Name: 天堂 | 官方Podcast 第一季回顧 | Hulu (Paradise | Official Podcast Season 1 Recap | Hulu)
Uploaded: 2026-02-16T17:34:30.000Z
Duration: 32 min 28 s

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Hulu's official Paradise Companion podcast.

各位觀眾大家好，歡迎來到 Hulu 的官方 Paradise Companion 播客。

我是你們的主持人 Ryan Michelle Bethe。

I am a podcast host, I am an actor, and I am a season two.

我是播客主持人，我是演員，也是第二季的。

I'm literally, literally, literally, like, literally, literally married into this crazy.

我真的、真的、真的，就像，真的，真的嫁入了這個瘋狂。

Because I am married to Sterling Kelby Brown, which I'm very proud to be your wife.

因為我嫁給了 Sterling Kelby Brown，我很驕傲能成為你的妻子。

All right, we are going to take a look back at season one's wild ride because there's a lot that goes that happened in season one that maybe you thought there was a button on or a bow on, but

好了，我們要一起回顧第一季的瘋狂旅程，因為第一季發生了很多事，你可能以為已經有個結局或圓滿落幕了，但

So this episode, we're going to be picking all of that apart by diving into season one of paradise, which is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus.

所以這一集，我們要深入探討 Paradise 的第一季，現在可以在 Hulu 和 Hulu on Disney plus 上觀看，來好好解析所有這些內容。

And who better to tee everything up for us than Dan the man, our showrunner, Dan Fogelman.

還有誰比我們的節目統籌 Dan Fogelman 更適合為我們介紹這一切呢？

Okay, so who wants to jump into the look back, everything that happened.

好，那誰想開始回顧一下，所有發生過的事情呢？

Who wants to start us off with, like, season one?

誰想先來回顧一下第一季的內容呢？

So we kind of, like want to get everybody up to speed and get us all here on the same page.

所以我們想讓大家趕快跟上進度，讓大家都在同一個頻道上。

So the first question I have is, like, I am very, like, worried about an apocalypse.

所以我的第一個問題是，我非常、非常擔心世界末日。

Did this come to be because you are as worried about an apocalypse as me and your inability to survive said apocalypse?

這是因為你跟我一樣擔心世界末日，而且你無法在世界末日中生存嗎？

Of all my many neuroses and concerns, apocalypse is not really one of them.

在我這麼多神經質和擔憂中，世界末日其實不是其中之一。

所以這不是我真正開始的地方。

Like, I'm one of those people who thinks they could win Survivor.

像是，我就是那種覺得自己能在《Survivor》裡贏的人。

I wouldn't do it because I wouldn't want to be, like, taking my clothes off in front of America and whatnot.

我不會那樣做，因為我不想讓全美國看到我脫衣服什麼的。

But, like, I feel very confident I'd win Survivor.

但，我很有信心我能在《Survivor》裡贏。

I feel I beat Sterling in basketball and I'd win Survivor.

我覺得我能在籃球上贏過 Sterling，而且我能在《Survivor》裡贏。

He said that just because I hurt my leg, you can beat me now.

他說，因為我腿受傷了，你現在就可以打敗我了。

所以你覺得你贏得了《Survivor》？

You think you could survive in Apocalypse?

你覺得你能在《Apocalypse》裡活下來？

I think for me, you know, I had this idea for the show like 10 years ago, really predating this is us.

我想，你知道，我大概十年前就有這個節目點子了，其實比《This Is Us》還要早。

I've told this story before, but I had a meeting with, like, a very successful man of business.

我以前說過這個故事了，但我開了一個會，對象是一位非常成功的企業家。

I started wondering to myself as he was talking.

他講話的時候，我開始在心裡想。

Like, I was like, how many people does this person have serving him?

我心想，他到底有多少人在服侍他啊？

不一定是好的、壞的，或其他什麼。

And I was driving home from that meeting, it might have been, like, 15 years ago, and

那時候我正開車回家，大概是 15 年前吧，然後

a crane dropped something really big, and it made a loud boom.

