It's a pleasure.

Thank you very much.

Very nice to Thio be here with you.

We've met before, but have you interviewed me?

But I have never interviewed you before.

Way had a lunch and quite strange circumstances Accompanied by the legend That is Curtis Tiger.

Yeah, oddly on Nick Revel, Revel the brilliant comedian Way we got on quite well.

I hope I feel we did good because you were writing this when we met you.

And you were quite you probably don't remember, but you were quite immersed.

I think it's almost as if you were poking your head outside the sort of porthole of a submarine for the first time in a while.

And it was clear that you were you'd come up with.

The idea of doing the memoir is innate Izzet.

Remind me.

Why that I suppose just cause I thought probably people won't be very interested in, you know what?

The details of my birth.

And so I thought, Well, this way it'll give me a chance and 80 cents.

So So, uh, and it's and it's not strictly chronological that there is a kind of loose chronology to it.

But, um, you know, B is for boldness.

Jeers for gay.

I just thought I just thought, Oh, this allows me to sort of get to the point this way, you know, Onda.

Also, to avoid the slight grandiosity of writing an autobiography at such a young age, you can you can kind of pretend it isn't.

It's funny.

I don't think of myself as young anymore.

Well, it's weird, actually.

I think a lot of comedians, right?

Their autobiographies in their thirties now on Dhe I think I've just about had enough to fill up a book.

There's a lot of stuff that could have filled up a second book that I decided not to write.

Why?

Because I think you can't.

You can't write everything.

You've got to keep some stuff for yourself.

And also the truth is, I, as I found out in releasing this book, is that anything you write is under scrutiny on dhe.

Um, there's something that you can't really talk about because they affect other people.

Maybe so, you know, I write that my parents got divorced, but I don't write the strict details.

You know what is their business?

Yeah, it's not mine.

It's part of my life, but it's it's, you know that.

You know, my family aren't really in the business you comfortable talking about, Did you?

Did you find writing about yourself fun?

Well, it was weird because obviously, it forced me to think about the aspects of my life in maybe things I hadn't thought about for a while, so I found it in some ways quite hard, actually.

Actually, you know what I think?

I think what is quite hard to talk about is your career.

Because you no one can.

You can write about your life on Dhe.

You know, things have happened to events that happened to you with a sense of ownership.

But once you start talking about your career, you are You know, your words do impact on other people that you worked with who are still out there working on dhe.

So you know you're not selling it.

You realize that you're saying there's no juicy stories about people that have collaborated with him.

There's not a lot of personal stuff which neither of which are true.

Yeah, but I think I think I think there is.

All right, this is so This is what's happened, right?

So So I'll give you a given example.

So Ah, you're damned if you do.

And you're damned if you do it right.

So if you write a book about yourself, So for instance, I just spent a year on Doctor who?

Andi had a great experience and I got along with everyone on dhe.

It was just It was supposed to be one episode, and it ended up being many, many, many more than that whole series on because the character was so so Yeah, What yet people seem Thio, You know, the character.

The character grew and developed thanks to the writing and on there was a good chemistry on screen with the other with the other actors.

And so yeah, and so I was there, Right on Dhe.

There are people in the show that over here, they call runners in America.

They be called PS on DDE.

Ah, Lauren on dhe Rian and Chris on their job is to just often too, just to knock on my trailer door and say, Can I get you anything?

And I would say, Oh, can I have 11 peanuts in a bottle of dental please.

Can I have one of those lawnmowers?

You can see it so I'd say something silly and they would laugh, right?

Andi that would that would be that.

And then very occasionally they'd say, Can I get you something?

And I say, Yes.

Can I have a kind of coke or a glass of water?

You know, I was relatively, I think you would serve is relatively low maintenance on dhe.

But the Daily Mail in there in there, in the review of the book, wrote a thing about how I'm kind of hated by the crew because I send them off to get.

I think it's funny to send them off to get thes pointless things, which just for my own amusement and that I'm so that they kind of hate me.

And I thought, Well, no and clearly joking.

And I've told the story.

No, no, no, The road.

I'm joking.

I'm still friends with all those people.

Some message each other like I still like.

No, there was no this was done for.

We were just mucking about like it was theirs clearly, and it's on, and it's very clear in the book that I was just like just being silly, you know, on Dhe.

But they wrote a story about how you know how, how I was hated on the set and things like that.

So I think I think anything you write will be willfully misinterpreted when you write books.

So you have to just be really, really aware.

For instance, there is not a bad word about David Williams in this book.

There's not a bad word about David Williams.

I have no reason to say about word about him, but they still ran a story saying The Battle of Little Britain, and they wrote, I made it.

I think I make a joke in the book about, um, I make some kind of joke about how he's now sold so many Children's books that I'm talking about flying in the book about that he can have his own private jet with a river, a pink private jet with a river to swim up and down it.

It's like it's clearly a gag.

But again, the Daily Mail wrote something like, Oh, hey, seething with jealousies fueled jealousy is like, No, I'm happy for my friend like stunned the world.

And they wrote a thing about, Ah, you know, because they've got no be on like supposedly I was, you know, snubbed orbiter, whatever.

And it's like, Well, no, I know I publicly congratulated him when it was when the news came out.

I congratulate him again publicly when when he received it, I also wrote him privately because, of course, and that, you know, we had a cordial in to change.

