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PETER ALEXANDER, SHOULD BE QUITE AN EVENTFUL FEW HOURS DOWN THERE
AN EVENTFUL FEW HOURS DOWN THERE IN THE AMWAY CENTER, I BELIEVE
IN THE AMWAY CENTER, I BELIEVE THEY CALL IT.
THEY CALL IT. AS I MENTIONED, PRESIDENT TRUMP
AS I MENTIONED, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BLOWN UP OUR PRESIDENTIAL
HAS BLOWN UP OUR PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS.
POLITICS. AND THERE'S ARGUABLY NO BETTER
AND THERE'S ARGUABLY NO BETTER EXAMPLE OF THE NEW REALITY WE'RE
EXAMPLE OF THE NEW REALITY WE'RE ALL GRAPPLING WITH THAN MY NEXT
ALL GRAPPLING WITH THAN MY NEXT GUEST.
GUEST. IN MANY WAYS, ANDREW YANG'S
IN MANY WAYS, ANDREW YANG'S CANDIDACY IS PROOF OF HOW
CANDIDACY IS PROOF OF HOW VULNERABLE SOME SEE THIS
VULNERABLE SOME SEE THIS PRESIDENT'S RE-ELECTION CHANCES
PRESIDENT'S RE-ELECTION CHANCES BUT ALSO HOW UNPREDICTABLE OUR
BUT ALSO HOW UNPREDICTABLE OUR POLITICS HAVE BECOME.
POLITICS HAVE BECOME. HERE WE HAVE A BUSINESSMAN OUT
HERE WE HAVE A BUSINESSMAN OUT OF NOWHERE, NO PRIOR POLITICAL
OF NOWHERE, NO PRIOR POLITICAL OR MILITARY EXPERIENCE, NOT ONLY
OR MILITARY EXPERIENCE, NOT ONLY VYING TO DEFEAT THE PRESIDENT,
VYING TO DEFEAT THE PRESIDENT, BUT ALSO GETTING ENOUGH VOTERS
BUT ALSO GETTING ENOUGH VOTERS TO TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY THAT HE'S
TO TAKE HIM SERIOUSLY THAT HE'S MADE THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE
MADE THE DEMOCRATIC DEBATE STAGE.
STAGE. MR. YANG JOINS ME NOW.
MR. YANG JOINS ME NOW. ANDREW YANG, WELCOME TO "MEET
ANDREW YANG, WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS DAILY," SIR.
THE PRESS DAILY," SIR. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, SIR.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, SIR. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE. >> LET ME GO WITH THIS IMMEDIATE
>> LET ME GO WITH THIS IMMEDIATE PREMISE HERE.
PREMISE HERE. WOULD YOU BE HERE IF DONALD
WOULD YOU BE HERE IF DONALD TRUMP HADN'T WON THE PRESIDENCY?
TRUMP HADN'T WON THE PRESIDENCY? >> CATEGORICALLY NOT.
>> CATEGORICALLY NOT. I'M RUNNING TO SOLVE THE
I'M RUNNING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS THAT GOT DONALD TRUMP
PROBLEMS THAT GOT DONALD TRUMP ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ELECTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. PRIMARILY, THE FACT THAT WE
PRIMARILY, THE FACT THAT WE AUTOMATED AWAY 4 MILLION
AUTOMATED AWAY 4 MILLION MANUFACTURING JOBS IN MICHIGAN,
MANUFACTURING JOBS IN MICHIGAN, OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN,
OHIO, PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN, MISSOURI, AND IOWA.
MISSOURI, AND IOWA. BUT I WOULD NOT BE RUNNING IF
BUT I WOULD NOT BE RUNNING IF DONALD TRUMP WERE NOT OUR
DONALD TRUMP WERE NOT OUR PRESIDENT TODAY.
PRESIDENT TODAY. >> WHAT IS IT YOU THINK THE
>> WHAT IS IT YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY MISUNDERSTOOD
DEMOCRATIC PARTY MISUNDERSTOOD ABOUT TRUMP'S APPEAL FOUR YEARS
ABOUT TRUMP'S APPEAL FOUR YEARS AGO?
AGO? >> WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, DONALD
>> WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, DONALD TRUMP POINTED OUT THE
TRUMP POINTED OUT THE DEVASTATION AND SUFFERING IN
DEVASTATION AND SUFFERING IN MANY AMERICAN COMMUNITIES.
