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  • Good morning, everyone.

  • Welcome to our annual International Women's Day event at Norman, Disney and Young.

  • It's fantastic toe.

  • Have you a ll here today?

  • My name is Joseph on on one of the directors here in the Melbourne office.

  • We traditionally do a welcome to country arrangement, as you might see quite commonly.

  • And today I would like to do something a little bit different than you might ordinarily safe the JJ along North show.

  • Anyone being there?

  • Yeah, fantastic place.

  • So you're asking yourself just why are you talking to me about JJ along North Shore?

  • Well, it's about 60 kilometers from where we are today.

  • And if you consider translating time into distance when you look at our indigenous nation that spends something like 60,000 years, 60,000 years in this nation, um, the time in this place has to be is very important.

  • And if you consider where we are for its festival hall, we didn't even Mike back straight in our time in this place.

  • So I think a little bit of a different white or flames on certainly custodians of this land.

  • So move on International Women's Day that celebrates the treatments of women, So that's fantastic.

  • It's a range of achievements social, economic, professional, cultural.

  • It's an action in celebrating gender equality.

  • I'll reflect on my own circumstance of what?

  • Three beautiful girls and my hopes and aspirations for my three bills.

  • Um, hi.

  • And if I think about my hopes and then what I see today that I'm actually a line.

  • There is a difference between what I hope for my three girls and what I see.

  • You know, society, particularly in the workplace, so that inspires May to do more.

  • I hope that residents with some of you, Endy Y, has done a lot of good stuff, certainly in racing use around pushing the gender equality matter forward.

  • Yes, we come from a very mild dominated industry.

  • We participated in a bunch of industry forms.

  • We've also implemented a bunch of policies and initiatives that really supporting our progress and that includes, from flexible working arrangements.

  • Mito agenda, Paige up, review it and they want where we drink genuinely looking whether we have pie gap issues and we fix it.

  • We also have a fairly well established diversity and inclusion program, so that's demonstrating progress around among a range of fronts, you know, Dana Agenda.

  • But I'd also acknowledge that at times we do file, and it's important that as an organization and his individuals we can recognize when we do file, acknowledge it on trying to deal with it and try again.

  • And then if we file what we try again.

  • So that's an ongoing journey for ever seen laws on that note.

  • It's important tonight that the workplace Gender Equality Agency has recognized in the wine what's only about 120 organizations across Australia?

  • Eso We've certainly hit that mark for the second year in a row as I employer of choice for gender equality.

  • So I think we should be as Indy why, proud of that achievement that we've been able to implement for the second year in a row, and we will continue to do that well, I think that we will only get better and for ass stuff that here you can actually look at submissions that support those applications.

  • So it's important that we continue on that journey and demonstrate that that's quite an achievement that we should be proud of.

  • It as a business is an organization.

  • We have an impressive panel here today to talk a bunch of interesting top ese.

  • So you're not gonna hear a whole lot more from me.

  • But I'm gonna welcome Sarah to the stage Markham's to introduce and facilitate that panel.

  • So welcome, Sarah.

  • Yeah.

  • Thanks, Joe.

  • For those of you who haven't met me before, my name is Sarah Dawson, and I'm the head of marking calms it, Indy.

  • Why?

  • I'm quite new in the role in this is a really great stop to martini here at N.

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  • And I'm really excited today to introduce three really exceptional women to our panel.

  • You know, talk about International Women's Day and what it actually means to them.

  • Um, but before we begin, I'd like to invite you to our panellists to introduce themselves about their career.

  • Joni's today s o.

  • Firstly, I'd like to introduce Carolyn Bonnie from his unity sentence.

  • Eso Caroline is actually the chief development officer.

  • It wasn't incentives.

  • It's a role.

  • She's held suits October 2016.

  • She has more 20 years experience in construction, property development in real estate investment.

  • I'm proud of joining this Unity Center's Carolyn was broke on which she held a number of senior roles, including CEO, deputy CEO and head of development.

  • Currently is an advisory board member to the Victorian government's Office of Projects Victoria and also the organization Women's Property Initiatives.

  • She's also a non executive director of the big issue Heist Our Homes and the Water and Lies.

  • A whole Institute of Medical research, apparently is a former president of the Victorian Division of Property Council of Victoria as I place join me in welcoming Caroline.

  • No.

  • All right, well, good morning, everyone.

  • Um, I might be gained by I think of slips and slides on the legend guy.

  • I begin by acknowledging the Tricia Linus of the land on which we make this morning in my respects to Elder is past and present.

  • Thank you, Indy.

  • Why?

  • And thank you for that warm welcome.

  • And happy international Women's Day.

  • Everybody, um, And if I can also acknowledge my delight Panelists Dr Rebecca Costs and Joanna I think the idea is that we get to know each other a little bit before we launch into what I'm sure is gonna be a great panel.

