Name: 基督徒不喜歡我關於上帝與撒旦的視頻21 個回覆 (Christians Did Not Like My Video on God vs. Satan! 21 Responses)
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Spoilers God wins in the end next pathetic argument.

劇透 上帝最終贏了 下一個可悲的論點。

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This is one of a handful of comments We're gonna go through today that are in reaction or response to my video on God verse Satan a book by book breakdown We did part one Which was just the Old Testament those 39 books of the Protestant Canon and I thought it would be good to kind of level set Here with a comment reaction video before next Sunday.

這是我們今天要討論的評論之一，這些評論都是對我關於《上帝與撒旦》的視頻的反應或迴應，我們已經逐書分析了第一部分，也就是《舊約》和新教正典中的 39 卷書，我想在下週日之前，在這裡放一段評論反應視頻會比較好。

We will do part two the New Testament I'd encourage everyone to go and watch that video.

我們將做第二部分《新約全書》，我鼓勵大家去看那段視頻。

It is truly one of my favorite videos I have made because of its practical application There is so much fear mongering with the devil and demons so much Credit given to them for the fall of man and the sin and suffering in the world but that's simply not the story we get at least not in the Old Testament and what that's going to show us is this evolution this man-made creation of myth that Changes the bad guy by the time we get to the New Testament, but that took a 400 year gap to do So two things one.

這確實是我最喜歡的視頻之一，因為它具有實際應用價值，有太多關於魔鬼和惡魔的恐懼宣傳，有太多關於人類墮落、罪孽和世界苦難的功勞歸於魔鬼和惡魔，但這根本不是我們所瞭解的故事，至少在《舊約全書》中不是這樣。

I want to do a quick recap of where in the Old Testament We found an enemy of God and then we're gonna get into the comments.

我想先簡要回顧一下《舊約》中哪些地方出現了上帝的敵人，然後我們就開始評論。

There's not as many to get into today It's kind of like if you do nothing but read the Bible at Christians.

就像你什麼都不做，只在基督徒面前讀《聖經》一樣。

There's not a whole lot They can say in defense.

So at hyperspeed level in Genesis We have the serpent and that's it the most clever of all the animals It isn't until revelation that is a retcon that we get it associated with the devil in numbers We have a Satan not the Satan there is no such person Entity agent Satan it is a role.

是以，在《創世紀》中，我們看到了蛇，它是所有動物中最聰明的，直到《啟示錄》的重寫，我們才在數字上將它與魔鬼聯繫起來。我們有一個撒旦，而不是撒旦，沒有這樣一個人，實體代理撒旦，它只是一個角色。

It is a title and here he is an angel of the Lord helping God He is blocking Balaam's path in 1st Samuel God sends torment Saul for not committing the genocide all the way in 1st Kings God sends a lying spirit It wasn't the devil who did that in 1st Chronicles Satan incites David to take a census which was a sin which in another book It says God incited so contradiction or they're on the same team again in Job We get the closest thing we have to a Christian idea of Satan because he does do harm He kills ten of Job's children as well as some workers as well as tortures Job Not saying that that was not a bad thing but he only did it after God approved his request because you know he could come and go as He pleased from the Heavenly Council and get God to do things that God didn't need to do which God admits in Ezekiel There is a story about the king of Tyre that Christians try to show as the devil being in the garden But it's not again.

在《撒母耳記上》中，他阻擋巴蘭的去路；在《列王記上》中，上帝因為掃羅沒有犯下滅絕種族的罪行而派人折磨他；在《歷代志上》中，上帝派來了一個說謊的靈，但這並不是魔鬼所為；在《歷代志下》中，撒旦煽動大衛進行人口普查，而這是一種罪惡，在另一卷書中，撒旦說這是上帝煽動的。他殺死了約伯的十個孩子和一些工人，並折磨約伯，這並不是壞事，但他是在上帝準許了他的請求之後才這麼做的，因為你知道他可以在天國議會里來去自如，讓上帝做一些上帝不需要做的事情，這一點上帝在《以西結書》中也承認了，有一個關於推羅王的故事，基督徒試圖把它說

You can watch my video for the details I'm just doing the quick run-through and Daniel we get reference to the Prince of Persia and the Prince of Greece as these supernatural Entities but literally all it did was delay the angel by a week or two from getting to Daniel and then in Zechariah We have a Satan an agent again accusing Joshua.

