Name: Law Roach 談贊達亞（Zendaya）、席琳-迪翁（Céline Dion）和收藏名牌聖盃 | The Good Buy | Harper's BAZAAR (Law Roach on Zendaya, Céline Dion, and Collecting Designer Grails | The Good Buy | Harper's BAZAAR)
Uploaded: 2025-06-17T16:27:14.000Z
Duration: 40 min 51 s

And I'm Lea Chernikoff, and this is Harper's Bazaar's The Good Buy.

我是 Lea Chernikoff，這裡是《時尚芭莎》的《The Good Buy》。

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Where we invite celebrities, designers, models, and tastemakers to talk shop.

在這裡，我們邀請名人、設計師、模特和品位人士暢所欲言。

What they buy, where they got it, and why it matters.

他們買了什麼，從哪裡買的，以及為什麼重要。

I'm, I think I'm in a, a bit of a like, a shoe re-evaluation.

我，我想我正在對鞋子進行重新評估。

I am thinking towards spring and summer a little.

我正在考慮向春季和夏季發展。

I find it the hardest season to dress for.

Anyway, I'm like, a white shoe, that's a good.

總之，我想，白鞋，那是個好東西。

Spring, something to make me look forward to.

And so I purchased the classic Repetto style, the ZZ, which is like a little white jazz shoe that Samira Nasser, our editor-in-chief, she owns and is always singing their praises.

於是我買了 Repetto 的經典款式 ZZ，就像我們的主編 Samira Nasser 擁有的一款白色爵士小鞋，她總是對它們讚不絕口。

So I bought them on the RealReal, and I've been trying to work them into my rotation.

所以我在 "真實 "網站上買了它們，並一直在嘗試將它們納入我的輪換計劃。

是啊，它們讓我感覺很有彈性。

Much in the white shoe category, actually.

I recently acquired a pair of boots from an amazing design duo called All In.

最近，我從一個名叫 All In 的神奇設計組合那裡買了一雙靴子。

They're out of Paris, and they've kind of, for a kind of new generation design house, have already had a hit kind of staple thing.

他們來自巴黎，作為新一代的設計公司，他們的主打產品已經大受歡迎。

And these boots that you might have seen with this eyelet kind of grommet detailing.

還有這雙靴子，你可能見過它的這種孔眼式釦眼細節。

And again, a kind of in-the-know, if-you-know-you-know thing.

同樣，這也是一種 "你知我知 "的事情。

They're finalists in this year's LVMH Prize.

他們入圍了今年的 LVMH 獎決賽。

And I own the black eyelet boots, but they have a variation of them in white that are flat.

我有一雙黑色的眼孔靴，但他們還有一雙白色的平底靴。

I'm just not clean enough by any stretch of the imagination.

But still, we do it anyway, because a white shoe is great.

但無論如何，我們還是要這麼做，因為白鞋很棒。

It's great, and it's really graphic, and I like the clean line of it.

它很棒，很有畫面感，我喜歡它簡潔的線條。

哦，好吧，我很高興看到他們。

Today on The Good Buy, we have a guest that we really, we have been waiting for.

今天，我們在《The Good Buy》節目中請到了一位嘉賓，真是讓我們期待已久。

Because he's an icon maker, known for creating the indelible fashion imagery we associate with Celine Dion, Naomi Campbell, and of course, Zendaya.

因為他是偶像的締造者，因創造了與席琳-迪翁、娜奧米-坎貝爾（Naomi Campbell），當然還有贊達亞（Zendaya）相關的不可磨滅的時尚形象而聞名。

In fact, he is not just one of the world's leading stylists.

事實上，他不僅是世界領先的造型師之一。

He is an image architect, and that is trademarked.

他是一位形象設計師，這一點已被註冊商標。

他的著作《如何打造時尚偶像》（How to Build a Fashion Icon、

Notes on Confidence, from the world's only image architects came out last year.

世界上唯一的形象建築師去年出版了《自信筆記》。

And now he is the newest judge on Project Runway, which is in its 21st season.

現在，他是《天橋驕子》（Project Runway）第 21 季的最新評審。

And what's amazing about our guest is that his career arc is truly singular.

我們的客人令人驚歎的是，他的職業生涯弧線確實是獨一無二的。

He's rewritten what it means to navigate this industry on your own terms.

他改寫了以自己的方式駕馭這個行業的意義。

He has not only created some of the most memorable fashion moments in recent history, but he also has a distinct and highly cultivated personal style.

