I LOVE THE POPE, YOU

NEVER KNOW WHAT THIS POPE IS GOING TO DO NEXT.

THE NEXT THING

HE DID WAS MAKE STATEMENTS ABOUT ñ IN 1999 THERE WAS A NEW ROLE

UNDER WHICH THE VATICAN URGED PRIEST TO SAY IF SOMEONE COMES

TO YOU AND THEY SEEM TO BE HAVING A MENTAL PROBLEM IT IS

POSSIBLE IT IS NOT THE DEVIL, IT

MIGHT BE A MENTAL ILLNESS ISSUE IN WHICH CASE SHOW THEM TO A

DOCTOR.

THE POPE SETS THESE KIND OF AGENDA ITEMS.

HE SAYS THE

DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

THAT IS THE ONLY JOKE I CAME UP WITH AHEAD OF TIME TODAY.

>> THIS

IS MY INTERPRETATION, THAT

IS THE POPE SAYING I DON'T

BELIEVE THIS.

BUT IT IS STILL A POWERFUL FORCE IN THE CHURCH.

COME ON THOUGH, FIRST CONFIRM WITH A REAL DOCTOR.

AND THEN

CONFIRM WHAT THE NON- HUMAN SCIENTISTS CALL EXORCISTS.

HE IS

TRYING TO STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE WITHOUT STEPPING ON TOO

MANY CATHOLIC TOES.

IT IS STILL FUNNY TO SEE THE FRAMING.

HE

SAYS YOU SHOULD DO THE EXORCISM

ONLY IF ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

AND HE SAYS IF THERE IS A REAL

SPIRITUAL DISORDER AS OPPOSED TO

A FAKE SPIRITUAL DISORDER.

TRUMP TWEETS ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.

>>I THINK HE IS TRYING TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN

SPIRITUAL DISORDERS AND MENTAL ILLNESS.

THIS IS THE PURVIEW OF

THE CHURCH.

I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO COMMUNE AND DABBLE IN

THE OCCULT.

YOU SHOULD PROBABLY

SEE YOUR LOCAL RELIGIOUS EXPERT PENDING THEIR TRAINING.

I AM NOT

A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL BUT I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO

DABBLE WITH SPIRITUAL STUFF WHO NEED TO SEE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

>>I DON'T AGREE.

>>I SAW THE MOVIE THE EXORCIST SO I AM AN EXPERT.

I AM NOT A

DOCTOR BUT I DID WATCH GRAY'S

ANATOMY SEASONS.

>> GRADE A ANALYST HERE.

BRETT EHRLICH, ON OUR EXORCISM A TEAM.

>> THERE IS A PLACEBO EFFECT.

SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE ñ I THINK

THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO OVER DRAMATIZE AN EVENT WITH AN

AUTHORITATIVE FIGURE

AND LENDS CREDENCE TO WHATEVER IS WRONG

WITH THEM.

BUT THEY CAN GO THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE AND COME

OUT THE OTHER SIDE THE SAME WAY YOU CAN TAKE A SUGAR PILL AND

JUST BELIEVE YOU ARE CURED AND

BE CURED.

IT IS THE MAGIC FEATHER.

>> I SAW MY GRANDFATHER DO SOME MUSLIM VOODOO PRAYER READING.

IN

ISLAM YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WHISPER AND DO THIS BELOW.

EVEN AS A

16-YEAR-OLD I THOUGHT IT WAS

TOTAL BULLSHIT.

IT WAS THE PLACEBO EFFECT.

I KNOW MY

GRANDFATHER, HE DOESN'T BELIEVE

IT.

IT WORKED WITHOUT ANY REAL INTENT OR ANYTHING BEHIND IT.

YOU SOUND A LITTLE BIT MORE SPIRITUAL OR RELIGIOUS THAN I

AM, WHICH IS NOT A HARD THING TO DO.

>> I'M NOT TIPPING THE SCALES HERE.

>> THERE IS NO ñ YOU SHOULD NEVER DO AN EXORCISM IT IS NOT A

REAL THING.

YOU SHOULD GO TO A PSYCHIATRIST AND GET SOME REAL

HELP.

I ALWAYS TELL THE STORY OF BOBBY JINDAL.

I'M SORRY BUT

DEMONS DON'T EXIST AND THEY DON'T POSSESS YOU AND YOU CAN'T

GET THEM OUT BY DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL.

>> I AM NOT SUBSCRIBING TO EXORCISMS OR THESE TRAINED

PROFESSIONALS WHICH I DID NOT

KNOW EXISTED.

I THINK MENTAL ILLNESSES ARE REAL.

I THINK ALL

OF THAT IS RIDICULOUS BUT I DO THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN

INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE BELIEVE OR EXPERIENCE EMOTIONS AS

SPIRITS LIKE DEPRESSION.

I THINK IF YOU WANT TO GO TO YOUR

RELIGIOUS LEADER FOR PRAYER THEN

I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

I DO THINK ULTIMATELY IF YOU HAVE A

RESPONSIBLE RELIGIOUS LEADER HE

WILL TELL YOU TO GO SEE SOMEONE.

>>I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

I HEAR YOU, BUT I DON'T AGREE.

THE

ONE THING WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THAT IT IS AMUSING THAT THERE

ARE PROFESSIONAL EXORCISTS.

I LOVE WHEN THEY SAY GET A LOT OF

THESE AMATEUR EXORCISTS.

>> EITHER EXORCISM BOARDS YOU HAVE TO TAKE?

>> WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO GET ONE OF OUR REPORTERS TO DO AN

EXORCISM GRADUATION.