Name: 天堂 | 第二季官方Podcast 第5集 | Hulu (Paradise | Season 2, Official Podcast Episode 5 | Hulu)
Uploaded: 2026-03-09T17:25:01.000Z
Duration: 43 min

Welcome to this week's episode of Hulu's official Paradise podcast.

歡迎來到 Hulu 官方 Paradise 節目的本週集數。

As you know, I'm your host, Rhyme Michelle Bathe, and

大家都知道，我是你們的主持人 Rhyme Michelle Bathe，

we're talking episode five of season two, which is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney.

我們要聊的是第二季的第五集，現在已經在 Hulu 和 Hulu on Disney 上串流了。

So we are talking to none other than my favorite sister wife of them all.

所以我們要訪問的，就是我最喜歡的姊妹妻。

Back with us on the podcast with one more time, Anuka Akuma, who you all know as the.

再次回到我們的節目，還有一次，Anuka Akuma，你們都知道她是。

I guess the survivor of all survivors, Terry Rogers.

我想應該是所有生還者中的生還者，Terry Rogers。

And there's really nobody better to talk to than you to take us inside of, because you literally, literally take us inside of all of it and the refuge that you guys build and, you know, the place that becomes, fortunately, in many ways, unfortunately, in other ways, your home.

而且沒有人比你更適合帶我們深入瞭解，因為你真的、真的把我們帶進了你們建立的避難所，以及，你知道的，那個地方，幸運的是，在很多方面，不幸的是，在其他方面，變成了你們的家。

You know, it becomes your home, and these people become your family.

你知道的，它變成了你們的家，這些人變成了你們的家人。

So tell us, what A, were you studying for?

所以告訴我們，A，你當時在學習什麼？

She is a mycologist, which I had to look up.

她是個真菌學家，這個我還得查一下。

I'm Dr. Terry Rogers Collins, a mycologist.

我是 Dr. Terry Rogers Collins，一位真菌學家。

So she actually became very helpful, as we see in episode five.

所以她在第五集中變得非常有幫助。

You don't think there's going to be any use for it, but she.

你覺得它沒什麼用處，但她卻。

She, like, converts mold into fuel and she made penicillin.

她會把黴菌轉化為燃料，還製造了盤尼西林。

Did you know that Terry was going to be so helpful?

When you were reading this, were you like, I think Terry's going to be helpful in terms of apocalyptic skills?

當你讀到這裡時，你會想，我認為 Terry 在末日技能方面會很有幫助嗎？

I mean, it's just reading the scripts, it's like, I imagine what it's like watching the show because you have no idea where this is going.

我是說，光是讀劇本，就像，我會想像看節目時是什麼感覺，因為你完全不知道劇情會走向哪裡。

I had no idea how it was going to roll out for her.

我完全不知道這對她來說會怎麼發展。

然後，嗯，所以，沒有，我一點頭緒都沒有。

我看過《絕地救援》，所以我有點。

I had a feeling that a big science brain was going to, as they say in the Martian, science the shit out of everything.

我感覺一個很聰明的科學腦袋，就像《絕地救援》裡說的，會把所有事情都科學化。

Which you did, because when you had your little post office that you were like, who needs fuel?

你有做到啊，因為妳之前開郵局的時候，妳就想說，誰需要燃料？

All I need is some dirt and some mushrooms, girl, and I'm good.

我只需要一些泥土和一些蘑菇，親愛的，我就搞定了。

And can I also just say, it was so cool to see a black woman not only be needed and coveted for her brain, but

我還可以說一下，看到一位黑人女性不只因為她的腦袋被需要、被渴望，

I mean, it's not the best way Somebody fell in love with you, but.

我的意思是，這不是最好的方式，有人愛上妳，但是。

To have her be the center of things and not in the way that it's just about the work of it, and

要讓她成為焦點，而且不是那種只是關於工作的，

someone else gets to be the one that is loved and beloved and fought for, you know?

有人可以被愛、被寵愛、被爭取，你知道嗎？

And she really became the center of the group.

She held them all down because she had a mother energy, which we see often black women taking those kinds of roles in the show.

她撐起了所有人，因為她有母親般的能量，我們在節目中經常看到黑人女性扮演那樣的角色。

But what was different about this was exactly what you said.

但這次的不同之處，正是你說的。

She was there to get some shit done, you know, and became integral and essential to the group.

她在那裡是為了把事情辦好，你知道的，並且成為團體中不可或缺、至關重要的一份子。

帶我們回到第一季的那個時刻。

The mommy loves them, whether I'm there or not.

When he's sitting in that airplane and he's crying, we're a mess.

當他坐在飛機上哭的時候，我們就亂了套。

And then you take us back, back to that moment, and we get to see you do it.

然後你帶我們回到那個時刻，我們就能看到你這麼做。

多麼不可思議、令人驚豔的作品。

And then the moment where you turn around and you see Bean.

然後你轉過身看到 Bean 的那一刻。

Well, this is what I love about these Dan Fulgelman shows, is that we get to do these and we get to see how something started and how it connects in the future and how it's basically all.

我喜歡 Dan Fulgelman 的節目就是這樣，我們可以這樣做，可以看到事情的開端，以及它如何與未來連結，以及基本上就是一切。

What I think happened when she sees Bean.

我覺得當她看到 Bean 時，發生了什麼事。

If we look at episode two, when Terry loses sight and Xavier is there, she clings onto him.

如果我們看第二集，Terry 失去視力時，Xavier 在那裡，她緊緊抓住他。

She's a very strong, very capable woman, but in a moment like that, she needs a lifeline, and

她是一個非常堅強、非常有能力的女人，但在那樣的時刻，她需要一個救命索，

And I think in this moment in 205, it's seeing that child.

我認為在 205 集的這個時刻，是看到了那個孩子。

Her whole world is ending, but she sees something she can do.

她的全世界都快崩塌了，但她看到了自己能做的事。

She sees something she can cling to, and she finds him.

她看到可以緊抓的對象，然後找到了他。

And Benjamin Mackie, the actor, played me.

Sometimes a lot of kid actors are, you know, like, they're just very naturally themselves.

有時候很多童星，你知道嗎，他們就是很自然地做自己。

And there's not really much of a difference between.

他以前也有過一些時刻，而且他當時有。

And he's so strong, and so locking in with him was not hard.

而且他很強，跟他配合一點也不難。

But I think that that's what Terry's doing.

但我認為這就是 Terry 正在做的。

She's trying to keep herself afloat using her, you know, maternal skills, I guess.

她試圖運用她的母性技能，我想，來讓自己撐下去。

You just see the Two of them just kind of need each other at the same moment.

你可以看到他們兩個人在同一時刻，就是有點需要彼此。

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