他不僅創造了近代史上一些最令人難忘的時尚時刻，還擁有獨特而極具修養的個人風格。

He is a vintage expert, and we can't wait to get into all of it.

他是一位古董專家，我們迫不及待地想一探究竟。

I mean, I'm like, what do I do when you say all those things?

我的意思是，當你說這些話時，我該怎麼辦？

Sorry, we just like had to keep going and keep going because there's so much to talk about.

對不起，我們不得不一直說下去，因為有太多的話題要談。

Thank you for such a beautiful introduction.

I want to talk about shopping philosophies as it pertains to a stylist, because there's two ways that you shop.

我想談談與造型師有關的購物理念，因為購物有兩種方式。

You shop for a client and then you have your personal life and what you shop for.

你為客戶購物，然後你有自己的個人生活和購物目的。

How do you go about, like when you're shopping, like what are some things that you have in your head of like how you're going to get to the right place?

So for myself, it's, first of all, we all know clothes are expensive.

對我來說，首先，我們都知道衣服很貴。

So I like to shop for myself and buy things that I think are art or like worthy to be cherished, whether I wear them or not.

是以，我喜歡為自己購物，買那些我認為是藝術品或值得珍藏的東西，不管我穿不穿。

In like current and contemporary fashion.

不過，你也知道，這可是老古董了、

I'll spend anything on a piece, especially if it's something that I remember when I was younger that I wanted, that I couldn't afford.

我願意花任何錢去買一件東西，尤其是我記得年輕時想要卻買不起的東西。

I have kind of like this almost map of all these things that I saw and tried on like when I was a teenager and that I hunt for and search for for years and years and years.

我有一張類似地圖的東西，上面有我十幾歲時看到和試穿過的所有東西，這些東西讓我尋尋覓覓了很多年。

We got to talk about what some of those things are.

Okay, so one thing is I collect Tom Ford Gucci because for me, the 90s and that era is when I was really introduced to luxury, you know, via Lil' Kim and Foxy Brown.

好吧，有一件事是我收集 Tom Ford Gucci，因為對我來說，90 年代和那個時代是我真正接觸奢侈品的時候，你知道，是通過 Lil' Kim 和 Foxy Brown。

And so Tom Ford Gucci was, and I'm from Chicago.

湯姆-福特-古馳（Tom Ford Gucci）就是這樣，我來自芝加哥。

And back then the Gucci store was this little boutique on 600 North Michigan.

那時，Gucci 的專賣店是位於北密歇根 600 號的一家小精品店。

And I remember just going in there and trying on things.

I don't think that a young black boy was ever kind of welcomed into these places.

我不認為這些地方會歡迎一個年輕的黑人男孩。

And so that's another reason why I collect those things to show myself that, you know, that I've been able to achieve and I am a part of that world.

是以，這也是我收集這些東西的另一個原因，以向自己證明，你知道，我已經取得了成就，我是這個世界的一部分。

I gave Tommy Hilfiger his icon award at the British Fashion Awards.

我在英國時尚大獎上為湯米-希爾費格頒發了偶像獎。

And I went off script for a minute just to say, like, it's such a full circle moment for me to be giving him this award because I literally,

我脫稿了一會兒，只想說，對我來說，給他頒獎是一個圓滿的時刻，因為我真的、

I used to risk it all for a pair of Tommy overalls.

我曾經為了一條湯米工裝褲而冒險。

就像，我曾經，我們曾經去喜歡、

Marshall Fields was a big department store in Chicago.

Marshall Fields 是芝加哥的一家大型百貨商店。

And because it's like, we just, we didn't have it.

因為它就像，我們只是，我們沒有它。

And, you know, and it was like, but we had to be fly because clothes and my community, the way I grew up was also a point of survival, right?

而且，你知道，這就像，但我們不得不飛，因為衣服和我的社區，我長大的方式也是一個生存點，對不對？

If you had fly clothes and you dressed well, you became popular.

如果你有飛行服，穿得好，你就會受歡迎。

And, you know, for me, you know, me being gay, my last name Roach, I've always been very feminine, but I can outdress anybody.

而且，你知道，對我來說，我是同志，我姓羅奇，我一直都很女性化，但我可以勝過任何人。

Law Roach 談贊達亞（Zendaya）、席琳-迪翁（Céline Dion）和收藏名牌聖盃 | The Good Buy | Harper's BAZAAR (Law Roach on Zendaya, Céline Dion, and Collecting Designer Grails | The Good Buy | Harper's BAZAAR)

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