  • Discussion s o.

  • When I was thinking about that, apart from the formal CV reach.

  • Everyone wants to breed out at the beginning.

  • What else would I want you to know about May?

  • Well, my current role, a CZ there mentioned he's as chief development officer at the city centers.

  • I actually hate the title chief development officer.

  • I don't know why I can't just be the executive general manager development or something like that in a traditional way.

  • But we had a whole range of roles that changed about two years ago, where a range of my male peas into that with chief at the beginning of their title.

  • So they felt that I also needed to be a chief.

  • I would've been happy with the role of Total the white Walls, but it was a time from a good place anyway.

  • So this unity, the unity ease and I have six listed property company we own and manage about $26 billion worth off assets across the country.

  • The company is the merger between what waas, the Colonial first I rito fund trust for that gandal group on then the other part of the business and the assets come from federation centers in century.

  • The pedigree of both businesses is mostly retail.

  • But increasingly, we're very focused on a mixed use agenda, which is about looking at the potential about real estate and transforming those assets, which are largely a single or maybe even two story building, with three telling them in a sea of car parking, looking at that real estate and sighing what all the other things that we could do with that real estate in 2020 2030 2040 2050 on Fundamentally.

  • From my point of view, that means transforming what a traditional retail assets into right places.

  • Right places that people love that they want being and I want to connect with other people, involves a capital spending about $3 billion over the next three employees and introducing things like offices and hotels and residential service departments.

  • And you've seen it's do some of that stuff already.

  • A places like that blaming Bloom Waverly in the hotel in the office it Cheston and someone pride of assumes.

  • He spent 13 years at Grow Corn, and I know a lot of people in the room from my time there.

  • Various roles from in house counsel 32 Hit of development, deputy CEO and CEO Garcon is undoubtedly a very different uses today than it was vain butting any respect when I think about work on in my time there in the 50 years before that?

  • Um, it's undoubtedly nine full and best remembered for conceiving in delivering some of Melbourne industry's most memorable buildings, like Realtor in the M.

  • C J.

  • A meat pie in Eureka Tower in Melbourne.

  • Uh, Governor Phillip Talon one glass straight and that building in Sydney and the parallels to Queensland.

  • So I might add that nd why was a consultant on almost all of those buildings having settle that, uh, up again my career as a property lawyer working for me to Ellison a studied law, in part because I was accepted into the degree.

  • Ah, that'll sorry.

  • As an impressionable teenager, there was a show of showing my age now a great show on TV called L.

  • A Law, which depicted the life of a lawyer has by interesting and glamorous and the meaning of fame in the show I was sexy as hell.

  • And let me tell you, this was very different to my experience of me to Alison.

  • When I resigned at mentors, had a lot of fun there on Lancelot at the partner who works for me said, I'll Carol anything needed a job.

  • I would have hoped to get a proper job, which wasn't particularly inspirational on Monday when it broke on.

  • I wasn't sure at all that he hadn't got it entirely wrong.

  • I had completely underestimated the magnitude of the change of going from a T one more for him in the big tower in the city to a high profile but nevertheless private business, a za builder and developer.

  • And when my husband called me at lunchtime on Day one to see how the new gig was going, I really had to do all that I could not to actually cry, and I'm not really a cry out.

  • So that was saying something.

  • And that was from my desk in the tight confines of the side office that we had in Longstaff straight at Key V, uh, where my disk was literally situated directly outside the men's bathroom.

  • I did wonder what have I got myself into?

  • But um, by then and now, often reflected on the training that really great companies provide their stuff that these kind of organizations make a really big investment in there, but people in general and the young people in particular and end a wise my different.

  • I'm sure I'll certainly saw myself as a beneficiary of that training and investment.

  • Having said that, once I was the client, as opposed to just advising the client was always gonna be pretty hard for me to do anything else.

  • And it was really then that I began my lot of there with buildings.

  • More specifically, that my interest is in how people use buildings on the realization know what we'll do every day in the bilge form.

  • Spicy is super important and in fact really, really special.

  • That leaves a big mark on the cities in which we live and work.

  • And then we have it to ourselves and the future generations to make sure that what we leave behind is exceptional in all respects.

  • And that doesn't need to make expense people fancy, but rather that it's well considered fit for purpose and matches and hopefully exceeds the expectations of the people who were delivering those buildings.

  • That's one aspect of what I love about what I do.

  • On the other is the amazing terms of people who you get to work with a long way.

  • And in real estate, I think one of the best things is that none of these buildings have been, in fact without lots and lots of people across lots of organizations coming together and collaborate really well to put a project together and say it to live.

