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謝謝您能來
Thank you for coming.
謝謝
>> Move us all, thank you.
這門課太棒了
Cool, so you guys this is awesome,
前面幾節課我一直關注著
I've been watching the lectures in this course,
講的真是太棒了!
isn't it absolutely amazing the content?
今天只能委屈大家聽我講了
And now you're stuck with me today.
我們正式開始
>> We'll, so how that goes.
在Paul演講的問答環節中
Unlike Paul, when he was talking in the Q and A,
同學們問他如果他現在上大學的話他會學什麼專業?
and you guys asked him what he would do if he was at
他回答說是物理
college today and
我大學時學的就是物理
he said physics, I actually indulged myself.
在劍橋讀物理
I went in, I went and did physics,
我認為物理很棒從中學到的知識
did physics at Cambridge and I think physics is
可以為其他領域所用
an amazing class to give you transferable skills that
今天大家來聽的不是這個問題
are really useful in other areas.
今天講的不是物理
But I guess that's not,
我自費學習了大學網絡營銷課程直接營銷課程
that's not why you're listening to me today.
我從上世紀90年代開始接觸SEO(搜索引擎優化)
Like, physics isn't the class, like, so I paid for
我創立了一家紙飛機網站並壟斷了這個市場
college doing online marketing.
在紙飛機這個小眾市場
Direct sales marketing.
有著壟斷地位
I started with SEO in the 1990s.
當你準備創業的時候
I created a paper airplane site.
要從長遠角度考慮一下市場有多大紙飛機網站市場不大
I had a monopoly.
但是就是這個經歷教會了我如何做SEO
In the small niche market of
當時用的搜索引擎是Altavista
paper airplanes globally which you know,
做SEO的方法是
when you want to start a startup also see how big
把白底白字的內容放在網頁下方不明顯的位置
the market could be in the long term it wasn't great.
如果該文本中出現20到30個紙飛機字樣
But what that taught me was how to do SEO.
在Altavista搜索排名中就能佔首位
And back in those days it was Altavista, and
上世紀90年代就是這樣做SEO的
the way to do SEO was to have white text on
很容易上手
a white background five pages below the fold.
我上大學時學的是物理專業
And you would rank top of Alta Vista if you just paper
當時我想紙飛機可以讓我變酷
airplanes 20 or 30 times in that text.
我當時是物理班上最書呆子的了
And that was how you won at SEO in the 1990s.
所以我就創建了雞尾酒網站
Like it was a really easy, easy skill to learn.
我就是在這個時候學習了編程
When I went to college, being a physicist,
那個網站後來發展成了英國最大的雞尾酒網站
I thought paper airplanes would make me cool, and
當Google嶄露頭角的時候上述經歷使得我做SEO游刃有餘
I was actually the most nerdy person in
在Google上做SEO時需要考慮網頁排名算法
the physics class, so I created a cocktail site.
需要考慮有多少網頁鏈接到你的網站上
Which was how I learned to program.
此時
And that grew to be the largest cocktail site in
如果雅虎黃頁鏈接了你的網站
the UK.
並且網頁底部也有白底白字的關鍵詞的話
And that really got me into SEO properly when
你的網站就可以在谷歌頁面排名中高居榜首
Google launched.
當谷歌有了關鍵字廣告
So with Google, you had to worry about page rank, and
此時我開始自己做生意
you had to worry about getting links
也就是先從谷歌買下廣告鏈接
back to your site.
再通過會員程序為eBay打廣告賺錢
Which basically, at that stage,
差不多能有20%的利潤
meant one link from the Yahoo directory.
這些經歷讓我率先進入了
Got you to the top listing in Google if you had white
目前大家所說的
text, on a white background, below the fold, as well.
增長或是增長黑客領域
When Google launched AdWords that's when I
在我看來就是網絡營銷而已
really started to learn how to do all my marketing.
利用各種渠道達到期望目標
And that was buying paid clicks from Google, and
這就是我學營銷的經歷
reselling them to eBay for
我本想成為一名物理學家結果成了營銷人士
a small margin of like 20% using our affiliate program.
利用互聯網進行營銷
And that was what really kicked me into overdrive
你們認為什麼對於增長最重要? 59 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:26,940 你們聽過很多講座了這個話題被討論很多次了 60 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:28,970 你們認為什麼對於增長最重要?
into doing what everyone nowadays talks about is
告訴我個答案
growth, or growth hacking, or growth marketing.
好產品
And in my mind it's just internet marketing.
好產品對的
Using whatever channel you
好產品會帶來什麼呢?
can to get whatever output you want.
顧客
And that's how I paid for college and how I
顧客需要顧客做什麼呢?
ended up going from being a physicist to a marketer and
傳播口碑坐著回答就行
transitioning to the dark side of the force.
有人說用戶留存對的
So what do you think matters most for growth.
用戶留存對於增長最重要
You've had loads of lectures and
目前Facebook有非常優秀的增長團隊
people have said it over and over, so
能成為其中一員我非常榮幸
what do you guys think matters most for growth?
重要的是我們有非常棒的產品
Someone give me an answer.
Facebook的增長團隊發揮著關鍵作用
>> Great product.
因為我們推銷的產品
>> Great product.
全世界人民都想用
I agree, great product.
這點非常贊
What does great product lead to?
一旦讓人們接觸到Facebook 他們就會愛上Facebook
>> Customers.
我給很多創業公司提供過諮詢服務
>> Customers.
我最得意的是與Airbnb的合作我還跟Coursera合作過
And what do you need those customers to do?
我還跟其他一些不如這幾家公司有名的一些公司合作過
>> Spread the word.
有一件事被反複印證
Someone said stay on your site.
那就是如果你看一下這條曲線
Someone said that.
用戶活躍度隨用戶獲取時間的變化
That's it. Retention.
如果你能得到
Retention is the single most important thing for growth.
幾乎平行於x軸的用戶留存曲線
Now we have an awesome growth team at Facebook, and
那麼你的公司就是成功的
I'm super proud to work on it.
你的產品適合一定的市場
But the truth of
用戶數飛漲的大部分公司
the matter is we have a fantastic product.
會使用增長黑客病毒式傳播和其他一些手段
But getting to work on growth at Facebook is
我盡量不罵他們但有時會忍不住
a massive privilege, because we're promoting something
他們的用戶留存曲線沿X軸下滑
that everyone in the world really wants to use.
最終與X軸相交
Which is absolutely incredible.
當我把這個圖展示給別人看時
If we can get people on, and
大部分人說:不錯啊
get them ramped up, they stick on Facebook.
當你開創Facebook的增長小組時
So many times I go advise multiple startups,
Facebook每天有100萬新用戶
my favorite was working with Airbnb, but
或是已經有了5000萬用戶
I've worked with Coursera, I've worked with
有很多人訪問Facebook
other ones that haven't done as well as those guys.
你有大量的數據進行統計
But the one thing that is true over, and over, and
我們把同樣的方法用在了B2B業務增長上
over again is if you look at this curve.
吸引用戶註冊自助廣告服務
The sentiment, the active,
我們用這種方法
versus number of days from acquisition.
來分析我們在該市場中的增長
If you end up with a retention curve that
當時
ascentotes to a line parallel to the x axis.
當我加入Facebook時該產品推出只有3天
You have a viable business, and
推出該產品90天后
you have product market fit for some subset of market.
我們就能用這個方法來計算
But most of the companies that you see fly up,
一位廣告商一年創造的價值
we talk about growth hacking and virality and
我們預測出的數值
all of this other stuff.
是真實值的97%
I'm gonna try so hard not to swear, but it'll happen.
我認為觀察用戶留存曲線非常重要
Their attention curve slopes down towards the X-axis, and
我們是這麼操作的
in the end intercepts the X-axis.
大家看這裡
Now when I show this chart to
紅色線表示
most people they say that's all well and good.
使用產品一定時間的用戶數
You had a million people a day in terms of
有些人或是說沒有人
growth when you started the growth team at Facebook, or
有些人一直使用你的產品
you were at 50 million users.
所有的用戶至少有一天使用了你的產品
You had a lot of people joining the site so
如果你的產品推出一年了
you had a ton of data to do this.
使用了366天的用戶數為零
We used this same methodology for
說得通嗎?好的
our B to B growth.
然後你這麼來看用戶數
Getting people to sign up as self-service advertisers,
用戶至少使用了一天你的產品
we used this analysis to understand how much
月度活躍用戶佔多大百分比呢?
growth we were gonna have in that market as well.
顯然第一個月是100%
And in that place,
因為第一個月只要是使用過一天的都算活躍的
when I joined Facebook, the product was three days old.
然後看第31天
And within 90 days of the product launching,
註冊31天后
we were able to use this technique to be able to
月度活躍用戶佔多大百分比呢?看第32天
figure out what the one year value of an advertiser was,
看第33天看第34天
and we predicted it for the first year to 97% of
這樣你就可以--
what the number turned out to be.
假設只有10000名用戶
So I think it's very important to look at
就能得到你的產品的
your attention curve, and this is how we did it.
用戶留存曲線
If you see here.
你就可以判斷其走向
This red line is number of users,
圖的右邊會有一些波動
who have been on your product for
我用的不是真實數據
a certain number of days.
圖的右邊會有一些波動
So, a bunch of people, that should say zero,
不過你能看得出來
a bunch of people will have been on your product,
線是不是平的
all of your users will have been on it at least one day.
如果不是平的就不要談什麼增長策略了
But, if your product's been around a year, or whatever,
不要談什麼病毒式增長不要雇增長黑客
you will have zero users who've been on it 366 days.
專心把產品搞好
Make sense?
因為歸根結底如Sam在本課開始提到的
The curves sensible?
創意產品團隊執行
Cool.
如果沒有好產品
So what you then do is look for all of your users,
執行增長策略也沒什麼意義
who have been on your product one day.
因為增長不了
What percentage of them are monthly active.