一個吊車掉下一個很大的東西，發出巨大的聲響。

And it was one of those moments where you're like, whoa, is something really happening right now?

那就是那種你會想「哇，現在真的發生什麼事了嗎？」的時刻之一。

And I was like, I wonder what happens to this guy in that moment?

然後我就想，在那一刻，這個人會發生什麼事？

Like, with all the people that he has under his employ and all the resources he has, like, at the end of the day, don't all those people go running for their own people?

就像，他底下有那麼多員工，還有那麼多資源，說到底，那些人不會都去保護自己人嗎？

And I started thinking about a Secret Service agent and a president, like, the man of utmost power in a position of utmost power, and

然後我就開始想到一位特勤幹員和一位總統，就像，最有權力的人處於最有權力的位置，而

the guy whose job is literally to take a bullet for that guy, and

那個工作就是字面上的意思，要為那個人擋子彈的人，還有

what happens when the shit really hits the fan?

當事情真的變得一團糟的時候，會發生什麼事？

And that was, like, the kernel of the idea I started having all the way back then.

那就是，我當時開始萌生的想法的雛形。

So it was less about, like, my fears of an apocalypse, and

所以，這比較不是關於，我對末日的恐懼，而是

it was more about how far would you go to protect your own?

更關於你會為了保護自己人走多遠？

What happens to people in power when those people they have working with them and for them might turn to their own?

當那些為他們工作和效力的人可能會轉向保護自己時，身居高位的人會發生什麼事？

And how would those people start planning for something if they had the resources and the time to plan for it long in advance?

而且，如果他們有資源和時間提前很久規劃，他們會如何開始規劃？

Have you guys heard, like, since the show came out in season one, all these stories about underground bunkers?

欸，你們有聽說過嗎？像是從第一季節目開播以來，就一直有很多關於地下碉堡的故事？

Like, things that, like, I didn't know was a thing before, and

像是，我以前根本不知道有這種東西，然後

then you, like, slowly but surely, it's like, oh, this.

接著你就會，慢慢地、一點一點地，喔，原來是這樣。

Did you stay on the kernel of the idea and then this just happens to be in the zeitgeist?

你是緊抓著想法的核心，然後這個想法就剛好在時代的潮流裡了？

And one day, I just sat down and wrote it.

然後有一天，我就坐下來寫了。

And really, I think, yeah, I just wrote it.

And I think I was, as I've talked about, I was unwittingly writing it, picturing Sterling in my mind's eye.

我想，就像我說過的，我無意間寫了它，腦海裡浮現著 Sterling 的身影。

We had never spoken about it, and I gave it to a few people, and

我們從來沒有談過這件事，我把它給了幾個人，

And I sat down with a couple of my writers who were on the show to this day, John Hoberg and Scott Weinger, and

然後我跟當時還在節目上的兩位編劇，John Hoberg 和 Scott Weinger 一起坐下來，

I said, let's bat this around where this Goes because I don't want to.

我說，我們來討論一下這個故事要怎麼發展，因為我不想。

If I give it to people, people are going to want to make it.

如果我把它給了別人，別人就會想把它做出來。

But I don't think I know what it's about quite yet.

但我覺得我還不太確定它到底是什麼。

And I think at that point we did a lot of research.

我覺得那時候我們做了很多研究。

We started doing a lot of sociological studies on the billionaire class and an environmental, climate change and environmental catastrophe.

我們開始做了很多關於億萬富翁階級、氣候變遷和環境災難的社會學研究。

And that's when a lot of what the show became started forming.

那時候節目的大部分內容才開始成形。

And that's when I developed my kind of master plan for what the show would be.

那時候我發展了我對節目內容的總體規劃。

It was after I'd written the pilot and then I went back and adjusted the pilot and then I said that Sterling was probably the third person, fourth person to get it.

是在我寫完試播集之後，然後我回去調整了試播集，然後我說 Sterling 可能是第三、第四個拿到劇本的人。

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