MANY AMERICAN COMMUNITIES. >> HE WASN'T ALONE, THOUGH.
>> HE WASN'T ALONE, THOUGH. MANY DEMOCRATS POINTED THIS OUT.
MANY DEMOCRATS POINTED THIS OUT. BERNIE SANDERS POINTED THIS OUT.
BERNIE SANDERS POINTED THIS OUT. BARACK OBAMA POINTED IT OUT FOUR
BARACK OBAMA POINTED IT OUT FOUR YEARS EARLIER.
YEARS EARLIER. THAT'S WHY I ONLY -- HE WASN'T
THAT'S WHY I ONLY -- HE WASN'T THE ONLY ONE.
THE ONLY ONE. HE'S JUST THE MOST RECENT ONE.
HE'S JUST THE MOST RECENT ONE. >> WELL, BERNIE SANDERS
>> WELL, BERNIE SANDERS DEFINITELY POINTED OUT THE SAME
DEFINITELY POINTED OUT THE SAME THING, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER THE
THING, BUT IF YOU REMEMBER THE PREVAILING RESPONSE WAS
PREVAILING RESPONSE WAS AMERICA'S ALREADY DOING GREAT.
AMERICA'S ALREADY DOING GREAT. AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, AMERICANS
AND YOU KNOW, LIKE, AMERICANS HEARD THAT AND DID NOT THINK
HEARD THAT AND DID NOT THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS
THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WAS TRULY TRYING TO SOLVE THE
TRULY TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS ON THE GROUND THAT MANY
PROBLEMS ON THE GROUND THAT MANY AMERICANS WERE EXPERIENCING.
AMERICANS WERE EXPERIENCING. AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MANUFACTURING WORKERS WILL NOW
MANUFACTURING WORKERS WILL NOW HAPPEN TO THE RETAIL WORKERS,
HAPPEN TO THE RETAIL WORKERS, THE CALL CENTER WORKERS, THE
THE CALL CENTER WORKERS, THE FAST FOOD WORKERS, THE TRUCK
FAST FOOD WORKERS, THE TRUCK DRIVERS.
DRIVERS. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THE
WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THE GREATEST ECONOMIC TRANSFORMATION
GREATEST ECONOMIC TRANSFORMATION IN THE HISTORY OF OUR UNCOUNTRY
IN THE HISTORY OF OUR UNCOUNTRY AND DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE LASER
AND DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE LASER FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING THAT
FOCUSED ON ADDRESSING THAT REALITY THAN FOCUSING ON THE
REALITY THAN FOCUSING ON THE SYMPTOM, WHICH IS DONALD TRUMP.
SYMPTOM, WHICH IS DONALD TRUMP. >> IN SOME WAYS, YOUR SIGNATURE
>> IN SOME WAYS, YOUR SIGNATURE PROPOSAL DOESN'T NECESSARILY
PROPOSAL DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
SOLVE THE PROBLEM. IT FEELS LIKE A BAND-AID.
IT FEELS LIKE A BAND-AID. AND I SAY, YOUR SIGNATURE
AND I SAY, YOUR SIGNATURE PROPOSAL, THIS UNIVERSAL INCOME,
PROPOSAL, THIS UNIVERSAL INCOME, BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL
BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL THE GAP AS WE FIGURE OUT WHAT
THE GAP AS WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE JOBS OF THE 21st CENTURY
THE JOBS OF THE 21st CENTURY LOOK LIKE.
LOOK LIKE. AM I BEING TOO CYNICAL ABOUT IT?
AM I BEING TOO CYNICAL ABOUT IT? >> IF YOU THINK WHAT HAPPENED TO
>> IF YOU THINK WHAT HAPPENED TO COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY
COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY IF EVERY AMERICAN ADULT GOT
IF EVERY AMERICAN ADULT GOT $1,000 A MONTH, IT WOULD CREATE
$1,000 A MONTH, IT WOULD CREATE 2 MILLION JOBS IN OUR
2 MILLION JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, HELP RECOGNIZE THE
COMMUNITIES, HELP RECOGNIZE THE KIND OF WORK THAT MY WIFE DOES
KIND OF WORK THAT MY WIFE DOES EVERY DAY AT HOME WITH OUR TWO
EVERY DAY AT HOME WITH OUR TWO BOYS, ONE OF WHOM IS AUTISTIC.