你可以看我的視頻瞭解詳情，我只是簡單介紹一下，但以理書中提到了波斯王子和希臘王子這些超自然的實體，但從字面上看，他們所做的只是將天使到達但以理書的時間延後了一兩週，然後在撒迦利亞書中，撒旦的代理人再次指責約書亞。

That's his job He is the prosecutor and I might have missed one or two on that recap, but that's pretty much it so for Thousands of years when we get the origin story and the law and the prophets and all of this information from God Of course, he forgot all the stuff like he has a son or he's part of a Trinity or there's a hell or even a heaven But he also definitely forgot to give us all that important information that we get in the New Testament About the devil so pretty eye-opening pretty problematic.

這是他的工作，他是公訴人，我可能漏掉了一兩處，但差不多就是這樣，所以幾千年來，當我們從上帝那裡得到起源故事、律法、先知和所有這些資訊時，他當然忘記了所有的東西，比如他有一個兒子，或者他是三位一體的一部分，或者有地獄，甚至有天堂，但他也絕對忘記了給我們所有這些重要的資訊，我們在《新約聖經》中得到了關於魔鬼的資訊，所以非常令人大開眼界，非常有問題。

And again, all I did was read the Bible So back to this first comment spoilers God wins in the end next pathetic argument You know victorious Catholic year has almost never actually engaged with the content of the videos themselves It's just some quip like this and we won't focus on him thinking that it's a pathetic argument.

再說一遍，我所做的一切都是在讀《聖經》，所以回到這第一條評論劇透上帝最後贏了下一個可悲的論點你知道勝利的天主教年幾乎從未真正接觸過視頻內容本身，它只是像這樣的一些調侃，我們不會關注他認為這是一個可悲的論點。

It's not it's an excellent argument Because it's based in fact, but this particular quip I think is so showing of many Christians attitudes when they get shown the Old Testament and all of the horror Who cares God wins in the end might makes right?

這不是一個很好的論據，因為它是基於事實的，但我認為這個特別的調侃很好地展示了許多基督徒的態度，當他們看到《舊約全書》和所有的恐怖時，誰在乎上帝最終會贏，強權即公理？

I don't care about morals I don't care about anything that I claim.

我不在乎道德，我不在乎我聲稱的任何東西。

I don't care about what's in the book I don't care what you say about my God.

我不在乎書裡寫了什麼，我不在乎你怎麼說我的上帝。

All I know is cherry-picked wherever I want it to be he wins So that's the side.

我只知道我想讓他贏，他就能贏。

I'm on it's immature It's disgusting and again, it only works if you even believe the Bible to be a good source of truth But it wasn't Satan that was deceiving people or hardening hearts or killing by the tens of thousands It was God.

我認為這是不成熟的，是令人厭惡的，再說一遍，只有當你相信《聖經》是真理的正確來源時，它才會起作用，但欺騙人、使人心腸硬或殺人成千上萬的不是撒旦，而是上帝。

So maybe we want to rethink that one next.

所以，也許我們下一步應該重新考慮這個問題。

I do try to call these out when they come up as a Christian I really like watching your videos to challenge me and make me question the truth about life in my religion I ask you not to attack me for believing in God still never would never will I appreciate your ability to disagree kindly.

作為一名基督徒，我確實會在遇到這些問題時試著指出來，我很喜歡看你的視頻來挑戰我，讓我質疑我所信仰的宗教中的生命真相，我請求你不要因為我相信上帝而攻擊我，我仍然不會永遠不會，我很欣賞你善意地提出不同意見的能力。

I don't know if you'll deconvert or not I'm glad you have an open mind and I hope I've made it clear that I have zero intention of attacking people for the sole Purpose of being a Christian.

我不知道你是否會改變信仰，但我很高興你有一個開放的心態，我希望我已經說得很清楚，我無意僅僅因為自己是基督徒而攻擊別人。

Most of my family and friends are Christians I understand why you believe what you believe I've come to the belief though that that belief is wrong and that it is harmful and so where and when I can help people Who are already?

我的大部分家人和朋友都是基督徒，我理解你們為什麼相信你們所相信的東西，但我認為這種信仰是錯誤的，是有害的，所以我可以在何時何地幫助那些已經是基督徒的人。

Deconstructing and deconverting I try to do so I know it can come off as offensive to many people's belief and a lot of these negative comments Not that this is one is just a defense mechanism And so I totally understand but I'm also going to point it out because I think it shows a lot of the error and harm But I do appreciate your kind comment This one says if you have not been saved then you are not under the Holy Spirit But the evil spirit to me the gospel is the power of salvation I can't become ignorant to defend what you guys twist the truth for your convenience feeling complacent with your own stupidity and Foolishness, so the first thing here is that there's only two camps you either have the Holy Spirit where you have an evil spirit But that's just not true.

