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NEWS THAN ANY OTHER NEWS ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD.
ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD. >>> TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME
>>> TODAY FOR THE FIRST TIME OUSTED U.S. AMBASSADOR MARIE
OUSTED U.S. AMBASSADOR MARIE YOVANOVITCH TOLD HER SIDE OF THE
YOVANOVITCH TOLD HER SIDE OF THE STORY PUBLICLY.
STORY PUBLICLY. LAWMAKERS AND LEGAL COUNSEL BOTH
LAWMAKERS AND LEGAL COUNSEL BOTH SIDES ATTEMPTED TO PAINT A
SIDES ATTEMPTED TO PAINT A PICTURE.
PICTURE. >> GETTING RID OF AMBASSADOR
>> GETTING RID OF AMBASSADOR YOVANOVITCH HELPED SET THE STAGE
YOVANOVITCH HELPED SET THE STAGE FOR AN IRREGULAR CHANNEL THAT
FOR AN IRREGULAR CHANNEL THAT COULD SET THE PRECEDENT FOR TWO
COULD SET THE PRECEDENT FOR TWO PRESIDENTS.
PRESIDENTS. THE 2016 CONSPIRACY THEORY AND,
THE 2016 CONSPIRACY THEORY AND, MOST IMPORTANT, AN INVESTIGATION
MOST IMPORTANT, AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE 2020 POLITICAL OPPONENT
INTO THE 2020 POLITICAL OPPONENT HE APPARENTLY FEARED MOST, JOE
HE APPARENTLY FEARED MOST, JOE BIDEN.
BIDEN. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT THEIR
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EXPECT THEIR PRESIDENT TO USE THE AUTHORITY
PRESIDENT TO USE THE AUTHORITY THEY GRANT HIM IN THE SERVICE OF
THEY GRANT HIM IN THE SERVICE OF THE NATION, NOT TO DESTROY
THE NATION, NOT TO DESTROY OTHERS BUT TO ADVANCE HIS
OTHERS BUT TO ADVANCE HIS PERSONAL OR POLITICAL INTERESTS.
PERSONAL OR POLITICAL INTERESTS. IN FACT, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
IN FACT, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN VOWING TO OUST PRESIDENT TRUMP
VOWING TO OUST PRESIDENT TRUMP SINCE THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED.
SINCE THE DAY HE WAS ELECTED. SO AMERICANS CAN RIGHTLY SUSPECT
SO AMERICANS CAN RIGHTLY SUSPECT THAT HIS PHONE CALL WITH
THAT HIS PHONE CALL WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WAS USED AS
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY WAS USED AS AN EXCUSE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO
AN EXCUSE FOR THE DEMOCRATS TO FULFILL THEIR WATERGATE
FULFILL THEIR WATERGATE FANTASIES.
FANTASIES. >> LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, I ENTERED
>> LIKE MY COLLEAGUES, I ENTERED THE FOREIGN SERVICE
THE FOREIGN SERVICE UNDERSTANDING THAT MY JOB WAS TO
UNDERSTANDING THAT MY JOB WAS TO IMPLEMENT THE FOREIGN POLICY
IMPLEMENT THE FOREIGN POLICY INTERESTS OF THIS NATION AS
INTERESTS OF THIS NATION AS DEFINED BY THE PRESIDENT AND
DEFINED BY THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS AND TO DO SO REGARDLESS
CONGRESS AND TO DO SO REGARDLESS OF WHICH PERSON OR PARTY WAS IN
OF WHICH PERSON OR PARTY WAS IN POWER.
POWER. I HAVE NO AGENDA OTHER THAN TO
I HAVE NO AGENDA OTHER THAN TO PURSUE OUR STATE THE FOREIGN
PURSUE OUR STATE THE FOREIGN POLICY GOALS.
POLICY GOALS. THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID NOT
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID NOT ASK ME TO HELP THE CLINTON
ASK ME TO HELP THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN OR HARM THE TRUMP
CAMPAIGN OR HARM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, NOR WOULD I HAVE TAKEN
CAMPAIGN, NOR WOULD I HAVE TAKEN ANY SUCH STEPS IF THEY HAD.