BOYS, ONE OF WHOM IS AUTISTIC. IT'S NOT A BAND-AID.
IT'S NOT A BAND-AID. IT SUPERCHARGES OUR ECONOMY AND
IT SUPERCHARGES OUR ECONOMY AND CREATES JOBS IN THE DIRECTION WE
CREATES JOBS IN THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO, WHICH INCLUDES THE
NEED TO GO, WHICH INCLUDES THE CARING COMMUNITY, ARTS, AND MAIN
CARING COMMUNITY, ARTS, AND MAIN STREET JOBS BECAUSE OF AN
STREET JOBS BECAUSE OF AN INCREASE IN CONSUMER BUYING
INCREASE IN CONSUMER BUYING POWER.
POWER. >> SO YOU THINK ONE OF THE
>> SO YOU THINK ONE OF THE POSITIVE ASPECTS ABOUT YOUR PLAN
POSITIVE ASPECTS ABOUT YOUR PLAN IS IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PURSUE
IS IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PURSUE AN ART AND REALLY COULDN'T
AN ART AND REALLY COULDN'T AFFORD TO MAKE A LIVING DOING
AFFORD TO MAKE A LIVING DOING IT, YOU'RE GIVING THEM AN
IT, YOU'RE GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT. I GET THAT, BUT HOW DOES THAT
I GET THAT, BUT HOW DOES THAT GROW OUR ECONOMY?
GROW OUR ECONOMY? >> WELL, OUR ECONOMY RIGHT NOW
>> WELL, OUR ECONOMY RIGHT NOW IS UP TO A RECORD $20 TRILLION,
IS UP TO A RECORD $20 TRILLION, UP $5 TRILLION IN THE LAST 12
UP $5 TRILLION IN THE LAST 12 YEARS ALONE.
YEARS ALONE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE
THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE HAVE THESE WINNER TAKE ALL DYNAMICS
THESE WINNER TAKE ALL DYNAMICS THAT THE GAINS ARE CONCENTRATED
THAT THE GAINS ARE CONCENTRATED IN JUST A HANDFUL OF INDUSTRIES
IN JUST A HANDFUL OF INDUSTRIES AND COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS.
AND COMPANIES AND INDIVIDUALS. AND SO IF YOU SPREAD THAT BOUNTY
AND SO IF YOU SPREAD THAT BOUNTY MORE BROADLY THROUGHOUT THE
MORE BROADLY THROUGHOUT THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, IT DOES CREATE
AMERICAN ECONOMY, IT DOES CREATE OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDING IN THE
OPPORTUNITIES INCLUDING IN THE ARTS, BUT ALSO ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
ARTS, BUT ALSO ENTREPRENEURSHIP. AND I'M A SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR.
AND I'M A SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR. WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AMERICANS
WE NEED TO HAVE MORE AMERICANS BEING PUT INTO POSITION TO DO
BEING PUT INTO POSITION TO DO THE KIND OF WORK THEY ACTUALLY
THE KIND OF WORK THEY ACTUALLY WANT TO DO.
WANT TO DO. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BORDER.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BORDER. THERE IS A LOT OF ANGST AND
THERE IS A LOT OF ANGST AND ANXIETY OVER THE BORDER.
ANXIETY OVER THE BORDER. THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES THE ISSUE
THE PRESIDENT BELIEVES THE ISSUE IS OUR ASYLUM LAWS.
IS OUR ASYLUM LAWS. DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THAT SOME OF
DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH JUST, YOU
THIS HAS TO DO WITH JUST, YOU CAN'T PULL MONEY AWAY FROM
CAN'T PULL MONEY AWAY FROM CENTRAL AMERICA.
CENTRAL AMERICA. WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A DIFFERENCE
WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A DIFFERENCE TOLERANCE POLICY HERE.
TOLERANCE POLICY HERE. WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN MIGRATION
WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN MIGRATION OVER THE BORDER.
OVER THE BORDER. WHAT WOULD YOU BE DOING ABOUT
WHAT WOULD YOU BE DOING ABOUT IT?
IT? >> THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO
>> THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO
IS PUT ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO WORK AT THE BORDER.
