Name: 王朝的舵手：漢娜羅斯柴爾德女爵談繼承與名人家族的下一章！ (Steering a Dynasty: Dame Hannah Rothschild on Succession & the Famous Family's Next Chapter)
Uploaded: 2025-12-13T18:05:19.000Z
Duration: 24 min 20 s

The name Rothschild walks into the room before you do.

羅斯柴爾德這個名字，在你進門前就已經響徹全場。

It comes with enormous history, quite a lot of gravitas, quite a lot of responsibility.

它承載著巨大的歷史、滿滿的莊重感，以及相當多的責任。

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A member of one of the world's most influential banking dynasties, Dame Hannah Rothschild discusses her family's incredible history.

作為世界上最具影響力的銀行世家之一的成員，黛安·漢娜·羅斯柴爾德將分享她家族令人驚嘆的歷史。

I think for them, a lot of it was actually just trying to make a better life for themselves.

我認為對他們來說，很多時候其實只是在努力為自己爭取更好的生活。

As people change, you have to adjust the legacy and you have to adjust the succession.

隨著時代變遷，你必須調整傳承，也必須調整繼承。

We have a very complex series of businesses.

我們擁有一系列非常複雜的業務。

Listen, you're lucky enough to have this.

聽著，你們很幸運能擁有這一切。

Recorded at Singapore's iconic Raffles Hotel as part of UOB's Private bank event, Dame Hannah Rothschild joined me for a special edition of CNBC meets.

在新加坡標誌性的萊佛士酒店，作為華僑銀行私人銀行活動的一部分，黛安·漢娜·羅斯柴爾德和我一起參與了特別版的 CNBC 會客室。

Dame Hannah, thank you so much for joining me.

黛安·漢娜，非常感謝你來參加。

What a great pleasure it is to be in Singapore for the first time.

很高興這是我第一次來到新加坡。

Well, I'd like to start by talking about your family's incredible legacy.

嗯，我想先從談論你家族令人難以置信的傳承開始。

It goes way back to great, great, great, great.

這可以追溯到很久很久很久很久以前。

I'm not sure how many greats, but a lot of greats.

我不確定有多少個「很久」，但真的很久。

Grandfather Maya Amschel Rothschild, who, according to record, set up financial services business in Frankfurt as early as 1769.

邁爾·安謝爾·羅斯柴爾德，根據記錄，他在 1769 年就在法蘭克福創立了金融服務業務。

So he was born in a place called the Judengasse, which was a Jewish ghetto, basically.

他出生在一個叫做猶太人區 (Judengasse) 的地方，基本上就是猶太區。

And it was the house that he lived in when he eventually had 13 children was only 14ft wide.

他後來生了 13 個小孩的房子，寬度只有 14 英尺。

And he lived there with his very, very overpowering and dominant and an incredibly brilliant wife who was called Guttel.

他和一位非常、非常強勢、有主見、而且才華洋溢的妻子 Guttel 住在那裡。

He was determined to get out of this ghetto.

The street was so narrow that no sunlight could penetrate.

這條街非常狹窄，陽光根本照不進來。

There was no plumbing, there was no sewage, there was nothing.

沒有自來水，沒有汙水處理，什麼都沒有。

So everything you can imagine happened in this street.

所以你可以想像的任何事情都發生在這條街上。

And unsurprisingly, he wanted to get out of there and he started a small coin business, and that did reasonably well.

毫不意外地，他想離開那裡，於是開始做小小的錢幣生意，而且做得還算不錯。

But actually, and this is where it ties into legacy, his great strength was to send his five sons to the capitals of Europe at that time.

但實際上，這也是傳承的につながる部分，他最大的優勢就是把他的五個兒子送到當時歐洲的各大首府。

And what they did is they set up, in effect, the first international banking system.

他們所做的，實際上就是建立了第一個國際銀行體系。

So whereas everyone used to be in separate, different countries or separate cities until then, these five boys communicated with each other sometimes by pidgin, and they wrote to each other in Juden Deutsche, which was a kind of Yiddish German vernacular.