我在Facebook內部看到的
100% for the first 30 days obviously,
我在合作過的創業公司中看到的
because monthly active they all signed up on one day.
最主要的問題是沒有好產品但是他們認為有
But then you look at 31.
下一個顯然的問題
Every single user, on their 31st day after registration,
人們反復問的一個問題是
what percentage of them were monthly active, 32nd day,
好的用戶留存率什麼樣?
33rd day, 34th day?
你可能說:我們公司只有5%的留存率
And that allows you,
(Facebook的留存率要好一些)
with only something like 10,000 customers or
所以我們是失敗的
whatever, to get a real idea of what this curve is
當人們問我好的用戶留存率什麼樣時我會生氣
gonna look like for your product.
因為可以自己算啊
And you're gonna be able to tell does it asymptote.
我喜歡這個故事可能有點像“閒篇子”
And it'll get noisy out towards the right-hand side.
我在這裡給大家講講
Like I'm not using real data.
這個故事的後半部分比較有用
It'll get noisy out towards the right hand side, but
這幅三位一體核試驗圖片發佈於
you'll be able to get a handle on,
1950年的Life雜誌上
does this curve flatten out or does it not.
有個叫Geoffrey Taylor的人有同學知道Geoffrey Taylor嗎?
If it doesn't flatten out, don't go and
很棒有人知道
do growth tactics, don't go and
Geoffrey Taylor是一名英國物理學家
do virality, don't hire a growth hacker.
他後來獲得了諾貝爾獎
Focus on getting product market fit.
他能根據這幅圖片
Because in the end,
求出原子彈的威力
as Sam said in the beginning of this course,
這是美國的一顆原子彈
idea, product, team, execution.
俄羅斯發布了相似的圖片
If you don't have a great product,
不過是用因次推論做出來的
there's no point executing well on growing it.
這種技巧
Because it won't grow.
是我在英國讀物理時
Number one problem I've seen inside Facebook for
學到的最好的方法
new products, number one problem I've seen for
其原理就是
startups I ever devised has been, they don't actually
看一下問題中涉及的量綱
have product market fit when they think they do.
如果想計算出能量
So the next obvious question that people ask over and
能量等於牛頓·米
over and over again is okay, so
牛頓等於千克·米/秒^2
what does good retention look like?
所以能量就等於千克·米^2/秒^2
Sure I can have five percent retention but
所以你就要算出
I'm guessing that Facebook had better than that, so
其中各個值具體是多少
that's not gonna be a successful business.
此處的質量是球體的體積
And I get really pissed off when
因此可以把米的立方代進去
people ask me that question.
那麼就變成了能量等於米^5/秒^2
Because I think you can figure it out.
能據此計算出
And I love this story, and this is like my one
原子彈的威力
gratuitous story that I love that I'm throwing in here,
計算出俄羅斯和美國的原子彈的威力比
so the rest of it may not be as gratuitous.
從而解密了
But this is a picture that was published in
當時世界的頂級機密
Life magazine in 1950 of
這個是很難的問題
one of the Trinity nuclear bomb tests.
計算出Facebook的用戶留存並不困難
And there's a guy,
全世界有多少網民?
Geoffrey Taylor, who's heard of Geoffrey Taylor.
說個大體數
Awesome.
有人說24億有人說23億差不多就是這麼個數
Yes.
Facebook在中國是被禁的那麼還有多少網民?
Someone's heard of him.
約10億
Geoffrey Taylor was a British physicist,
約20億?好的20億網民
who ended up actually winning the Nobel Prize.
Facebook在上次收益報告中稱
And he was able to figure out from looking at
約有13億活躍用戶
this picture, what the power of the atomic bomb was,
可以把兩個數相除
the U.S. atomic bomb.
結果是不准確的
And Russian's were publishing similar pictures,
當然結果不准確
just using dimensional reasoning.
但是可以讓你大體了解
And dimensional reasoning is I think,
Facebook的用戶留存率
one of the best skills that I learned during my
如果把全世界網民都算上的話
time studying physics back in the U.K..
得出的結果要比剛才的數大一些
And what dimensional reasoning is, is you look at
同理如果看Whats App的話
the dimensions that are involved in a problem.
他們公司宣稱有6億活躍用戶
So, you wanna figure out energy?
有多少人有智能手機呢?你可以估算出來
Newtons, meters, newtons are kilograms, meters are second
這個數據比較好找
to the minus 2, so you've got kilograms,
從而可以大體知道有多少用戶
meters squared, seconds to the minus 2,
Amazon很火
and then you try and figure out how you can get each of
幾乎所有美國人都註冊了
those numbers from what data you have.
你可以知道在美國有多少網民
So, the mass.
從他們公佈的數據
Is the volume of this sphere.
可以推出亞馬遜有多少用戶存留
So, that's a meter cubed you throw in there.
公司類型不同
So you've got meters the 5 over seconds the minus 2,
用於判斷公司是否成功的留存率標準也不同
and he was able to use that to just figure out
如果是電子商務公司
what the power of this atomic bomb was,
月度活躍用戶有20%或30%的話
what the ratios of the power between the Russian and
公司經營得就很好
US atomic bomb, and essentially reveal one of
如果是社交網絡公司
the top secrets that existed in the world at that time.
第一批註冊用戶
That's a hard problem.
留存率不足80%的話
Figuring out what
該公司就不會火起來
Facebook's retention rate is not a hard problem.
因此用戶留存率多少算成功
How many people are there on the internet?
得取決於評判標準
Give or take someone throw something out.
你需要有一套方法
>> 2.4 billion, 2.3 billion.
找出可以進行比較的模板
Something like that right?
你可以以此為標尺
Okay, Facebook's banned in China.
看自己處於什麼位置才算成功了
So.
因此用戶留存率對於增長最重要
What now?
用戶留存來源於好創意
>> About a billion.
將創意轉化為好產品並且產品適合市場
>> About 2 billion?
看一個產品的留存率是否好
2 billion. So
使用同期群分析的話
2 billion people on the internet.
就要看註冊用戶
Facebook in their last earnings call
是否長期使用
said something around 1.3 billion in
一個好方法就是
terms of the number of active users.
看產品的前100個用戶
You can divide those numbers by each other.
前1000個用戶前10000個用戶
And yeah, that won't give you the right answer.
他們能被長期留住嗎?
Course it's not gonna give you the right answer.
那麼如何進行增長?
But it's gonna give you
假如你的產品有非常棒的市場
close enough to a ballpark figure.
你們是家電子商務公司
Of what the retention rate looks like for Facebook.
每個月有60%的回頭客購買商品
If we signed everyone on the internet up, and
能做到這樣的話就很棒了
then you will know it is higher than that.
你據此判斷是時候擴張了
Similarly if you look at Whats App, they've announced
現在就到了前面講的最後一步——執行了
six hundred million active users.
此時是增長團隊進入的契機
How many people have smart phones?
我的觀點與別人不同
You can figure out that number.
我認為初創業公司不需要增長團隊
That number is out knocking around.
還是說錯話了
It can give an idea of how many users there are.
不需要增長團隊
Amazon has had a pop at
初創業公司不需要專門的增長團隊
signing up almost everyone in the United States.
整個團隊就是增長團隊
You know how many people are online in the US, and
CEO就是增長團隊的隊長
you've got a good idea of how many
你需要有人為你指明方向你需要一顆“北極星”
customers Amazon are from the numbers they throw out.
這幅圖片來自NASA
Different verticals need different terminal retention
你需要有人為公司的發展
rates for them to have successful businesses.
指明方向
If you're in e-commerce and you're retaining on
我認為
a monthly active basis like 20, 30% of your users,
這個人就是公司的領導人
you're probably gonna do pretty well.
Mark就是很好的例子
If you're in social media, and
當Facebook面世時
your first batch of people signing up to
很多公司都在曬用戶數
your product are not like 80% retained,
你可以看到MySpace的註冊用戶數
you're not gonna have a massive social media site.
你可以看到Compact的註冊用戶數
And so, it really depends on the vertical you're in,
註冊用戶數隨處可見
what the retention rates are.
但是Mark曬的是月度活躍用戶數
What you need to do is have the tools to
在公司內部他也要求大家以此為奮鬥目標
think about who out there is comparable.
他說的要讓大家都上Facebook
And how you can look at it and say,
指的是大家都在Facebook上活躍
am I anywhere close to what real success looks like in
而不是讓大家都註冊Facebook
this vertical?
月度活躍用戶數是Facebook內部關注的指標
So retention is
也是對外公佈的指標
the single most important thing for growth.
就是這個指標把全世界用戶吸引過來
And retention comes from having a great idea, and
這個指標是我們所關心的數據
a great product to back up that idea and
Whats App的Jan
great product market fit.
是另一個好例子
The way we look at whether a product has great retention
Jan一直公佈的是發送信息數目
or not is whether or not the users who install it.
發送量對於消息應用是
Actually stay on it long term,
最重要的
when you normalize on a cohort basis, and
如果用戶每天都用
I think that's a really good methodology for
但是一天只發一條信息
looking at your product and saying, okay, the first 100,
這樣的話你們家的應用應該不是該用戶最常用的
the first 1,000, the first 10,000 people I get on this,
因此Jan公佈的是消息數目
will they be retained in the long run?
Airbnb關心的是房間預定晚數
So now how do you attack operating for growth?
他們公佈的也是這個數據
Let's say you have awesome product market fit.
例如在Tech Crunch上發布的數據圖
You have built an e-commerce site and you have 60% of
他們公司總是與
people coming back every single month and
世界上最大的連鎖酒店的預定晚數進行比較
making a purchase from you.
不同的公司有不同的北極星
Which would be absolutely fantastic.
北極星不一定是
How do you take that and say now it's time to scale?
月度活躍用戶數
Now it's time to
對於eBay來說最關心的是成交額
execute was the last thing in your thought.
即顧客在eBay上實際買了多少錢的東西
Right?
局外人傾向於用收入來評價eBay
And that's where I think growth teams come in.