WORK AT THE BORDER. WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF NOT JUST
WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF NOT JUST ASYLUM JUDGES AND FACILITIES,
ASYLUM JUDGES AND FACILITIES, BUT EVEN BORDER PATROL
BUT EVEN BORDER PATROL PERSONNEL.
PERSONNEL. THERE ARE HUNDREDS, MAYBE
THERE ARE HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF UNFILLED POSITIONS,
THOUSANDS OF UNFILLED POSITIONS, BECAUSE THESE POSITIONS DON'T
BECAUSE THESE POSITIONS DON'T PAY AS COMPETITIVELY AS OTHER
PAY AS COMPETITIVELY AS OTHER ROLES IN OUR GOVERNMENT.
ROLES IN OUR GOVERNMENT. AND ALSO, THESE ARE NOT
AND ALSO, THESE ARE NOT APPEALING PLACES TO LIVE.
APPEALING PLACES TO LIVE. SO WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK THAT
SO WE HAVE TO DO THE WORK THAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE DONE IN
WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE DONE IN ORDER TO HAVE OUR POLICIES
ORDER TO HAVE OUR POLICIES ACTUALLY BE EFFECTIVE ON THE
ACTUALLY BE EFFECTIVE ON THE GROUND.
GROUND. IT SERVES NOBODY IF THERE'S A
IT SERVES NOBODY IF THERE'S A MULTI-MONTH OR EVEN YEAR-LONG
MULTI-MONTH OR EVEN YEAR-LONG WAITING PROCESS TO HAVE AN
WAITING PROCESS TO HAVE AN ASYLUM HEARING.
ASYLUM HEARING. >> I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR UNIVERSAL INCOME PROPOSAL,
UNIVERSAL INCOME PROPOSAL, BECAUSE OUR DEBT IS ALREADY UP
BECAUSE OUR DEBT IS ALREADY UP TO $20 TRILLION.
TO $20 TRILLION. AND I KNOW IN SOME WAYS, IF YOU
AND I KNOW IN SOME WAYS, IF YOU ALREADY GET SOME GOVERNMENT
ALREADY GET SOME GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, YOU WOULDN'T GET
ASSISTANCE, YOU WOULDN'T GET THIS MONEY.
THIS MONEY. BUT HOW DOES THIS NOT, EVEN IN
BUT HOW DOES THIS NOT, EVEN IN THE SHORT-TERM, INFLATE OUR DEBT
THE SHORT-TERM, INFLATE OUR DEBT AND PUT US IN A BUDGETARY CRISIS
AND PUT US IN A BUDGETARY CRISIS GOING FORWARD?
GOING FORWARD? >> WELL, IF YOU LOOK UP, CHUCK,
>> WELL, IF YOU LOOK UP, CHUCK, WHO ARE THE BIG WINNERS IN THIS
WHO ARE THE BIG WINNERS IN THIS ECONOMY?
ECONOMY? IT'S AMAZON AND OTHER $1
IT'S AMAZON AND OTHER $1 TRILLION TECH COMPANIES.
TRILLION TECH COMPANIES. AND IN AMAZON'S CASE, THEY'RE
AND IN AMAZON'S CASE, THEY'RE LITERALLY PAYING ZERO IN FEDERAL
LITERALLY PAYING ZERO IN FEDERAL TAXES.
TAXES. YOU'RE 100% RIGHT THAT IF YOU
YOU'RE 100% RIGHT THAT IF YOU HAVE THAT SITUATION, IT'S GOING
HAVE THAT SITUATION, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT ZPLP.
TO BE VERY DIFFICULT ZPLP. >> SO YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE
>> SO YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE TAX STRUCTURE FIRST BEFORE YOU
TAX STRUCTURE FIRST BEFORE YOU HAND OUT THESE CHECKS?
HAND OUT THESE CHECKS? >> WE DO IT SIMULTANEOUSLY.
>> WE DO IT SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND WE WOULD BE TAKING MONEY
AND WE WOULD BE TAKING MONEY FROM THE AMAZONS OF THE WORLD
FROM THE AMAZONS OF THE WORLD AND PUT IT DIRECTLY INTO THE
AND PUT IT DIRECTLY INTO THE HANDS OF AMERICAN CONSUMERS.
HANDS OF AMERICAN CONSUMERS. >> EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS?
>> EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS? JEFF BEZOS WILL WRITE YOU A
JEFF BEZOS WILL WRITE YOU A CHECK?
