getting along with each other, I mean couples.

很困難，我是說情侶之間

Both of you seem very, very close.

你們似乎卻非常要好

What's your secret?

你們是如何辦到的？

- John Lennon: It's called love.

- 約翰・藍儂：這叫愛

And there's nothing that splits that up.

而且沒有任何東西能夠把它摧毀

I mean you get to work on it like it is a precious gift

當然，你需要花費心思在上面，像是對一個珍貴的禮物一樣，

and it's a plant and you've got to look after it

像是一株植物，要去照顧它、

and water it and you don't just sit on your backside,

幫它澆水，不能只坐在那裡，

and think: "Oh well, we're in love, so that's alright.

然後想說：「我們比此相愛，所以沒差。」

But that's the secret. It's all true folks.

可是這就是秘訣。真的是如此

All you need is love.

你只需要愛

I can't give you the formula for meeting the person that you're going to love.

我沒有辦法給你一個公式，讓你能找到你能夠愛的人

But it's around. And it happens.

但是那個人是存在的，而且你會遇見他

I mean it happened to me at 29 and Yoko at 32.

在我 29 歲，洋子 32 歲時發生了

- Yoko Ono: Whatever.

- 小野洋子：隨便啦

- And it's a long wait, you know, I didn't think it was...

- 而這是個很漫長的等待，我之前不認為⋯⋯

I thought it was an abstract thing.

我之前認為這是很抽象的

When I was singing about "All You Need is Love",

當我在唱 "All You Need is Love" 這首歌時，

I was talking about something I hadn't experienced.

歌詞是我沒有經歷過的事

I had experienced love for people in gusts

我曾經經歷過片段的，對他人的喜愛，

and love for things and trees and things like that,

對事物的喜愛，對樹木的喜愛，諸如此類，

but I hadn't experienced what I was singing about.

但我當時從未經歷過我的歌詞中的那種感覺

It's like anything, you sing about it first or write about it first,

就像其他事物一樣，會先拿來當寫作或歌頌的題材，

and find out what you were talking about after.

事後才會了解

- Well, I never thought that it would happen in this late stage of my life.

- 我從來沒想過會在我這把年紀才會遇見真愛

I mean I was just sort of... I was starting to give up hope. That kind of thing,

我的意思是⋯⋯我有點開始不再有奢望了。變得很

becoming very cynical and all that. But it happened and it's very, very, very good.

厭世，諸如此類。可是還是發生了，而且非常非常棒

- It's no good having... being with people you can dominate all the time.

- 擁有⋯⋯和你可以操控的人在一起一點好處都沒有

Or being with someone who can dominate you all the time.

或是和可以無時無刻不凌駕於你之上的人在一起，都不好

Because either one is boring.

因為兩者都令人乏味

But if you're with somebody who's got a ticking mind--

但如果你和很有想法的人在一起——

which was the best part about being with the Beatles when they were ticking,

當是和其他披頭四成員在一起最棒的部分就是大家的腦力激盪，

was they were ticking.

大家都很有共鳴

But it began to slow down.

但後來漸漸沒有了

- We certainly don't... - But with Yoko, it's

- 我們絕對沒有⋯⋯ - 但是和洋子在一起，

like living with 4 or 5 people.... It's far out.

就像是和四、五個人一起生活⋯⋯很精彩

- Well we do say, four of us

- 我們確實都說，我們四個人

are getting along very well these days aren't we? Or something like that.

最近相處得很愉快，不是嗎？諸如此類

- That'll do. They'll have us put away.

- 對。他們不得不把我們隔絕於外

- Marriage itself, as an official ceremony

- 結婚這件事，也就是儀式的部分，

seems to have somewhat gone out of style.

似乎越來越過時了

How come you decided to go through with a regular marriage?

為什麼你們還是舉辦婚禮呢？

- Because we turned out to be romantics.

- 因為我們後來發現我們是浪漫主義者

I mean we went through the whole intellectual bit about marriage,

我們確實有聊過結婚的意義，

where it's a bit of paper and some guy gives it to you.

其實就是這張紙，然後有人發給你這張紙

And that's all true.