所以，在那之前大家都是分散在不同的國家或城市，而這五個兒子有時候會用皮欽語互相溝通，他們用猶太德語書寫，這是一種意第緒語德語方言。

And this absolute belief in togetherness, you've got to stand together, you've got to work together, you've got to work across borders, you've got to work with rules.

這種絕對的團結信念，你們必須站在一起，必須合作，必須跨越國界合作，必須遵守規則。

And by 1789, when the last one went to 1815, so very, very short period of time, it was said that no government or king would consider going to war without the Rothschilds supporting them, because that was how incredibly influential and powerful they had become.

到了1789年，最後一位兒子在1815年離世，這是一段非常非常短的時間，據說當時沒有任何政府或國王敢在沒有羅斯柴爾德家族支持的情況下發動戰爭，因為他們已經變得如此有影響力和強大。

Hannah, it's extraordinary history, as you say, and the five sons, what, in your mind, what was so significant within the family's history to build this kind of success?

漢娜，正如你所說，這段歷史非同尋常，而這五個兒子，在你心中，他們家族歷史中，有哪些是如此重要，能夠建立起這樣的成功？

A lot of it was actually just trying to make a better life for themselves.

其實很大一部分只是為了讓他們自己過上更好的生活。

You know, they were reviled at the time for being, you know, for their faith, for being Jewish.

你知道，當時他們因為信仰，因為是猶太人而備受詆毀。

他們因為與眾不同而備受詆毀。

They kept up certain ways of living which.

Which other people outside the Judengasse didn't want.

這是猶太人區（Judengasse）外面的人不想要的。

Later, as the family became wealthier and more sophisticated, they wanted other things.

後來，隨著家族變得越來越富有和精緻，他們想要別的東西。

All the accoutrements that came with wealth.

So, for example, they would start buying works of art because they felt that was going to make them look better.

所以，舉例來說，他們會開始購買藝術品，因為他們覺得這樣會讓他們看起來更好。

They understood, actually, that business isn't just done in a boardroom.

他們其實明白，生意不只在會議室裡談。

Business actually is done in a ballroom as well.

Business is who you know, how you interact with people.

生意在於你認識誰，你如何與人互動。

So they then realized, actually they had to become more sophisticated, and they set about making themselves more sophisticated.

所以他們後來意識到，其實他們必須變得更圓滑，然後他們著手讓自己變得更圓滑。

Can you pinpoint what you think were the key factors behind the success and the survival in the financial world?

你能指出你認為在金融界的成功和生存背後的關鍵因素是什麼嗎？

The simple rule that bound the family was togetherness.

束縛這個家族的簡單規則就是團結。

Although they relied, and we still rely, to be very clear about this, on talented individuals, we also believe that there is a kind of code amongst a family of discretion, of thoughtfulness, which I think is a kind of principle.

雖然他們依賴，而且我們仍然依賴，這一點要說清楚，依賴有才華的個人，但我們也相信，一個家族之間存在一種準則，那就是謹慎、體貼，我認為這是一種原則。

And I think that's one of the reasons that it's worked so, for example, in our family bank, Rothschild and Company, which actually, I'm also on the steering board of that first female Rothschild, I might add, to be on that one that's run by very talented individuals, know their stuff.

我認為這也是它奏效的原因之一，例如，在我們的家族銀行 Rothschild and Company，事實上，我還是第一位擔任這個職位的女性 Rothschild，我補充一下，在這個由非常有才華的個人經營的銀行裡，他們都很懂。

But actually, my cousin Alexandra took over from his father, David, who took over from his father, who took over from his father.

但實際上，我的表妹 Alexandra 接替了她的父親 David，而 David 又接替了他的父親，他的父親又接替了他的父親。

And I think we were born to feel it was an incredible gift and an accident to be born with this privilege and where we are.

我認為我們生來就覺得，能出生在這樣的特權和地位，是一種不可思議的恩賜和巧合。

But it is our responsibility to make the most of it.