ANY SUCH STEPS IF THEY HAD. PARTNER
PARTNER PARTISANSHIP OF THIS TYPE IS NOT
PARTISANSHIP OF THIS TYPE IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH A CAREER FOREIGN
COMPATIBLE WITH A CAREER FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER.
SERVICE OFFICER. WITH RESPECT TO MAYOR GIULIANI,
WITH RESPECT TO MAYOR GIULIANI, I HAVE ONLY HAD MINIMUM CONTACT
I HAVE ONLY HAD MINIMUM CONTACT WITH HIM, A TOTAL OF THREE.
WITH HIM, A TOTAL OF THREE. NONE RELATED TO THE EVENTS AT
NONE RELATED TO THE EVENTS AT ISSUE.
ISSUE. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MR. GIULIANI'S MOTIVES FOR
MR. GIULIANI'S MOTIVES FOR ATTACKING ME NOR I CAN OFFER AN
ATTACKING ME NOR I CAN OFFER AN OPINION ON WHETHER HE BELIEVES
OPINION ON WHETHER HE BELIEVES THE ALLEGATIONS HE SPREAD ABOUT
THE ALLEGATIONS HE SPREAD ABOUT ME.
ME. CLEARLY NO ONE AT THE STATE
CLEARLY NO ONE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT DID.
DEPARTMENT DID. WHAT I CAN SAY IS MR. GIULIANI
WHAT I CAN SAY IS MR. GIULIANI SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THOSE CLAIMS
SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THOSE CLAIMS WERE SUSPECT COMING AS THEY
WERE SUSPECT COMING AS THEY REPORTEDLY DID COMING FROM
REPORTEDLY DID COMING FROM QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONABLE
QUESTIONS WITH QUESTIONABLE MOTIVES AND REASONS TO BELIEVE
MOTIVES AND REASONS TO BELIEVE THEIR POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL
THEIR POLITICAL AND FINANCIAL AMBITIONS WOULD BE STYMIED BY
AMBITIONS WOULD BE STYMIED BY OUR ANTI-CORRUPTION POLICY IN
OUR ANTI-CORRUPTION POLICY IN UKRAINE.
UKRAINE. OUR UKRAINE POLICY HAS BEEN
OUR UKRAINE POLICY HAS BEEN THROWN INTO DISARRAY AND SHADY
THROWN INTO DISARRAY AND SHADY INTERESTS THE WORLD OVER HAVE
INTERESTS THE WORLD OVER HAVE LEARNED HOW LITTLE IT TAKES TO
LEARNED HOW LITTLE IT TAKES TO REMOVE AN AMERICAN AMBASSADOR
REMOVE AN AMERICAN AMBASSADOR WHO DOES NOT GIVE THEM WHAT THEY
WHO DOES NOT GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.
WANT. >> DID ANYONE AT THE STATE
>> DID ANYONE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT EVER EXPRESS CONCERNS
DEPARTMENT EVER EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR JOB PERFORMANCE?
ABOUT YOUR JOB PERFORMANCE? >> NO.
>> NO. >> NOW, DURING THIS CONVERSATION
>> NOW, DURING THIS CONVERSATION DID THE DEPUTY SECRETARY TELL
DID THE DEPUTY SECRETARY TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR FUTURE AS THE
YOU ABOUT YOUR FUTURE AS THE AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE?
AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE? >> WELL, HE TOLD ME I NEEDED TO
>> WELL, HE TOLD ME I NEEDED TO LEAVE.
LEAVE. >> WHAT DID HE SAY?
>> WHAT DID HE SAY? >> THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND
>> THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, BUT ULTIMATELY HE SAID
FORTH, BUT ULTIMATELY HE SAID THE WORDS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY
THE WORDS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER
FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER UNDERSTANDS, THE PRESIDENT HAS
UNDERSTANDS, THE PRESIDENT HAS LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU.
LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU. THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A TERRIBLE
THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A TERRIBLE THING TO HEAR.
THING TO HEAR. AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I
AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I HAVE TO GO THEN.