CHECK? >> WE'LL DO BETTER THAN THAT.
>> WE'LL DO BETTER THAN THAT. WE'LL JOIN ANY OTHER ADVANCED
WE'LL JOIN ANY OTHER ADVANCED ECONOMY IN THE WORLD AND HAVE A
ECONOMY IN THE WORLD AND HAVE A VALUE-ADDED TAX WHICH WOULD GIVE
VALUE-ADDED TAX WHICH WOULD GIVE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC A TINY SLICE
THE AMERICAN PUBLIC A TINY SLICE OF EVERY AMAZON SALE, EVERY
OF EVERY AMAZON SALE, EVERY GOOGLE SEARCH, EVERY FACEBOOK
GOOGLE SEARCH, EVERY FACEBOOK ADD, EVERY ROBOT MILE.
ADD, EVERY ROBOT MILE. >> AND IF YOU'RE THE NOMINEE, I
>> AND IF YOU'RE THE NOMINEE, I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE PUSH EITHER A
HAVE SEEN PEOPLE PUSH EITHER A FAIR TAX OR A VAT TAX OR A
FAIR TAX OR A VAT TAX OR A NATIONAL SALES TAX.
NATIONAL SALES TAX. AND EVERY CANDIDATE THAT HAS
AND EVERY CANDIDATE THAT HAS TRIED TO PUT IT OUT THERE, IF
TRIED TO PUT IT OUT THERE, IF THEY WIN A NOMINATION, THEY GET
THEY WIN A NOMINATION, THEY GET EVISCERATED BECAUSE SOMEBODY
EVISCERATED BECAUSE SOMEBODY BASICALLY SHOWS, HEY, LOOK AT
BASICALLY SHOWS, HEY, LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO
HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO TAKE YOUR KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL
TAKE YOUR KIDS BACK TO SCHOOL NOW.
NOW. LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO
LOOK AT HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST TO BUY EVERYDAY PRODUCTS.
COST TO BUY EVERYDAY PRODUCTS. HOW DO YOU BEAT BACK WHICH HAS
HOW DO YOU BEAT BACK WHICH HAS BEEN A TRIED AND TRUED METHOD
BEEN A TRIED AND TRUED METHOD POLITICALLY TO DEFEAT NATIONAL
POLITICALLY TO DEFEAT NATIONAL SALES TAXES, TO DEFEAT THE VAT,
SALES TAXES, TO DEFEAT THE VAT, THINGS LIKE THIS, WHERE PEOPLE
THINGS LIKE THIS, WHERE PEOPLE SEE THE INITIAL BILL AND I DON'T
SEE THE INITIAL BILL AND I DON'T CARE WHAT KIND OF REFUND
CARE WHAT KIND OF REFUND SITUATION YOU PUT IN THERE, THAT
SITUATION YOU PUT IN THERE, THAT DOES SCARE PEOPLE.
DOES SCARE PEOPLE. >> WELL, IT'S MORE THAN A
>> WELL, IT'S MORE THAN A REFUND, CHUCK.
REFUND, CHUCK. IT'S ACTUALLY A DIVIDEND.
IT'S ACTUALLY A DIVIDEND. AND FOR EVERY DOLLAR FROM THE
AND FOR EVERY DOLLAR FROM THE VAT AMERICAN CONSUMERS WOULD BE
VAT AMERICAN CONSUMERS WOULD BE RECEIVING $3.
RECEIVING $3. IT WOULD INCREASE THE BUYING
IT WOULD INCREASE THE BUYING POWER OF APPROXIMATELY THE 92%
POWER OF APPROXIMATELY THE 92% OF AMERICANS.
OF AMERICANS. AND AMERICANS UNDERSTAND WHAT
AND AMERICANS UNDERSTAND WHAT $12,000 A YEAR WOULD MEAN FOR
$12,000 A YEAR WOULD MEAN FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES. VERY, VERY FEW AMERICANS WOULD
VERY, VERY FEW AMERICANS WOULD CONSUME ENOUGH FOR A MILD VAT
CONSUME ENOUGH FOR A MILD VAT COME ANYWHERE NEAR
COME ANYWHERE NEAR COUNTERBALANCING A $1,000 VAT A
COUNTERBALANCING A $1,000 VAT A MONTH.
MONTH. >> SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE
>> SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SITUATION IN IRAN.
