Name: 【TED】布倫達-羅梅羅：以博弈促理解（Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding）。 (【TED】Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding (Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding))
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T07:27:32.000Z
Duration: 9 min 21 s

Translator: Joseph Geni Reviewer: Morton Bast

When we think of games, there's all kinds of things.

對於遊戲，每個人的感受都不同

Maybe you're ticked off, or maybe, you're looking forward to a new game.

你可能興趣缺缺，也可能期待玩新遊戲

但是一說到遊戲，大家常想到的就是

a lot of times we think about stuff like this:

first-person shooters, or the big, what we would call AAA games,

這就是我和我的夥伴以前做的一款遊戲

Maybe you play Facebook games, and that's what we're making right now.

如果你玩的是 Facebook 遊戲，我們現在

Maybe you think about the tragically boring board games

that hold us hostage in Thanksgiving situations.

This would be one of the tragically boring board games that you can figure out.

這可能就是窮極無聊的桌遊之一

and there's this whole range of games, and that's very much what I think about.

I make my living from games, I've been lucky enough to do this

since I was 15, which also qualifies as I've never really had a real job.

But we think about games as fun, and that's completely reasonable,

我有幸在 15 歲那年就踏進這個產業

So this one here, this is the 1980 Olympics.

也就是說我至今沒做過一份真正的工作

遊戲在我們眼中就是好玩，這完全可以理解

And this is when the Americans beat the Russians,

and this was -- yes, it was technically a game.

但我可是以宗教般的狂熱在客廳裡鎖定電視

這是當年美國打敗俄羅斯的瞬間

真是難以言喻 對，運動也是一種遊戲

冰上曲棍球也是種遊戲 但這真的只是一場遊戲嗎？

I've never seen my mother cry like that at the end of Monopoly.

我是說，觀眾都哭了耶 我從沒看過我媽

So when the Boston Red Sox won the World Series

終結我想是長達 351 年的飲恨紀錄時

他們贏得世錦賽的那一刻，極為美妙

when they won the World Series, it was amazing.

I happened to be living in Springfield at the time,

you would close the women's door in the bathroom,

我記得都能看到「紅襪隊加油！」 我想不會吧？這也太誇張了！

and I remember seeing "Go Sox," and I thought, really?

連家裡都沒人在，因為每場比賽

Or the houses, you'd come out, because every game,

嗯，我想幾乎每場比賽都打到延長賽，對吧？

well, I think almost every game, went into overtime, right?

所以我們都在外面，整條街的燈都亮著

So we'd be outside, and all the other lights are on in the whole block.

學校出席率也下降，連小孩也不例外

And kids -- the attendance was down in school,

kids weren't going to school, but it's OK, it's the Red Sox, right?

但都沒關係，因為這是紅襪隊耶，對嗎？

I mean, there's education, and then there's the Red Sox,

所以這是很美好的經驗，而這也是

and again, yes, it was a game, but they didn't write newspaper articles,

people didn't say, "You know, really, I can die now, because the Red Sox won."

當時人們說「我現在死而無憾」

「因為紅襪隊終於贏了」，許多人真是這樣想

在我們心裡的意義比想像中複雜

So now, this is an abrupt transition here.

There was three years where I actually did have a real job, sort of.

我曾經擁有一份認真的職位三年

I was the head of a college department teaching games,

教作遊戲，所以勉強算是認真的工作

and now I got to talk about making them as opposed to making them.

只是我作有關遊戲的演講，而不是製作遊戲

Part of the job of it, when you're a chair of a department,

吃飯常是系主任的工作內容，我也超在行的

and so I'm out at a dinner with this guy called Zig Jackson.

我正和一個叫 Zig Jackson 的人吃飯

So this is Zig in this photograph, this is also one of Zig's photographs.

And he goes all around the country taking pictures of himself,

and you can see here he's got Zig's Indian Reservation.

在這張圖中是 Zig 的印地安部落

而這一張照片，算是比較傳統的構圖

this is one of the more traditional shots.

And this is one of my favorite shots here.

So you can look at this, and maybe you've even seen things like this.

但這其實出自他的「羞辱」系列作品

And this is actually from his Degradation series.

And what was most fascinating to me about this series

is just, look at that little boy there, can you imagine?

想像一下，現在他是位美國印地安人

We can see that's a traditional Native American.

Now I just want to change that guy's race.

「親愛的，來和這位黑人照相」

So, "Honey, come here, let's get you a picture with the black guy." Right?

如此行為令人不解 所以Zig，身為印地安人

一樣無法了解這種行為 他最喜歡的一張相片

And so Zig, being Indian, likewise it baffles his mind.

也是我最愛的相片，我沒放在這裡

是一位印第安人拍攝白人拍攝印地安人

my favorite photograph of his, which I don't have in here --

is Indian taking picture of white people taking pictures of Indians.

So I happen to be at dinner with this photographer,

and he was talking with another photographer

他帶了相機準備拍攝，但當他抵達時

他發現他做不到，他沒辦法按下快門

He'd taken his camera up there to photograph it,

所以他們倆來回地討論這個問題

but when he got there, he discovered he couldn't do it.

身為遊戲設計師，我對這話題極感興趣

And so they were talking back and forth about this question.

我該不該創作有關敏感議題的遊戲?

And that was fascinating to me as a game designer,

因為我們只是這做些好玩的東西而已

或是讓人感到害怕、打從骨裡地興奮

should I make the game about this difficult topic or not?

但任何其它媒介都面臨這個難題

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【TED】布倫達-羅梅羅：以博弈促理解（Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding）。 (【TED】Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding (Brenda Romero: Gaming for understanding))

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