我知道這可能會冒犯很多人的信仰，而且很多負面評論 並非如此，這只是一種防禦機制，所以我完全理解，但我也要指出來，因為我認為這顯示了很多錯誤和危害。感謝你的善意評論，這個評論說，如果你沒有得救，那麼你就不在聖靈之下，但邪靈對我來說，福音是救贖的大能，我不能變得無知，為你們為了方便而扭曲真理的行為辯護，為自己的愚蠢和愚昧而沾沾自喜、首先，這裡只有兩個陣營，要麼是聖靈，要麼是邪靈，但事實並非如此。

即使從我剛剛讀到的內容來看也是如此。

It was God himself who sent literally raw evil an evil spirit Again, it did not come from the devil.

又是上帝親自派來的惡魔，它並非來自魔鬼。

That's why it's important to get a biblical foundation That's why I'm doing these videos in the first place because otherwise you just spout nonsense Also, what kind of a corrupt system would it be?

這也是我製作這些視頻的初衷，否則你只會胡說八道。

Well, it actually is presented this way I mean you're close Theologically here that we're born into sin We're already cursed with death and hell because of what someone else did in the past So in that regard we are under an evil spirit Unless we get lucky enough to believe the truth and God gives us his Holy Spirit Is this what a Holy Spirit looks like this kind of comment because if it is I want nothing to do with it It's ignorant.

從神學角度講，我們生來就有罪，因為別人過去的所作所為，我們已經受到死亡和地獄的詛咒，所以從這個角度講，我們處於邪靈之下，除非我們足夠幸運，相信真理，上帝賜予我們聖靈，這就是聖靈的樣子嗎？

It's not patient maybe go look up the gifts of the Holy Spirit again in the power that is supposed to come with it for anyone as a New creation because this isn't it So this is a bad witness on top of an incorrect statement, and I don't know if I quite understand the second part here I can't become ignorant to defend what you guys twist the truth for your convenience It's not for our convenience, it's just what the truth is So nor is it a twist instead of this kind of a comment?

這不是耐心，也許你可以再去查查聖靈的恩賜，看看作為新造的人應該具有的能力，因為這不是它，所以這是一個不正確的陳述之外的一個糟糕的見證，我不知道我是否完全理解這裡的第二部分，我不能變得無知，為你們為了方便而扭曲真理的行為辯護，這不是為了我們的方便，這就是真理，所以也不是扭曲，而不是這樣的評論？

Tell me what I got wrong Specifically where when I went through the verses about Satan or Lucifer fallen angels evil spirits Where did I get it wrong?

告訴我，當我讀到有關撒旦或路西法墮落天使邪靈的經文時，我具體哪裡說錯了 我哪裡說錯了？

Specifically and how do you know Larry says things were changed?

具體來說，你怎麼知道拉里說事情被改變了？

Infinities of new angels were created and sent to the devil's revolt against our creator These new angels cut up the angels that were on the devil's side It was a route thousands of new archangels were also created and sent to the devil's revolt These new archangels cut the devil up into pieces The past is being changed the changes to the past are being brought forward to the present sincerely the senior foundation creator I am NOT Larry.

無窮無盡的新天使被創造出來，並被派往魔鬼反抗造物主的地方，這些新天使將站在魔鬼一邊的天使分屍，這是一條路線，成千上萬的新天使長也被創造出來，並被派往魔鬼反抗的地方，這些新天使長將魔鬼分屍，過去正在被改變，對過去的改變正在被帶到現在，真誠的高級基礎創造者，我不是拉里。

Oh, I Grabbed this just based off how it started I'm now reading it in full for the first time the senior foundation creator.

哦，我只是根據它的開頭抓住了這一點，現在我第一次完整地閱讀了它，這位資深的基金會創建者。

We can just ignore this This is just obviously a bunch of nonsense Nor is there any biblical or even church tradition or history to give any kind of credit to this?

我們可以忽略這一點，這顯然是一派胡言，也沒有任何聖經甚至教會的傳統或歷史可以證明這一點。

But I think if we can try to make use of it It shows that many people don't care about the basis for their faith.