  • So a constant reminder of what people are capable of innovative thinking, extreme problem solving in just the hard ground of getting a project up and delivered, and also a reminder of how many wonderful professionals working now industry tough, sometimes brutal.

  • But I feel very lucky to have been a part of it.

  • Most days when I come to work, I don't think about being a woman.

  • That's not to say that one, but I haven't been heat on in a professional capacity.

  • I was young once to found myself feeling slightly uncomfortable when I'm literally the only female at a dinner table of 30 or 40 men.

  • Three, uh, back Wayne, having found myself feeling uncomfortable when on the only person I just south of 50 or four, for reasons that still aren't clear, found myself in meetings with my mail piece being from here to take the nights.

  • Most days I just focus on the job I have to do.

  • Projects are a big part of my role, but so, too, is keeping an eye and an ear.

  • Apathy, actions on behaviors off the people in my 19 and the broad of assumed the business if they run counter to each for equal and with age.

  • But lots of that now and experience better that to being prepared to call it out when I say it.

  • Thanks for listening.

  • Okay, thanks, Caroline next will interviews Doctor Big Cult Whose a sustainability professional Rebecca's a saying.

  • A sustaining sustainability, professional over 20 years experience, environment conservation, science, policy and management.

  • She's currently senior communications engagement advisor for the Victorian Commission for Environmental Sustainability, where she also the inaugural state of Victoria Sorry State of the Year in its park last 2018 report and how was the Victorian state of Environment?

  • 2018.

  • Report.

  • Rebecca has served as a board member of Central Crystal boards and has reputation her expert knowledge across sustainability stewardship decided 1,000,000,000 implementation that you ain't since signing development goals, and she holds a PhD in conservation, environmental management as a global executive.

  • It's a place.

  • Join me in welcoming back up.

  • Thanks very much for the lovely introduction because you can see I'm vertically challenged and I just need to push it down further.

  • Thank you, Indy Y and also Johnson for inviting me to speak today.

  • It's just wonderful to celebrate with everybody.

  • International Women's Day and also Caroline Angelina to share the panel with you today is also really exciting for me, too.

  • I'd also like to think the elders and emerging leaders off the coronation.

  • So where we are today, where the Yellow River, the Maranon never interested, Support for bag is really important place for the coronation.

  • This is an area where they came to get that to trade, to actually arrange marriages and was really important for their food and also economic prosperity.

  • And if you ever get an opportunity to go on country with elders, they'll share the cultural knowledge with you.

  • And what really resonates with me is that they don't look at environment, societal maids and economic prosperity.

  • Separately, it's actually a very tightly integrated knowledge, said, which we could learn a lot from when actually this approach is the foundation of what I want to talk to about.

  • Today.

  • I have a PowerPoint presentation of being a Sanchez to know that freaks A lot of people out there probably expect tables grass, and it's far too early on Friday morning to do that.

  • And I haven't had enough espressos to do that either.

  • So I'm not gonna do that to you.

  • Um, I just want to explain the connection of environmental sustainability is an independent and impartial office.

  • Dr.

  • Gillian Sparks is the commissioner, and she's wanted for tickets, and later she has a background actually in mining and Liszt, and she was elected by bipartisan support to be commissioner.

  • And this is her second to them, and we do a lot of the state off reporting.

  • So instead of the air instead of the environment, state of the forests and so on, it's quite an exciting office.

  • It's only eight of us, and we work in a very cross functional way to ensure that our reports have a little lunch.

  • Andare reports also get tabled in Parliament's with recommendations to which the minister for environment needs to respond to.

  • So it's not just doing reports for reports saying, but actually tried to change the system to improve What's Carol eight occurring?

  • So this being used things each for equal is very important.

  • And with my personal and sustainability lens, equality goes beyond gender.

  • For May, it goes to societal quality.

  • It means that no one should be living in poverty.

  • We should all have equal rights to education, to food, a place to live housing and to feel protected and safe.

  • It's also the year for sustainable development goals, call to action and just very quickly, has anyone heard or was seen about the SD?

  • Jeez.

  • Yep, one, few people.

  • Does anybody know what they are or how they implemented one person at the back of a person?

  • Right?

  • Fantastic.

  • So just to give a quick background, the sustainable development goals were created by the United Nations.

  • So it's a pre prosecuted framework and tool toe understand the interactions between society, economics, the natural environment, politics and also the judicial system as well.

  • I think it's a great framework and it's not a perfect framework, but I think it's a great frame it because you can start to see the interactions between these elements and how these actually play out in our society.

  • Specifically, you'll see that old number five is gender equality, which is to die thing.

  • And so therefore, sustainability and equality go hand in hand for May.

  • So I'm just gonna share with you briefly why I like this system's mindset to doing sustainability over the past 3 to 4 years with experience, quite a lot of drought which had contributed to the fire's that we saw over this summer season.