實際上
Like my contrarian viewpoint, or
Benedict Evans將Amazon的市場進行了完美的分析
whatever is if you're a start-up you
很有意思
shouldn't have a growth team.
將第三方業務與自營業務進行對照
>> Damn it.
EBay全是第三方業務
So close.
雖然外界以收入來評判eBay
Halfway through and I failed.
但eBay實際的成交額是其十倍甚至以上
You shouldn't have a growth team.
成交額才是eBay內部關注
Start-ups should not have growth teams.
並以此為奮鬥目標的
The whole company should be the growth team.
關於增長不同的公司
The CEO.
有不同的“北極星”
Should be the head of growth.
在增長的操作過程中
You need someone to set a North Star for
擁有並定義“北極星”
you, gratuitous shot of the, you know, NASA page.
是很重要的
You need someone to set a North Star for
北極星重要的原因是
you about where the company wants to go.
一旦公司的人數不止你一個
And that person needs to be the person leading
你就不能夠控制其他每個人的行為
the company, in my opinion, from what I've seen.
我可以很確定地跟你講我現在管理著100個人
And Mark is a fantastic example of that.
我根本沒法控制他們每個人
Back when Facebook started lots of people were
我可以給一個員工分配具體的任務
putting out their registered user numbers.
但是其他的99名員工該干什麼就乾什麼
Right? You'd see registered user
什麼對於公司至關重要
numbers for MySpace.
大家並不明確
You'd see registered user numbers for Compact.
對於eBay來講
You'd see registered user numbers.
大家可以關注收入
Mark put out monthly active users as the number both
可以關注出貨量
internally he held everyone to.
可以關注
And said we need everyone on Facebook, but
eBay上商品的數量
that means everyone active on Facebook.
Pierre Meg和John
Not everyone signed up to Facebook.
是eBay的領導人
So monthly active people was the number internally.
他們說要以成交額為衡量標準
And it was also the number he published externally.
還有我們網站在電子商務領域市場份額所佔的比率
It was the number he made the whole world hold
這對eBay來說才是最重要的
Facebook to as the number that we cared about.
這就意味著其他人在開會
If you look at what Yam has done with What's Up I
有的員工沒有參與
think it's another great example.
當這些人坐在電腦前
He always published send numbers.
思考要上架何種產品
If you're a messaging application,
要添加何種特徵時
sends is probably the single most important number.
他們頭腦清醒要以成交額為奮鬥目標
If people use you once a day.
而不是收入
Maybe that's great, but they send one message.
不以註冊用戶數為目標
They, you're not really their primary messaging
註冊用戶數不重要長期用戶才重要
mechanism, so Yan published the sentence number.
用個例子來說明2004年我與eBay合作時
Right?
我們改變了向合作網站支付的方式
Inside AvianB they talk about nice book, and
當時會員程序有點過時了
they also published that in all of the,
會員程序的思想
like, infographics that you see inside Tech Crunch.
本質上就是 349 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,240 給增加你網站流量的貢獻者報酬 350 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,380 通常的做法是 351 00:15:04,380 --> 00:15:06,040 鏈接到不同的大型的營銷網站上 352 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,550 這裡面有很多很好的故事 353 00:15:09,550 --> 00:15:13,480 用戶確認註冊後我們會支付報酬
They always benchmark themselves against how many
合作網站
nights booked they
爭相為我們推薦用戶
have compared to the largest hotel chains in the world.
後來我們改變了支付模式
They have, each of these companies,
只有用戶確認註冊並使用網站服務後才付報酬
a different north star.
用戶要確認註冊信息並在eBay上競價
The north start doesn't have to be
或是買東西或是拍賣東西這樣我們才給合作網站支付報酬
monthly active users for every different vertical.
我們做出改變之後一夜間
For eBay, when I was there,
合作網站推薦的確認註冊用戶
it was gross merchandised volume.
下降了20%
How much stuff did people actually buy through eBay.
但是活躍註冊用戶數(ACRU)只下降了5%
Everyone externally tends to judge eBay based on revenue.
註冊用戶數和活躍註冊用戶數的比值上升了
Actually, Benedict Evans has
並且ACRU的增長加快
done this amazing breakdown of Amazon's business.
如果想增加確認註冊用戶數(CRU)可以這麼做
Which is really interesting.
如果有人搜索“蹦床”
To look at their marketplace business versus their
你就把他們引導到你們的註冊頁面上
direct business.
為了能獲取蹦床信息
EBay is all marketplace business, right.
他們不得不註冊並確認
So eBay's being judged by its revenue when it
如果你想增加ACRU 你就把他們引導到
actually has ten times, or whatever more
eBay的蹦床搜索頁面上
gross merchandised volume going through the site.
他们看到了自己想买的东西
And that was the number that eBay looked at when I
很激动 所以立马注册并购买
was inside there, and optimized for.
如果只是想增加CRU
So every different company when it
当顾客登录网站时 没有那种激动人心的时刻
thinks about growth needs a different north star.
这就是要考虑的第2个重要的东西
But when you are operating for
就是 如何制造激动时刻
growth, it is critical that you have that north star and
让顾客恋上你的网站
you define it as a leader.
在准备本课的讲义时
The reason this matters is.
有很多东西都很精彩 都想把链接给大家
The second you have more than one person working on
我不知道如何取舍
anything, you cannot control what everyone else is doing.
我前面介绍的留存曲线
Right?
有一个链接是
I promise you,
Danny Ferrante讲关于留存曲线的
having now might have hit 100 people I'm managing,
关于激动时刻 有两个视频链接
I have no control.
一个是Chimoff讲增长的
It's all influence.
他在Facebook创立了增长团队
Yes, I can say to one person, do this one thing.
另一个是我的朋友Naomi和我四年前
But then the other 99
讲当时我们是如何看待增长的
are gonna do whatever the hell they want.
这两个视频
And the thing is, it's not clear to everybody what
都涉及到激动时刻
the most important thing is a for a company.
你们在注册Facebook时
It would be very easy inside eBay for
激动时刻是什麼?
people to say, you know what?
当你按下注册按钮时
We should focus on revenue.
此时的激动时刻是什麼?
Or you know what? We should focus on
几年前Mark在YC谈到过
the number of people buying from us.
看到朋友在使用
Or you know what? We should focus on
看到朋友在使用 就是这样简单
how many people list items on eBay.
我跟很多公司交流过
And Pierre and Meg and John.
他们想方设法把业务弄得很复杂
Those guys, those various leaders, always said no,
其实很简单 当你在Facebook
it's the amount of gross merchandise volume that
第一次看到朋友的照片时
goes through our site.
你就知道了这个网站是干什麼的
It's the percentage of
Zuckberg在YC讲到过
e-commerce that goes through our site.
让用户在2周内找到10个朋友
That is what really matters for this company.
这就是我们关注的原因
Which means when people are having a conversation and
上社交网站的第一要务是
you're not in the room, when they're sitting in front of
和朋友联系
their computer screen and thinking about how they
如果没有好友 你的新鲜事里就是空空的
build this particular product or
你必然不会再光顾这个网站了
this particular feature.
你不会收到任何通知
In their head,
不会有朋友告诉你
it's gonna be clear to them that it's not about revenue.
他们错过的事情
It's about gross merchandise volume.
对于Facebook而言 激动时刻就是
Or it's not about getting more registrations.
你在该网站上看到了你的朋友 这也我们的增长动力
Registrations don't matter unless they become long term
如果你看LinkedIn的注册流程
active users.
或是看Twitter的注册流程
A great example of this is when I was at Ebay in 2004.
或是看WhatsApp 当你注册时
We changed the way we paid our affiliates for
这些社交服务的首要任务是
new users.
尽快向你展示
And affiliate programs are a bit out of fashion these
你想关注 联系 发信息的人已经注册了
days, but
在社交领域 这是最重要的
the idea of an affiliate program is essentially you
想想Airbnb 想想eBay
pay anyone on the internet.
至于eBay 激动时刻就是
A referral for sending traffic to your site.
你在上面看到了非常想要的
But it's mostly about getting access to like,
糖果盒或者激光笔
big marketers who do it on their own,
当你看到了你非常想要的东西
like separately and
这就是激动时刻
some really good stories from this.
至于Airbnb 激动时刻就是
We were paying for confirmed registered users.
你看到了一间很酷的房间
So all of our affiliates were aligned,
你推门而入的那一刻
they're out getting confirmed registered users,
反过来也类似 当你把房子挂出去
to the base site.
你第一次收到房租 这就是激动时刻
We changed our payment model to pay for
当你把东西挂在eBay上
activated confirmed registered users.
第一次卖出去的时候 这就是激动时刻
So you had to confirm your account and
这一点 大家可以问Brian
then bid on an item, or buy an item or
因为他们公司做了一个很有意思的版块
list an item, to become someone that we paid for.
分享了
Overnight when we made that change,
用户在Airbnb上的
we lost something like 20% of confirmed registered
激动时刻
users that were being driven by the affiliates.
他会给大家上三节课 对吧?
But the ACIUs only dropped by about 5%.
他很擅长讲激动时刻
The ratio of CIU to ACIU went up, and
让顾客感受到爱与喜悦等等
then the growth of ACIUs, massively accelerated.
想想你的产品的激动时刻
The cause of this was if you wanna drive CRUs if
让顾客尽快感受到激动时刻
someone searches for
这样 你的留存曲线就上升了
a trampoline, you land them on the registration page cuz
你的留存率会很容易地从50%上升到60%
they think they have to register and
上升到70%
confirm, before they get that trampoline.
只要你能让用户感受到激动时刻
If you wanna drive ACRUs you land them on the search
并恋上你的网站 就能做到
results page within eBay for trampolines so they can see
关于第二点 硅谷的所有人对此的想法都是错的
the thing they want to buy, get excited about it and
就是我们认为要增长就必须去优化
register when they want to buy it.
