but you had to audition

但你還是必須去試鏡

Yeah.

沒錯

for the role "Penny Wise".

為了爭取 Penny Wise 這個角色，而去試鏡

And you decided...

然後你決定...

Is this right that you were going to dress in the clown makeup for the audition?

你是真的要畫著小丑妝去試鏡嗎？

Uhm...

嗯...

Not entirely.

不全然是啦！

Also the audition itself...

這次試鏡是...

They were like:" hey, here is..."

他們說：「嘿！這裡有...」

I was in LA and they were like: "Do you want to audition for Penny Wise?"

我當時在洛杉磯，他們問我說：「你想要來試鏡 Penny Wise 的角色嗎？」

And that is not, you know, an opportunity that you get very often.

你知道的，這可不是常有的機會

It's such an amazing character to do.

這是一個非常棒的角色

And there's no real restrictions to what you can or cannot do,

而且沒有什麼可以做或什麼不可以做的實際限制

so I started incorporating things

所以我開始結合

that I wanted to incorporate like the lip and my weird eyes to mold out the character.

一些我想結合的特點去形塑出這個角色，像是我的嘴唇和我奇怪的眼睛

And I did my first audition, and it went really well.

然後我進行了第一場試鏡，而試鏡的過程很順利

And Andy, the director, you know, wanted me for a callback.

然後導演安迪想要我再試鏡一次

And it was down to four people.

那個時候剩下四位人選

And I guess two of the four that were left had come in clown face for the first audition.

我猜想，剩下來四位中的其中兩位，他們在第一次試鏡時是畫著小丑妝來的

I had not.

我當時沒有這麼做

So he wanted us who didn't come in with the clown face on to come with clown face.

所以他希望我們第一次沒有化小丑妝試鏡的人，第二次要畫小丑妝去試鏡

I didn't know really what to do with that

我當時真的不知道該怎麼畫小丑妝

but I was like "Okay, I guess I will get a little clown makeup on my face."

但我想：「好吧！我就來畫點小丑妝」

And it's the morning of ...and I get into my car...

然後那天早上...我坐進我的車裡...

And oh yeah!

喔對了！

So Andy, the director, he asked me the day before:

安迪導演在試鏡前一天問我：

"Can you figure out maybe a laugh?"

「你可以揣摩出一個小丑的笑法嗎？」

Because there wasn't really a laugh in the scene.

因為試鏡場景中其實沒有這個笑的橋段

"So work on the laugh!"

「所以你就揣摩一下小丑怎麼笑！」

I am like "Oh, Okay. Sure."

我就想：「喔，好啊，當然可以」

I was staying at this house and there were four people in the house.

我當時住的地方還有其他四個房客

And I felt sort of really self-conscious about practicing the clown laugh among four people.

我當時對於在有四個人的空間裡練習小丑笑聲感到很不自在

Sure.

那倒是真的

But I get in the car,

但當我坐進車中，

and you know when you are in the car,

你也知道當你在車裡時，

you get in this safe bubble of being in your own car.

你就像進入了自己的小世界

In clown face

戴著小丑的妝

And I am like:"Here it is! (clown laugh)"

我當時就想：「就是這一刻了！(發出小丑笑聲)」

And I just started the laugh.

我就開始揣摩小丑的笑

You were laughing in the car?

你邊開邊笑嗎？

Driving through Hollywood in clown face laughing like a maniac.

我就是戴著小丑的妝在好萊塢開車，然後笑得跟瘋子一樣

(Applause)

(掌聲)

The strangest thing

最奇怪的事情是

so the casting director's place, there is only street parking.

選角導演的家那邊只有路邊停車

So I had to park the car and go out and walk two minutes to the scene in clown face.

所以我必須停好車之後，戴著小丑妝，下車走個兩分鐘才到試鏡現場

And you just wearing the regular clothes by the way?

順便問一下，所以你是穿著平常穿的衣服去的嗎？

Yeah.

沒錯

Oh, your regular clothes with clown face.

喔！穿平常的衣服配上小丑妝

Oh my god!

我的天啊！

And I was like there's two ways to go about this

我當時想，現在這個情況，我只有兩種選擇

either I become really self-conscious being like "Sorry, I am an actor"

要嘛就是我表現得很不自在地說：「抱歉，我是一個演員。」

or I sort of try to be in the character.

或者是試著融入這個角色中

And I did the latter so I just walk and I was like (act like a clown)

而我選了後者，所以我就邊走邊像這樣 (表現得像小丑一樣)

You see all the construction workers and people walking around Hollywood

你可以看到所有走在好萊塢路上的建築工人和路人

and they sort of looked at me like not surprise at all.

他們用一種完全不感到驚訝的方式看著我

Yeah! Yeah!

沒錯！沒錯！

Because they just saw a spider-man with a fanny pack.

因為他們才剛看到一個蜘蛛人戴著腰包走過

It's just a morning in Hollywood!

這就只是好萊塢的日常早晨罷了！