  • And I promised that as depressing as my presentation will bay.

  • But up until this summer, when you know things got quite real with climate change, when I used to tell people about what I do outside of the sustainability sector, I could see their body language changed a little bit, and they had this look come over the face.

  • And I knew that they were thinking this, that I just go around being hippie trust fund.

  • Baby was something dripping my much of almond milk latte eyes until you even want to have the environment.

  • And actually, quite a few times, people who would drink around with Mei would actually probably say, you just you just you just grainy And then this discussion got even more interesting when we dive deep into actually, what's my expertise?

  • And I'm actually a marine scientist and you could see that they saw what I did this all day.

  • So I just want to say that I don't actually need flotation devices to stand up water Onda Although yes, it would be lovely to work with dolphins all day.

  • Dolphins is just one species in a huge marine ecosystem in their charismatic spaces, and I understand the quite smart and social, but my interest goes L.

  • A bit more beyond just dolphins, and the reality of my job was more like This starts a bit blurry, but this is made diving in Port Phillip Bay in the middle of winter.

  • 18 meters down, it's nine degrees.

  • I'm wearing a seven mil wetsuit with a lot of lights to ST me down.

  • It's quite choppy.

  • At 7 a.m. And I had to do some counting and recording of data.

  • So in here, my hand, you'll see a really 200 meters in length.

  • What you do is you sit it out and then you swim along the length off that riel and one ain't made of each side.

  • You have a recording board, you have to take down which fish you see.

  • If you see lobsters, crabs set.

  • Sure, the tops of say ways, and you have to do that a few times up and down to ensure you got all the data.

  • You come up and then you have to take a break for a few minutes so you don't get the bends and then you get back here.

  • So buy me a day.

  • On that day, we had done three dives by lunchtime was called.

  • We were a little bit, you know, hypothermic by the time we got back to shore.

  • But it's a lot of fun, and through this role, it really taught me that we need to think about the natural environment in a systems mindset.

  • So in the marine environment, there's a lot of inputs carbon dioxide, oxygen, nitrogen, phosphorus, freshwater as well as the pollution's that we created humans.

  • The output, some things like fish, crabs, things that we eat.

  • Also, carbon absorption earn protection off coast from coastal erosion.

  • So it's really important to consider it important outputs and part of the system, and then also as a society.

  • How we interacting with that system, and how does that change all the processes?

  • So with the sustainability lanes, it's a circular process.

  • It's not a linear.

  • And how we impact that process will also mean how much is available to us in the future to eight, for protection and for for share.

  • And fresh water service is, and I think, to be a sustainability laid out.

  • You need to have that systems mindset.

  • A lot of scientists dive deep into the Passion project area, which is great, but they have a difficult time in a maintenance respectfully coming back up.

  • Um, and that's sort of what I bring to the table.

  • Um, as a Marine scientists to this quite quite often, in a lot of times where I've been the only female in the dive boat so similar to what care When you were saying they only seem out the dinner table Once down in Tasmania, how did you afford a dive off the coast of Mariah Island to duel, hoping should data collection and I was the only female, but it actually I didn't think about it until the head of the Dive Research Project came up to me and said, You may not want to come out on top on top of the deck out first thing in the morning And I was like, Why?

  • And he said, Oh, you know, the guys just smart, you know, be, you know, using the ocean to do things.

  • And I'm like, Okay, just don't ask questions.

  • Just stayed in my cabin until a little bit later on in the morning.

  • So yeah, I just for May as well.

  • I don't think that I'm the only thing now there.

  • I just feel like I'm part of the group and part of the conversation.

  • I also want to debunk the means that sustainability is purely just about the natural environment.

  • It actually is how economics, social values and the natural environment interact together, and it's very much a long term view.

  • So where does this all come together?

  • So if I apply the Esther Jeez, Frank went to my thinking into the work that I do and specifically to gender equality.

  • There are different elements.

  • So for gender equality itself, yes, it's an important element in his aspects to it that we need to improve things that we're doing well, but it can be improved.

  • But also there's other elements that will influence whether we get to gender equality and of second, a few of these on behind me.

  • So it's things like quality education, no poverty, ensuring good health and well being, and also opportunities for women in the workplace to through decent work and economic growth.

  • And so you can see that ginger quality does have is influenced by another other inputs but also has a lot of outputs true, that can benefit system or itchy.

  • So I personally think that a society we have the power to create the change.

  • Um, even though I work in government, I don't think we need to wait the government to have those incentives for us to create that change.

  • And I think we also need to move away from having a conversation that's in binary opposition to each other.

  • It's the space in the middle where the solutions come, and I think having those open and transparent conversations and middle well actually allow us to move towards cried a ginger equality and also equality.

  • Just generally thank you very much.

