Name: 《SINNERS》演員迪爾羅伊·林多與凱莉·華盛頓對談！ (SINNERS Actor Delroy Lindo In Conversation with Kerry Washington)
Uploaded: 2026-02-10T17:40:44.000Z
Duration: 42 min 7 s

I have the profound honor today to spend a little bit of time with one of my greatest heroes, a man that I adore and love, but

今天我非常榮幸能花一點時間，跟一位我非常敬佩的英雄、我非常愛戴的男人一起。

also a man who has really been an incredible inspiration for me and so many others throughout my career.

他對我以及我職涯中許多人來說，真的是一個很棒的啟發。

So we're here today to talk with Delroy Lindo about his performance in Sinners.

所以今天我們要來跟狄爾羅伊·林多聊聊他在 Sinners 中的表現。

I'm just gonna jump in and start to ask you questions, but

as you do, you know, you're always in charge.

If I miss something or if you want to add something or interrupt or what, you know, it's.

如果我漏掉什麼，或是你想補充什麼，或是打斷，你知道的，就。

If this is your show, I'm here to just really give you space and give you flowers and give you praise and learn a little something about your process.

如果這是你的節目，我就是來給你空間、給你肯定、給你讚美，然後學點關於你過程的東西。

I mean, I'm always blown away by the work that you do because I never feel like I'm watching something I've ever seen before.

我是說，我總是對你做的作品感到驚豔，因為我從來不覺得我看到的東西是以前看過的。

I feel like every soul that you embody, you build them from the ground up and you start from scratch.

我覺得你演繹的每一個靈魂，都是從零開始、一點一滴建立起來的。

And I'm curious with him, for Sinners, where did you start?

我很想知道，對於 Sinners 這部戲，你是從哪裡開始的？

對你來說，最初的種子在哪裡？

I just want to reciprocate that it's wonderful to reconnect with you.

我只想說很高興能再次和你聯繫。

And I know we're not here to talk about Unprisoned.

我知道我們今天不是來聊 Unprisoned 的。

However, I do want to just acknowledge that working experience that we had together, which informs, I believe, how we communicate, how we will communicate going forward forever and whenever, because that in and of itself was such a significant experience, not only for us, the people who were making the work, but

不過，我確實想稍微提一下我們一起工作的經驗，我相信這影響了我們溝通的方式，以及我們未來將如何溝通，因為這本身就是一段很重要的經歷，不只對我們這些創作者，

And it actually leads indirectly to your question, because in terms of how I worked on Delta Slim, creating Delta Slim, when I was in the.

這其實也間接引導到你的問題，因為就我如何處理 Delta Slim、創造 Delta Slim 來說，當我在。

When we were in the final throes of working on Unprisoned is when my conversations with Ryan started to ramp up.

當我們在 Unprisoned 的最後階段時，我和雷恩的對話就開始變多了。

You know, I left immediately after we wrapped Unprisoned, went to New Orleans to start working on Centers, and

妳知道，Unprisoned 殺青後我馬上就離開，去了紐奧良開始做 Centers，然後

Ryan said something to me about Unprisoned.

雷恩對我說了一些關於 Unprisoned 的話。

He basically acknowledged how important he felt that work was.

他基本上承認了他覺得那份工作有多重要。

The standpoint of folks he knew who had been locked up, friends of his who had been locked up, and

從他認識的、曾經被關過的朋友們的立場，

how important he felt to illuminating that whole experience was for him as an audience.

以及他覺得要闡明那整個經歷對他這個觀眾來說有多重要。

Now, that was significant to me because in terms of the work that we started on Sinners.

這對我來說意義重大，因為就我們開始進行 Sinners 的工作而言。

Because that gave me another clue, an additional clue into who Ryan Coogler is, thus how he moves through the world and what he values, his values.

因為這讓我對雷恩·庫格勒是誰、他如何看待世界以及他重視什麼、他的價值觀，又多了一個線索。

So having read the script, having of Sinners, having identified some areas and sinners, I wanted to be clear with Ryan that I was understanding what I thought he was writing.