但我認為，如果我們能嘗試利用它，就會發現很多人並不關心他們的信仰基礎。

There's so much Fanfiction as if the Bible itself is not already fanfiction that is on top of the canon where people have these ideas about what happened in the war in heaven and what the reality in the spiritual realm is now and not only do none of them agree With each other and many of them cancel each other out, but many of them like this are simply not even biblical and thus Additionally ridiculous so we can move on from this Luthier says mind shift following truth wherever it leads unless it leads to Christ or Hear me out here The truth doesn't lead to Christ and therefore I am willing to follow it because I left a very easy life in Christianity to make my life very additionally difficult by being the only person in my family and community That no longer believes I think I have proven I'm willing to follow truth Even if you don't agree that I have the truth now and I'm willing to still be wrong about many things But the Christian God has been falsified and until someone can actually show me where I'm wrong in my thinking about that Which comments like this come nowhere near doing?

有太多的 "粉絲小說"（Fanfiction），就好像《聖經》本身就不是 "粉絲小說"（Fanfiction），而是在正典之上的 "粉絲小說"（Fanfiction），人們對天堂戰爭中發生的事情和現在靈界的現實有各種想法，這些想法不僅沒有一個是一致的，而且很多還相互抵消、但其中有許多根本就不符合聖經，是以是荒謬的 所以我們可以繼續討論這個問題 路迪爾說，要轉變思想，無論真理通向何方，除非它通向基督 聽我說，真理並不通向基督，是以我願意追隨它 因為我離開了基督教中非常輕鬆的生活我想我已經證明了我願意追隨真理

Yeah, no, I'm gonna stay where I am Robert says is a true believer I am aware by the gift of the Holy Spirit the swarmed of false doctrine preachers I've read fake Bibles heard false preachers.

是的，不，我要留在原地，羅伯特說我是一個真正的信徒，我通過聖靈的恩賜意識到虛假教義的傳道者蜂擁而至，我讀過假的《聖經》，聽過假的傳道者。

I get if a non-believers you come across this guy if He asking for money question mark exclamation going to church once a month give tithe as God asks if a pleasing at 10% as well if able to give every week great But you hear the sermon for free have a Bible when have a spirit to learn we do Not everyone has English as the first language.

我明白，如果一個不信教的人你遇到這個傢伙，如果他要錢問號感嘆號每月去一次教堂，給什一稅，因為上帝要求，如果一個討人喜歡的10％，以及如果能夠給每星期偉大，但你聽到免費的佈道有一本聖經，當有一個精神來學習，我們做的不是每個人都有英語作為第一語言。

So I try very hard not to criticize grammar anything like that This is very difficult to understand as it is even without all of the mistakes But if I'm trying to gain as much out of this as possible to respond to again It seems like if you don't like what you hear about your own Bible, which again you can argue about canon differences, etc those 39 books are 100% the bases or at least the beginning bases of the Christian faith as well as the Jewish faith and also Islamic traditions you can say there's others that should be in there But to deny any part of those 39 like it's some kind of a fake Bible or that you should only lean on the Holy Spirit you're only leaning on the Holy Spirit because that's a term you got from the New Testament Which built off of the Old Testament you don't get to do this This is such a common response anytime I've covered Old Testament stuff in general is just for the Christian to act like it doesn't matter how unbelievably Dishonest to think that say that or believe that your God sure didn't your Messiah Sure, didn't Jesus upheld the Old Testament to an insane degree Yes, he acted against it a few times, which is also problematic, but he also affirmed it a lot Also, if you believe God is immutable and that Jesus was there at creation, then you do need to contend with it It's just not to get out of jail free card that so many Christians think it is to act like it's been corrupted or the Old Testament doesn't matter.

所以我很努力地不去責備文法之類的東西，即使沒有所有的錯誤，這本書也很難理解，但如果我想從中獲得儘可能多的東西來再次迴應的話，似乎如果你不喜歡你所聽到的關於你自己的《聖經》的內容，你可以再次爭論教規的差異、但如果否認這39本書中的任何部分，就好像它是偽造的《聖經》，或者你只應該依靠聖靈，你只是在依靠聖靈因為這是你從新約中得到的術語 新約建立在舊約的基礎上 你不能這麼做 這是我每次講到舊約時常見的反應是的，他有幾次違背了舊約，這也是有問題的，但他也經常肯定舊約。此外，如果你相信上帝是永恆不變的，耶穌在創世時就

All of those excuses don't help you Maybe they help you feel better, but they don't change the truth.

