>> Sandra: A LOT TO TAKE IN

THERE.

>> Bill: CERTAINLY IS.

ANDY MCCARTHY, GOOD MORNING TO

YOU.

WE'RE THROWING A LOT AT OUR

VIEWERS, A LOT IS COMING AT US

EVERY DAY AND HOUR.

WHERE SHOULD WE PUT OUR EYES

TODAY?

>> I THINK THE BEST PLACE,

BILL, WOULD BE CAPITOL HILL

WHERE WE JUST HEARD FROM

KATHERINE.

WE UNDERSTAND THE PRESIDENT IS

GOING TO SUBMIT THIS LETTER TO

THE HOUSE.

I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT THING

FOR HIM TO DO.

THE CONSTITUTION REPOSES THE

POWER TO IMPEACH SOLELY IN THE

HOUSE, NOT IN THE SPEAKER OF

THE HOUSE, IN THE HOUSE.

AND IT ACTUALLY WOULD BENEFIT

THE HOUSE EVEN THOUGH AS

SPEAKER PELOSI SAYS THERE IS

NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION

THAT REQUIRES THAT THEY TAKE A

VOTE BEFORE THEY DO AN

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

IF THEY WANT TO GO INTO COURT

AND TRY TO ENFORCE ANY

INFORMATION DEMANDS AS I'VE

POINTED OUT, WE DON'T HAVE

SUBPOENAS AT THE MOMENT.

WHAT POMPEO HAS IS LETTERS FROM

CONGRESS ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE.

IF THEY WANT TO GO INTO COURT

AND TRY TO ENFORCE THESE

INFORMATION DEMANDS THE FIRST

THING A COURT IS GOING TO WANT

TO KNOW IS HAS THE HOUSE VOTED

TO HAVE AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY?

A LOT HINGES ON THAT INCLUDING

HOW MUCH EXPANSION A COURT

WOULD GIVE A PRESIDENT'S CLAIM

OF EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AND

PRIVILEGE OVER MATTERS THAT ARE

IN THE PRESIDENT'S DUTIES UNDER

ARTICLE 2.

SO I THINK SHE IS RIGHT.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT REQUIRES

THEM TO HAVE A VOTE.

BUT IF THIS IS GOING TO BE REAL.

IF THEY REALLY HAVE GROUNDS TO

SEEK THE PRESIDENT'S

IMPEACHMENT, THEY NOT ONLY

SHOULD HAVE A VOTE BECAUSE IT'S

IN THEIR INTEREST WHEN THEY GO

TO COURT TO HAVE A VOTE.

THEY SHOULD BE PROUD TO HAVE A

VOTE.

IF THEY REALLY THINK THERE ARE

GROUNDS TO REMOVE THE PRESIDENT

OF THE UNITED STATES FROM

POWER, THEN THE HOUSE SHOULD

SPEAK AS ONE AS AN INSTITUTION

AND VOTE THAT WAY.

>> Bill: DO YOU SEE A SMOKING

GUN LURKING OBVIOUS OR NOT.

IF YOU'RE THE PRESIDENT ALL

THIS WHAT WOULD CONCERN YOU THE

MOST?

>> I WOULD BE MOST CONCERNED

ABOUT THE WAY AMERICANS ARE

CONSUMING THE COVERAGE.

THERE IS A LOT OF REPORTING

THAT IS SIMPLY INACCURATE ABOUT

WHAT IS GOING ON.

FOR EXAMPLE, THIS WHOLE IDEA

THERE IS AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

THERE IS NOT.

THE IDEA THERE ARE SUBPOENAS.

THEY AREN'T.

THIS IS ALL THEATER AT THIS

POINT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CONSUMING

IT AS IF IT WERE TRUE ON FACE

VALUE.

I REALLY THINK IF I WERE THE

WHITE HOUSE, WHAT I WOULD BE

WORRIED ABOUT IS BREAKING

THROUGH THAT.

>> Bill: I'M NOT QUITE SURE I'M

ENTIRELY CLEAR ON WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING THERE.

IF YOU'RE THE WHITE HOUSE

YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT

SPECIFICALLY?

>> I'M CONCERNED, FOR EXAMPLE.

LET'S TAKE ONE THING.

THE TERM QUID PRO QUO, RIGHT?

THERE IS ALWAYS QUID PRO QUO

WHEN FOREIGN COUNTRIES DEAL

WITH EACH OTHER.

THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER THERE

WAS A QUID PRO QUO.

IT WERE BIZARRE IF IT WASN'T AN

EXCHANGE.

THEY ARE ALWAYS PURSUING THEIR

INTERESTS.

WAS THERE A CORRUPT QUID PRO

QUO IS THE QUESTION HERE.

WAS THE PRESIDENT LEVERAGING

HIS POWER OVER FOREIGN AFFAIRS

EXCLUSIVELY TO GET THE

UKRAINIANS BASICALLY TO WORK ON

THE TRUMP 2020 CAMPAIGN.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WHAT THE

PRESIDENT WAS ACTUALLY DOING

WAS TRYING TO LEVERAGE THE

UKRAINIANS TO ASSIST IN

ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR'S

LEGITIMATE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

INVESTIGATION INTO THE

INVESTIGATIONS THAT WERE

ATTENDANT TO THE 2016 CAMPAIGN,

THAT'S NOT ONLY NORMAL, IT IS

ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE.

IF IT'S PITCHED TO THE PUBLIC

AS IF WAS THERE A QUID PRO QUO

ABOUT 2016, WHAT THE PUBLIC IS

TAKING FROM THAT IS THAT THE

SUGGESTION THAT THERE WAS A

CORRUPT, IMPROPER DEAL.

AND THAT IS BROUGHT TO THEM IN

THE CONTEXT OF BEING TOLD THERE

IS AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY OVER

IT AND THAT THERE ARE SUBPOENAS

PENDING DEMANDING THAT THE

EXECUTIVE BRANCH TURN OVER

INFORMATION THAT IT'S

WITHHOLDING ABOUT THIS.

>> Bill: THE WAY YOU FRAME THAT

IT'S IF THE BILL CLINTON MATTER

CAME DOWN TO THE MEANING OF THE

WORD IS IS.

YOU ARE DESCRIBING WHETHER IT

WAS 2016 OR 2020.

I WANT TO GET A BETTER ANSWER

ON THAT -- A MORE COMPLETE

ANSWER AND WE'LL PUT YOU ON