SHE'S THE YOUNGEST PERSON EVER TO BE NOMINATED FOR A NOBEL

PEACE PRIZE.

HER BOOK IS CALLED I AM MALALA.

PLEASE WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM MALALA YOUSAFZAI.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] NICE TO SEE YOU.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S AN HONOR FOR ME.

>> Jon: IT'S AN HONOR FOR US.

I KNOW ME.

THIS IS -- BY THE WAY, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE SHOW.

NOTHING FEELS BETTER THAN MAKING YOU LAUGH.

I WILL SAY THAT.

I ENJOYED THAT VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Jon: I AM MALALA.

IT'S HONESTLY HUMBLING TO MEET YOU.

YOU ARE 16.

WHERE DID YOUR LOVE FOR EDUCATION COME FROM?

>> WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THIS IS THE PART OF OUR HUMAN NATURE

THAT WE DON'T LEARN THE IMPORTANCE OF ANYTHING UNTIL

IT'S SNATCHED FROM OUR HANDS.

AND WHEN -- IN PAKISTAN WHEN WE WERE STOPPED FROM GOING TO

SCHOOL AT THAT TIME I REALIZED THAT EDUCATION IS VERY IMPORTANT

AND EDUCATION IS A POWER FOR WOMEN.

AND THAT'S WHY THE TERRORISTS ARE AFRAID OF EDUCATION.

THEY DON'T WANT WOMEN TO GET EDUCATION BECAUSE WOMEN WILL

BECOME MORE POWERFUL.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Jon: EXACTLY RIGHT.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] WHEN DID THE -- WHEN DID THE

TALIBAN COME TO SWAT VALLEY?

BECAUSE BEFORE THEN YOU DESCRIBE IT AS A PARADISE OF SORTS.

>> A TALIBAN CAME IN 2004 BUT AT THAT TIME THEY WERE QUITE GOOD.

THEY DID NOT SHOW THE TERRORISM AND THEY DID NOT BLAST ANY

SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.

THEY STARTED WITH THE REAL TERRORISM IN 2007 THEY

BLASTED MORE THAN 400 SCHOOLS IN SWAT.

THEY SLAUGHTERED PEOPLE AND IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY 2009, THEY

USED TO SLAUGHTER EVEN TWO THREE PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT AND THEY

FLOGGED THEM AND WE HAVE SEEN THE BARBARIC SITUATION OF THE

21ST CENTURY.

AND WE'VE SEEN LIKE THE CRUELTY AND WE'VE SEEN HARSH DAYS IN OUR

LIFE.

AND THOSE ARE REGARDED AS THE DARKEST DAYS OF OUR LIFE.

IT WAS REALLY HARD FOR US AT THAT TIME.

>> Jon: YOU DESCRIBE IN THE BOOK STILL, NO MATTER WHAT, THEY

TOOK THE SIGNS OFF THE SCHOOLS.

THEY WENT UNDERGROUND BUT THEY CONTINUED IN THE FACE OF -- YOU

SPOKE OUT PUBLICLY AGAINST THE TALIBAN.

WHAT GAVE YOU THE COURAGE TO CONTINUE THIS?

>> YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WAS A GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ME

BECAUSE HE SPOKE OUT FOR WOMENS' RIGHTS, FOR GIRLS' EDUCATION.

AT THAT TIME I SAID WHY SHOULD I WAIT FOR SOMEONE ELSE?

WHY SHOULD I BE LOOKING TO THE GOVERNMENT, TO THE ARMY, THAT

THEY WOULD HELP US?

WHY DON'T I RAISE MY VOICE?

WHY DON'T WE SPEAK FOR OUR RIGHTS?

I STARTED WRITING DIARY.

I SPOKE ON EVERY MEDIA CHANNEL I COULD.

I RAISE MY VOICE IN EVERY PLATFORM I COULD.