我最喜欢的例子是 消息推送
And if you drive just CRUs people don't
我跟很多公司谈过这个问题 给很多公司提过建议
have an amazing,
每个公司对于消息推送的态度都是
magic moment on eBay when they visit the site.
消息推送太多了
And that's the next most important thing to
得优化消息推送
think about, is how do you drive towards the magic
忠实用户会因为消息推送太多
moment that gets people hooked on your service?
而弃用吗?
So in the lecture notes for
不会的话 为什麼要进行优化呢?
this course I've stuck in a bunch of links to people I
这些用户很可能是成年人 他们会自动过滤信息
think are brilliant at all of this stuff.
你要关注的是那些边缘用户
That retention curve I showed earlier,
那些一天 一个月 甚至一年
there's a link to this guy Danny Ferrante
都收不到一个消息的人
whose incredible talking about retention curves.
我们产品的体验--
The magic moment, there are two videos linked.
顺便说一下 创建极好的产品
One is Chimoff talking about growth,
要以核心用户为准
who was the guy who set up the growth team at Facebook.
创建极好的产品
And one is my friend Naomi and
要根据活跃用户的需求进行优化
I talking at F8 four years ago about how we
但是 涉及到增长
were thinking about growth back then.
就不用担心
And in both of those mem,
那些一直用你们产品的客户了
both of those videos we talk about the magic moment.
我ppt上有个链接
So, what do you guys think the magic moment is for
是Danny Ferrante的视频
when you're signing up to Facebook?
他讲了我们在增长上
You hit that big green button,
需要考虑的增长核算框架
what is the moment when users are like ha?
我们考虑 新用户 失而复得的用户
Mark even talked about it at the start up
也就是那些30天没登陆 之后又登陆的用户
school a few years back.
还有冒泡党
>> See your friends.
我见过的所有产品都面临这种情况
>> See your friends.
当增长到一定的点时
Simple as that.
例如几年后
And usually it is very simple.
失而复得的用户和潜水党
I talked to so many companies, and they try and
占了新用户中大多数
get incredibly complicated about what they're doing.
失而复得的用户和潜水党
But it is as simple as just when you see that
他们有很少的好友
first picture of one of your friends on Facebook.
找不到朋友
You go, oh my God, this is what the site is about.
漠不关心Facebook上的好玩意
And Zucks talked at Y Combinator about
对于这些用户而言
getting people to ten friends in 14 days.
首要任务是为他们找到朋友
That is why we focus on that metric.
为他们找到一定数目的朋友
The number one most important thing in
在增长过程中
a social media site is connecting to your friends.
需要照顾的是边缘用户
Because without that,
增长的实施过程中
you have a completely empty news feed, and
你需要考虑的是 你们公司的北极星是什麼
clearly you're not gonna come back.
你们公司的准则是什麼
You'll never get any notifications,
你们公司的每个人关心的是这个准则
you'll never have any friends telling you
产品朝这个准则方向完善
about things they're missing on the site.
一切努力为此奋斗
So for Facebook the magic moment is that moment when
长此以往 你的公司一定会成功
you see your friend's face, and
顺便提一下
everything we do on growth.
很可能一些东西是交织在一起的
And if you look at the LinkedIn registration flow,
所以 任选一种准则都是可以的
or you look at the Twitter registration flow,
你要选最迫切的那种准则
or you look at what WhatsApp does when you sign up,
你的使命 你的价值观
the number one thing all these services look to
都是与其相通的
do is to show you the people you want to follow,
现实中
connect to, send messages to, as quickly as possible.
日活跃用户和月活跃用户是紧密相关的
Because in this vertical, that's what matters.
谁也离不开谁
When you think about Airbnb or you think about eBay,
分享内容量
it's finding on eBay that unique item,
和用户数是相关的
that PEZ dispenser or broken laser pointer that you
每增加一名用户 他们都会分享新东西
really, really cared about, and wanted to get hold of.
很多东西都是息息相关的
Like when you see that collectible thing that you
选最适合你的那一个
were missing, that is the real magic moment on eBay.
你知道你要为此选择奋斗很久
When you look on Airbnb and
一定要有北极星
you find that first, you find that,
有北极星 并营造激动时刻
that first listing that's like a cool house that you
一旦用户体验到激动时刻
can stay in and
他们就会帮你实现你的指标
when you go through the door, that's a magic moment.
还有 要考虑到边缘用户 不要只考虑自己
And similarly on the other side,
这些是实施增长时
when you're listing your house,
非常重要的几点
the first time you get paid, is an amazing moment.
凡事要一步步地来 最后要讲的一点是策略
When you're listing an item on eBay,
我只是抛砖引玉
the first time you get paid is a magic moment.
我会列举一些策略
You should ask Brian what he thinks,
我最好是借助写字板来讲
cuz they've done these amazing storyboards which I
我在讲的过程中 大家可以提问
think has been shared, of like the journey through
这些策略是如何实施的以及如何做的更好
a user's moment on life on, on Airbnb and how excited.
你需要考虑的重要策略是--
Isn't, he's talking in three lectures time?
顺便提一下
The guy's awesome at talking about the magic moment and
Tom Fishburne是个很棒的小伙子
getting his users to feel love and
这些讥刺画是他画的 我很喜欢
joy and all this stuff.
假如
So think about what the magic moment is for
你已找到利基市场
your product, and
并在该市场有了垄断地位 并埋下“捕鼠器”
get people connected to it as fast as possible.
这是一个藏在床下的无声捕鼠器
Because then you
一旦有老鼠在夜里溜到你床下
can move up where that blue line has asymptoted.
就会被杀死 不会吵醒你
Then you can go from 50% retention to 60% retention
这个市场就是你的利基
to 70% retention easily, if you can connect people with
捕鼠器就是你的杀手锏
the thing that makes them stick on your site.
在硅谷 普遍认同的观点是
The second thing to think about is everyone in
市场营销人员没什麼用
the Valley gets wrong, that we optimize when we
当我是物理系的学生时 我也认为市场营销人员无用
think about growth for ourselves.
我确信 工程系的学生肯定觉得
So my favorite example is notifications.
市场营销人员无用
Again, talk to lots of companies, advise lots of
大家都认为 花香蝶自来
companies, every single company when they
这在硅谷几乎就是信条
talk about notifications, goes, oh I'm getting too
我不认同
many notifications, I think that's what we
我认为 即使有好产品 还是得努力获得用户
need to optimize for in notifications.
在ppt上有个链接 是一篇好文章
Okay, are your power users leaving your site
是对Ben Silvermann的采访
because they're getting too many notifications?
他讲了Pinterest是如何通过市场策略获取增长的
No, then why would you optimize that,
值得好好读 我很偏爱这篇文章
they're probably grownups and they can use filters.
我要讲的第一个策略是 国际化
What you need to focus on is the marginal user.
Facebook国际化得太晚了
The one person who doesn't get a notification in
Sheryl这麼公开说过 我非常认同
a given day, or month, or year.
我们长期发展战略面临的一个最大问题
Our experience of our products, and
我们在进入所有国家要面临的一个最大问题是
by the way like building an awesome product is
山寨
all about thinking about the power user, right?
Studeveldt说过很多网站在其代码中嵌入了Facebook的css
Building an incredible product
不管是否如Studeveldt所言 直接“克隆”
is definitely optimizing for
反正 有大量相似的社交网站
the people who use your product the most.
全世界兴起了很多类似网站
But driving growth,
例如 Vkontakte Mixi Cyworld和Orkut
people who are already using your product all the time,
Facebook只是专注于美国市场而已
are not the ones you have to worry about.
国际化是我们要克服的
So, in this Danny Ferrante video there's also this link
很大的障碍
from the lecture page,
克服障碍对于增长非常重要
there's also talk about our growth accounting framework
Facebook最初是在大学兴起的
that we use to think about for growth.
每横扫一个大学 就相当于克服了一个障碍
And we looked at new users, resurrected users,
当Facebook扩张到高中时
people who weren't on Facebook for 30 days and
那时 我还没进入Facebook
came back, and churned users.
此时是Facebook兴衰存亡的关键时刻
And the resurrected and churn numbers for
人们质疑Facebook能否延续
pretty much every product I've ever seen,
此类社交网站文化是否能延续
dominate the new user account.
从高中扩展到大众时
Once you reach a sensible point of growth,
就在我加入Facebook前夕 又是一个关键时刻
a couple of years, and whatever.
用户突破5000万 然后我们就进入瓶颈期了
And all those users who were churning and
在我们进入瓶颈期时
resurrecting, had low friend counts.
Facebook内部有很多质疑的声音
And didn't find their friends, and
是否社交网站能
so weren't connected to
突破1亿用户
the great stuff that was going on, on Facebook.
现在看来有点可笑 但是当时没有公司能做到
And so the number one thing we needed to focus on
所有社交网站都卡在了5000万和1亿用户之间
was getting them to those ten friends, getting them to
我们担心 这是不可能完成的任务
the whatever number of friends they needed.
就在那时 增长小组成立了
So think about the user on the margin,
Chimoff召集了我们一群人
don't think about where yourself when
他公开说过
you're thinking about growth.
他好多次都想炒我鱿鱼
So, operating for
他或许应该炒了我
growth, what you really need to think about is,
没有Chimoff的话
what is the north star of your company.
我们这些人都不会呆在Facebook
What is the one metric where,
我们是一群怪人 不过增长小组成功了
if everyone in the company is thinking about it and
有两点对于初期增长
driving their product was that metric and
发挥了非常关键的作用
their actions towards moving that metric up, you know in
第一是 我们专注于14天找到10个朋友
the long run your company will be successful.
使用户体验到激动时刻
And by the way,
是Zuckerberg想到的点子
they're probably all correlated to each other so
我们其他人都陷于过度分析中
it's fine to pick almost any metric.
分析是因果还是相关
Whichever one is like the deepest, like, that you feel
Zuckerberg说 如果用户没有好友
the best about, that aligns with like your mission and
他们还会在Facebook上活跃吗?
your values, probably go for that one.
