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  • -You are a millennial mayor

  • of a town in Indiana, South Bend.

  • And you're very popular, it would seem, by most polls,

  • but also, I think, people maybe living in New York

  • or across the country don't realize

  • that's a very diverse city that you represent.

  • -Yeah. -You've had some successes.

  • You've also had some issues with poverty, homelessness.

  • -Yeah. -What part of being a mayor

  • do you think is -- will sort of impose itself

  • on being the job of president the most?

  • -Well, I think what you learn when you're a mayor

  • is that your job is not only to come up with good policies,

  • also to run an administration capably,

  • but also just to hold people together

  • and to make sure that you're calling people

  • to their highest values.

  • I think that might be the part that we're most missing

  • in the White House right now.

  • And if we want to deal with our toughest issues,

  • we have to have that attitude.

  • So, in a place like South Bend,

  • still a largely low-income community

  • because of the departure of the auto industry

  • that started in the '60s,

  • we've been able to reduce poverty,

  • we've been able to put a lot of resources

  • into dealing with things like homelessness.

  • But you can't pretend that those problems have just gone away.

  • And I guess, you know, at the national level, you know,

  • the president thinks that when there's a problem,

  • you can just say the opposite and will it away,

  • whether it's North Korea or whether it's a domestic issue.

  • But when you're in a community, there are no alternative facts.

  • If there's a problem that persists from a hole in the road

  • to a homelessness issue,

  • you have to just continue calling people together

  • to work on it with you until it gets better.

  • -I wanted to ask about this, as well.

  • During your announcement,

  • you were onstage with your husband, Chasten.

  • And this must have been -- [ Cheers and applause ]

  • I mean, this is an incredible moment for anyone.

  • For anyone to be with their partner on that day

  • must be a special moment, but to think that

  • only four years ago, gay marriage was not legal,

  • did that day have a special,

  • even added element, to it for you?

  • -Yeah. If nothing else, it's just a reason to believe.

  • Even at this dark and complicated and bleak moment

  • in American politics, it's a reason to be hopeful.

  • I mean, running for office is an act of hope.

  • You don't do it unless you believe

  • that it's at least possible,

  • using all of the mechanics of the political system

  • to make better things happen.

  • And as somebody whose marriage exists

  • because nine women and men sat and took a vote,

  • and by the grace of one vote, we get to be married now.

  • I understand how the decisions that are made

  • in those big white buildings really affect our lives.

  • The idea that at the beginning of this decade, I had a choice.

  • I could either be out or I could be in the military.

  • I could either be out or I could run for elected office.

  • At least that's how I viewed it at the time.

  • And the idea that just a few years later,

  • I announced a campaign for the American presidency,

  • and my husband comes out on the stage to be with me

  • after I do it, just shows you what's possible in this country.

  • -It was a wonderful thing to watch.

  • [ Cheers and applause ]

  • This is mind-blowing to me. You --

  • You are the youngest person, as of now,

  • running for president, but more people are joining every day,

  • so don't... -You never know.

  • -Yeah, don't think you've got that one for life.

  • Also, Bernie Sanders is the oldest person

  • currently running for president.

  • When you were 18 years old,

  • you won an essay in 2000, writing about Bernie Sanders.

  • -Yes. -And there you wore --

  • That's a -- I would call that a high school cut.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -Thank you for sharing that photo with the American people.

  • I really appreciate that. [ Laughter ]

  • -But it must be surreal to you now to --

  • Obviously, Bernie was someone who was influential to you

  • back then, to be sort of in the same sphere as him now.

  • -Yeah. I mean, I wrote that essay --

  • I feel like someone who claims to have discovered

  • a band before they were cool. [ Laughter ]

  • He was an obscure Congressman from Vermont,

  • and I just thought there was something really compelling

  • about the way he said what he believed at a time

  • when it didn't feel like we had a lot of that in politics.

  • So I wrote it up, and I won that essay contest.

  • It is a little strange to be competing with him now,

  • but frankly, a lot of the people I'm competing with

  • are people I admire. I'm not --

  • I don't view this process right now as having opponents

  • as much as it has competitors.

  • And we can have a lot in common, at the same time,

  • have rather different messages

  • and be very different messengers.

  • -My favorite thing about it is,

  • it sounds like a way he could burn you.

  • Like, "I was a congressman

  • when you were writing essays about me!"

  • [ Laughter and applause ]

  • That would probably be the way he would say it

  • if he also was being nice about it.

  • [ Both laugh ]

  • This is a photo that went around.

  • Again, you're running for president,

  • but you're still doing your duties as mayor.

  • Tell us what's happening in this photo right here.

  • -Oh, yeah. This is a really fun one.

  • So, I got to the office early, which is rare.

  • I was knocking out some work.

  • I stepped out into the hallway to use the bathroom,

  • and the elevator opened, and this couple turned up

  • and said, "Mayor!" This is exactly

  • the kind of moment that my staff tries to avoid, right?

  • That I'm alone, you know,

  • interacting with people accosting me, wanting something.

  • But, like, when you're mayor,

  • you have to have time for everybody.

  • -Sure. -And, you know,

  • I was trying to be polite by letting them know

  • I didn't have a lot of time,

  • and then they explained why they were there.

  • She was on her way to get a C-section at 9:00.

  • This must've been about 8:15.

  • And she said, "I want to tell mom all the news at once,

  • so we were wondering if you could marry us."

  • -Wow. -So, I thought,

  • "Wait. I can make time for that."

  • [ Laughter ]

  • So we came into the office.

  • I found a staff member who found some ribbon.

  • They hadn't had time to get a ring,

  • so we took ribbon and made a little --

  • made little rings out of it, and I knocked out, you know,

  • "By the powers vested in me, by the state of Indiana..."

  • knocked out the wedding in about 20 minutes,

  • and then sent them on their way to the hospital.

  • And later, we got a picture of them with a really healthy kid,

  • and we're just so happy for them.

  • -That's fantastic. [ Cheers and applause ]

  • I also like -- I like that an Indiana mayor's office

  • does look like the set of "Parks and Recreation."

  • [ Laughter ] I do -- I do enjoy that.

  • Definitely, he's wearing Andy costume right there.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Hey, everybody, that's mayor Pete Buttigieg.

-You are a millennial mayor

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