Name: 喬安娜-盧姆利談讓-穆爾 - 與 5x15 (Joanna Lumley on Jean Muir — with 5x15)
Uploaded: 2025-10-19T18:11:40.000Z
Duration: 11 min 59 s

I knew her right until the very end, but I called her Miss Muir because we all did.

我認識她一直到最後，但我叫她穆爾小姐，因為我們都是這麼叫的。

She was sort of terrifying, but she was absolutely brilliant.

她有點令人害怕，但她真的非常出色。

I was working in Debenham and Free Body in the model suit department.

我當時在 Debenham and Free Body 的時裝部門工作。

It was my first job as a model in the 60s.

這是我 60 年代的第一份模特兒工作。

I'd been with Lucy Clayton and I'd been trained to walk about, but

我在 Lucy Clayton 受訓，學會了走路，但是

I was going to be a photographic model, so I didn't want to do the walking.

我本來是要當攝影模特兒的，所以我不想走臺步。

But they said, your first job, Debenham and Free Bodies, Model suit department, which was for women of 40 plus.

但他們說，妳的第一份工作，在 Debenham and Free Body 的時裝部門，是為 40 歲以上的女性設計的。

I was 18, so I used to roll the skirts up high and just slink about like this.

我當時 18 歲，所以我會把裙子捲得很高，然後像這樣扭來扭去。

I didn't have to carry a number, but that's what I did.

我不用拿號碼牌，但我就是這麼做的。

A wonderful French woman came up to me and said her name was Lucien Phillips.

一位很棒的法國女士走過來跟我說，她叫 Lucien Phillips。

Those of you who might remember, she had a shop in Knightsbridge.

你們之中可能有人記得，她在 Knightsbridge 有一家店。

She said, you should not be working here, you should be with Jean Muir.

她說，妳不應該在這裡工作，妳應該去 Jean Muir 那裡。

I went to see Miss Muir, who was at that time not called Jean Muir.

我去見了穆爾小姐，當時她還不叫 Jean Muir。

And Jane 19 to 22 Great Portland street, up four flights of stairs, and

而 Jane 在 Great Portland street 19 到 22 號，要爬四層樓梯，然後

我到了那裡，穆爾小姐就在那裡。

Anybody who here can remember her or have seen a photograph of her, she never really changed during all the time I saw her.

在座有誰記得她或看過她的照片，在我認識她的這段時間裡，她幾乎沒什麼改變。

She had ruler, straight, mousy hair cut immaculately in a sort of sideways fringe like that.

她有著筆直、整齊的鼠灰色髮型，像這樣剪成側邊瀏海。

Very pale face, almost like a Pierrot sometimes with very dark red or brown lipstick.

臉色非常蒼白，有時擦著非常深紅或棕色的口紅，看起來有點像小丑。

She had tiny, almost monkey like, brilliant little slim fingers.

她有著嬌小、像猴子般靈巧纖細的手指。

在倫敦時，她總是穿著寶藍色。

Anyway, she looked at me and she went, mm, mm.

總之，她看著我，然後發出了「嗯、嗯」的聲音。

Those of you who've ever met her knew that she had this sort of vocal tic, but

有誰遇過她，就知道她有點聲音抽動的習慣，但

And she looked at me and she looked at my rather broad shoulders and went, mm, mm.

她看著我，又看了看我那有點寬的肩膀，然後發出了「嗯、嗯」的聲音。

Anyway, I went on losing weight for Miss Miu until she said, you can stop getting thin now.

總之，我繼續為了穆爾小姐減肥，直到她說，妳可以不用再瘦了。

所以我知道我差不多就是那個樣子了。

She had an office at the back where she did her drawings.

她有個在後面的辦公室，在那裡她畫圖。

然後有一個小小的、小小的空間。

I wouldn't like to say a corridor, but it was about as long as that.

我不太想說是走廊，但差不多就是那麼長。

Black curtains on each end and a chair, which was where I lived, with a rail.