疯了吗? 第二点是国际化
But realistically, daily active users
克服国际化障碍
fairly correlated to monthly active users.
当我们开始国际化时
We could've gone with either one.
有两件事我们做得很好
Amount of content shared, also very correlated to
第一是 尽管我们进入得晚
how many users there are because, guess what,
进入得晚会压力山大
you add a user, they share content.
我们规划好 一步步地来
So, lots of things end up being correlated.
我们由慢而快 步步为营
Pick the one that fits with you and
ppt上有个链接
that you know you're gonna be able to stick with for
是Naomi的视频 从中可以了解到
a long time, but have a north star.
我们抢占市场的整个过程
Have a north star and know the magic moment that when
我们做的就是把需要翻译的字符串提取出来
a user experiences that, they will deliver on that
通过翻译脚本--
metric for you on the north star, and then think about
翻译提取脚本
the marginal user, don't think about yourself.
然后 我们创建了翻译论坛
Those are, I think, the really important points when
我们不仅有
you're operating for growth.
专业翻译人员翻译网站
Everything has to come from the top.
所有的用户也帮助我们进行翻译
So the last area here is tactics.
12个小时 就将法语版Facebook翻译完成了
And my hope was that I could hit a few of these and then
目前 Facebook已有
I've got a list of tactics I wanna go through that
104种语言版本
I'm better talking with a whiteboard and whatever on,
其中70种是由翻译论坛制作的
but you can ask me questions as I'm going through on
我们努力开发产品
those about how they work and what goes better.
使我们得以扩张
But the important tactics that you need to think about
另一件事是 我们对不同语言版本的排序也是对的
this is great guy by the way,
当时的四大语言是
Tom Fishburne, he lives, he lives in the Bay Area and
法语 意大利语 德语 西班牙语
he does these really cynical cartoons that I love.
还有汉语 不过Facebook在中国是被禁的
So let's say you found your,
我们专攻法语 意大利语 德语 西班牙语版本
your niche market that you're gonna have
看这个语言分布图
a monopoly on inside the mousetrap market.
意大利语不在其中了
It's a silenced mousetrap that's sitting under beds so
法语和德语有下滑之势
that if the mice come to your bed overnight,
去年印度的Facebook用户
like they can be killed without waking you up, so
增加了三倍
that's your niche market.
只顾当下是
And your, your mousetrap is better than anybody else for
很容易犯得一个错误
that market.
其他很多社交网站都犯过
What typically happens in Silicon Valley is,
我们建立了一个可扩展的翻译平台
everyone think mar, thinks marketers are useless.
使我们能攻下所有语言
Like I thought marketers were useless when I
我们已为未来做好准备
was a physics student, so I'm
关于我们在语言版本方面的发展方向
sure as engineering students you must thing we're awful,
在印度召开的Internet.org峰会上
awful people who aren't useful to have around.
可见一斑
Like, build it and they will come.
在此峰会上会涉及相关事宜
That is something that is very much the mantra in
关于策略
the Valley and I don't believe it's true.
我想讲一下ppt上这些内容
I believe you actually have to work.
如果大家有什麼问题
There's a good article, again, in the lecture page,
欢迎提问
from interviewing Ben Silvermann where he
这个话题比较自由
talks about how the growth of
这些策略很有意思 第一点是病毒营销
Pinterest was driven by marketing.
我想从两个方面来介绍
It's a really good article to read into.
Adam Penenberg写过一本很有名的书 在这里
I'm biased, of course.
叫做《病毒循环》
So, the first tactic I
书中介绍了许多通过病毒营销
want to talk about is internationalization.
从而获得增长的公司
Facebook internationalized too late.
如果大家对此感兴趣
Sheryl said it broadly in public and
我强烈建议大家读一读这本书
I definitely agree with that.
《奥格威谈广告》也很好
One of the biggest barriers to our long term growth and
在第7章 有个例子 当不知如何宣传自己的万能胶时
one of the biggest things we have to deal with was
用万能胶把车黏在广告牌上
all the countries where there were clones.
那人们肯定会买你的万能胶啦 哈哈~
Famously Studeveldt said had Fakebook.css in their,
他给出了很多
in their HTML.
这样很有创意的小技巧
And there were a ton of sites like that out there,
这个人已经去世20年了
whether it was Studeveldt site as a clear clone,
但我仍旧让每个加入我团队的人
Vkontakte, Mixi, Cyworld, Orkut, there were all these
去读这两本书
different social networks around the world that
继续讲病毒营销
grew up while Facebook was focused on the US.
在我加入Facebook的时候
And so internationalizing was an important barrier we
Sean Park给了我们一个模型
needed to knock down, and knocking down barriers is
从以下三个方面来考虑
often a very important to think about for growth.
产品的病毒式营销
Facebook started off as college only.
首先是有效载荷
So every college that it
病毒炸弹一次能命中多少人?
was launched in was knocking down a barrier.
然后是-- 当时他用的词很精辟 我有点忘了
When Facebook expanded beyond colleges to
第二个是转化率 第三个是频率
high schools I wasn't at the company, but that was a
有效载荷 转化率 频率 就是这个顺序吧
company shaking moment where people questioned whether or
有效载荷是指一次能命中多少人
not Facebook could actually survive,
频率是指每次轰炸能命中他们多少次
the culture of the site could survive.
转化率是能以多大比例转化成--
Then expanding from high schools to everyone,
这样你就能知道产品是如何进行病毒营销的了
that was like, just before I joined and
Hotmail就是
that was a shocking moment and
一个典型的病毒营销的例子
that spurred the growth on to 50 million and
Hotmail刚建立的时候
then we hit a brick wall.
已经有很多电子邮件公司获得了投资
And when we hit that brick wall that was
并在传统广告上面
the point when a lot of existential questions were
投入了很多钱
being asked inside Facebook about whether any social
大家知道Hotmail病毒营销的经过吗?
network could ever get to more than 100 million users.
很好 有新同学
Which sounds stupid now, but
知道的几个同学可能会对下面的内容感到无聊
at the time no one had ever achieved it.
Hotmail刚建立那会儿
Everyone had kind of tapped out between 50 and
人们不能免费使用电子邮件
100 million users and
必须依靠网络服务器提供者(ISP)
we were worried that it wasn't possible.
Hotmail和一些其他公司
And that was the point at
可以让用户在任何地点使用电子邮件
which the growth team got set up.
可以在图书馆 学校或任何地方的网络上
Chimoff brought a whole bunch of us together.
接入Hotmail
It was he said very publicly that he wanted to fire me on
这对于需要使用电子邮件的人来说
multiple occasions, and he probably should have done.
有巨大吸引力
But, without Chimoff I
很多公司花了大价钱
think none of us would have stayed at the company.
在电视上 广告牌上
We were a really weird bunch of people, but
报纸上
it worked out.
Yahoo网站等媒介上
And, the two things we did, I think, that really,
打了无数广告
really drove growth initially, was number one,
但Hotmail没有那麼多资金
we focused on that ten friends in 14 days and
因此他们不得不摸索新的广告方式
getting users to the magic moment.
他们的方法是
And that was something Zuck drove,
在每封邮件的下面加一个小的链接
cuz we were all stuck in analysis paralysis,
“发送自Hotmail 点此获取免费邮箱”
saying is it causation, is it correlation.
有趣的是 这样做的有效载荷是很低的
Zuck was like, you really think if no one
因此你一次只能发给一个人
gets a friend that they'll be active on Facebook?
不会有很大的有效载荷
Are you crazy?
或许你可以发送大量的垃圾邮件
The second thing was internationalization.
但估计很多人不会去点
It was knocking down another barrier.
频率很高
And when we launched it, I think there were
因为你可能每天给同一个人发很多信
two things that we did really well.
也就是说
Number one was, even though we were late, and
你可以不断给他们发送相同的链接
we were stressed about being late,
从而使他们加深印象
we took the time to build it in a scalable way.
转化率应该也很高
We moved slow to move fast.
因为人们不喜欢受制于ISP
And you can actually read,
因此Hotmail的病毒效应十分强大
hear the full story from Naomi in one of
因为它的频率和转化率非常高
the videos linked from the lecture page.
另一个例子是Paypal
But what we did was we wrapped all the strings in
Paypal很有趣 它有两种用户
the site in FPT which our translation script, and
买家和卖家
then, or translation extraction script, and then,
关于Paypal另一件有趣的事情是
we created the community translation platform.
它是通过eBay进行病毒式增长的
So that we didn't just have
病毒营销的手段各种各样
professional translators translating a site we
Paypal所用的方法 病毒性就不怎麼明显
could have all of our users translating a site.
如果买家对一个卖家说
And we got French translated in 12 hours, but
我现在要用Paypal给你付钱
we managed to get to this day we are now at
转化率一定是非常高的
104 languages translated by Facebook for Facebook.
但频率和有效载荷就比较低了 但Paypal做了这麼一件事
80 plus 70 of those are translated by the community.
当你邀请朋友注册时
And we took the time to
可以从Paypal那里得到金钱奖励
build something that would enable us to scale.
他们就是这样从买家的角度传播病毒
The other thing is we
他们不必从卖家这里入手
prioritized the right languages.
因为如果买家对卖家说 我要用Paypal给你付钱
So back then the right languages,
卖家肯定没什麼意见
the big four languages were French, Italian, German and
病毒都是从买家这边传播的
Spanish, figs and Chinese, but
因为Paypal说了 邀请别人注册 就给10块钱
we were blocked in China.
为什麼不邀请呢?
>> So we focused on French, Italian, German,
因此病毒得以形成
and Spanish.
病毒得以传播是因为
Now look at that list,
买家和买家两方面的转化率都非常高
that's today's distribution of languages.
而不是因为有效载荷和频率高 明白了吗?
Italian isn't on the list anymore.
因此这是判断一个产品是否具有病毒效应的
French and German are about to fall off.