所以在讀完 Sinners 的劇本，並且辨識出一些地方後，我想讓雷恩清楚，我理解他寫的東西。

They were informal areas that we started investigating with.

我們一開始是在這些非正式的場合進行探討。

And by that, do you mean it was this genre.

你的意思是，它是這個類型嗎？

It's written as a genre piece, like a horror thriller, period, a piece.

它被寫成一個類型的作品，就像恐怖驚悚片，就這樣，一個作品。

I don't want to say more important, but very significant.

我不想說更重要，但非常意義深遠。

forgive me, those of you in the audience who have heard me say this numerous times, at this point, I was aware that this material functioned on numerous levels.

請原諒我，在座聽過我說這話無數次的各位，到這個時候，我意識到這段素材在很多層面上都有作用。

And that really, really critically important for me in terms of my understanding of the material.

這對我理解這段素材來說，真的、真的非常重要。

I felt that Ryan was using this particular genre to tell a much larger story.

我覺得雷恩是利用這個特定的類型來訴說一個更大的故事。

我們談話時，他向我證實了這一點。

So having established with Ryan these preliminary.

所以，在和雷恩建立起這些初步的。

We then set about building, as you say, building.

然後我們就開始建立，就像你說的，建立。

He sent me two books, Blues People and Deep Blue Blues People by Amiri Baraka, who, when he wrote the book, was known as Leroy Jones.

他寄了兩本書給我，《Blues People》和 Amiri Baraka 的《Deep Blue Blues People》，作者寫書時，當時叫做 Leroy Jones。

And then he sent me a book called Deep Blues by Robert Palmer.

然後他又寄了一本 Robert Palmer 寫的《Deep Blues》給我。

I read both of those books that gave me Carrie.

我讀了這兩本書，它們給了我 Carrie。

Not only an introduction to certain characters who were highlighted in those books, but

不僅僅是介紹書中強調的某些人物，

And I'm hesitant to say that because I'm not sure I can articulate it any more specifically than that.

我有點猶豫要不要說出來，因為我不確定我能不能更具體地表達。

Well, can I tell you what I saw in your performance that I'm wondering if it was influenced from the books?

嗯，我可以告訴你我在你表演中看到什麼，讓我想知道這是否受到書的影響嗎？

One is the way that music and rhythm impact your performance.

一個是音樂和節奏如何影響你的表演。

And you learned to play instruments in the role.

而且你在角色裡學會了彈奏樂器。

But also there's a musicality to the way he speaks and even the way he walks.

但他講話的方式，甚至走路的方式，都有一種音樂性。

I'm so grateful that you brought up those books.

我真的很感謝你提起那兩本書。

Music seems to run through this character.

這角色好像渾身都是音樂細胞。

Will you talk to me about, like, learning to play instruments and also the rhythm of how he speaks.

你可以跟我聊聊，像是學習樂器，還有他講話的節奏嗎？

你說得對，這裡面充滿了音樂性。

And again, I've said this before in various of the events that I've attended in Supportive Centers.

再次強調，我在參加支持中心活動時，已經說過好幾次了。

And from the standpoint of exposing myself to literature, to music, to documentaries, all of which I engaged.

從文學、音樂、紀錄片這些我都有接觸的領域來看。

Then I went to listening to various artists who are steeped in the Delta blues.

然後我開始聽各種深受 Delta blues 影響的藝術家。

Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Son House, Ike Turner.

Muddy Waters、Howlin Wolf、Son House、Ike Turner。

So many of these cats who have that musical genre as their base, their point of departure.

好多這些音樂家，他們都以那種音樂類型為基礎，為他們的出發點。

So I was listening to a lot of music and watching documentaries of people in the Delta.

所以我就聽了很多音樂，看了很多關於 Delta 地區人們的紀錄片。

現在，我不能跟你說，在任何。

Well, there are a couple of things in terms, from a rhythmic point of view, I can't necessarily say to you.

嗯，從節奏的角度來看，有幾件事情我不能肯定地跟你說。

I specifically identified certain rhythms that I wanted to emulate.

我特別找出了一些我想要模仿的節奏。

What I can say is I want to believe that by osmosis.

我能說的是，我希望透過潛移默化。

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