SITUATION IN IRAN. HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO DEAL WITH
HOW WOULD YOU TRY TO DEAL WITH IRAN'S BELLIGERENT NATURE IN THE
IRAN'S BELLIGERENT NATURE IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
MIDDLE EAST? THE BIGGEST CRITICISM OF
THE BIGGEST CRITICISM OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE IRAN
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL WAS, OKAY, THE GOOD
NUCLEAR DEAL WAS, OKAY, THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOU GOT THEM TO AGREE
NEWS IS, YOU GOT THEM TO AGREE ON SOME LIMITS WHEN IT COMES TO
ON SOME LIMITS WHEN IT COMES TO THE NUCLEAR ISSUE.
THE NUCLEAR ISSUE. BUT IT DID NOTHING WHEN IT CAME
BUT IT DID NOTHING WHEN IT CAME TO THEM FUNDING TERRORIST
TO THEM FUNDING TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS LIKE
ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT
THAT THAT.
THAT. WHAT WOULD YOUR ADMINISTRATION
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADMINISTRATION DO TO CURTAIL SOME OF THAT BAD
DO TO CURTAIL SOME OF THAT BAD BEHAVIOR BY IRAN?
BEHAVIOR BY IRAN? >> I WOULD LOOK TO VEREENTER THE
>> I WOULD LOOK TO VEREENTER THE NUCLEAR DEAL.
NUCLEAR DEAL. EVEN AFTER THE U.S. PULLED OUT
EVEN AFTER THE U.S. PULLED OUT UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION,
UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT
THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT SIGNED ON THAT ARE STILL THERE.
SIGNED ON THAT ARE STILL THERE. WE NEED TO DE-ESCALATE TENSIONS
WE NEED TO DE-ESCALATE TENSIONS IN THE IRAN REGION AND MAKE IT
IN THE IRAN REGION AND MAKE IT SO THAT THE IRAN GOVERNMENT'S
SO THAT THE IRAN GOVERNMENT'S INCENTIVES ARE ACTUALLY ALIGNED
INCENTIVES ARE ACTUALLY ALIGNED WITH OURS IN TERMS OF BOTH
WITH OURS IN TERMS OF BOTH DE-ESCALATING THE NUCLEAR
DE-ESCALATING THE NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY
DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THEM TO REDUCE THEIR
GETTING THEM TO REDUCE THEIR FUNDING OF TERRORIST
FUNDING OF TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS IN OTHER PARTS OF
ORGANIZATIONS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE REGION.
THE REGION. >> DO YOU HAVE A THEORY OF THE
>> DO YOU HAVE A THEORY OF THE CASE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE
CASE ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THE TRUMP MEAT GRINDER?
TRUMP MEAT GRINDER? YOU KNOW, HE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY
YOU KNOW, HE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, OF
OF TALKING TO THE PUBLIC, OF TALKING TO CANDIDATES.
TALKING TO CANDIDATES. WHY WILL YOU BE DIFFERENT AT
WHY WILL YOU BE DIFFERENT AT HANDLING THE TRUMP-STYLE OF
HANDLING THE TRUMP-STYLE OF POLITICAL CAMPAIGN DIFFERENTLY
POLITICAL CAMPAIGN DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS HAVE TRIED AND
THAN OTHERS HAVE TRIED AND FAILED AT?
FAILED AT? >> WELL, THEY SAY, CHUCK, THAT
>> WELL, THEY SAY, CHUCK, THAT THE OPPOSITE OF DONALD TRUMP IS
THE OPPOSITE OF DONALD TRUMP IS AN ASIAN MAN WHO LIKES MATH.
AN ASIAN MAN WHO LIKES MATH. AND I'M ALREADY PEELING OFF
AND I'M ALREADY PEELING OFF THOUSANDS OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS,
THOUSANDS OF TRUMP SUPPORTERS, INDEPENDENTS, LIBERTARIANS,
INDEPENDENTS, LIBERTARIANS, CONSERVATIVES, AS WELL AS
CONSERVATIVES, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY DEMOCRATS AND
OBVIOUSLY DEMOCRATS AND PROGRESSIVES.
PROGRESSIVES. BUT I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOUR
BUT I AGREE WITH MANY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES THAT WE NEED TO BE
COLLEAGUES THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON BEATING DONALD TRUMP
FOCUSED ON BEATING DONALD TRUMP AND I'M THE IDEAL CANDIDATE FOR
AND I'M THE IDEAL CANDIDATE FOR THAT.