So, like on DSO.

And so it's a strange thing.

So even when you write something positive, you know, you know you're in control of the book, but you're not really in control of of reaction, and you just have to accept that on.

But it does.

I do think I do think in some ways there would be things you could talk about, that you just basically, you have to not talk about them, not because they're not true.

But I think some people shoot your way, live in the clique page, and so context is not really It's not really like sure given often, you know, because actually, even if you have warm feelings for someone, they'll write that you don't, you know, and it's and it's strange and I was sad for David when that story came out, because I thought he's getting an OBE today and that's his day.

And yet they've tried to make a story about something else, and I just thought and he must, you know, just like Well, that's kind of a message.

No.

Well, I said I wrote in to say congratulations, but I mean that no casinos he's been doing is still a shadow.

Potentially will not massively, no, no, a massive shadow.

But it's just an example off the fact that when you write a book, you have to be a wet like, for instance, I do Q and A's to promote the book.

And I'm just very, very aware that there are journalists in the audience of the Q and A's, so any joke you make will be pounced on.

So these days being a comedian, you are like a politician.

You have to watch absolutely everything you say.

Even this conversation may be reported with me as it has me kind of winding.

Well, I'm not really winding.

I'm just kind of contextualizing the experience of writing the book.

The reality is the book is actually very candid But it is easier to write about your life in your career, I found, which I always thought would be the other way around because, um, if I was to say, I thought this show I did wasn't as good as that show I did or something.

It would be reported as Mitt by slamming something on.

Because because such hyperbole exists, you know, in the way things reported even in the broadsheets, it just makes you have to be.

It brings about a kind of blandness on dhe.

But the book itself, the book itself, I think, is very candid and very revealing.

Um, and, uh, what it is, and I feel it is, you know, I was gonna ask you.

You were describing that and?

Well, come on.

That's far from the worst treatment you've received from the Daily Mail over the years.

I was gonna ask you why you let it get to you.

But of course, that presumes that there's a choice involved.

What you talking about?

Specifically?

Just just My dad was a newspaper journalist.

I was a newspaper journalist in the old phrase about it being tomorrow's fish and chip paper.

It's a cliche because it has a certain resonance, and I don't think that's true anymore.

I think things, I think, no, I don't think because because of online there's something.

But if you know the truth and the people about whom you're talking know the truth and the embellishment of the exaggeration is only really being done by the journalists.

It's not a criticism.

It's a question.

But you could be a bit more relaxed about it.

Depends.

I think there was.

There was a situation recently where there's a line in my book where I explain why I am not going to go into detail about my relationship with my late partner.

And I explained, You know, if you read the book, you understand, why do you talk?

I do talk about bereavement in the book, but I don't talk about a great deal about him about our relationship, because I feel that there's a new immorality in using his suffering, too, to sell in my book.

I just think it's I'm not comfortable with it and I've never done it.

I'd never have done that.

I went to an awards ceremony to pick up an award.

The attitude awards on Dhe.

I said a few words from the stage just to thank them for the award.

Made a couple of gags on Dhe.

The metro newspaper took some lines.

They reported it as mats.

Award receives award tinged with sadness because, um ah, because his late partner wasn't life and what they did was they took Cem.

They took some lines from the book and said, You know, I'm made out Like I'd said those words about Kevin at the ceremony.

Andi, which the ceremony was nothing to do with with any of that.

There was nothing to do with the book.

There was nothing to do with anything.

I was just receiving a comedian.

What on Dhe.

And I was offended by that because it looked like I was using a moment on the red carpet to talk about my late partner to try and gain sympathy.

Andi kind of endorsement from the public to say feel sorry for me.

Andi, you know, appreciate my journey that I've come through this and now I'm receiving award and it's not but just didn't happen.

None of that actually happened.

I would not stand on a red carpet and say, Oh, Yeah, I wish she was here because I don't I've never given.

I don't give interviews about him a tool.

So I was I was I was upset by that because I think it looked like I was using his suffering to kind of seem more appealing and more deserving of success.

And I haven't done that in the book.

Doesn't do that either, because the book of knowledge is that we had a relationship and it talks about bereavement because it's something I live with.

And it's something peep on many, many, many, many people live with on dhe work through in their lives.

And I thought it would not be honest to not talk about that because it's been a big, you know, a big, big part of my life for the past few years.

But I would not be so cheap and so crass as to give an interview where I talk about it on.

That offended me on his behalf because the impression given was that you had, with the false impression that the false impression there's a line in the book where I explain why I won't talk about him, and they took that line and put it as if I'd given it is an interview and I hadn't.

Andi went uncorrected because remains uncorrected.

Traces off with lawyers halfway around the world before the truth is going.

Yeah, I realize.

I realize in the grand scheme of things, most people would read it, not even notice it.

But it's you let me use you gonna run a phrase by which just popped into my head while you were talking.

You sound you speak like a man who who worries that you lose custody of your own character when the newspapers get hold of Well, that what you've just popped right now listening to you, you're almost describing.

I am May I may, I think, deeply, more deeply than perhaps people appreciate for someone who's achieved fame by being silly.

You're very deep thinker, and you think deeply about about yourself and your relationship with people in with the world, and then these lazy journeys of which I used to be one.

I have to be honest.

I was a tabloid journalist who forgot that famous people were human beings and molded quotes toe just get a bigger impact.