I SAID I NEED TO TELL THE WORLD WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SWAT AND I

NEED TO TELL THE WORLD THAT SWAT IS SUFFERING FROM TERRORISM AND

WE NEED TO FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM.

>> Jon: WHEN DID YOU REALIZE THAT THE TALIBAN HAD MADE YOU A

TARGET?

>> WHEN IN 2012 I WAS WITH MY FATHER AND SOMEONE CAME AND TOLD

US HAVE YOU SEEN ON GOOGLE IF YOU SEARCH YOUR NAME THAT THE

TALIBAN HAS THREATENED YOU.

I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT.

I SAID IT'S NOT TRUE.

EVEN AFTER WHEN WE SAW IT I WAS NOT WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF THAT

MUCH I WAS WORRIED ABOUT MY FATHER.

WE THOUGHT THAT THE TALIBAN ARE NOT THAT MUCH CRUEL THAT

THEY WOULD KILL A CHILD.

I STARTED THINKING ABOUT THAT AND THINKING THE TALIB

WOULD COME AND HE WOULD KILL ME.

I THOUGHT WHAT WOULD YOU DO MALALA, I THOUGHT TAKE A SHOE

AND HIT HIM.

BUT I THOUGHT IF YOU HIT A TALIB WITH YOUR SHOE THEN

THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOU AND THE TALIB.

YOU MUST NOT TREAT OTHERS WITH CRUELTY AND HARSHLY.

YOU MUST FIGHT OTHERS BUT THROUGH

PEACE, DIALOGUE AND EDUCATION.

THEN I TELL HIM HOW IMPORTANT EDUCATION IS AND I EVEN WANT

EDUCATION FOR YOUR CHILDREN AS WELL AND I WILL TELL HIM THAT'S

I WANT TO TELL YOU NOW DO WHAT YOU WANT.

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] I KNOW YOUR FATHER IS BACK STAGE

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] I KNOW YOUR FATHER IS BACK STAGE

AND HE'S VERY PROUD OF YOU.

BUT WOULD HE BE MAD IF I ADOPTED YOU?

BECAUSE YOU SURE ARE SWELL.

COULD YOU STICK AROUND?

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SWAT VALLEY AND WHAT IT

WAS LIKE GROWING UP THERE AND HOW PEOPLE CAN GET INVOLVED

THROUGH THE MALALA FUND AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS?

DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME?

>> YES, YEAH, SURE.

>> Jon: I AM MALALA IS ON SHELVES NOW.

VISIT TO THE MALALA FUND.

MALALA YOUSAFZAI.

>> WONDERFUL TO LISTEN TO YOU TALK.

WE'RE BACK.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BOOK I AM MALALA.

IT'S ON BOOKSHELVES RIGHT NOW.

YOUR LOVE OF SCHOOL REMINDS ME SO MUCH OF MY CHILDREN.

OKAY.

MAYBE NOT.

[ LAUGHTER ] THE PEOPLE OF SWAT VALLEY WHEN

THE TALIB FIRST CAME, THEY THOUGHT, THEY ARE BRINGING

ORDER.

THEY ARE BRINGING SERVICES.

THEY ESTABLISHED A COURT THAT WAS FASTER THAN PAKISTANI

COURTS.

>> YES.

>> Jon: AND THE PEOPLE RESPONDED.

WHEN DID THAT BEGIN TO TURN?

>> WHEN THE TALIBAN CAME, THEY WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE

AND THEY WERE JUST MISUSING THE NAME OF ISLAM.

THEY WERE TELLING PEOPLE WE WILL SET UP ANOTHER COURT FOR YOU AND

PROVIDE YOU JUSTICE ON TIME.

USUALLY COURTS IN PAKISTAN, PEOPLE DIE AND THEIR CASE IS NOT

YET RESOLVED IN THE COURT.

BUT THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE COURTS OF PAKISTAN.

SO PEOPLE JUST SAID IF THE TALIBAN ARE DOING IT, WHY

DON'T WE SUPPORT THEM.

