Name: 最後的深夜秀第 1 章 - 開啟未知世界 (The Last Late Late Show: Chapter 1 — Launching An Unknown)
Uploaded: 2025-06-17T15:47:56.000Z
Duration: 17 min 15 s

你什麼時候接手詹姆斯的節目？

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Oh unlucky We are very excited this morning for the next step in the evolution of late-night comedy James Corden takes a stage on Monday He's a new host of the late-late show right here on CBS I saw some announcement that a guy named James Corden was gonna be taking over the late-late show And so I googled James Corden the news had gotten out that like they had picked a new host and it was James Corden And I was like, I don't know like I literally it's like literally my job to know who everyone is and I had never heard of James Corden I was Puzzled like everyone else because he had no talk show background And then I saw that he was like an accomplished guy who had done a lot of stuff in the UK and they'd won a Tony On Broadway and it's kind of subversive because we all get to learn about him Here in the States on on the stage.

我們今早非常興奮 深夜喜劇的下一步 詹姆斯-柯登將於週一登臺 他是CBS電視臺深夜節目的新主持人 我看到有消息說 詹姆斯-柯登將接手深夜節目我不知道 我的工作就是知道每個人是誰 我從來沒聽說過詹姆斯-科登 我和其他人一樣感到困惑 因為他沒有脫口秀的背景 然後我看到他是個很有成就的人 他在英國做了很多事情 還在百老匯得過託尼獎 這有點顛覆 因為我們都能在美國的舞臺上了解他

However shocked you are that I am doing this job You will never be as shocked as I am It was puzzling but it was also kind of exciting because it was he was somebody who didn't come with any Baggage or background or a team nobody knew what to expect I think that James being unknown helped us because I think that for Americans He was a new discovery and when it gets to be your new discovery You're sort of root for him And so I think that he became a lot of people's new discovery James Corden went into CBS To pitch an idea for a sitcom.

無論你對我做這份工作有多震驚，你都不會像我一樣震驚。這很令人費解，但也有點令人興奮，因為他是一個沒有任何包袱、背景或團隊的人，沒有人知道會發生什麼。我認為詹姆斯的未知幫助了我們，因為我認為對美國人來說，他是一個新發現，當他成為你的新發現時，你就會為他紮根。

Well instead he walked out with a late-night talk show James calls me I was like, how did the meeting go to CBS?

相反，他帶著一個深夜脫口秀節目走了出來 詹姆斯打電話給我，我當時想，哥倫比亞廣播公司的會議進行得怎麼樣了？

He said well, I don't think we're gonna do the sitcom there But they did offer me the late-night show and I was like, what are you talking about?

他說，我不認為我們會在那裡做情景喜劇 但他們確實給了我深夜節目的機會 我當時想，你在說什麼？

He said well Letterman's retired and you know, the boss is there really liked one-man two-governors the show I was in so he sort of kind of offered me the late-late show and I said I think it would be the worst thing you could ever do for your career and Ben said stick to your guns Don't do it doesn't matter what they offer.

他說，萊特曼退休了，老闆很喜歡我演的 "一人雙督 "節目，所以他想讓我做晚間節目，我說我覺得這對你的職業生涯來說是最糟糕的事情，本說堅持你的想法，別做，不管他們提供什麼條件。

I was like you want to be a guest on a late-night show Why would you go as essentially an unknown to America and host your own late-night show?

我當時就想，你想成為深夜節目的嘉賓，為什麼要去美國做一個無名小卒，主持自己的深夜節目？

You're not Graham Norton Like what are you doing?

你又不是格雷厄姆-諾頓，你在幹什麼？

And I said to him what if we just see it as an opportunity to be Creative every day and he said but imagine if every day We had a blank piece of paper to create an hour of entertainment For whatever we wanted to do blank piece of paper on the number one network in America every single night And as we talked more he started to come around to the idea of it and I could see that The wheels just started to turn in his head because I suddenly realized well If you don't look at it as a late-night show If you didn't look at it as an interview program, you didn't look at it as talk and you looked at it as a variety Entertainment show suddenly James Corden made more sense then we were doing it I think like two weeks after that it leaked and a trending topic on Twitter was who the fuck is James Corden The first thing you'll have to learn to do is throw to a commercial break.

我對他說，如果我們把它當成一個機會 每天都有創意，他說，但想象一下，如果每天 我們都有一張白紙，可以創造一個小時的娛樂節目 無論我們想做什麼 每晚都可以在美國第一大電視網的白紙上如果你不把它看成一個訪談節目 你就會把它看成一個娛樂綜藝節目 突然間詹姆斯-科登就變得更有意義了 然後我們就開始做了 我想大概兩週之後 它就洩露出去了 推特上的熱門話題是 詹姆斯-科登到底是誰 你首先要學會做的就是切換到廣告時間

I Didn't know anything about what this show was gonna be I didn't know how it was gonna feel I didn't even know if it was a good idea I didn't know very much about American television so we were very aware James and I that we needed to find an executive producer to join us on this sort of journey because So much we we didn't know leaving the tonight show to come start a brand new show on CBS at 1230 With a host no one in America for the most part.