很好的方法
In the last year we quadrupled the number of
Facebook不是通过电子邮件转发等方式传播病毒
people on Facebook in Hindi, quadrupled.
Facebook仅仅依靠口碑传播
And so building for
因为对于Paypal和Hotmail来说
where the world is today, is an easy mistake to make and
有趣的事情是
it's what a lot of the other social networks did.
病毒由使用者向未使用者通过发送邮件而传播
We built a scalable translation infrastructure
但在Facebook上 你没有办法去联系
that actually enabled us to attack all of the languages,
不使用它的人
so we can be ready for
大家都认为Facebook通过病毒营销而取得成功
where the future is going to, is gonna be.
但实际上我们不是这麼增长的
And you'll probably be able to see some stuff
Facebook病毒靠口碑传播
from our Internet.org Summit in India about where we
因为这个产品很棒
want to go with language translations later today,
大家都想要告诉朋友一起来玩
cuz I think they're talking about that stuff there.
大家感觉怎麼样?有趣吗? 有问题 很好 请讲
So these are the tactics I wanna go through now, and
上面两个例子中 您说它们的有效载荷
I'll stick with the white board for that stuff.
都比较低
But I'd really encourage you guys as I go through these,
但随着后续的发展
if you've got any questions about them let me know.
或者类似的事情发生以后
I think this should be like,
当有更多的人
a more free form time anyway.
通过Hotmail发送邮件以后
But I think some these
有效载荷会不会也随之不断增加?
tactics are quite interesting.
好 这个问题是说
So Virality.
开始阶段低有效载荷是可以理解的
Yes, I think there are two ways to look at virality.
但后来随着人们发送的邮件越来越多
There's a great book whoops, the book on the right here,
有效载荷会不会增大?
by Adam Penenberg, Viral Loop,
我想 首先你要知道一点
goes through a bunch of case studies of companies that
我们只给一小群人发邮件
have grown through viral marketing.
相比于现有的巨大的病毒传播机制来说
And I strongly encourage you, if
比如说导入某人完整的通讯录
you're interested in viral marketing, to get that book.
全选
I think Ogilvy on Advertising's great as well
并给每个人发一个邮件
because chapter seven he's like if you can't think of
或者给Facebook上每个人的朋友都发送消息
anything else stick a car to a billboard with
相比于上述方式 Hotmail实际的有效载荷是很小的
super glue and people will buy your super glue.
即使你给每个联系人发邮件的频率都很高
And he's got some really,
同时你也得考虑每封信发出去以后
he's got some really good creative tips in there.
真正会看这个链接的有多少人
>> Like the, the guy's been dead 20 years and I think he
但不管怎麼说 你说的是对的 随着用户的增加
still, I, I buy everyone on my team gets both of these
他们会发出更多的邮件
books when they start on my team.
也就会吸引更多的人使用Hotmail
So virality.
产品也就会变得越来越成功
So Sean Park has this model that he taught or he
因此你说的没错 请讲
told us about when he, when, when I joined Facebook.
转化的契机是不是很重要?
Which is to think about virality for
比如有时点击一下就能注册
a product in terms of three things.
省去了很多麻烦
First is payload.
完全同意 这就是-- 啊 抱歉
So how many people can you hit with any
问题是转化契机是不是很重要 比如在Hotmail上
given viral blast?
你点击一下就能注册了
Second, he had cooler words for
但广告打在广告牌上的话
these, I'm not quite as cool.
你就必须记下网址
Second is conversion rate, and third is frequency.
在浏览器中敲上去 找到并点击注册按钮 才能完成注册
Payload frequency and
是的 这些步骤能省则省
conversion rate, whatever, that order.
从线下广告到线上广告
So, how many people can you hit at once is payload.
就可以省去很多麻烦
How many times can you hit them per blast is frequency.
我完全同意这个观点 再回答一个 后面的同学
And what are they gonna convert at?
频率和转化率有关联吗?
And that gives you
问题是频率和转化率有关联吗 当然
a fundamental idea of how viral a product is.
如果你用同样的-- 嗯 我复述过问题了
So Hotmail is like, the canonical example of
频率和转化率有关联吗
brilliant viral marketing, right?
如果你不断给某人发同样的邮件
Back when Hotmail launched,
同样的横幅广告 不厌其烦
there were a bunch of mail companies that had
这是网络营销的基本原则之一
been funded and they were throwing huge amounts of
在任何领域都适用
money at traditional advertising.
如果你给某人不断发重复的Facebook广告
How many people know the Hotmail story, of virality?
你发的次数越多
Awesome, great, new audience, sorry.
他越不可能点
Those two or three people will be bored.
这就是创意枯竭带来的负面效应
But Hotmail back in, back at that time.
在Facebook上 你必须滚动播放不同的广告
People couldn't get free email clients,
横幅广告和信息流也一样
they had to be tied to their ISP.
如果你在信息流上第50次看到一个智力题
And Hotmail and a few other companies launched and
你肯定不会点进去
their clients were available wherever you went.
如果你前49次都没点的话
You could log in via library internet or whatever,
第50次肯定也不会
school internet, and be able to get access to that.
对于电子邮件也是一样
Which was a really big value proposition for
如果你不断
everyone, who wanted to access it.
给别人通过邮件发送邀请链接
Most of the companies, went out there and
或者不断发送
did big TV campaigns and billboard campaigns and
底部带有Hotmail链接的邮件 客户还是不买账
newspaper campaigns and
Paypal则不同 因为为了交易的顺利进行 不得不注册
things like that forced a lot of advertising of Yahoo,
因此 答案是肯定的 转化率会降低
all of those things.
你给某人发送的消息越多
But the Hotmail team didn't have as much funding, and so
转化率越低
they had to scrabble around to figure out how to do it.
这是适用于任何网络营销的基本准则
So, what they did was add that little link at
好了 就讲到这儿
the bottom of every email that said,
看待病毒营销的另一种角度
sent from Hotmail, get your free email here.
我认为很棒 这是Ed提出来的
Now, the interesting thing is that meant
Ed目前在Uber领导着一个增长团队
the payload was low.
以前他是Facebook增长团队的一员
Right, you email one person at a time,
他是斯坦福的工商管理硕士
not necessarily gonna have a huge payload.
他也讲过关于病毒营销的类似课程
Maybe you send around some of those viral spam emails.
他和同学们制定了很多病毒式营销策略
But then I'm not sure I'll click on your link.
对此很多新闻都报道了
The frequency is high, though because you're
非常不错 关于Uber有趣的一点是
emailing the same people over and over and over.
如果你看下他们的增长团队
Which means you're gonna hit them once,
他们对于司机非常关注
twice, three times a day with that same link and
因为这也是个买卖双方的市场 他们需要司机
really move up the impressions.
这是他们团队很大的一个关注点
And the conversion rate was also very high because
在他们公司有着世界上最好的
people didn't like being tied to their ISP email.
病毒式营销人员
And so Hotmail ended up being
那麼在病毒营销中 要让用户导入他的联系人
extremely viral because it had high frequency and
问题是
high conversion rates.
在这些联系人中 你能够给多少人发送链接?
Another example is PayPal.
给多少人发? 然后是多少人会点击链接?
PayPal, PayPal is interesting because PayPal
也许这中间也可以分解成几步
has two sites to it.
多少人会打开 多少人会点击 之类的
PayPal has the buyer and the seller site.
多少人点击 多少人注册 这些人中又有多少会再导入自己的联系人
The other thing that's interesting about PayPal is
本质上说 就是需要人们在网站注册
its mechanism for viral growth was eBay.
并导入其联系人
And so you can use all kinds of things for
你想让注册的人给他们所有的联系人都发送邀请链接
virality that may not look necessarily obviously viral.
而不是仅仅给其中一个人发
So PayPal, if you sent money,
然后你希望这其中有一部分点击了邀请链接
if you said to a seller, I am going to send you money.
又有一部分注册了
Like, I can't think of a higher conversion rate.
如果你把每个节点的百分比相乘
Frequency was low, payload was low, but
那麼实际上--
PayPal did this thing, where they gave away money when
哦 这里不是个百分比 这是个数
you got your friends to sign up for PayPal, and
如果你把这些乘起来
so that's how they went viral on the consumer side.
就得到了整个过程的增殖系数
They didn't have to do that for sellers,
那麼假设每个人平均发送
because if I said I'm gonna send you money via this,
100个邀请链接
you will take that.
抱歉 错了
And even on the consumer side they
假设每个人平均邀请了100个人
went viral because someone said sign up for
其中10%的人点击了链接 那麼就剩下10个人了
this thing and you'll get 10 bucks.
然后我们假设有50%的人注册了 还剩下5个人
Why wouldn't you?
接着这5个人中的10%到20%会继续导入其联系人
So, they were able to go viral, but
结果就是0.5到1个人 那麼增殖系数就在0.5到1之间
in both cases it was because their conversion rate was
这就不能称为病毒式传播
incredibly high on the buyer and the seller side.
视频分享应用Viddy现在 或者说以前
No.
对病毒式营销就很在行
Because their payload and frequency was high.
他们的增殖系数大于1
Makes sense?
让增殖系数达到1以上是完全可以做到的
So this is a really good way to look at virality if
所以如果
you wanna say, is this product viral?
你的用户存留不高
Facebook was not viral via email sharing or
病毒式营销就意义不大
anything like that.
看看你的整个邀请流程
Facebook was purely viral by a word of mouth.
需要导入哪些联系人
Because the interesting thing about PayPal and
每个用户给多少人发邀请呢?
Hotmail Is to use them the first person had to
多少人会打开链接呢?
send an email to someone who wasn't on the service.
多少人会在我的网站注册 多少人会再去导入他们的联系人
With Facebook there's no
据此 就可以算出自己的增殖系数
native way to contact people who aren't on the service.
当然 首先要考虑的还是用户存留
Everyone thinks of Facebook as viral marketing success,
而不是病毒营销
and that's actually, not how it grew.