  • Okay, thanks for bigger and lastly and certainly not laced.

  • I'd like to introduce that our very own You're Hannah.

  • Trick it.

  • You're Hannah is, I guess, the sustainability superstar in our minds.

  • Anyway, she's got a diverse background is that we're all such as architecture, sustainability and used a consulting, Uh, this range of design and engineering and stakeholder engagement experience informs every project she works on.

  • And we're really excited to have her on outing that during your 14 years of local and international industry experience, you're Hannah has developed a keen eye for design into sustainability solutions.

  • She's a certified passive house designer and director for partnerships with the Australian Passing House Association with a great passion to establish his world leading energy performance and indoor comfort standing in Australia.

  • So please join me in welcoming Good morning, everyone.

  • Wrong direction.

  • Okay, so each were equal.

  • While we're actually here, I have to admit, when I was first asked to talk today, I didn't feel particularly comfortable about it.

  • And it's not because I don't like presenting or talking.

  • Actually talk a lot, and I really enjoyed a Typically, I talk about building physics, you know, that's my topic.

  • Gender equality is not quite my topic, and I have to say it's also a bit of a tender topic, especially as a woman talking about it.

  • And as a woman, it feels like Look at May.

  • I'm sorry, disadvantaged.

  • You know, it's really uncomfortable.

  • But equally it could also mean Look at May I've done so amazing despite being disadvantaged, and the reality is none of those are applicable to May.

  • And the other thing I think you Rebecca, touched on it.

  • You know, talking about gender equality is a woman.

  • You quite easily are being perceived as being a feminist and activist, which I'm not.

  • But it's you said, is the sustainability consultant.

  • I mean, let's face it, we're seen as being tree huggers and activists anyway, so I thought I made where talk about, you know, gender equality, a swell.

  • So bring it on.

  • My personal story starts with the triple F factor, and I came up with the triple effect er well, maybe 10 years ago, when I was talking to my husband one evening, I was complaining to him about a situation at work I wasn't happy about, and I said to him, No wonder, because I have got the triple F defector and he looked at me.

  • What's the triple effect?

  • And I think, you know, can I just made it up.

  • But let's face it, I'm famous.

  • I'm foreign and I'm in my fertile years.

  • So let me tell you what the triple effect er actually means.

  • So being female in a male dominated industry which the building construction industry ease sometimes feels like being an exchange student in a foreign country, you know, you look different.

  • You speak different behavior different.

  • And, you know, no matter how hard you try, you just don't fit in talking about foreign.

  • Some German Benny for 15 years.

  • And I still remember the day when I said goodbye to my parents at the airport, and my handed made this very heavy victory thing.

  • Good luck.

  • Thank you.

  • So I have to say languages never was my 40 at school.

  • I had outside.

  • And, um, you know, other skills.

  • So 15 years on, um, you know, living in Melbourne as a foreigner yet being German.

  • Although most people think I'm South African, I guess I, uh I I Ste walk around with this accent and I still have my moments where someone may present.

  • You know, Kal Oculus and and think it's really funny and I just don't get it.

  • Sorry.

  • You know, I didn't grow up here.

  • It's that's what it is.

  • And the last F is I'm in my photo years.

  • So I've got two beautiful Children.

  • The edge 57 And I think most of you would agree here in the rumored combining family life and work, life is sometimes a struggle.

  • It's not easy how you know her.

  • Know her number.

  • You know you can try so hard.

  • Do you want to be a perfect employee here?

  • You want to be the perfect mother, but the reality is you'll never get there.

  • You know the project performance is just not good enough.

  • Dinner is yak.

  • I'm not eating that.

  • So you know, I'm trying really hard, but I just don't fit in.

  • And their money.

  • More letters?

  • No.

  • Got three efforts.

  • But there's also an A and, um, thank you.

  • So you mentioned I'm actually come from the architecture disciplines.

  • I studied architecture, worked is an architect.

  • For about seven years before I decided I'd like to go into sustainability and did a master's degree and climate engineering and I came back to Melbourne and was looking for a job in the response.

  • I got Waas.

  • But you're an architect.

  • It's got nothing to do with sustainability.

  • What do you mean?

  • We need mechanical engineers, the other ones who are saving our planet.

  • So I mean, we're talking here 10 years ago.

  • I'd like to think things changed.

  • So there's the trip elasticity?

  • A.

  • There's also a piece.

  • I also work for some time in the planning field, and that, I guess, was a little bit of a detour until the industry matured.

  • And there's finally space for people with a design background in the sustainability space.

  • So coming back to my triple EFS did I have what it takes to have a successful career in the engineering industry?

  • No, definitely not on two.

  • I found this.

  • I came across this quote.

  • Why?

