Name: 我們真正想要使用的電影和電視技術 | The Vergecast (The movie and TV tech we actually want to use | The Vergecast)
Uploaded: 2025-07-18T17:28:17.000Z
Duration: 1 h 28 min 28 s

Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of flying cars that you will never fly.

歡迎收聽 Vergecast，這是關於你永遠不會駕駛的飛行汽車的旗艦播客。

I'm your friend David Pierce, and if you're seeing this or hearing it, it means I'm already dead.

我是你們的朋友戴維-皮爾斯 如果你們看到或聽到這個 就說明我已經死了

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I'm going to be gone through the rest of the summer.

Meeli Pesel, my co-host, is going to be gone probably sometime after me, but he's going to be gone for the summer too.

我的合作主持人 Meeli Pesel 可能會在我之後的某個時間離開，但他也會在夏天離開。

We're going to be back this fall, and we're going to be so excited to hang out with all of you and talk tech again after talking about just baby stuff for months.

我們將在今年秋天回來，我們將非常高興能和大家一起玩，在談論了幾個月的嬰兒用品之後，我們將再次談論科技。

We're very excited, but in the meantime, you are in exceptionally good hands.

我們非常激動，但與此同時，你們會得到非常好的照顧。

Jake Kastronakis on our team is going to be taking over the Friday show for the summer, and we have four guest hosts who are going to be with you all summer on the Tuesday show, and they are also my four guests today.

我們團隊中的傑克-卡斯特羅納基斯（Jake Kastronakis）將在這個夏天接手週五的節目，我們還有四位嘉賓主持人，他們將在整個夏天的週二節目中與大家見面，他們也是我今天的四位嘉賓。

VSong, Allison Johnson, Jen Tuohy, and Mia Sato are going to be hosting the show, and they have some big ideas about all the different kinds of stories that they're going to tell you.

VSong、Allison Johnson、Jen Tuohy 和 Mia Sato 將主持這檔節目，他們對將要為大家講述的各種故事都有自己的想法。

They've been working on some really fun stuff.

他們一直在研究一些非常有趣的東西。

We're going to have some stuff about all whatever chaotic news happens this summer.

無論今年夏天發生什麼亂七八糟的新聞，我們都會有所報道。

They're going to have a blast, and I think you're going to have a blast.

他們會玩得很開心，我想你們也會玩得很開心。

So I invited the four of them for my last episode here this summer to come with me and do something I've been wanting to do for a long time, which is look through the annals of movies and TV shows and all of the technology in all of them and try to decide what we would actually want in our life.

是以，在今年夏天的最後一期節目中，我邀請他們四人和我一起做一件我一直想做的事，那就是翻閱電影和電視節目的歷史，以及所有這些節目中的所有技術，並嘗試決定我們在生活中究竟想要什麼。

So we're going to do a bit of a draft today.

所以，我們今天要做一個草稿。

The five of us, we're going to pick five things each, and it's going to be chaos, and we're going to try to figure out what fictional tech do we want in our real lives.

我們五個人，每人挑選五樣東西，這將會是一片混亂，我們要試著找出我們在現實生活中想要的虛構科技。

All that is coming up in just a sec, but first, we've got to take a quick break because presumably I've got to go do some kid stuff.

這些馬上就會講完，但首先，我們得休息一下，因為我可能得去做一些孩子的事情。

I'm joined by the squad that is taking over the Verge cast this summer.

今年夏天，我的團隊將接管 Verge 劇組。

The four of you are going to just absolutely run me out of a job, and I literally could not be more excited about it.

你們四個人絕對會讓我失業的，我真的非常興奮。

In the order in which I see you, Allison Johnson's here.

按照我看到你們的順序 艾莉森-約翰遜在這裡

Jen Tuohy, also here with very cool lights in the background.

珍-陶西（Jen Tuohy），也在這裡，背景是非常酷的燈光。

V-Song, I believe, in a phone booth in our office.

我想，V-Song 是在我們辦公室的電話亭裡。

Hell yeah, and I brought my podcast mic with me to the office, so that's dedication.

當然，我還把播客麥克風帶到了辦公室，這就是我的奉獻精神。

Nothing more fun than a long podcast in a phone booth.

沒有什麼比在電話亭里長時間播客更有趣了。

You got the most TikTok-y podcast set up of all of us, so congratulations.

你是我們中最有 TikTok 風格的播客，恭喜你。

Oh my God, you're lucky I don't have my AirPod mic, you know what I mean?

哦，天哪，你該慶幸我沒帶 AirPod 麥克風，明白我的意思嗎？

For the new thing that they're doing, they're clipping a Rode mic onto a tube of lip gloss and then holding the lip gloss.

對於他們正在做的新事情，他們將 Rode 麥克風剪接到一管脣彩上，然後拿著脣彩。

There was a real, be honest to God, had a conversation about, what if all of David's recordings for the Verge cast were with the tiny little lavalier mic?

我們曾真誠地討論過，如果大衛為 "邊緣 "劇組錄製的所有錄音都使用領夾式麥克風會怎麼樣？

I'm 20 years too old to be able to pull that off.