只有当注册的人中很大一部分都能
It was word of mouth virality, because it was an
留在你的产品上的时候 再考虑病毒营销
awesome product you wanted to tell your friends about.
好 我们还要讲点别的
How's everyone doing?
搜索引擎优化 电子邮件 短信和推送通知
Is this interesting?
在做收索引擎优化时 有三件事需要考虑
Great, question, yes.
第一个是关键词搜索 人们总是做不好这件事
>> So when you're talking about this low pay
我之前讲过 我创立了一个鸡尾酒网站
load in both of the examples.
我用了一年时间使得“调制鸡尾酒”这个词的排名提高
In the later rounds as this sort of campaign or
因为在英国搜索“调制鸡尾酒”的人非常少
whatever you want to call it gets going.
一个月差不多也就500人左右 我垄断了这个搜索词 太棒了
Aren't you going to have a much higher pay load as
我的网站一个月有400次访问 非常令人吃惊
more and more people are sending Hotmail] to more and
在英国 人人都会搜索“鸡尾酒配方”
more folks, and that way your pay load grows and
但在最大的市场美国
grows and grows?
大家搜索的则是“饮品配方”
So, the question is in the first round it
因此我对错误的词进行了搜索优化
makes sense that it has a low pay load, but
因此在你做优化之前
in later rounds, aren't you gonna have higher pay
一定要做好调查
loads as people send more and more and more emails.
调查包括人们搜索的何种内容与你的网站相关
I guess in my head, well, first and
以及搜索的人数
foremost, I think you actually,
有多少人也在争取这些关键词的优化排名
only send emails to a small number of people.
对你的价值有多少
So, compared to like the massive viral engines that
供给 需求和价值 就是简单的经济学原理
exist today,
因此在做关键词搜索的时候
where you import someone's entire contact book.
弄清楚你需要对什麼关键词进行搜索优化
And send them all.
有很多好的工具可以帮助你做到这一点
Send them all an email, or
不得不承认 做的最好的是谷歌的关键词规划工具
where you post to everyone's friends on Facebook.
叫做AdWords(关键词竞价广告)
The actual payloads are still very small.
关键词选好以后 接下来最重要的事情就是链接
Even if it's everyone that
网页排名是所有搜索引擎优化的目的
you email on a frequent basis you hit.
谷歌会根据链接的权威性进行排名
I'm also thinking really per email sent out.
不过现在谷歌也在算法中加入了一些其他的东西
How many people are on it?
比如人们是否搜索你的网站
But it's a fair point, like yeah, as more people get on,
或者链接到你的网站的锚文本在网上的分布情况
get on Hotmail they'll send more emails,
也会被考虑进来
as more people use email.
但如果你滥用锚文本 谷歌会检测出来 当成垃圾对待
The product actually, grows more and more successfully.
把白底白字的关键词放在网页下方不明显的位置
So, that's a fair point.
这招已经不管用了
Go for it.
最重要的是让权威性的网站链接你的网页
>> Doesn't, like, point of conversion also matter?
因为这样可以提高你在谷歌的网页排名
So, like, when just click and sign up.
之后你也要把自己网站的各个页面也相互链接
But if you skip the goal ad it's
使各个网页都能追溯到权威网站 在我加入之前
>> Completely agree,
Facebook在07年9月就开始做SEO相关事宜
that's why, oh I'm sorry.
我是07年11月加入Facebook的
Doesn't point to conversion matters as well, so
这个项目开始时
on Hotmail, you click to sign up, but on a billboard
做了SEO的网页
you have to remember that the URL goes to the website,
并没有吸引多少流量
type it in, find the registration button,
我去看了一下发现
click register and sign up.
找到这些页面的唯一方式是
Yes.
点击网页下面 页脚中的“关于”链接
Yes, anything you can do to move friction out of
点击其中一个博客文章
the flow.
点击其中一个作者
And going from an offline ad to an online ad removes huge
通过他们的朋友进而找出所有的朋友
amounts of frictions from the flow.
结果就是 谷歌认为网站把这些页面埋藏的很深
Obviously.
它们应该没什麼价值 我们也不用对它们进行排名
Totally agree with that.
我们做了一点改变
One more at the back.
加了一个目录页
>> Aren't frequency and conversion related?
这样谷歌就能快速找到我们网站的所有页面
>> Aren't frequency and conversion rate related?
通过SEO 我们的流量提高了100倍
Absolutely.
只是做了这样一个很小的内部链接改变
If you hit someone with the same promotion,
会带来翻天覆地的变化
I repeated that.
最后还有些东西来不及讲了
Aren't frequency and conversion rate related?
XML网站地图 以及给你的网站起个好名字
If you hit someone with the same email over and over and
这些内容都在网上 你们可以回去自己看
over again.
我就讲到这了 因为还有些问题要回答
All the same banner ads, this is one of the things
谁还有问题? 请讲
that's fundamental about online marketing.
想继续听一下电子邮件方面的内容
The same rules apply to every channel.
好 我们再讲下电子邮件
If you hit someone with the same Facebook ad over, and
我认为邮件在25岁以下人群中如死水
over, and over, the more times you
年轻人不怎麼用邮箱
hit them with the same ad the less they'll click.
他们用WhatsApp SMS Snapchat和Facebook
That's why we have creative exhaustion you have to
他们不用邮箱
rotate creatives on Facebook.
如果目标人群是年长者 邮件挺好的
Same with banner ads, same with news feed stories.
总体而言 邮件的效果还是不错的
The fiftieth time you see the IQ story in
但是实际上 邮件不适合青少年
your news feed, you are not gonna click on it.
以及大学生
If you haven't clicked on the 49 before,
你们用多少即时通信软件
you're not gonna click on the 50th.
用多少邮件 自己很清楚
The same is absolutely true with these emails.
你们这些大学生可能用邮件还算多的
So, if you send the same email over and
因为你们在硅谷这
over and over to people for an invite.
用邮件进行推送时要考虑一下实际情况
Or if you send the same little link at
邮件 短信以及推送通知异曲同工
the bottom over and over and over to people for Hotmail.
它们都有局限性
Or I mean the PayPal one's
要想最先完成 首先必须完成
different because people just signed up.
你的邮件要发到用户的收件箱
But yes, you will get lower conversion rate.
如果你发大量的垃圾邮件 你的IP就会被拉入黑名单
And the more you hit someone with
如果你使用公共服务器发送垃圾邮件
the same message the less they convert.
哦 不对 你发送的是正常的邮件
Is fundamental across every online marketing channel,
而别人用同样的服务器发送垃圾邮件
every online marketing channel, cool.
你发的邮件会经常进入垃圾邮件箱
Second way, to look at virality,
客户根本不会看你的邮件
which I think is awesome, is by this guy Ed.
你的邮件会被封杀或退回
And Ed runs the growth team at Uber now,
使用邮件 这些事情需要注意
he was at the growth team at Facebook.
如果你收反馈和发消息邮件用的是同一个邮件服务器
And he was a Stanford MBA student, and
会出现400或500系列的错误
did a class similar to this,
你不得不接受
where they talked about virility.
如果有收件人退回了你的邮件
And they all went and built viral products.
再试一两次 如果还是行不通 就罢手吧
And there was a bunch of press about that actually.
因为 一旦你被认定是发骚扰邮件
And these brilliance of these stuff.
邮件公司会把你列为垃圾邮件发送者 你就难以翻身了
The interesting thing about Uber.
一旦你被抓住 列入了Spamhaus中
If you look at there growth team
你就难以翻身了
they're incredibly focused on drivers.
这点对于邮件推送很重要
Because it's a two
你要文明使用邮件
sided market place they need drivers.
使用邮件做正当的事
That's a huge, huge chunk of their focus as a team.
因为你要从长远角度考虑 持续推送消息
Even they've got like probably the best viral guy
上述内容同样适用于推送通知和短信
in the world at the company.
使用短信的话 你可以通过灰色手段
So, with virality,
购买短信包 从事此行当的人将手机和电脑绑定
you get someone to contact import, let's say.
使用电脑发送短信
Then the question is,
这样做一段时间还行 不过最终会弄砸
how many of those people do you get to send imports?
我见过很多公司犯过这样的错误
Then the question is, to how many people?
他们认为通过这样的手段能获取增长
Then, how many click?
如果你发送的邮件 短信或是推送到不了用户手里
And you can put extra steps in this.
一切都是白费功夫
You could put how many open, how many click, whatever.
如果给活跃用户发垃圾通知
How many click, how many sign up.
这跟我前面说的有点不同
And then how many of those import.
如果给活跃用户发垃圾通知
So essentially, you want people who sign up to
告知他们并不关心的东西
your site, to import their contacts.
这样做会逼着他们退出通知
You want to then get them to send an invite to all of
如果没法取消通知的话
those contacts.
他们就会开始屏蔽你
You want to get.
一旦他们退订了你的推送通知
It to all of those contacts, not just one of them.
你就不能再给他们发推送了
Then you want to get a percentage of those to
一旦他们退订
click, and a percentage of those to sign up.
很难让他们再重订
If you multiply out the percents at every point in
使用邮件 短信以及推送通知
this, this is essentially,
首先要考虑的是 要送到用户手上
where well this isn't a percent, this is a number.
其次要考虑 点击率
If you multiply those out,
你要写什麼样吸引人的标题
that's essentially, the point where you
用户才会打开你的邮件
get to the question of what is the k factor.
用户浏览你的邮件时 怎麼样让他们点回到你的网站呢
So, if you have, when someone imports if on
我认为几乎所有的营销邮件都是垃圾邮件
average they send invites to 100 people.
定期通讯太傻了
Sorry doing that wrong, let's say 100
不要发定期通讯
people get an invite per person who imports.
你给所有人发的都是一样的东西
And then of those 10% click.
其中有人刚刚注册了
That gets you to 10.
有人用了3年了
And then, of those, let's say, 50% sign up.
这些人需要一样的消息吗? 必然不是啊
That gets you to 5.