  • Why fit in if you can stand out as a graffiti at South Yarra Station and I still remember that day was actually a beautiful moment when I realized Hang on, we actually no longer in the Stone Age, you know, in the Stone Age, it was really critical to fit in because fitting in meant survivor.

  • Where's where we are today?

  • I guess diversities not celebrated difference is amazing there.

  • Sorry.

  • Important.

  • So I realized I really need to embrace my differences rather than hiding them.

  • So you have.

  • How if these differences worked for May.

  • So I mentioned I'm an architect.

  • So I guess that means I can bring design solutions rather than just technical technical fixes to the table.

  • I've got a planning background that that means I can navigate approve.

  • Its process is pretty well.

  • I know what it's like to be on the other side.

  • I'm German.

  • I've got a strong connection to Germany, to the European building in the straight.

  • That's off great advantage if you work in the sustainability spice and I'm a mother, which taught me a lot of patients, a lot of tolerance and a lot of efficiency, and all of that is extremely important in the work space.

  • So I'd like to say I I've come to peace with being different.

  • It's actually an opportunity, not a disadvantage anymore.

  • So I've spoken a lot about differences.

  • I've spoken about diversity in our workforce, in our society, and I think you'd all agree with me that diversity is effect.

  • We don't even do bite it anymore.

  • But what about equality is that effect?

  • What do you think?

  • I don't think it is.

  • Not yet.

  • At least not when we look at it globally.

  • I'd like to guess Leave you with that message that diversity is effect.

  • But equality is a choice.

  • And I'd like to encourage your, um, making the right choices for yourselves.

  • That also for others.

  • Thank you.

  • Thanks.

  • You, Hannah.

  • Well, I think we're ready for a really interesting discussion with three Panelists this morning.

  • I'm officially I just introduced that the same.

  • Really?

  • She is International Women's Day to give a bit of context to a panel discussion s o the 2020 same is torn from the notion of collective individual is, um so we're all parts of a whole.

  • We all have individual actions and conversations and behaviors and mindsets that impact on society as a whole.

  • Um so collectively, we can actually make change happen, And mechanics helped create agenda equal wells andi countries to challenge those serious hearts and fight bias, broadened perceptions, improve situations, and celebrate women's achievements together.

  • Um, and this actually brings me Thio for his question of mourning given me.

  • She's seen on dhe highlighting the world is in the naval world.

  • What does this actually mean to you want to the same of the 2020 international women's I made th you check him, having worked out this morning to stories about ties that incident in a supermarket in Sydney, The toilet rolls, uh, human behavior aims embracing each other and their respective strengths and how we combine those things to do really, really good beans as it applies to you creating these elements explosiveness and difference.

  • I just think we might seems way too complicated and way too hard in the concept of us all treating each other the way we treated ourselves just cannot better that people can't get around that just Phoebe most powerful about something that we could may.

  • It's about helping out this up.

  • So I've been mentoring Youngmin the past 10 years across governments, academia, private sector, who would improve the sustainability of the ship skills and may each equals allowing those women to step up and feel confident within the cells on challenge themselves, going for the next step and and just to be heard as well It's amazing when I speak to a lot of young women that they have a lack of confidence, not sure had a network and make people.

  • So it's about helping others thio so that they can stop, step up right about themselves.

  • But also be great like this, too.

  • Sorry, cities look, I've been reflecting on it a lot, each for equal.

  • Maybe again.

  • It's money come from foreign background.

  • I think about individual words and you're thinking about equality, differences and diversity.

  • And how does it get?

  • No doubt the quality is extremely that, you know.

  • But I guess the big question is, how do we achieve equality Spot?

  • I just wanted to emphasize that it's really important to Thio to believe that it's possible that we can be you mentioned that you mental women in your career.

  • Um, and I think it's more innovation in the construction industry.

  • Indy wine and others United ST way struggled toe, attract women and get out fish here.

  • The available women in the industry.

  • Uh, so if we sit back and reflect, hadn't actually encourage more women and bills to step into our industry and make it in Korea, Great question.

  • So I do mentoring formally through the Innis mentoring program, but also inform what informally Young, which is made for assistance on DDE.

  • What I found through the this mentoring program is that we don't encourage the young women at high school in primary school age to consider science engineering.

  • We'll stand subject subjects anyway as a career cop forward on dhe.

  • The in this program you can Google decision to.

  • The Academy of Science and Technology is trying to shift that through having incursions at a range of schools across Australia to encourage young girls into coding engineering, medicine, science, united chemistry to increase levels of women in science.

  • And it's an actual fact globally.

  • There are less women signs understand, then men.

  • So any should that provide the educational opportunities for young girls globally?

  • And have you found time?

  • Well, yeah, I absolutely agree with that.

  • But the other thing I would say he's the baby degrees into property construction have been in the 50 50 today in tight for about 10 years.