GUESS I HAVE TO GO THEN. BUT NO -- NO REAL REASON WAS
BUT NO -- NO REAL REASON WAS OFFERED AS TO WHY I HAD TO LEAVE
OFFERED AS TO WHY I HAD TO LEAVE AND WHY IT WAS BEING DONE IN
AND WHY IT WAS BEING DONE IN SUCH A MANNER.
SUCH A MANNER. >> DID YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION
>> DID YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAD
THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT HAD LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU?
LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU? >> NO.
>> NO. >> AND WERE YOU PROVIDED ANY
>> AND WERE YOU PROVIDED ANY REASON WHY THE PRESIDENT LOST
REASON WHY THE PRESIDENT LOST CONFIDENCE IN YOU?
CONFIDENCE IN YOU? >> NO.
>> NO. >> IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT
>> IN YOUR OPENING STATEMENT THAT YOU HAD LEFT UKRAINE BY THE
THAT YOU HAD LEFT UKRAINE BY THE TIME OF THE JULY 25th CALL
TIME OF THE JULY 25th CALL BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND
BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, WHEN WAS THE
PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU SAW THE CALL
FIRST TIME THAT YOU SAW THE CALL RECORD FOR THIS PHONE CALL?
RECORD FOR THIS PHONE CALL? >> WHEN IT WAS RELEASED PUBLICLY
>> WHEN IT WAS RELEASED PUBLICLY AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I
AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER, I BELIEVE.
BELIEVE. >> AND PRIOR TO READING THAT
>> AND PRIOR TO READING THAT CALL RECORD, WERE YOU AWARE THAT
CALL RECORD, WERE YOU AWARE THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD SPECIFICALLY
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD SPECIFICALLY MADE REFERENCE TO YOU IN THAT
MADE REFERENCE TO YOU IN THAT CALL?
CALL? >> NO.
>> NO. >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO
>> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO LEARNING THAT?
LEARNING THAT? >> I WAS SHOCKED.
>> I WAS SHOCKED. ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED.
ABSOLUTELY SHOCKED. AND DEVASTATED, FRANKLY.
AND DEVASTATED, FRANKLY. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DEVASTATED?
DEVASTATED? >> I WAS SHOCKED AND DEVASTATED
>> I WAS SHOCKED AND DEVASTATED THAT I WOULD FEATURE IN A PHONE
THAT I WOULD FEATURE IN A PHONE CALL BETWEEN TWO HEADS OF STATE
CALL BETWEEN TWO HEADS OF STATE IN SUCH A MANNER, WHERE
IN SUCH A MANNER, WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID I WAS BAD
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID I WAS BAD NEWS TO ANOTHER WORLD LEADER AND
NEWS TO ANOTHER WORLD LEADER AND THAT I WOULD BE GOING THROUGH
THAT I WOULD BE GOING THROUGH THINGS.
THINGS. SO, I WAS -- IT WAS A TERRIBLE
SO, I WAS -- IT WAS A TERRIBLE MOMENT.
MOMENT. A PERSON WHO SAW ME ACTUALLY
A PERSON WHO SAW ME ACTUALLY READING THE TRANSCRIPT SAID THAT
READING THE TRANSCRIPT SAID THAT THE COLOR DRAINED MY FACE.
THE COLOR DRAINED MY FACE. I THINK I EVEN HAD A PHYSICAL
I THINK I EVEN HAD A PHYSICAL REACTION.
REACTION. >> THE NEXT EXCERPT WHEN THE
>> THE NEXT EXCERPT WHEN THE PRESIDENT REFERENCES YOU WAS A
PRESIDENT REFERENCES YOU WAS A SHOT ONE, BUT HE SAID, WELL,
SHOT ONE, BUT HE SAID, WELL, SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME
SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS.
THINGS. WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN
WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD PRESIDENT
PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND YOU READ THAT YOU
ZELENSKY AND YOU READ THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME
WERE GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME THINGS?
THINGS? >> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK,
>> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK, BUT I WAS VERY CONCERNED.
BUT I WAS VERY CONCERNED. >> WHAT WERE YOU CONCERNED