THEN THEY WERE THAT MUCH CRUELER WHEN THEY STARTED SLAUGHTERING

PEOPLE. THEY EVEN BLASTED A GENERATOR OF ELECTRICITY.

AND IT WAS THE MOVE RAMADAN IN WHICH WE DON'T EAT ON THE DAY.

IN WHICH WE DON'T DRINK FOR THE WHOLE DAY.

THEY BLASTED ELECTRICITY GENERATORS

PROVIDING ELECTRICITY TO THE WHOLE CITY.

WE CANNOT HAVE WATER BECAUSE ELECTRICITY IS RELATED TO WATER

SUPPLY AS WELL.

PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN THE DARK.

PEOPLE COULD NOT BUY ELECTRICITY GENERATORS.

PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN THE LIGHT OF CANDLES AND PEOPLE WERE JUST

DYING OF THIRST AT THE TIME.

MY FATHER IS A GREAT FATHER BECAUSE HE BOUGHT GENERATOR FOR

THE SCHOOL TO CREATE ELECTRICITY AND PROVIDE WATER TO THE STREET

AND THAT COMMUNITY.

BUT STILL MANY PEOPLE WERE SUFFERING FROM THE HARD

SITUATION.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, OUR FREEDOM WAS TAKEN FROM US.

>> Jon: YES.

>> THE WOMEN'S FREEDOM.

WE COULD NOT GO TO MARKET.

WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO SCHOOL.

WE WERE JUST KEPT IMPRISONED.

WE WERE LIMITED TO THE FOUR WALLS OF OUR HOUSE.

WOMENS' RIGHTS WERE DENIED AT THAT TIME AND THAT'S WHY I SPOKE

BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN EQUALITY AND I BELIEVE THERE'S NO

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

I EVEN BELIEVE THAT A WOMAN IS MORE POWERFUL THAN MAN.

>> Jon: WHAT, WHOA WHAT?

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

WHOA!

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] YOU KNOW, MALALA, THIS WAS GOING

SO WELL.

[ LAUGHTER ] YOU WERE DOING SO BEAUTIFULLY.

[ LAUGHTER ] AND THEN SUDDENLY BAM!

[LAUGHTER] IT'S -- THIS IS THE PART THAT

THEY BEGAN TO SAY YOU CANNOT DANCE.

>> YES.

>> Jon: YOU CANNOT -- THE WOMEN CANNOT DO THESE THINGS.

YOU SAY THAT MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THIS IS A WRONG INTERPRETATION

OF ISLAM, OF THE KORAN.

DO YOU -- WHY HAVE THE TALIBAN AND THESE MORE EXTREME GROUPS

BEEN ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL?

IS IT THE FEAR THAT THEY BRING TO THESE TOWNS?

DO THEY -- IS THAT WHY THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD

A HARD TIME THROWING IT OFF?

>> THE FIRST THING IS THAT THEY WERE REALLY CRUEL. THEY HAD

GUNS IN THEIR HANDS.

IF I HAVE A GUN IN MY HAND AND I TELL YOU SOMETHING DO THIS, YOU

HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S FOR YOUR LIFE.

SO THERE WAS FEAR ALL AROUND.

THAT'S WHY PEOPLE COULD NOT SAY ANYTHING.

THEN THE SECOND THING THAT THEY WERE MISUSING THE NAME OF ISLAM.

THEY WERE TELLING PEOPLE THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR ISLAM.

THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR ALLAH AND THE PROPHET PEACE BE UPON

HIM.

THEY WERE USING RELIGION FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL BENEFITS.

THIS IS ALSO THE REASON.

BUT THEN LATER ON PEOPLE TRY TO REALIZE THIS AND THE GIRLS

ARE VERY BRAVE.

GIRLS IN OUR SCHOOL.

AT THAT TIME WE WERE JUST 11 OR 12 YEARS OLD BUT WE SPOKE OF OUR

RIGHTS TO EVERY MEDIA CHANNEL AND NEWSPAPER WE COULD.

WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME THAT OUR SMALL INTERVIEW WOULD HAVEAT

AN IMPACT BUT IT HAD BECAUSE WE

WERE RAISING UP OUR VOICE AND SPEAKING UP FOR OUR RIGHTS.

AND WE WERE SPEAKING FOR PEACE.

WE WANTED TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE A PARADISE. I

BELIEVE IN TWO PARADISES: ONE I GET AFTER DEATH AND ONE I

GET ON EARTH BECAUSE SWAT IS BEAUTIFUL AND YOU WOULD BE

ASTONISHED WHEN YOU SEE THE LUSH ASTOGREEN HILLS AND THE TALLLUSH

MOUNTAIN AND CRYSTAL CLEAR WATER.

IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

YOU WOULD LOVE SWAT.

>> Jon: MALALA, I'M FROM NEW JERSEY --

[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] -- SO I KNOW A LITTLE SOMETHING

ABOUT PARADISE.

IT DOES -- IT SOUNDS MAGNIFICENT AND IT'S HEARTBREAKING BECAUSE

YOU SEE WHAT THESE CHILDREN WANT AND WHAT THESE PEOPLE WANT IS TO

JUST LIVE IN PEACE WITHOUT HAVING THIS IMPOSED ON THEM.

AND I THINK WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO TO HELP, YOU KNOW, THERE

ARE PASSAGES IN THE BOOK ABOUT THE UNITED STATES.

AND WE COME OUT GREAT.

[ LAUGHTER ] BUT THERE IS -- YOU KNOW, THERE

ARE ATTACKS IN SWAT AND IN THOSE AREAS, DRONES, AND THEY TALK

ABOUT A MAN A C.I.A. AGENT WHO SHOT TWO MEN IN LAHORE.

ABOUT A MAN A C.I.A. AGENT WHO SHOT TWO MEN IN LAHORE.

WE HAVE A COMMON WANT AND DESIRE BUT PERHAPS ARE NOT

ACCOMPLISHING IT IN THE MANNER THAT SHOWS THE PEOPLE HOW WE

FEEL BUT IN SOME WAYS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO WHAT IS

YOUR THOUGHT ON THAT?

>> I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA, THE UNITED STATES, THEY

TRULY SUPPORT PEACE AND THEY SAY THAT WE MUST NOT FIGHT

AGAINST WAR THROUGH WAR.

THEY BELIEVE DIALOGUE IS THE BEST WAY.

WE MUST TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR IT.

IN MY OPINION, THE SOLUTION THAT WOULD WORK TO FIGHT ALL THESE

WARS AND ALL THESE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE ARE FACING IS ONLY

EDUCATION.

BECAUSE YOU CAN STOP WAR FOR A SECOND BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT

WILL START AGAIN OR NOT.

WE'VE SEEN FIRST WORLD WAR, SECOND WORLD WAR AND I THINK

THIRD WORLD WAR IS COMING BUT I BELIEVE WE MUST STOP IT NOW.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE A THIRD WORLD WAR IN THIS WORLD AGAIN.

THE BEST WAY TO FIGHT AGAINST THIS WAR IS EDUCATION.

BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE THE CHILDREN ARE SUFFERING FROM THE

TERRORISM.

THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM CHILD LABOR AND CHILD TRAFFICKING.

THEY ARE SUFFERING FROM THE CULTURE TRADITIONS.

THERE'S NOT ONLY ONE ISSUE WE ARE FACING, TOO.

MANY OTHERS AS WELL.

EDUCATION IS THE BEST WAY.

PEOPLE ARE THINKING DOES GOING TO SCHOOL, LEARNING CHEMISTRY

AND PHYSICS AND MATH.

AND THAT'S IT.

GOING TO SCHOOL IS NOT ONLY LEARNING ABOUT DIFFERENT

SUBJECTS IT TEACHES YOU COMMUNICATION, IT TEACHES YOU