最有效的方法是推送消息
And then, of those,
推送什麼消息呢? 推送给用户什麼呢?
only 10 to 20% actually, subsequently import.
关于这点 我们经常犯错
You're gonna be at a point where you're at 0.5 to 1 as
作为Facebook用户 我不希望每次被点赞
your K factor.
都收到通知 因为我有很多好友
And you're gonna not be viral.
我会收到很多次“赞”
So, a lot of things like Vidi are very good at
但是对于新用户而言
pumping, or were very good at pumping out stories.
第一次被点赞就是激动时刻
They got the cave factor over one, and it's perfectly
想方设法为这些人推送消息
doable to get the cave factor over one, but
增加邮件 短信
if you have something that doesn't have high retention
以及推送通知的点击率
on the back end then it doesn't really matter.
我们只为活跃度低的用户推送
So, you should look at your invite flow and
这些人如果没有消息的话 很可能就不再登录了
say, what is my equivalent import?
这样我们就做到了对症下药
How many people, per import, are invites sent to?
这是很好的体验 想一想
How many of those receive clicks?
在使用邮件 短信和通知进行推送前
How many of those convert to my site?
先想想要推送什麼内容 这是要考虑的第一点
How many of those then import?
要考虑的第二点
To get an idea of your k factor.
举办什麼样的推广活动呢?
But the really,
eBay首次开通跨境交易
important thing is still to think about retention, and
是最好的一次推广活动
not to think about virality.
点击率非常高
And only do this after you have a large
非常棒
number of people retained on your product per person
因为这个活动顺应了
who signs up.
天时地利人和
So, couple more things we were gonna touch on.
要有推广策略
SEO, email, SMS and push notifications.
这是最重要的事
So, in SEO,
专注于消息推送
there are three things you need to think about.
使用邮件 短信和推送通知等途径 不限于此
First one is keyword research.
快下课了
People do this badly all the time.
我最后讲一点
So I launched this cocktail site that I
如果你们有问题 欢迎联系我
talked to you about.
但如果邮件进入垃圾箱 我就没办法了
I spent a year optimizing it to rank for
我们有很好的过滤机制
the word cocktail making.
我最爱的名言是 巴顿将军的一句话
Turns out in the UK no one searches for
被大家说烂了 很疯狂 却很棒
cocktail making.
“今日认真执行的好计划
About 500 people a month.
胜于明日的完美计划”
I dominated that search term.
Chamath灌输给我们的一点是
It was awesome.
Harvey灌输给我们的是
>> I got 400 visitors a month.
Mark灌输给整个Facebook的是:
It was amazing.
行动迅速 不要害怕打破常规
Everyone searches for cocktail recipes In the UK.
如果你能比别人多做一些实验
And in the US, which is the biggest market,
如果你对增长更加渴望
everyone searches for drink recipes.
如果你为增加用户奋战到底
So I optimize for the wrong word.
你夙兴夜寐地增加用户
So you've gotta do
做实验 得数据
your research first about what you're gonna go after.
反反复复地做
So, research consists of what do people search for
终会快速增长
that's related to your sites, how many people
Mark说 我们之所以能成功
search for it, how many other people are ranking for
是因为我们对成功更渴望 我赞同这点
it, and how valuable is it for you.
我们工作非常努力
Supply, demands and value.
我们并非智商超群
Simple economics I guess.
我们没有丰富的经验
So you do your keyword research.
我们只是努力工作 快速执行
You figure out which keywords you
我强烈建议大家也这麼干 选择权在你手里 谢谢
want to rank for.
There are great tools out there to
enable you to do that.
Honestly the best is quite often the Google AdWords,
keyword planner tool.
Really.
Once you've done, that
the next most important thing is links.
So, page rank is how all of SEO is essentially,
is driven and Google is based on authority.
Now there's a lot of other things in Google's
algorithm now like do people search for your website?
There's a lot stuff about the distribution of what
the anchor text is.
That's send to your site.
So, if you abuse it and
spam it they can pop up with spam.
White on a white background five pages below the fold
doesn't work anymore.
But, the single most important thing is to
get valuable links from
high authority websites future ranking Google.
Most important thing.
Then you need to distribute that log inside your site,
by internally linking effectively.
And when I joined Facebook.
We'd launched SEO in September 2007,
which was before I joined.
I joined November 2007.
And we'd launched it, and we were getting no traffic from
the pages we'd launched, public user profiles.
So, when I went in and looked at it.
The only way you could get to any public user
profile was to click on the footer of the page, for
the about link.
Then click on one of the blog articles,
then click on one of the authors, and then spider out
through their friends to get to all their friends.
Turns out that,
Google was like they buried these papers,
they're not very valuable, and
we're not going to rank them.
We made one change.
We added a directory so that Google could quickly get to
every page on the site.
And we 100 xd SEO traffic.
Very, very simple change drove a lot of
upside about distributing the link love internally.
And then the last thing is there's a bunch of
table stakes stuff, HML sitemaps,
making sure you have the right headers, it's all
covered really well online for what you wanna do.
I'm gonna stop now and make sure, cuz we have
a few questions, but, what other questions are there?
Go for it.
>> We're going to email actually,.
>> Let's go into email.
Okay great.
Email is dead for people under 25 in my opinion.
Right? Young people don't
use email.
They use WhatsApp, they use SMS,
they use Snapchat, they use Facebook.
They don't use email.
If you're targeting an older audience, email is,
pretty successful.
Email still works for distribution, but
realistically, email is not that great for
teenagers, especially, and even people at university.
You know, how much you use instant messaging apps and
how little you use email.
And you guys are probably,
on the high end of the scale for email,
because you're in Silicon Valley.
That being said, on email the things to think about.
Email, SMS, and
push notifications all behave the same way.
They all have questions of deliverability.
So to finish first, first you have to finish.
Your email has to get to someones inbox.
So if you send a lot of spam and
you end up with dirty IP's, or you send spam from
shared servers where other people are.
Or if you send email notifications, from shared
servers where other people are sending spam from,
you are gonna end up being put in the spam folder
consistently, and your email will fail completely.
You may end up, being blocked and
have your email bounce.
There's a lot of
stuff around email where you have to look.
When you receive feedback from the servers you
are sending email too.
500 series errors versus 400 series errors,
you have to be respectful of how those are handled.
If someone gives you a hard bounce, retry once or
twice and, then stop trying.
Because if you are someone who abuses people's inboxes,
the email companies spam folder you and
it's very hard to get out.
If you get caught, on a Spamhaus link, or
anything like that, it's very hard to get out.
It's really important with email,
that you are a high-class citizen,
that you do good work with email because you want to
have deliverability for the long run.
That counts for push notifications and SMS2.
With SMS, you can go and buy SMS traffic, via gray routes
with people with their having phones strung up.
Attached to a like computer and pumping out SMS's.
That works for a time but it always get shut down.
And I've seen so
many companies make these mistakes.
Where they think they're gonna grow
by using these kind of tactics.
If you can't get your email, your SMS or
your push delivered.
You will never get any success from these.
Push, you spam your power users, I know
that's slightly different to what I said earlier.
But you actually, spam your power users and
give them notifications that they don't care about and
make it really hard for them to opt out.
So, there's no settings where they can opt out,
and they start blocking you.
You can never push them once,
they've opted out of your push notifications.
And it's very hard actually, to prompt them to
turn them on once they've turned them off.
So, number one thing to think about about email,
SMS, and
push notification is you have to get them delivered.
Beyond that,
it's a question of open rate, click through rate.
So, what is the compelling subject line you
can put there.
So, that people are gonna open your email.
And how can you get them to click when they visit?
Everyone focuses towards doing,
marketing email that are just spam.
In my opinion Newsletters are stupid.
Don't do newsletters, because you'll
send the same message to everyone on your site.
Someone, who signed up
to your site yesterday versus someone,
who's been using your product for three years.
Do they need the same message?
No.
The most effective email you can do is notifications.
So, what are you sending?
What should you be notifying people of?
And this is a great place where we're in
the wrong mindset.
As a Facebook user I don't want Facebook to email me
about every like I receive, because I receive a lot of
likes cuz I've got a bunch of Facebook friends.
But as a new Facebook user,
that first like you receive is a magic moment.
Turning on that notification across all of
of our channels, increased the click through rate
on our email, SMS and push-notifications.
But we only turned it on, for low-engaged users who
weren't coming back to the site so
it wouldn't be spamming them.
So, it was a great experience.
To think about that.
What notifications should we be sending
is the first thing you need to think about on email,
SMS, and push.
And then the second thing you need to
be thinking about is.
How can you create great
triggered marketing campaigns?
So, when someone creates their first,
cross border trade transaction was one of
the best email campaigns, I was ever part of at eBay in
terms of click-through rates.
It was awesome.
Because it was really timely,
really in context the right thing to do for the user.
So I'd say, make sure you have deliverability.
Most important thing.
Focus on notifications and trigger based email,
SMS, and push notifications beyond that.
So, I think we're out of time.
There's one thing I wanted to finish with which is.
And if you guys have any questions, I guess, like,
you can reach me and
if I get spammed, I just won't reply.
We have great spam filters,
no, my only favorite quotes is from General Patton,
and it's so cliche it's crazy but it's awesome.
A good plan, violently executed today is
better than a perfect plan tomorrow and
one of the things the most instilled in us.
And Harvey still instills in us and Mark instills across
the whole of Facebook is this move fast and
don't be afraid to break stuff ethos.
If you can run more experiments than
the next guy, if you can be hungry for growth.
If you fight and die for every extra user.
And you stay up late at night to get those extra
users to run those experiments to
get the data and do it over and over and over again.
You will grow faster.
Marcus said he thinks we won 'cause we wanted it more,
and I really believe that.
We just worked really hard.
It's not like we're crazy smart, or
we've all done these crazy things before.
We just worked really, really hard,
and we executed fast.
And I strongly encourage you to do that.
Growth is optional.
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