Link does have sound thing open.

Last time we did it show together, I wait for you to keep me.

And I don't want to start talking about you guys.

Ah, yes, just I was where people were gonna thought.

You're just mining there at the start without sound as.

And I could be my daughter.

Why?

Don't ask me to go a little.

They're gonna You covered.

It's probably she's at school watching life on her phone.

Right, Right, right, right.

Ah, you done this morning and thank you for having me back.

I'm doing really well.

This'd such a cool birth memory and nostalgia experience, huh?

You birth.

So coming back on the show, this is This is a real big highlight for mates.

I'm super Well, thank you.

Uh, yeah.

Before, before this, I meant to go back and re watch the whole video just to kind of remember what we talked about.

What would that mean?

That too.

I like watching myself on video.

You know, Drew, it would have been hurt.

I was making much up was that I was working on new stuff, so Ah, nothing.

The thing about it.

That was just that.

I I do remember.

I think I said it live.

I do remember.

That's ah, at the end of the video.

Remember saying like, we could have talked a bunch more because there we've got to, like, a small handful of things that I wanted to talk to you about and like, you had a whole bunch of interesting stories and stuff that you're sharing.

So I took lots a CZ, You know, they're sorry.

I'll try to stay on topic and keep it concise.

I've had a couple of years experience now, sir.

I'll do my best.

Well, I don't know.

It all works as long as interesting then and you had it like that.

You have been sharing a bunch of really cool and interesting stories about stuff from Japan.

But what I want to do in this video, because last time we talked the whole bunch about mostly because you're new to you too by the time we talked a lot about just like your time in Japan.

But I guess you know, I want to talk about basically your time since our last interview.

So basically like, sure, there's a single It's big.

It's being It's really been like a roller custom.

Uh, but, you know, mostly going up, But yes, three years.

I just went past my of my three anniversary, I think in the previous a couple of days ago, right?

Yeah.

Or my very first art books.

You know, opening video on YouTube.

It was really that Yes.

So much has happened.

It's being really, really good.

Mmm.

Mmm.

Mmm.

Yeah.

I said, yeah.

You just posted that the other day for the the video of the three year video.

So I thought, Yeah, it's a really good time to have our interview after just three years and talk a little bit about that.

You're pretty well experienced now, e.

I know it wasn't supposed to laugh right then, But create Is that what we've seen, right?

Oh, I experience now.

Yeah, but it's been good.

It's been really different going from the studio assigned to the to the creative side.

But, you know, worth it to really had a good And now, on the way back to the studio, you wanna talk about your plan?

It's how I've been on YouTube long enough to graduate from YouTube Uh, okay, I'm not.

And that was a judge.

Uh, just how did my structure this?

This is what I really struggle with.

I mean, don't worry.

What's gonna be the changes to your physical space?

Okay.

So exact knows a bit of the background to this previous three years have been worked really well.

It's been super successful, and I really think that YouTube platform for for being one of the key keep planes in helping me get my work seen on developing support eccentricity.

YouTube's been fantastic in that because the community thank you very much, guys, you guys have been absolutely phenomenal.

And that was the big change.

I had to go on being a studio owned modeler.

We call that all I've learned since then.

I can't call it professional modeling because that encompasses folks who to commission works exception, which is which is fine.

I have to say we're in the Japanese sentiment and they have just just to two terms.

There's okay, Jackson and Gil Sha and Jackson customers.

He's probably right near their customer.

And Gil Sha is when you cross that line going over to the industry side from vote in the industry.

Um, that was probably a good, uh, good way to explain it.

Better than saying professional model.

It's quite broad off in that I've been able to reestablish myself with my Japanese, my old, Uh, what?

What we call them.

They weren't partners.

They were overlords have been able to reestablish myself with them.

They've been quite surprised about it all that, you know, They expected me to fade off into into obscurity once around Australia.

But when I popped back up there with the whole Biekert team, right?

You know, they were really surprised that I like him.

You know that the word of mouth got around back to me.

They said, way had you're you're here, and you're some kind of big shot now.

Ah, What?

I just hope to God I ask that I dress well instead of so is dressed better on helping them tea things up.

Yet the right on YouTube has helped me to, you know, re establish connections, but from a different point of view, certain I'm working with the same Japanese companies now and helping them get the message out in English.

Now I see a big value in that too Who's that?

So that that's really cool off the YouTube has brought me back to be.

No, I said that.

I mean, uh, you know, excited and babbling again.

Sorry.

It's very exact.

The YouTube has helped me to get back to publishing.

Yeah, it wasn't the goal.

Um, beginning.

I thought, Wow, you're making making videos.

This sounds like a really good idea.

Oh, I really enjoy it.

