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  • >> Dianne: Next in the Den: a

  • pair of entrepreneurs who say

  • they've brewed up the kind of

  • business the Dragons could only

  • dream of.

  • >> Deland Jessop: Good day,

  • Dragons, my name is Deland

  • Jessop and I'm from Vancouver,

  • B.C., and this is my business

  • partner, Joseph Fernandez.

  • And we're here to ask for

  • $10,000 for 5% of our business.

  • And we're here to talk to you

  • about what we believe is truly

  • the most revolutionary thing to

  • happen to coffee in, perhaps,

  • decades.

  • >> Joseph Fernandes: First and

  • foremost, let's try the coffee.

  • >> Bruce: All right.

  • >> Jim: Can't wait.

  • >> Arlene: All right.

  • >> Bruce: Thanks, Joseph.

  • >> Deland: Sir.

  • >> Jim: Thank you.

  • >> Deland: There you go, that's

  • for you as well.

  • >> Bruce: That's good coffee.

  • >> Deland: Thank you.

  • >> Bruce: It's no Balzac's, but

  • it's good coffee.

  • >> Deland: My dad owes you a

  • thank you too, by the way.

  • >> Bruce: Oh really?

  • >> Deland: Yes he does.

  • >> Bruce: Love it.

  • >> Jim: It's got a nice taste to

  • it, I like the taste.

  • >> Joseph: Now stop drinking

  • that coffee!

  • Unless you all want to go to

  • sleep.

  • >> Kevin: What?

  • >> Joseph: Let's take a moment

  • and get comfortable and I'll

  • explain.

  • >> Jim: Oh oh.

  • ♪ ♪

  • >> Joseph: Ahhh.

  • Dragons, the coffee you just

  • tasted, it was developed and

  • engineered to put you to sleep.

  • >> Bruce: Oh, my God, I just

  • drained it!

  • You kidding me?

  • >> Joseph: It's truly a

  • revolutionary product.

  • >> David: Good night, Bruce.

  • >> Bruce: Ohh!

  • >> Joseph: And the brand we're

  • developing is called Counting

  • Sheep.

  • It's seriously coffee that

  • seriously puts you to sleep.

  • >> Deland: That might seem

  • counter-intuitive when you think

  • about it.

  • But there's been a lot of market

  • research out there indicating

  • that women in particular, the

  • number-one reason why they drink

  • coffee is to actually help them

  • relax.

  • And I've got a wife at home who

  • is a terrible sleeper.

  • >> Bruce: She's not going to

  • like the fact you're sleeping

  • with this guy.

  • [Kevin laughs]

  • >> Arlene: Okay so women drink

  • coffee because they want to

  • relax.

  • >> Deland: They want to relax.

  • My wife, she can't touch decaf

  • after 3:00 in the afternoon

  • because even the decaf will keep

  • her awake.

  • >> Bruce: It's true.

  • >> Deland: So, I turned my house

  • into a laboratory for a year,

  • like mixing everything:

  • "Honey, try this.

  • Honey, try this."

  • And when she started asking for

  • it on a regular basis, I knew we

  • had something.

  • >> Kevin: So, I can taste a sort

  • of a nuttiness, hazel nuttiness

  • to this.

  • >> Arlene: What's in it?

  • >> Kevin: Is that the drug

  • inside that puts you to sleep?

  • >> Deland: It's not a drug.

  • >> Bruce: Melatonin?

  • >> Kevin: What is it?

  • >> Joseph: No.

  • Well, the coffee itself is

  • actually a unique blend.

  • I've been in the coffee business

  • my whole life.

  • >> Kevin: You don't want to tell

  • me what's in it.

  • >> Joseph: Well--I--I--I--

  • >> Kevin: Do I have to come down

  • there and strangle you?

  • What do you want to do?

  • >> Deland: What's in it is

  • Valerian roots and valerian

  • roots, it's a bitter-tasting

  • root.

  • >> Kevin: Valerian roots.