所有這些藉口都幫不了你 也許它們能讓你感覺好些，但它們改變不了事實。

So this next one we're gonna double dip This is back to Luth and the reason that I want to cover it is because hey He was willing to watch a lot of the video he's at minute 42 that he references here and at least that sounds like it could set us up for an actual defense of one of The claims I made in the video So here it is at 42 20 Which by the way is me giving the account of when God in Ezekiel commands him not to mourn his wife that God just killed And here's his response Just how dense are you God's one specific example gives you license to extrapolate for all humanity I didn't do that.

所以下一個我們要雙管齊下，這是回盧斯，我之所以要講是因為他願意看很多視頻，他在第42分鐘提到了這裡，至少這聽起來可以讓我們為我在視頻中提出的一個主張進行實際辯護。他的回答是："你到底有多蠢，上帝的一個具體例子就能讓你推斷出全人類？

I just didn't do that It sounds like you are acknowledging though that this is one of the I think I gave at least three times 39 So that's a hundred and seventeen examples and some had more in that one video alone So no, I don't need to just cherry-pick one little thing and extrapolate.

但聽起來你似乎承認，這是我至少舉過三次的例子之一，一共有 177 個。

I was just giving an account of God's nature He's willing to interfere in our free will Purposely kill someone's wife for something she had nothing to do with and then demand the husband can't even mourn her what an insane Defense it's not a defense.

我只是在說明上帝的本性，他願意幹涉我們的自由意志 故意殺死別人的妻子，因為她與此事毫無關係，然後要求丈夫甚至不能為她哀悼 真是瘋狂的辯護，這不是辯護。

You can't defend it And so you have to make something up that I tried to extrapolate this further than I did I did not and then there's a second part Like we would tell a child about to pick up an explosive put the Bible away from you Please before you hurt yourself and others you degenerate hack Again, peace of the Holy Spirit the love and kindness and joy of the Holy Spirit always on display in these comments So me accurately reading the Bible and sharing that is akin to a child picking up an explosive Maybe if the end goal is to continue to believe in the Bible this next one's long I apologize, but I had only read the first paragraph here and it caught my attention.

你無法為它辯護，所以你必須編造一些我試圖推斷的東西，我沒有這樣做，然後還有第二部分，就像我們會告訴一個即將拿起炸藥的孩子，把聖經從你身邊拿開，請在你傷害自己和他人之前，你這個墮落的黑客、聖靈的平安 聖靈的愛、仁慈和喜樂總是在這些評論中展現出來 所以我準確地閱讀《聖經》並分享這一點，就好比一個孩子拿起一個爆炸物 也許如果最終目的是繼續相信《聖經》 下一篇很長，我很抱歉，但我只讀了第一段，它引起了我的注意。

So I'm gonna read that We'll see if we want to go on it starts God reveals himself to Moses.

所以我要讀一下，看看我們是否要繼續讀下去。 上帝開始向摩西顯現自己。

Moses is transfigured He is confronted by Satan Moses sees many inhabited worlds worlds without number were created by the Sun God's work and glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man again This is why it's so important to have a proper biblical education If you are going to be a Christian or defend these things Moses is never confronted by Satan That simply doesn't happen We do have a weird verse in the New Testament that tells a story about the archangel and the devil Having a conversation about Moses his dead body The archangel is like I'm budding out of this and God steps in and God buries Moses his body Somewhere where no one knows but that story's in Jude.

摩西變身，與撒旦對峙 摩西看到了許多有人居住的世界 太陽創造了無數的世界 上帝的工作和榮耀就是讓人類再次獲得不朽和永生 這就是為什麼接受適當的聖經教育如此重要 如果你想成為一名基督徒，或者為這些事情辯護 摩西從未與撒旦對峙 這根本不可能發生。我們在《新約聖經》中確實有一段奇怪的經文 講述了天使長和魔鬼就摩西的屍體進行對話的故事 天使長說我要離開這裡，上帝介入了，上帝把摩西的屍體埋在了什麼地方，沒有人知道，但這個故事在《猶大書》中有記載。

Well, this is frustrating You'll notice I have a new mic in front of me.

你會發現我面前有一個新麥克風。

I finished the rest of that entire video I sat down to begin the editing process and realized that pretty early into my video The mic completely cut out.

我完成了整個視頻的其餘部分，坐下來開始剪輯，發現視頻剛開始，麥克風就完全斷掉了。

I hope this still sounds good It might be a nice little a B test here, but I'm going to for the third time today sit down to film Hopefully my brain keeps up.