I think it's It's a very powerful way to share content, um, certain types of content.

But as I got better at it, I could start to feel that there was some gaps in what I could share.

Mmm.

Actually, put time.

No, some of the model finishes that make a quite complex.

And I'm not very hard to fit into a 10 15 minute video.

S O.

Okay, maybe I need to start taking some more photos about photos by steps, which, of course, means, you know, publication.

And then when I started talking with the people that worked with in the past, um, I was pitching my idea of a book to them and accounted with a better offer.

They said, actually, we have this property, one of them has a has a flagship series of books.

We SciFi version yet our staff telling us you're the monkey to make this happen, huh?

And, uh, so So it's much bigger project in it.

And I was pitching them.

And of course, as you know, that'll be That'll be great.

So that's the the version.

Too long, Zach.

But that's where it's going.

It's going from learning videos, doing that and then coming back to team or industry side work again.

Oh, that will be starting to pump out with vision to from next year.

Mmm.

Is gonna like you?

Well, Very much.

Explain it.

Is this kind of like you?

You are, like, already a professional.

And then you went back to college to learn the basics and apply at work.

That kind of really, that's actually a really good one to explain it.

Thank you.

It's kind of cheese.

Like the master's degree.

Ah.

Of industries like modeling, isn't it because you learn a lot doing YouTube video?

I am I right?

I mean, you're the master at that ending.

Our congratulations on 100 came in in the play button.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I've got it.

Uh, in the box that I haven't found a good place to hang.

Well, I'm the good place.

I'm waiting on some stuff to gonna rearrange the space here, and then we'll find a good place for it.

But, uh, yeah, I was gonna say it was just that, I think.

Yet I've also wondered about myself about using the term professional because it's like there's different kinds of thing professionals.

But I think it's in your hand.

I would say it's totally fair to still use the term professional, but it's different than the type of professional that you were before you before you're a professional model.

Or now you're a professional content creator or just creative thinking that that's a really good way to think about it.

Thank you.

Ah, good.

To be honest, I prefer this version now.

I didn't think I would, but ah, having a little bit more self ownership being able to choose things.

It's more stressful, of course, because we we need to be right Bye.

Been having that?

Ah, a little bit more freedom of choice of AA rated content, for this is very cool.

Yeah, definitely.

It's definitely a double edged sword Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Wake up every morning.

Oh, it's just gonna be good or not.

Yeah, that's like all my all of my co workers in my school because, you know, I just recently quit being a teacher to do this full time.

Now that again, congratulations broke with the timing is actually very good for both of us, isn't it?

Works paying off congratulations and going through.

Oh, thank you.

Yeah, my all my coworkers.

And like, um, my wife's family and stuff like, Oh, we're so are so jealous of you.

You just have You could just enjoy your free time.

Now it's like, I'm not free now, like I'm working.

I'm working more now than I was, like, as a teacher.

And it's a lot or like, planning involved of like, now that I'm free, I can do anything that I won't have to choose.

Okay.

What am I gonna do specifically to maximize the time, so Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

It's a very, very different, uh, kind of feed the beast.

You can mention.

I hear it a lot.

Um, and then their fruit.

Different friends who mean Well, uh, do you most common one is up.

I wish I could get paid to paint models all day.

Yeah, course.

I'd like to say back to that.

So do I.

So would I.

I I would love that because it's a lot more, isn't it?

Yeah, of course.

In fact, the actual painting of the models is a small percentage of what I'm going to do, because it's the content production that I work, but that also, I think, to learn Yeah, and then trying to make a living and look at Burke doing it.

That's exciting.

Yeah.

Ah, well, it sze the struggle, but like, uh, like the person or people you're talking about, say, it's nice to be able to still just get paid to do your hobby, even if it involves a lot more than painting.

Writer worked with Anna if I can.

I was complete sense because I don't know how to explain it to myself yet, but I'm finally getting these that the fields back for what I do.

I don't want him because because I was so nervous in the 1st 3 years, I really felt the crushing pressure performing on, you know?

I know I'm not telling you anything.

You?

Yeah, but I think a letter.

It's video x video.

So I had that feeling.

So it was more focused on that production on getting what was just ready in time.

So it was more of a production process.

That's this full kit protected.

I'm working on now.

Well, I've had a little bit more time in treating to work on it.

I'm really feeling it.

It's like it's a feeling I've actually not had since.

About I'd say my best models.

I was making it about 2012.

Got ahead of area when Wendell Time that you spent this long on a model.

Yeah, that'd be about 2012.

And when I was making those models that made it into the greatest hits version off the Weathering magazine, Which one of them became iconic type of model.

So just okay, you know, she's taking some shots of it.