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  • (electronic instrumental music)

  • (tape rewinding)

  • - [Sally] Ever been to Disneyland?

  • That was definitely an E ticket.

  • - [Voiceover] Shuttle Control Houston.

  • That was Mission Specialist Sally Ride

  • comparing her flight to Disneyland.

  • - [Sally] I wish that there had

  • been another woman on my flight.

  • I wish that two of us had gone up together.

  • I think it would have been a lot easier.

  • - [Gloria] It’s tough being the first,

  • but youve done it with incredible grace.

  • You also have the only job in the world

  • that everybody understands.

  • (laughing)

  • - [Sally] My father, I think, was so grateful

  • when I became an astronaut because

  • he did not understand astrophysicist.

  • He couldn’t relate to that at all,

  • but astronaut was something he felt he understood.

  • - [Gloria] But you could see people all over the world

  • connecting with what you were doing.

  • - [Sally] Roughly half the people

  • in the world would love to be astronauts,

  • would give anything to trade places with you,

  • and the other half just can’t understand

  • why in the world you would do something that stupid.

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • - [Gloria] You don’t have 20-20 vision,

  • can you become an astronaut candidate?

  • I always thought that was a big disabling factor.

  • - [Sally] I think it used to be.

  • Now as long as it’s correctable to 20-20, it’s okay.

  • So you’d probably qualify.

  • (laughing)

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • I didn’t have any dreams about being an astronaut at all

  • and I don’t understand that because

  • as soon as the opportunity was open to me, I jumped at it.

  • And I instantly realized that that

  • was what I really wanted to do.

  • I took all the science classes that I could

  • all the way through junior high school and into high school.

  • I went to a girlsschool that really didn’t

  • have a strong science program at all when I was there.

  • At the time it was a classic school for girls,

  • with a good tennis team and a good English teacher

  • and essentially no math past eleventh grade

  • and no physics and no chemistry.

  • - [Gloria] I’m curious about the reception

  • that you got inside NASA.

  • What kind of thing happened to you?

  • - [Sally] Really the only bad moments

  • in our training involved the press.

  • The press was an added pressure on the flight for me

  • and whereas NASA appeared to be very

  • enlightened about flying women astronauts,

  • the press didn’t appear to be.

  • The things that they were concerned with

  • were not the same things that I was concerned with.

  • - [Gloria] For instance, the bathroom facilities.

  • - [Sally] The bathroom facilities.

  • - [Gloria] How much did you get asked that?

  • - [Sally] Just about every interview I got asked that.

  • Everybody wanted to know about

  • what kind of makeup I was taking up.

  • They didn’t care about how well-prepared

  • I was to operate the arm

  • or deploy communications satellites.

  • - [Gloria] Did NASA try to prepare you

  • for the press and the pressure?

  • - [Sally] Unfortunately, no, they don’t.

  • You know, in my case,

  • they took a graduate student in physics

  • who had spent her life in the basement

  • of a physics department with oscilloscopes

  • and suddenly put me in front of the press.

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • - [Gloria] What do you suppose are the dumbest

  • kinds of questions youve been asked to date?

  • - [Sally] Without a doubt,

  • I think the worst question that I have gotten

  • was whether I cried when we

  • got malfunctions in the simulator.

  • (laughing)

  • No.

  • - [Gloria] That surpassed even the one

  • about whether youre going to wear a bra or not.

  • Did somebody really ask you that?

  • - [Sally] No.

  • The press, I think, decided that that was a good question

  • for someone to have asked me

  • and for me to have answered but I never got that question.

  • - [Gloria] And they made you up quite a good response.

  • Something about "in a state of weightlessness

  • "it doesn’t matter," or something like that?

  • - [Sally] Yeah, it was something like that.

  • - [Gloria] They made up this whole thing?

  • - [Sally] Yeah, I was never asked that question.

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • - [Gloria] What about your feelings during the launch?

  • Was there any time that the enormity

  • of what was going on came over you?

  • - [Sally] The moment of the launch,

  • when the engines actually ignited

  • and the solid rockets lit,

  • everyone on the crew was, for a few seconds,

  • just overcome with what was about to happen to us.

  • But a year of training is a long time.

  • A year of sitting in simulators

  • and being told exactly what’s going to happen.

  • And you hear the sounds and you feel the vibrations.

  • And they prepare you very well and it worked.

  • We were able to overcome being overcome

  • and do the things that we were supposed to do.

  • - [Gloria] Just watching there at the launch,

  • there were people with tears streaming down their faces,

  • people I never would have expected

  • and yet they were all very moved by,

  • I guess, the human audacity of it.

  • - [Sally] I think that to imagine,

  • when you see the long trail of flame,

  • and then to imagine that there

  • are really people inside that, that’s really something.

  • Inside, of course,

  • you don’t see the long trail of flame

  • and what youre feeling is really more of an exhilaration.

  • - [Gloria] Well, there are lots of people

  • looking up there feeling proud,

  • not only of you up there but also on the ground.

  • Thank you.

  • - [Sally] Thank you.

  • (inspirational instrumental music)

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  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • - [Gloria] What do you think it

  • might be like in 2001, in fact?

  • What’s possible for us?

  • - [Sally] Well, 2001 is a long ways

  • in the future to speculate on,

  • but probably the next step after the space shuttle

  • is gonna be to be a space station.

  • I would foresee a space station

  • as being not just something that is orbiting the earth

  • and used for experimentation or whatever,

  • but would also be used as a launching platform

  • back to the Moon or to Mars.

  • And I think both of those are inevitable.

  • I’m sure well go back to the Moon

  • and I’m sure it’s only a matter of time

  • before we send people to Mars.

  • - [Gloria] Do you have any speculation

  • about how long it might be perhaps

  • before there are such things as peopled space colonies?

  • - [Sally] I’d guess that probably

  • by the year 2000 there will be.

  • I think that well have a space station

  • by the end of this decade.

  • - [Gloria] On which it would be possible

  • to live for long periods of time?

  • - [Sally] Yes.

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • - [Voiceover] This episode was

  • also supported by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation.

  • Enhancing public understanding

  • of science, technology and economic performance.

  • More information on Sloan at sloan.org.

  • (upbeat instrumental music)

  • (tape rewinding)

  • Subtitles by the Amara.org community

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