我已經 20 歲了，不可能做到這一點。

Listen, he just put a number, and if he has taught me anything, an SPF measurement on sunscreen.

聽著，他只是給了我一個數字，如果他教過我什麼的話，那就是防晒霜的SPF值。

Okay, so here is how this draft is going to work.

好了，下面我們就來介紹一下這次選秀的流程。

The concept is essentially things that are in movies, TV shows, and I believe we said yes to video games, that we would like to lift out of those things and place in the real world.

這個概念本質上是電影、電視劇中的東西，我相信我們對電子遊戲也說過 "是"，我們希望從這些東西中提煉出來，放到現實世界中去。

And I think the way I've come to see it is it's like, it's not just one that's for you, but it's also not like everyone on earth has it.

我認為，我對它的理解是，它並不是只屬於你一個人的，但也並不是世界上每個人都擁有它。

It's it like, I would say like Mac Pro levels of adoption, right?

就像 Mac Pro 的採用率一樣，對吧？

Where like, if you see one, you're not like, oh weird, I've never seen that before.

在那裡，如果你看到一個，你就不會覺得 "哦，奇怪，我以前從沒見過"。

But you also like, don't assume that everyone you've ever met has one.

但你也要喜歡，不要以為你見過的每個人都有。

None of these things cost anything in these movies anyway, so they're just, it's just we're taking it out and putting it into our real lives.

反正這些東西在電影裡都不值錢，所以我們只是把它們拿出來，放到我們的現實生活中。

There are only, I would say, three rules that I have for you.

我想說，我對你們只有三條規則。

One is no weapons, which is just like, don't, don't be weird, we don't need that energy here.

一是沒有武器，這就好比說，不要，不要搞怪，我們這裡不需要那種能量。

Thing number two is you can't draft a concept, so you can't like, draft time travel or like, I don't know, cure all diseases.

第二點是你不能起草一個概念，所以你不能起草時間旅行，或者像，我不知道，包治百病。

It's like not, you just can't, you can't have that, even though that is like a thing that exists in the fiction of some of these things.

這就好比，你不能，你不能擁有它，儘管它就像是存在於某些小說中的東西。

If there is a gadget through which you can time travel, knock yourself out, but you can't just have the concept of time travel.

如果有一種小工具可以讓你穿越時空，那你就去試試吧，但你不能只有穿越時空的概念。

And the third thing is a rule that we just decided on earlier today, which is you're not allowed to try and make the world a better place.

第三件事是我們今天早些時候剛剛決定的一條規則，那就是你不能試圖讓世界變得更美好。

I was looking through, and the reason I love very much, but the reason this came up is I was looking through a bunch of stuff to make my own list for this draft.

我正在翻閱，我非常喜歡，但之所以會想到這個，是因為我正在翻閱一堆東西，為這次選秀製作我自己的名單。

And there's this thing in the movie Elysium, which I have never seen, called the med bay, I believe.

電影《極樂世界》裡有個東西，我沒看過，應該叫 "醫療艙 "吧。

And it's thing is it can diagnose and cure like, all diseases ever in history.

它的特點是可以診斷和治療歷史上所有的疾病。

And I immediately had this moment of being like, oh, well, I should draft this because that's great.

我立刻就想，哦，好吧，我應該起草這個，因為這很好。

And then I was like, that's stupid and boring.

然後我就想，這太愚蠢、太無聊了。

So you're not allowed, you're not allowed to make the world a better place.

所以你不被允許，你不被允許讓世界變得更美好。

And if that is your argument, you will be, you will be summarily rejected from your draft.

如果這是你的論點，你將會被立即從你的草案中否決。

So we're each going to pick five things, 25 things in total, which is actually kind of a large number.

所以我們每人要選五件事，總共 25 件事，這實際上是一個很大的數字。

And we're going to do it in sort of snake draft order.

So if you draft last at the end of the first round, you will then immediately draft again to start the second round.

是以，如果你在第一輪結束時最後一次選秀，那麼你將立即再次選秀，開始第二輪。

Oh, when this show goes live, we will, we will have a post on the verge.com with all of our picks laid out, and we will do some kind of poll.

哦，等節目上線後，我們會在 verge.com 上發佈一個帖子，列出我們所有的評選結果，並進行某種投票。

And I don't know if the verges, if we use WordPress, maybe WordPress lets us do a poll and I will be the first person to do that on the verge.com.

我不知道verge，如果我們使用WordPress，也許WordPress可以讓我們做一個民意調查，我將是第一個在verge.com上做民意調查的人。

Maybe we'll figure out some other way to do it, but we will do a poll and whoever wins, I don't know, I'll send you a Mac Pro.

也許我們會想出其他辦法，但我們會做一個投票，誰贏了，我不知道，我會送你一臺 Mac Pro。

Now he's not specified the year of Mac Pro, which is the little loophole, but Mac Pro.

現在，他沒有說明 Mac Pro 的年份，這是個小漏洞，但 Mac Pro 是有年份的。

I'm going to send you a trash can, and you're going to love it.

我會送你一個垃圾桶，你一定會喜歡的。

So first thing we need to do is pick the draft order.

是以，我們首先要做的就是選擇選秀順序。