  • So small people doing the degree and it's not people finding a role.

  • Holm graduating into the industry.

  • It's the retention right, and if we could 50% with you actually come, we wouldn't have the problem that we have now.

  • So it's actually at an employment level, a promotion level and talent teaching little where the industry has a problem that wanting to dull down what's really good conversation.

  • All those employees, very mean to have it, could have a talk about what they're doing to the environment.

  • To have those women do all the work of getting great, getting a job and then leave because they actually going to work somewhere else in different industries.

  • They're not gonna be like in some way.

  • It actually with somewhere else, probably can't be the whole way they got that.

  • So it's we need more.

  • But once we got them, we're gonna have to take them just to enter.

  • That would agree with you.

  • It's about supporting.

  • Women like to be able to look up to their Children when they're that age, or even the parents at that age.

  • But equally it's also supporting, then allow them to take that long.

  • Looking after Children and looking after parents might be a little hard because they, their husbands do not have flexibility to work, produced ours, too, so it needs to be changes in the government sitting trying improve that.

  • So last week the gender equity bill was passed in Apartment 20 parliaments.

  • So it's trying to address all the issues that you just raised you.

  • And I know I have a friend who drop shares to see you go with another woman.

  • So it's actually thinking when I was talking about before, thinking in that great space in between the final position.

  • It's what different possibilities are available for both men and women or anyone in the gender section in organizations, so that they can be appearance on dhe government of guys get at least six weeks off.

  • Parentally.

  • But why don't I hold you just like a woman?

  • Oh, you know anyone on the gender spectrum as well, So I think it's about thinking about those solutions and wise that we can ensure that anyone has a job in the future.

  • So how have each of you manage your progressions in your careers and a CZ?

  • We get older and our lives outside of work have a greater impact on works or whether it's Children or aging parents.

  • How do you actually manage that?

  • And still maintain a high level Korea.

  • Well, I actually like how you dress you probably not doing both 100%.

  • I think that you might have to make sacrifices in either home or work.

  • How do we find that balance had away?

  • Is employer help Pathe style?

  • Find that balance themselves?

  • I had a plan.

  • Every plane and off sort of bounds my way into different means.

  • Certainly preparation that I had a car not may applying but the business.

  • Recognizing this suited to other things or have more potential on, I've been lucky that they were that I had someone who was watching.

  • So no, I'm not casing point of what to do it.

  • It's a little bit of pocket back.

  • You have a plan for the beans, but I actually get a really human little that my ste good people should.

  • I really should only way with people.

  • I actually I'm interested in the people that work with being happy, so being really, really speak about what your expectations are yourself.

  • But what treatments are outside of work.

  • He's really a Z in a very bicycle that our daughter is 12.

  • All right, back to work when she was four months old.

  • My husband had someone seven slave.

  • He took bashed in one of the basic.

  • We have a deeper bank, very equal parents thing that first week, five times dying to talk about where stuff Woz and I think by that fool just little was hideously embarrassing that he had to ring me about face by see things, and then it became very independent.

  • Just doesn't matter what happens on the court opinion, which was sort of funny.

  • And that's But at that time I remember getting fine, having a bit of working the guilt about being my light or troubled me to stay in all that stuff.

  • And the result of that was Alma not set on.

  • Fire me, Mildred.

  • And it's the witching hour bath.

  • Fine, be ringing.

  • And it was really hard not to answer it because you wanted to be available to everybody, but you actually can't be available to everyone.

  • And so I was really almost people.

  • You know what?

  • Actually, just but mine.

  • But only in the bomb.

  • Can I call you back now?

  • This is my wife says to you.

  • No, I actually need to talk to you right now.

  • you showed up.

  • Disaster and I'ma give content just being really honest.

  • What have you got on today?

  • What's up with weight gains can do whatever in outlining people that other things going on with information most people are capable of making the president's If you're holding back from people, they formed their own conclusions about what a cruel should be doing, and that's putting yourself and then really disappointed to decide whether it's put a child in the bath.

  • So I really need to talk to you now or my mom's unwell mentally, really today, that's all.

  • You don't need to make it as hard as we do.

  • He said that there are some people out there who are good people and you shouldn't great.

  • So from an organizational perspective, sitting that expectation will the boundaries around where personal life.

  • But I think those boundaries blurring.

  • Tom goes on that way.

  • We're needing to be available 24 7 So I had a H u record you hunted.

  • How do you sit boundaries.

  • Sorry that that you maintain that work life balance, but you're still focused on your career and your super Grayson and hitting the Raj erection so I never had with felons.

  • I just with some very, very aspirational.

  • So I go hit, hit into everything.

  • And I do, Um, example is my parents see I did my PhD part time.

  • Does he have a scholarship?