我希望這聽起來還不錯，這可能是一個不錯的小 B 測試，但我今天要第三次坐下來拍攝了，希望我的大腦能跟得上。

Here we go Our next comment is from Carl Wilson who did a clown emoji and then that laughing face He really got me, but I wanted to make sure it was a Christian comment So what I do is always just click on their profile and when I did that I saw that he has left 14 comments on the channel and it shows the most recent to he said get a life and get another hobby I think this is hilarious.

我們的下一條評論來自卡爾-威爾遜（Carl Wilson），他用小丑表情符號做了一個大笑的表情，他真的吸引了我，但我想確保這是一條基督徒的評論，所以我總是點擊他們的個人主頁，當我點擊時，我看到他在頻道上留下了 14 條評論，並顯示了最近的一條評論，他說 "找個生活，換個愛好"，我覺得這太搞笑了。

I love my hobby and I love my life And I'm so sorry that yours seems to be trolling on the internet I wish for you that you can find something you're as passionate about as I am helping people as they deconstruct from religion You don't have to like it.

我熱愛我的愛好，我熱愛我的生活，很遺憾你的愛好似乎就是在網上閒逛，我希望你能找到像我一樣熱愛的事情，幫助人們從宗教中解構出來，你不必喜歡它。

We can do better Okay, it's hard for me to now remember what I've said before and what I haven't so forgive me But we're gonna double dip here with victorious Catholic because at least this has the semblance of an argument unlike his first comment It says I'm asking everyone this and honest gut check answers are encouraged.

我們可以做得更好 好吧，我現在很難記住我之前說過什麼，沒說過什麼，所以請原諒我，但我們還是要和勝利的天主教徒說兩句，因為至少這還有點論證的味道，不像他的第一條評論，上面寫著我在問大家這個問題，鼓勵誠實的直覺回答。

The Bible canon was decided in 397 Here we are in the year 2025.

聖經》正典於 397 年確定 現在是 2025 年。

1628 years the objections raised in this video were never once brought up and still went with no answer That's very hard to believe so it's better to just reject the video Okay, the logic drops off pretty hard here at the end because People have had answers in the past.

1628年來，這段視頻中提出的反對意見從未被提出過一次，而且仍然沒有答案 這很難讓人相信，所以還是拒絕接受這段視頻吧 好吧，邏輯在結尾處掉得很厲害，因為過去人們已經有了答案。

You should just reject anything that comes up a second time in the present or future Here's how you can know you're not consistent with this Muslims say the exact same thing and I assume based off your name here that you are not a Muslim But when an atheist or a Christian critiques Islam, they say very similar things.

你應該拒絕任何在現在或將來再次出現的東西，這樣你就能知道你與這一點並不一致，穆斯林也是這麼說的，根據你的名字我猜你不是穆斯林。

如果不是，為什麼要在這裡使用？

I've also covered this topic here in the video where Christians respond You think you're the first person to think of this?

我在視頻中也提到了這個話題，基督徒在視頻中迴應道 你以為你是第一個想到這個問題的人嗎？

No, I don't but I do hope to be able to explain it to a new group of people in a new way and also I'm sure that you never chastise the Apologist or the evangelist for covering old ground as long as they are I shall continue to as well And there's a further problem here.

不，我沒有，但我確實希望能夠以一種新的方式向新的一群人解釋它，而且我確信，你從來沒有責備過辯士或傳道士翻舊賬，只要他們還在翻舊賬，我也會繼續翻舊賬。

You say that it took 397 years to come up with the canon Let's pretend it's year 396 and someone says an argument like yours guys for almost four centuries since Jesus We have not been able to figure out which book should be in which one shouldn't what method we use to decide that Maybe we should just reject this whole thing I mean, it's not as long as 1600 years but 400 years is still a long time of things being a certain way So by your logic here, it shouldn't have progressed after that and like it or not things are progressing in this way There are more people doing what I'm doing They are reaching more people and more people are waking up to the truth of this religion Instead of what they were doing which again goes directly against your argument Which was going to church every Sunday to hear the same thing from the same kinds of pastors at the same Bible studies the same Small groups the same worship and prayer nights like if anyone is covering unnecessary Already covered ground.

你說用了397年才有了正典 我們就當現在是396年 有人說了你這樣的論點 耶穌之後的近4個世紀裡不管你喜不喜歡，事情正在以這種方式發展，有更多的人在做我正在做的事情，他們正在接觸更多的人，更多的人正在覺醒，認識到這個宗教的真理，而不是像他們以前那樣，這又直接違背了你的論點，即每個星期天去教堂聽同樣的牧師講同樣的事情，同樣的聖經學習，同樣的小組活動，同樣的敬拜和禱告之夜，就像任何人都在覆蓋不必要的已經覆蓋過的土地一樣。

So better than your first comment still terrible to make up for that though We have another wonderful comment from a Christian.