兩頭有黑色的窗簾，還有一張椅子，我就是住在那裡，旁邊有掛桿。

And then there was a tiny showroom where people would come from America.

然後有一個小小的展示間，會有人從美國來。

They would come from Harvey Nichols, they would come from Vogue, they would come from anywhere to see the clothes that they wanted to use, take or buy.

他們會從 Harvey Nichols 來，從 Vogue 來，從任何地方來，看看他們想使用、拿走或購買的衣服。

And I would put them on in my little black chamber.

然後我會在我那個小小的黑色房間裡試穿。

And I always had on black, black tights, which were never dark enough, never opaque enough in those days.

我總是穿著黑色的、黑色的褲襪，在那個年代，它們永遠不夠黑，不夠不透明。

So we used to wear two pairs of tights to have.

Miss Mill wanted ink black legs and a little sort of black body stocking.

穆爾小姐想要墨黑的腿和一件小小的黑色連體衣。

Then I'd get into the things and I'd go out and I'd stand there quite close to the people who'd look at the garments and check them and see if they wanted them or not.

然後我會穿上那些衣服，走出去，站在那些會看衣服、檢查衣服、決定要不要的那些人旁邊。

Then I'd take them off and go back into my little room again.

然後我會脫下來，再回到我的小房間。

the pay had leapt enormously because I was only paid eight pounds a week at Debenham and Free Body and met Miss Muirs at Jane and Jane.

薪水卻大幅跳升，因為我在 Debenham and Free Body 時一週只領八英鎊，然後在 Jane and Jane 遇見了穆爾小姐。

薪水漲到 10 英鎊，這是一筆錢。

She'd say, joanna, Darling, go to Philbert's Place and get us something lovely for lunch.

她會說，Joanna，親愛的，去 Philbert's Place 幫我們買點好吃的午餐。

I've got Geraldine Stutz coming in from Bendel's.

我有 Geraldine Stutz 要從 Bendel's 來。

I lived in a shared flat in Earl's Court with practically nothing to eat.

我住在 Earl's Court 的合租公寓裡，幾乎沒什麼東西吃。

我根本不知道什麼是好吃的東西。

Anyway, I'd go to Fubert's Place and I'd say, could you give me some nice things for lunch?

反正，我就會去 Philbert's Place，然後說，能不能給我準備些好吃的午餐？

I literally didn't know what nice things for lunch would be.

我真的不知道什麼才算是好吃的午餐。

And I'd come back to something and miss me.

然後我就會帶著東西回來，還有穆爾小姐。

I stopped working for her after three months and I went out to become a photographic model and then to become an actress.

我為她工作了三個月後就辭職了，去當了攝影模特兒，然後又去當了演員。

for her fashion shows I would always go back and walk for Miss Muir at the fashion shows.

在她的時裝秀上，我總是會回去，為穆爾小姐走秀。

By this time she'd stopped being Jane and Jane and she'd become Jean Muir and she'd moved to 22 Bruton Street.

這時候她已經不再是 Jane and Jane，而是 Jean Muir，也搬到了 Bruton Street 22 號。

on the days of the sales of the shows, they would put out little tiny gold chairs.

在服裝秀銷售的日子裡，他們會擺出小小的金色椅子。

Very traditional, tiny gold chairs crammed with people and we were scruffed in the back.

非常傳統，擠滿人的小金色椅子，我們就擠在後面。

There were four of us who usually did them.

像芭蕾舞者一樣，紅脣，就這樣。

And we'd get into the clothes, all racked up very, very quickly.

然後我們會非常非常快地換上衣服，全部都掛在那裡。

Have to do small buttons and things like this, then slink out.

要扣小小的鈕扣之類的，然後悄悄地出去。

Harry, Jean's husband, would put on some jazz music because she loved cool, very cool things.

Jean的老公Harry會放一些爵士樂，因為她喜歡很酷、非常酷的東西。

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