  • And I went to other part time jobs at the same time as a Marine scientist, and there was absolutely no balance, and I went out another pretty, quite a bad way what that does to your body, mentally and physically.

  • But I even though I like that listen, I'm still going to change, and it's actually not until this year that I have actually stopped and looked after my health.

  • So what I do is I turned my screens up like a M 89 and just have time out for myself with my husband just talking about beings or reading books, whatever my thing.

  • So I think that's really healthy and something that I'm trying to do more and more in terms off the workplace.

  • I worked with a lot of millennials, and that's a positive thing.

  • It's not a negative thing, and what I'm actually observing is that the Millennials actually set boundaries for themselves about how they want to work and when they want to work, one of the guys I work with, he only wants to work four days a week because he wants to be a dad.

  • That's right.

  • And we fully support that.

  • Another millennial that I work with she's really clear about.

  • She doesn't want to be contacted office certain hours, and that's okay.

  • So I think there's a lot of things that I can win for the younger generation about sitting bounds rings.

  • Um, and I'm slowly interesting.

  • Yes, the second.

  • Valerie Look it it It's a difficult one, No doubt.

  • I think technology is a curse and a blessing at the same time.

  • It's a blessing that we can being Skype calls while trying while driving the car while making breakfast in the morning.

  • But yet it's occurs.

  • That's why, because these kind of thinking that you need to be available 24 7 it's a difficult one.

  • Sorry, I can't do that.

  • So I think we have a conversation you think I would and picking up a couple of those things.

  • I think now, more than ever, we have much more freedom to design for ourselves.

  • What success will play that I d the past generations, being successful men that you do, Please don't do that.

  • Then you got married when you bought a house that you have been so many different ways that we all leave.

  • And there's much more respect in thinking tolerance for that.

  • It's not a big for writing that we've talked about.

  • But I think if you could be clean in your mind about what the successful you are one of the things you want to do with your time.

  • You told him about the time that we have on the planet, um, setting that up and then making decisions through that family.

  • And that's not to say that what success looks like now it's the same as what success is.

  • A little continues time, but we should definitely not fall into the trap.

  • That success for that person needs to be a success for May.

  • So there are people to your point.

  • I wanna wait four days a week like sacrifices that we typically around remuneration in some plants around progression.

  • But if that's what success is a lot for that person and while we decided it should be different, yeah, I agree with that.

  • I think I'm high expectations of myself.

  • I have to stop catch myself to realize that happens don't have the same expectations, have been sensitized it for myself.

  • And when you come to that realization and respect that I feel like so it's about accepting.

  • I think you mentioned before your speech about accepting the diverse city.

  • It's not just the cultural diversity.

  • With diversity of four approaches to cruel, he is in progression as well, for more progression.

  • Great point.

  • And I'm not not.

  • I might actually throw to the floor and see if we got any questions.

  • Momentum.

  • All right, She's, I think, increasingly, what we'll say.

  • He's fist equated clients looking more and more supply chime really balling Say this is home and have it be senses around.

  • So sorry whether it's in its government.

  • Later, Mama level thehe man of indigenous Fontaine, 15 games and products will get to a stage where everything is being midget.

  • Sorry, agenda are the diversity mental health programs all that kind of qualitative factors around?

  • What's the total annihilation?

  • You really all of it will be looked at in a much more forensic.

  • Why, as we move forward, has been in the past.

  • It's really shining a light on um, you want to pop a week?

  • And I think that's everything to the extent that these things that they looked that talked about, it's kind of final lab toe sort of prosperity in a really bad way.

  • But once we start concentrating on that and sophisticated looking three guys with things will be different bikers on it.

  • Unfortunately, unless we actually measure these things that I tend to get managed in corporate large birds when that starts, to which he's taking off, the banks are under a lot of we're all all the right reasons under a lot of pressure to explain why they were wanting organizations.

  • While they should have a social law since to operate, using the old violation right three to where they bind service is for my disease.

  • That will start to come through destroying companies as well.

  • From a procurement point of view from government.

  • It's exactly what Caroline just mentioned.

  • We look at Silvestre bodies who indigenous backgrounds, ensuring that business golden slavery going on.

  • What's the diversity of gender equity in that organization?

  • What's the supply chain?

  • What if the sustainability values and ethics of that organizations.

  • All these elements are now coming into the perp.

  • You much approaches in government on.

  • We have very, very strict policies around them.

  • Any other questions?

  • Thank you.

  • Welcome, prospect in search.

  • I come here to close this morning and thank you Have three Panelists.

  • Caroline Johanna.

  • So today he's just one guy way.

  • We stop and reflect.

  • It's one day what we do.

  • Go forward, that is.

  • But please take this time to enjoy it.

  • We have going to your paper on plenty of food, so thank you very much.

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