Name: 【TED】茱莉泰茉: 蜘蛛人、獅子王與在危險邊緣上的創作生涯 (Julie Taymor: Spider-Man, The Lion King and life on the creative edge)
Uploaded: 2013-09-22T02:39:09.000Z
Duration: 18 min 29 s

Julie Taymor: Thank you. Thank you very much.

That's a few samples of the theater, opera

and films that I have done over the last 20 years.

But what I'd like to begin with right now

And when I'm in the turbulent times, as we know,

that I am right now, through the crucible

事實上在座的各位想必也有經歷過

Anybody who creates knows there's that point where

it hasn't quite become the phoenix or the burnt char.

創作的過程會到一個點
一個卡在中間，還未成為浴火鳳凰的時刻

which I'll tell you about, another story.

這又會和我想講的另一個故事有關

where I was about 21, 22 years, a long time ago,

當時我大概21、22歲左右
是很久以前的事了

And I found myself, after two years there

and performing and learning, on the island of Bali,

在巴杜爾 (Gunung Batur) 火山口附近

an initiation ceremony for the young men,

Little did I know that it was mine as well.

我當時不曉得那其實也會是我的成年禮

under this gigantic beringin banyan tree,

in the dark, there was no electricity, just the full moon,

四周一片漆黑，沒有電燈
只有天上的一輪明月

聽著甘美朗所彈奏出來的音樂
(印尼一種竹製樂器)

from all the different villagers that came

為了這場五年一次的慶典而演奏

And I thought I was alone in the dark under this tree.

我以為只有我一個人
夜裡坐在這樹下

I saw the glint of mirrors lit by the moon.

我看到之前見過的約二十位老人

all of a sudden stood up in these full warrior costumes

突然間全站了起來
並且都穿著全套的戰服

and no one was in the square, and I was hidden in the shadows.

廣場上空無一人
我剛好藏在陰影處

And they moved their bodies and they came forward,

他們舞動著身體
並且漸漸走到前端

and the lights bounced off these costumes.

光不斷地反射他們衣服上的亮片

And I've been in theater since I was 11 years old,

我從十一歲起就在戲院裡頭打滾

我不禁想：他們是在表演給誰看

And I realized that they were performing for God,

後來我發現他們是在表演給神看的

But somehow, it didn't matter about the publicity.

It wasn't going to be written down. It was no news.

不需要留下記錄
更沒有要做報導

而每位表演者都是頂尖的藝術家

that felt for me like an eternity as they performed.

當他們在表演的時候
我真的有種永恆的感覺

as soon as they finished and disappeared into the shadows,

他們一跳完
就馬上消失在陰影中

a young man with a propane lantern came on,

一名年輕人拿著瓦斯燈走了出來

把它掛在一棵樹上後
又架了一個簾子

The village square was filled with hundreds of people.

So what I gained and gathered from this incredible,

所以當我還是個年輕的藝術家時

seminal moment in my life as a young artist

就從這個既特別
又具有啓發性的時刻學到

我們必須堅持並且忠於
自己做為一個藝術家所相信的

to what you believe as an artist all the way through,

that the audience is out there in our lives at this time,

同一個時刻
觀眾就在台下觀看著

when we are creating something that is breaking ground,

當我們想要做一個突破性的創舉

that's trying to do something you've never seen before,

或是做出沒有人曾經做過的嘗試

where you actually don't know where you're going to end up,

你也自己也不知道結果會如何的世界

that's the fine line on the edge of a crater

What I would like to do now is to tell you

about how I work. Let's take "The Lion King."

You saw many examples of my work up there,

不過「獅子王」是大家都熟知的

I start with the notion of the ideograph.

這部片的創作是從表意的概念出發的