比你的第一條評論要好得多，但還是很糟糕，不過我們有另一條來自基督徒的精彩評論。

上面寫著你好，布蘭登，我是一名基督徒。

I've watched a few of your videos and they are always brilliantly and thoroughly made I think it's important that despite our differences in views challenging my views helps me stay intellectually fit I'm a seeker of truth and I believe being open to critiques and deposing perspectives to my own is important Thanks, you are so welcome.

我看過你的一些視頻，它們總是製作得非常出色和透徹。我認為，重要的是，儘管我們的觀點不同，但挑戰我的觀點有助於我保持智力健康，我是一個真理的追尋者，我相信接受批評和對我自己的觀點提出質疑是很重要的。

Someone is thinking or challenging themselves I consider it a wonderful win even despite any differences or whatever outcome might be reached here Thanks for being an example along with the other commenter for all these others next Let us not fall from love as the fallen angels have done a long time ago my friends It is their main plan to separate every soul from Holy God who they no longer are connected with at all All right, let's dive into this.

有人在思考或挑戰自己，我認為這是一個美妙的勝利，即使有任何分歧或可能在這裡達成的任何結果 謝謝你和其他評論者為所有這些人樹立了榜樣，接下來，讓我們不要像墮落天使很久以前所做的那樣從愛中墮落，我的朋友們，他們的主要計劃是將每個靈魂與神聖的上帝分開，他們不再與上帝有任何聯繫。

So you believe in the story of the fallen angels not all Christians do in fact It's actually pretty hard to pull that out biblically and then you claim to know that their main plan is to separate every soul from Holy God who they're no longer connected with Understanding the motivations of demons is hilarious to me.

所以你相信墮落天使的故事，而不是所有的基督徒都相信，事實上這很難從聖經中找到答案，然後你聲稱自己知道他們的主要計劃是讓每個靈魂與神聖的上帝分離，因為他們已經不再與上帝有聯繫了，瞭解惡魔的動機對我來說很搞笑。

But aside from that, let's go with it Their goal is to separate every soul That is what you had said and yet we don't really see this behavior until the New Testament Which we can understand the influences that contributed to this new behavior So tell me why were these demons since the beginning of history?

他們的目標是分離每個人的靈魂 這就是你所說的，但我們直到《新約》才真正看到這種行為。

Because I assume that's when you think the fall happened all those fallen angels rebelling against God So from that time until the time of Jesus, why didn't they care about all of those souls?

因為我猜你認為墮落是在那時發生的，所有那些墮落的天使都在反抗上帝，所以從那時起直到耶穌的時代，他們為什麼不關心那些靈魂呢？

Why don't we hear about that in the origin story of this religion?

為什麼我們在這個宗教的起源故事中聽不到這些呢？

Maybe because it's an evolution again It is just not consistent nor even really biblical.

也許因為這又是一種進化，但這並不一致，甚至不符合聖經。

We'll read a couple from this next commenter as well His messenger says the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and honestly at this point I'm just happy to hear someone quote something from the actual Bible.

他的信使說，敬畏耶和華是智慧的開端。老實說，此時此刻，我只是很高興聽到有人引用《聖經》中的話。

In fact, even something from the Old Testament and If we make wisdom just about staying alive and not suffering then based off everything I shared about all the horrors this God did in the Old Testament You would be right that the beginning of wisdom is to fear God But would that be a good thing and would that make this God true?

事實上，即使是《舊約全書》中的一些內容，如果我們把智慧僅僅理解為活命和不受苦，那麼根據我所分享的這位上帝在《舊約全書》中所做的一切恐怖行為，你就會正確地認為智慧的開端是敬畏上帝，但這是好事嗎？

No, and no, but then you left a second comment It said in heaven Satan and his minions tried to pull a January 6th on the God of Abraham Isaac and Israel and failed miserably First did they fail?