確實是這樣

But when he gave it to us,

可是拿到那張紙的時候，

it was very emotional, and it wasn't even a...

是個讓人感動的一刻，其實根本也沒有⋯⋯

we couldn't even get a nice vicar or a bishop to do it.

我們沒有找到一個不錯的神父或主教來做這件事

It's completely against what we thought,

這完全違背我們的想法，

what I thought intellectually. I thought well it's never again, forget about this one.

我自己的想法。我想說，算了，應該不會再辦婚禮了

You know, what a joke, what a joke it all is.

這根本是場笑話

And the next minute, I'm standing there

可是下一秒，我就站在那裡

and she's crying and it's like we're soft kids.

她熱淚盈眶，我們就像小孩一樣心軟

So we're romantic, and it made a difference.

我們是浪漫主義者，這是關鍵

- Can there be such a thing as being too close?

- 有沒有所謂感情太好這種事？

Can that actually... Because in your case it doesn't seem that way.

這會不會⋯⋯因為對你們來說這不是問題

- Like stifling each other then. You see we're both mind people.

- 意思是，讓對方窒息。其實我們都是喜歡思考的人

So to be apart, we don't have to physically be apart.

所以想要彼此分開，不需要真的離開彼此

- Exactly. You have to say that.

- 是的，你必須這麼說

- I just said it.

- 我剛剛說了

- Oh, alright.

- 喔，對

- I just said it. Ding, dong, ding, dong. Next round.

- 嗯對，叮咚叮咚，下一個

- Right. But the point is this is an interesting example....

- 好喔，可是重點是這是很有趣的例子

- Well they're all brought up to think that

- 大家都被灌輸一種觀念

you mustn't give a child too much love,

不該給孩子太多的愛

A couple mustn't be together too much.

情侶不該花太多時間在一起

It's good for the husband to be working in America while the wife's in Brazil.

最好是先生在美國工作，太太留在巴西

We don't believe all that jazz.

我們不相信這套

That's just some social Christian jazz

這是那些一般社會、基督教的觀念，

that someone must have laid on us a few generations ago.

一定是有人在幾代以前灌輸給大家的

And you can't give a child too much love

你沒有辦法給孩子太多的愛

and if you love somebody, you can't be with them enough.

如果你真的很愛某個人，你們在一起的時間永遠不夠

There's no such thing. We don't want to be apart.

根本沒這回事。我們不想被拆散

I have a horror that one day, I'm going to have seen every movie in America

某一天我突然感到很害怕，擔心自己會把所有美國的電影都看完

and I'll have to go to some other country.

那個時候我就不得不搬到別的國家了

I just like TV. I think to me, it replaced the fireplace when I was a child.

我就是很喜歡看電視。對我來說，電視取代了我兒時的壁爐

They took the fire away and they put a TV in instead and I got hooked on it.

他們把壁爐移走了，取而代之的是電視，我也一下就著迷了

- You can see TV on many levels actually, many different levels.

- 其實你可以用很多種不同的方式看待電視

- I was a great one as a kid for standing

- 我小時候很擅長就站在窗前

and just looking out a window for hours and hours and hours.

好幾個小時，看外面的景色

Now the TV does that for me, except for the view changes immensely.

現在的電視也是同樣的道理，只是景色一下就改變了

One minute it's the saint, the next it's a rocket, or Vietnam.

一秒是宗教人物，再來是一架火箭，然後是越南的景象

It's very surreal. I leave it in on whether I have the sound on or not.

這很超現實。我會一直開著電視，不一定開聲音

- You don't have to go to India anymore.

- 你現在不需要真的去印度了

You don't have to go anywhere. You can just be here.

你不需要去任何地方，可以就待在這裡

- It's like Paul Kraston said,

- 就像 Paul Kraston 說的那樣：

"All I ask in life is a water bed, a TV and a typewriter."

「在一生中我只想要一張水床、一台電視，和一台打字機。」

Well, I'll just have an ordinary bed, a TV and a guitar.

我只想要一張普通的床、一台電視，和一把吉他

Apart from Yoko.

還有洋子