  • >> Arlene: Valerian roots?

  • >> Bruce: Yeah, very much.

  • >> Deland: Valerian roots.

  • So it's a bitter tasting root

  • that actually works really well

  • with the taste of coffee.

  • >> Bruce: It's a natural--

  • >> Deland: Valerian roots'

  • completely natural.

  • It's okay to take on a regular

  • basis.

  • >> Bruce: Very familiar with

  • Valerian.

  • >> Arlene: Are you the only

  • coffee on the market that's got

  • that in it?

  • >> Deland: There's nothing like

  • this that exists.

  • >> Arlene: I've got to tell you,

  • like sometimes you hear those

  • ideas, you go, "Why didn't

  • somebody think of that?

  • That seems so logical to me."

  • >> Joseph: You know what it is?

  • I've been doing this for so

  • long, I'm third generation.

  • I drink 30--40 cups of coffee

  • for quality control every single

  • day.

  • >> Arlene: Third generation

  • what?

  • >> Joseph: Coffee roaster.

  • >> Bruce: Really?

  • >> Joseph: My whole family's

  • been coffee roasting.

  • I do the technical side of--

  • >> Kevin: You drink 30 cups of

  • coffee a day?

  • Do they peel you off the roof

  • with a spatula?

  • >> Joseph: Well, it's

  • approximately 30, sometimes it's

  • 100.

  • >> Kevin: I bet you you're--"I'm

  • okay, are you okay, everything's

  • OK with you? Wow!"

  • >> Deland: So it's brand new

  • business and the timing with you

  • guys isn't great because we

  • literally just launched this

  • three weeks ago.

  • But at Coffee Fest in New York,

  • there was only one retailer

  • there, but they want us.

  • Right now we're doing a trial

  • this month and if it works out,

  • 1,000 stores, 50 to 60 bags per

  • store.

  • >> David: That's a good order.

  • >> Arlene: Here or the U.S.?

  • >> Deland: It's in the U.S.

  • >> Arlene: Who is it?

  • Can you say?

  • >> Deland: Bed, Bath and Beyond.

  • >> Deland: They were the only

  • ones.

  • >> Kevin: Bed Bath and Beyond?

  • >> Arlene: That's good.

  • That's actually a very good

  • retailer.

  • >> Kevin: Do they sell coffee

  • now?

  • >> Deland: Yes.

  • And, the other thing with them

  • is they're actually developing

  • coffee bars inside their stores,

  • like they're going to make a big

  • coffee push.

  • The buyer, she--she loved it.

  • She's excited about it.

  • It's exciting.

  • >> Arlene: [whispering] You want

  • equity?

  • Why the 5%, 10 K, what's with

  • that?

  • >> Deland: 5% for 10 K?

  • Well, I--

  • >> Kevin: $200,000 value.

  • >> Deland: If we were to come up

  • a couple of weeks ago, I might

  • have offered you a bit more.

  • But, uh, we don't want to give

  • up too much of this business.

  • >> Kevin: You've got to be more

  • realistic.

  • >> Bruce: Who owns the company

  • now?

  • >> Deland: There's four of us

  • that own at 25% each.

  • >> David: Well, I'll give you an

  • offer: I'll give you $25,000 for

  • 10%, so higher valuation than

  • you asked for, little bit more

  • capital to help you out to get

  • ready to go to market, and love

  • to work with you personally.

  • >> Deland: You were the first

  • business book I ever read,

  • actually.

  • >> David: Oh that's good, I hope

  • you enjoyed it.

  • >> Bruce: So, you've got the

  • Wealthy Barber, you're reading

  • his book.

  • You've got me hooking up your

  • dad.

  • >> Deland: Yeah my mother passed

  • away a number of years ago, and

  • he was very confused and I put

  • him on your site.

  • He stumbled through it a little

  • bit and I helped him out with

  • it.

  • >> Arlene: Nice.

  • >> Bruce: This has got a real

  • feel-good thing to it, you know?

