heard my daughter say it.

Is it sip a little tea?

You know what, isn't it?

Spill the tea.

It's eileen ability.

Well, that's cause you're dishing.

You're you're dishing some hot goss.

If you've got something to act, he doesn't have a microphone.

No, but he can.

You can just lean in and say What is it?

Play?

Yeah, I think it's like or you say something and you say like, and that's the tea and that's that The tea is the Gauss.

I like saying, Let's brew the tea.

Oh, let's brew the tea or let's let the tea steep.

Those aren't good.

What's let the tea steep then will use some sort of mash to, uh, keep all ah, little detritus out of the cup.

And then we'll pour the tea into the cup it enjoy the tea, hence gossip.

Do you like my way of saying it is so long?

Well, it's a process, doesn't it take so long, Kay, you just say spill the tea, not remind.

That's not what the way I like to say it.

Okay.

I'm sorry, Gus.

Brew the tea egg Let it steep so the nutrients and flavors from within the leaf can become part of the broth.

Then strain aforementioned t extracting with mash all detritus and then sip the tea as it goes from warm to you.

You know you're laughing, and then you're always putting a microphone away, denying me of the one thing I really need, which is laughter.

You need it so badly.

Yes, I d'oh You're like, uh, a drug addict and that's the drug.

So I was gonna say like, Tinker Bell.

But I remember you made that analogy in the documentary you shot 10 years ago.

Where you're like Tinkerbell like you need applause or else you die.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Without laughter and applause, I die.

I'm sorry.

I moved the micro.

If someone's not laughing at me, then I don't exist.

Well, not only did you I'm laughing, but you needed to make sure people knew I was laughing.

So if I haven't made someone laugh within a 24 hour period, it means I never did exist.

All my past history is erased.

It's a weird thing.

It's sort of like What's that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio where buildings fold into themselves?

The revenant?

Yeah, Yeah, the revenue.

Remember the Revenant House skyscrapers fold in on themselves.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Come on.

Okay, so anyway, inception.

Um What?

It would be nice to me.

Gourlay is not here.

Okay, let's talk.

Okay.

Chances.

Spilled tea on girls.

Girls?

Yeah, Let's brew removed to try to drink some tea and then spill.

Said t if there's any left over after we drink it on morals.

Now listen, I love the guy, and he doesn't amazing job, you know?

He's like, considered a God in the podcast world.

I know.

And, um, he does.

Look, you can tell we're in my house because someone's ringing the bell.

Who is it?

It's probably Coralie Girlie.

Probably knows we met without any, is that he's a thief, has a sensor.

They're talking.

So he probably got into his vintage sob in any way, But he's not here.

And I just want to say, I do love the guy.

He's a maestro.

Yeah.

Do you think that it's wrong that we're talking about him when he's not here to stand up for himself?

No, no, no.

That's the best time to talk about people behind their back.

Yes, yes.

I grew up Irish Catholic, as you all know on.

I grew up in a family where you never confronted anybody at all.

You just don't know what you do is you wait till they're out of the room.

Don't you think that that's wrong?

And that you should talk to someone?

Yes, directly, terribly wrong.

Okay.

Okay.

Wrong.

And it's an official ing it.

It's I mean, other life.

Things that are wrong, that we keep doing right, right?

I still eat pizza.

I'm not supposed to eat pizza.

Pizza's amazing.

You know, it's terrible and it's wrong.

But this is the best time to talk about Gourlay because he can't stand up for himself.

Because when people defend themselves, it's just a waste of time.

It's a it's a it's a time waster.

Well, what does that even mean?

It means that when someone says, Wait a minute, You just said that I'd like to defend myself.

That's all time wasted away, right?

So in your perfect world, you just go after someone.

They don't stick up for themselves.

They can't.

They're not there.

That's awful.