THAT. >> BUT DOES THAT MEAN TAKING HIM
>> BUT DOES THAT MEAN TAKING HIM ON DIRECTLY?
ON DIRECTLY? LEAVING THESE THINGS, NOT
LEAVING THESE THINGS, NOT LETTING STUFF GO UNANSWERED?
LETTING STUFF GO UNANSWERED? OR IS IT IGNORING SOME OF THE
OR IS IT IGNORING SOME OF THE ANTICS?
ANTICS? >> IT'S ABOUT CUTTING TO THE
>> IT'S ABOUT CUTTING TO THE HEART OF THE MATTER AND THE
HEART OF THE MATTER AND THE TRUTH.
TRUTH. AND I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE
AND I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO
WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP WHO RECOGNIZE THAT HIS BLUSTER IS
RECOGNIZE THAT HIS BLUSTER IS NOT SERVING THEM WELL.
NOT SERVING THEM WELL. IT'S ONE REASON WHY MANY
IT'S ONE REASON WHY MANY AMERICANS WHO VOTED FOR DONALD
AMERICANS WHO VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP ARE LOOKING FOR A
TRUMP ARE LOOKING FOR A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
DIFFERENT SOLUTION. AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT MY
AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT MY CAMPAIGN IS DRAWING MANY OF
CAMPAIGN IS DRAWING MANY OF THOSE VOTERS OVER TO OUR SIDE OF
THOSE VOTERS OVER TO OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE.
THE AISLE. >> WHY AREN'T YOU RUNNING FOR A
>> WHY AREN'T YOU RUNNING FOR A LOWER OFFICE FIRST AND MAYBE SEE
LOWER OFFICE FIRST AND MAYBE SEE IF YOU CAN WIN AND GET MORE
IF YOU CAN WIN AND GET MORE PEOPLE TO MAINSTREAM YOUR
PEOPLE TO MAINSTREAM YOUR PROPOSALS?
PROPOSALS? I JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW,
I JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOOTING FOR THE PRESIDENCY, I
SHOOTING FOR THE PRESIDENCY, I GET IT.
GET IT. IT IS ONE WAY, AND YOU'RE
IT IS ONE WAY, AND YOU'RE CERTAINLY GETTING MORE ATTENTION
CERTAINLY GETTING MORE ATTENTION THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE
THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE RUNNING FOR THE U.S. SENATE
RUNNING FOR THE U.S. SENATE SOMEWHERE, BUT ISN'T IT MORE
SOMEWHERE, BUT ISN'T IT MORE PRACTICAL TO TRY TO BUILD THIS
PRACTICAL TO TRY TO BUILD THIS GROUND UP?
GROUND UP? >> CHUCK, I DEARLY WISH THAT I
>> CHUCK, I DEARLY WISH THAT I FELT LIKE WE HAD THE TIME.
FELT LIKE WE HAD THE TIME. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT ROBOT
BUT THE REALITY IS THAT ROBOT TRUCKS ARE FIVE TO TEN YEARS
TRUCKS ARE FIVE TO TEN YEARS AWAY FROM HITTING OUR HIGHWAYS
AWAY FROM HITTING OUR HIGHWAYS AND DRIVING A TRUCK IS THE MOST
AND DRIVING A TRUCK IS THE MOST COMMON JOB.
COMMON JOB. 39% OF OUR MALLS ARE CLOSING IN
39% OF OUR MALLS ARE CLOSING IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO IF I TOOK DECADES TO TRY TO
SO IF I TOOK DECADES TO TRY TO CLIMB THE POLITICAL LADDER,
CLIMB THE POLITICAL LADDER, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ECONOMY WOULD
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ECONOMY WOULD BE TRANSFORMING UNDERNEATH OUR
BE TRANSFORMING UNDERNEATH OUR FEET.
FEET. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE TIME FOR SOMEONE TO PLAY POLITICAL
SOMEONE TO PLAY POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP.
GAMESMANSHIP. >> ALL RIGHT.
>> ALL RIGHT. ANDREW YANG, AS I SAID, ONE OF
ANDREW YANG, AS I SAID, ONE OF THE MORE UNUSUAL CANDIDATES AND

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