And I think that humility, if we can hang onto that, will keep us going a bit longer.

我覺得，如果我們能保持這份謙遜，就能走得更遠。

What does it mean to you, Hannah, to be the first woman?

漢娜，對妳來說，成為第一位女性，這有什麼意義呢？

I feel that I worked hard for it, actually.

我覺得我其實是努力爭取來的。

I had to prove my worth both inside the family and outside the family.

我必須在家族內外證明我的價值。

So they trusted me enough to give me these roles.

所以他們足夠信任我，給我這些職位。

But I also feel nervous about messing it up.

Not just because I'm a female or not just because I'm seventh generation, but because I feel a tremendous responsibility towards the institutions that I represent.

不僅僅是因為我是女性，或我是第七代，而是因為我對我所代表的機構，感到巨大的責任。

Your late father, Lord Jacob Rothschild, described the family spending the first part of the 19th century making lots of money and a lot of the second half spending it.

妳已故的父親雅各·羅斯柴爾德勳爵曾說，家族在19世紀上半葉賺了很多錢，下半葉則花了很多錢。

Describe the family's relationship with wealth at that time.

You want to enjoy the fruits of your labour.

They'd spent basically half a century when working unbelievably hard to build it up.

他們花了差不多半個世紀，非常努力地建立起來。

They then got, I think it's fair to say, a little bit seduced by a better life, you know, and I'm, you know, I'm not going to blame anyone for wanting a more comfortable life.

我認為可以公平地說，他們有點被更好的生活誘惑了，你知道的，我不會怪任何人想要更舒適的生活。

They did very well and then they took their foot off the pedal, if you like.

他們做得很好，然後就鬆懈了，如果你願意這麼說的話。

So I think what he really meant by that quote was, you know, don't give up.

所以我認為他對這句話真正的意思是，你知道的，不要放棄。

You've got to stay disciplined, you've got to keep on it.

你必須保持紀律，你必須堅持下去。

And he himself worked every hour of every day right up until he died about 18 months ago, age 88.

他本人也工作到他大約18個月前過世，享壽88歲。

So he very much believed in that discipline.

They built a number of notable properties.

Talk me through the scale of that portfolio at the time.

跟我說說當時那個投資組合的規模。

Well, they built, within a period of about 40 years, 44 very, very significantly large houses.

嗯，他們在大約40年內，建造了44棟非常、非常大的房子。

And if any of you come to England, please visit Waddesdon Manor.

如果你們有人來英國，請務必參觀 Waddesdon Manor。

One of the things in my portfolio, which is an extraordinary house, it was built in the 1880s and it is a.

在我收藏的房產中，有一間非常特別的房子，它建於1880年代，是一座。

It's a Victorian interpretation of a French Renaissance chateau.

這是維多利亞時期對法國文藝復興時期城堡的詮釋。

And then they filled it full of works of art that had belonged to famous families.

然後他們在裡面擺滿了屬於名門望族的藝術品。

So what they tried to do, I think, was to pay homage to other civilizations, other great families and businesses that have succeeded.

所以我想，他們試圖向其他文明、其他成功的偉大家族和企業致敬。

And they put it all together in this amazing house.

他們把這一切都融入了這棟令人驚嘆的房子裡。

So wherever you go in Europe, you will find these houses in different places.

所以，無論你們去到歐洲的哪個地方，都會在不同的地方發現這些房子。

There were three dimensional calling cards.

Hannah, when you were growing up, when did you become aware of the family success?

漢娜，在你成長的過程中，你什麼時候意識到家族的成功？

I think it is fair to say that the name Rothschild walks into the room before you do.

我想可以這麼說，羅斯柴爾德這個名字在你進門前就已經走進來了。

它承載著巨大的歷史、相當的莊重感，以及相當大的責任。

And so I, I was aware at quite a young age about that, you know, that this name was there and it was very much instilled in me that there was a responsibility that went with that.

所以，你知道，我從小就很清楚這一點，這個名字一直都在，而且我被深深地灌輸了隨之而來的責任感。

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