  • >> Deland: Yeah.

  • >> Kevin: I'll give you what you

  • want.

  • Uh, 10 K for 5%, so I get some

  • equity.

  • But to make it interesting for

  • me, I want to make 5% in a

  • royalty so it incentivizes me to

  • go and open the doors you need.

  • >> Arlene: Um, I don't actually

  • want the equity because I think

  • you guys are going to work

  • harder if you keep your equity.

  • >> Kevin: What's the offer?

  • >> Arlene: I think a 5% royalty

  • feels real if we're going to

  • leave the equity in your hands.

  • >> Kevin: That sounds familiar.

  • >> Arlene: So, and Bruce, if you

  • want to come in with me, we're

  • in the coffee business already.

  • >> Joseph: Are you--are you

  • married to the royalty?

  • Would you be considerate of

  • equity in the company?

  • >> Bruce: One thing we've

  • learned about the coffee

  • business is it's not like you

  • can't afford it.

  • The margins are very healthy.

  • >> Arlene: 5% is reasonable.

  • >> Joseph: Is that a deal you

  • two are doing together?

  • >> Bruce: Yes it is.

  • And as one of your advisors, I

  • think we'd be amiss if we didn't

  • hear from Mr. Treliving down at

  • the end.

  • >> Deland: I was waiting to hear

  • back from him as well.

  • >> Jim: Well, we're in the

  • coffee business in a big way

  • right now, you know?

  • Uh, I don't know how many pounds

  • we go through in a year, but

  • it's tons.

  • Uh--hmmm.

  • >> Bruce: Jimmy, let me give you

  • some more coffee while you think

  • that over.

  • >> Jim: I've got lots.

  • >> Bruce: Seriously, you know

  • this helps.

  • No, this helps you think.

  • Keeps you snappy.

  • >> Jim: Yeah.

  • Hey listen, I've been up since

  • 5:00, I don't want to be snappy.

  • >> David: It's the opposite, it

  • makes him drowsy.

  • >> Jim: This is too good a deal

  • to go to sleep on.

  • >> Bruce: Chili--shh.

  • He doesn't know that.

  • >> Jim: I don't know if the

  • royalty's the answer right now.

  • I'd have to double up on

  • your--on your, um, on your--

  • >> Deland: You want 10%?

  • >> Jim: 10%.

  • >> Deland: OK, 10%, uh--

  • >> Jim: $10,000 for 10%.

  • >> Deland: Do you want to ask

  • questions or anything?

  • [whispering]

  • >> Bruce: I like how you guys

  • work together.

  • >> Arlene: Yeah.

  • >> Deland: I think, uh, one

  • quick question, if we wanted you

  • two on board.

  • I don't mind the royalty, it's

  • just that we want you guys long

  • term.

  • >> Arlene: If you're trying to

  • solve the fact that we'd be your

  • partners--

  • >> Deland: Long term, yes.

  • >> Arlene: We are your partners.

  • I'm telling you, there's no

  • one's going to work harder on a

  • royalty deal than I'll work on a

  • royalty deal.

  • >> Deland: OK, I--I think, I

  • think we're going to go with you

  • two.

  • >> Arlene: Awesome.

  • >> Deland: We really appreciate

  • it.

  • Thank you very much.

  • >> Joseph: Thank you, guys.

  • >> David: So what was it a 5%

  • royalty?

  • >> Arlene: Yeah, so a 5% royalty

  • and we'll talk about the details

  • after.

  • >> David: That is crazy.

  • >> Joseph: Thank you so much,

  • appreciate the offers.

  • Thank you.

  • >> Arlene: Partner.

  • >> Bruce: Thanks, partner.

  • >> Arlene: Yeah, in for a bean

  • in for a lot.

  • >> David: I still think it's

  • crazy they did that.

  • I cannot believe they just gave

  • you a third of their bottom line

  • for $10,000.

  • >> Deland: We were drinking a

  • little too much of that coffee

  • on set there, but really looking

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