Name: 【TED】Hasan Elahi:FBI，我在這裡！（哈桑-埃拉希：FBI，我在這裡！）。(Hasan Elahi：FBI，我在這裡！) (【TED】Hasan Elahi: FBI, here I am! (Hasan Elahi: FBI, here I am!))
Uploaded: 2021-01-14T07:27:17.000Z
Duration: 14 min 31 s

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And usually when I tell people I'm an artist,

你好。我叫Hasan。我是一個藝術家。

they just look at me and say, "Do you paint?"

通常當我告訴人我是一個藝術家，

他們只是看著我問，「 你畫油畫？」

is really a little bit about methodologies of working

rather than actually a specific discipline

So what I'm really interested in is creative problem solving.

And I had a little bit of a problem a few years ago.

我真正感興趣的是創造性地解決問題。

And this is the Detroit airport in June 19th of 2002.

I was flying back to the U.S. from an exhibition overseas.

這裡是在2002年6月19日底特律機場。

well I was taken by the FBI, met by an FBI agent,

聯邦調查局扣留着我, 聯邦調查局特工

and he asked me all sorts of questions --

"Where were you? What were you doing? Who were you talking with?

Why were you there? Who pays for your trips?" --

「 你去了哪裡？你在幹什麼？你跟誰說話？

為什麼你你去了那裡? 誰幫你出錢？ 」--

the guy asks me, "Where were you September 12th?"

And when most of us get asked, "Where were you September 12th?"

這個傢伙問我，「你9月12日在哪裡？」

當我們最經常被問，「你9月12日在哪裡？」

it's like, "I don't exactly remember, but I can look it up for you."

經常這就像，「 我不完全記得，但我可以給你查查看。」

and I said, "Okay, let's look up my appointments for September 12th."

I had September 12th -- from 10:00 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., I paid my storage bill.

我說：「好吧，讓我們來看看我在9月12日約會。 」

From 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., I met with Judith who was one of my graduate students at the time.

9月12日 -- 上午10時至10時半，我付清了我的儲藏室帳單。

From 12:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m., I taught my intro class,

從上午10時半至中午，我會見了在當時是我的一個研究生Judith。

3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., I taught my advanced class.

從中午至下午3時，我教授我的介紹課，

"Where were you the 11th?" "Where were you the 10th?"

下午3時0至6時，我教授我的高級班。

「你在11日在哪裡？」「你在10日在哪裡？」

And I don't think he was expecting me to have such detailed records

"So this storage unit that you paid the rent on,

「你這個要支付的租金存儲單位，

so I was like, "Winter clothes that I have no use for in Florida.

這是在美國佛羅里達州坦帕市，

Furniture that I can't fit in my ratty apartment.

我說，「我在佛羅里達州沒有用的冬天衣服。

在我破爛的公寓沒有足夠空間放置的家具。

And he looks at me really confused and says, "No explosives?"

他看着我真的很困惑，說：「 沒有炸藥？」

I was like, "No, no. I'm pretty certain there were no explosives.

And if there were, I would have remembered that one."

我說，「 不，不。我敢肯定沒有炸藥，

but I think that anyone who talks to me for more than a couple of minutes

realizes I'm not exactly a terrorist threat.

但我覺得任何人跟我談超過幾分鐘，

會意識到我完全不是一個恐怖威脅。

and eventually after about an hour, hour and a half of just going back and forth,

he says, "Okay, I have enough information here.

最終經過約一個小時，一個半小時來來回回，

I'm going to pass this onto the Tampa office. They're the ones who initiated this.

他說，「好吧，我有足夠的資料在這裡，

They'll follow up with you, and we'll take care of it."

我會傳遞到坦帕的辦公室。是他們發起調查的。

他們將與你跟進，我們會關照他們。」

Basically this is the FBI offices in Tampa

基本上，這是在坦帕的聯邦調查局辦事處，

back and forth, not six months continuously.

By the way, you folks know that in the United States,

you can't take photographs of federal buildings,

順便說一下，你要知道在美國，

你不可以攝影聯邦大樓的照片，

So I spent a lot of time in this building.

所以我在這棟樓花了大量的時間。

"Have you ever witnessed or participated in any act

that may be detrimental to the United States or a foreign nation?"

「你有沒有曾經目睹或參與任何

And you also have to consider the state of mind you're in

可能會損害到美國或外國民族行動？ 」

You're basically face-to-face with someone

Or questions such as -- actually, during the polygraph,

面對着基本上決定生或死的人。

which was how it finally ended after nine consecutive of them --

或問題如 -- 實際上，在測謊器，

這是他們連續九次後決定終於結束 --

well the first one was, "Is your name Hasan?" "Yes."

"Are we in Florida?" "Yes." "Is today Tuesday?" "Yes."

第一個是，「Hasan是你的名字嗎？」「是的。」

Because you have to base it on a yes or no.

「我們是在佛羅里達州嗎？」「是的。」「今天是星期二嗎？」「是的。」

"Do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"

「你屬於任何想損害美國的團體嗎？」

So I was like, "Maybe you want to ask some of my colleagues that directly."

But they said, "Okay, aside from what we had discussed,

所以說，「也許你要直接問我的一些同事。」

do you belong to any groups that wish to harm the United States?"

但是他們說：「好了，除了我們討論的事情，

你屬於任何想損害美國的團體嗎？ 」

I was like, "I know. That's what I've been trying to tell you guys all along.

他們說，「 嘿，一切都無恙。」

我說，「 我知道，我一直都在試圖告訴你們，

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