沒有，也沒有，但你又留下了第二條評論 它說，在天堂裡，撒旦和他的爪牙們試圖對亞伯拉罕-以撒和以色列的上帝實施 "一月六日 "計劃，結果慘遭失敗 他們第一次失敗了嗎？

I have a video called God lost evil one Which is within the hypothetical that anything written in the Bible is accurate God desires that no one should be lost and yet if we believe what many Christians do that Everyone who is in sin and suffering It's caused by the devil and his demons and billions have gone and will go to hell then I don't know I think it was a pretty successful coup Don't you kind of seems like God's really not the one in control here, but it's beside the point Which is what I called out I said which verse about Satan that I explained did I get wrong trying to keep things on track to which you said What does your question have to do with my comment?  the Disconnect between people that claim to have perfect truth and that I'm the silly dumb one that doesn't know what they're talking about and then Cannot follow a simple chain of logic here.

我有一個視頻叫做 "上帝迷失了邪惡的人"，這個視頻是在假設聖經中的任何記載都是準確的情況下拍攝的，上帝不希望任何人迷失，但如果我們像許多基督徒那樣相信，每個人都在犯罪和受苦，這都是魔鬼和他的惡魔造成的，數十億人已經下了地獄，而且還將下地獄，那麼我不知道，我認為這是一次相當成功的政變，你不覺得這有點像上帝真的不是掌控這裡的人、但這不是重點，這也是我要指出的，我說了哪節關於撒旦的經文，我解釋說我弄錯了，想讓事情保持正軌，你說你的問題和我的評論有什麼關係？  你的問題與我的評論有什麼關係？"自稱擁有完美真理的人

It's a bit telling you're the one off topic.

你才是偏離主題的那個人，這有點說不過去。

You're the one Bringing up the supposedly failed coup attempt that's not even biblical in response to me going through 39 actual books of the canon saying what is Actually said about this entity or entities, but okay this next commenter tiger I'll monkey left three comments and I think we're gonna do all of them God doubled what Job lost at the end Job didn't get 20 more kids He got 10 meaning the other 10 kids are in heaven Trent Horne tried to make a similar argument although not quite as ridiculous as this that we're supposed to glean something from the fact that God doubled everything except the Children but timeout.

是你提出了所謂的失敗的政變企圖，這甚至不是聖經的迴應，我通過39個實際的書籍的正典，說什麼是實際上說的這個實體或實體、但好吧，下一個評論者 "老虎 "和 "猴子 "留下了三條評論，我想我們要把它們都做完，上帝把約伯失去的東西加倍了，最後約伯並沒有多得到20個孩子，他得到了10個，這意味著另外10個孩子在天堂，特倫特-霍恩試圖提出一個類似的論點，雖然沒有這麼荒謬，但我們應該從上帝把除了孩子以外的所有東西都加倍的事實中得到一些東西，但超時了。

What do we actually know about this story?

我們對這個故事究竟瞭解多少？

We know there was a perfectly righteous man We know that Satan only at the allowance of God for a bet people think that's pedantic.

我們知道有一個完全公義的人，我們知道撒旦只是在上帝的允許下賭了一把，人們認為這很迂腐。

It is not that is what it is tortured this righteous man killed his workers took his friends from him had his wife turn on him and Worse definitely killed his ten children.

他的妻子背叛了他，更糟糕的是，他還殺死了自己的十個孩子。

That's what is said in the story This is not a defense of that even if the kids went to heaven So what does that make this God good?

故事裡是這麼說的，即使孩子們上了天堂，這也不是為他們辯護。

Does that make what he did here moral if?

如果是這樣，他在這裡的所作所為就道德了嗎？

compensation erases Responsibility of a perfect God and you have a pretty twisted moral system Just because someone is powerful enough to do something and then reward you for taking it on the chin Doesn't mean that was a good thing if I had the power to kill someone's ten children and also then to Make sure they got pregnant ten more times.

如果我有能力殺死某人的十個孩子，並確保他們再懷孕十次，這並不意味著這是一件好事。

Would I not be guilty of ten counts of child murder?

我豈不是犯了十項謀殺兒童罪？

Of course, I would why with a perfect being does the bar actually go lower?

當然，我想，為什麼有了完美的存在，標準就會降低呢？

I will never understand these kinds of defenses But it seems this individual likes to talk about kids because his next two comments are around that and they're even more disgusting Speaking about 14 year old virgins were ungodly animals as soon as nature say we're able to reproduce Let's go your argument does not work.

我永遠無法理解這種辯解，但這個人似乎喜歡談論孩子，因為他接下來的兩條評論都是圍繞孩子說的，而且更令人作嘔。 說 14 歲的處女是不虔誠的動物，只要大自然說我們能夠繁衍後代，我們就走吧，你的論點行不通。