我不知道這個節目會是什麼樣子 我不知道會是什麼感覺 我甚至不知道這是不是個好主意 我對美國電視不甚瞭解 所以我們很清楚 詹姆斯和我需要找一個執行製片人 加入我們的旅程

I'd heard of was an enormous leap of faith I think that we all came out here and Rented cars and rented houses and rented furniture because we thought they'd be back in London I'd be back in New York in about six months or so I fully understand that this show probably won't go on for more than a year I could see no path to success that there is a litany of people who've come from Britain to do a show in America It hasn't worked.

我聽說這是一個巨大的信念飛躍，我想我們都來到了這裡，租車、租房、租傢俱，因為我們以為他們會回到倫敦，我會在大約六個月左右回到紐約，我完全理解這個節目可能不會持續超過一年，我看不到成功的道路，有一連串的人從英國來到美國做節目，但都沒有成功。

There's no shame in it and you go back home and that's that's just what happens We had nothing to lose.

We were like, well if we fail then we go back home And at least we've had an amazing experience in Los Angeles and we met a few famous people But if we succeed then the world's our oyster and with that mentality, there was no there was nothing conservative about our approach Our first days we sort of got blasted out of a cannon in the sense that we got here in January and the show was going on television in March and We're starting with an empty studio and no staff and we had a lot a lot a lot of work to do and it was very Stressful.

我們當時想，如果我們失敗了，那我們就回家，至少我們在洛杉磯有了一段奇妙的經歷，我們還認識了一些名人，但如果我們成功了，世界就是我們的了，抱著這樣的心態，我們的做法一點也不保守。我們來這裡的第一天，就像被大炮轟出來一樣，我們是 1 月份來的，節目 3 月份就要上電視了，我們一開始只有一個空工作室，沒有工作人員，我們有很多很多工作要做，壓力非常大。

We needed to employ 70 80 people We needed to work out what the bits were.

We needed to get a band together We needed to decide the logo.

我們需要組建一個樂隊，我們需要確定徽標。

We needed to decide how we got an audience every night.

我們需要決定怎樣才能每晚都有觀眾。

All we really had was a shared emotional language about the show We knew what we wanted to feel like we wanted to be joyful We wanted to be sort of a bright end of the day.

我們所擁有的只是對節目的共同情感語言，我們知道我們想要的感覺是什麼，我們想要歡樂，我們想要成為一天的光明結尾。

We had to come at it Roaring we had to come at it fighting.

我們必須咆哮，我們必須戰鬥。

We had to come at it guns blazing This wasn't a quiet show that was just gonna creep onto your television once you were falling asleep This had to be a party every night and following a talk show.

我們必須火力全開，這不是一個安靜的節目，不會在你睡著後悄悄出現在你的電視上。

We couldn't just be a talk show We had to be a variety entertainment show that was loud and brash and exciting and gripped people scenes scene stealers.

我們不能只是一檔脫口秀節目，我們必須成為一檔喧鬧、粗野、令人興奮的綜藝娛樂節目，吸引人們的眼球。

Take one Mr. Reggie Watts Reggie has become an absolute essential element of the quirkiness of fun and joy and entertainment value of this show He is both musically brilliant and incredibly funny.

就拿雷吉-沃茨先生來說，雷吉絕對是本劇奇趣、歡樂和娛樂價值的重要元素。

Honestly, one of the one of the greatest things that could have ever happened to the show Such a charismatic unifying source of joy and energy a Type of danger factor that he brings to the show when you ask a question and you really don't know what he's gonna say Or how much attention he's paying yeah, that's you Reggie.

老實說，他是這個節目最偉大的人物之一 他是一個充滿魅力的歡樂和能量的統一源泉 他給節目帶來了一種危險的因素，當你問一個問題的時候，你真的不知道他會說什麼，或者他有多關注你，是的，這就是你，雷吉。

He's gonna sing about And especially as as kind as he is and as much Comedy cred as he brought to a show like this You were given a choice to remove your pancreas permanently or to develop a new line of railroad products Which would you choose?

他要唱的，尤其是像他這樣善良的人，以及他為這樣的演出帶來的喜劇魅力。 如果讓你選擇永久切除胰腺，或者開發新的鐵路產品系列，你會選擇哪個？

Just seemed like a really exciting different flavor that you bring to that aspect of of the show Can you tell us what's coming up in the next two weeks?

你能告訴我們接下來兩週有什麼節目嗎？

Yes Our band is so special I mean they came together in a way as if they've been playing together for 30 years I wanted to put together a band that was Diverse and very different than any of the other bands that were on late night.

是的，我們的樂隊非常特別，我的意思是，他們走到一起的方式就像他們已經在一起演奏了 30 年一樣。我想組建一支多元化的樂隊，與深夜節目中的其他樂隊截然不同。

I wanted it to be a Muppet band We replaced ourselves with oscillating inflatable tube people.

我希望它是一個布偶樂隊，我們用可擺動的充氣管人代替了自己。

We definitely of all of the late show bands I think achieved the highest percentage of Muppet energy possible But I didn't want the band to rehearse I wanted it to mainly improvise a lot of the songs that happened you may never hear him again because that was just that Night's music.

但我不希望樂隊排練，我希望樂隊以即興表演為主，很多歌你可能再也聽不到了，因為那只是那晚的音樂。

I think it's one of the greatest bands In television history.

我認為這是電視史上最偉大的樂隊之一。

I can't say enough great things about the band.

我對這支樂隊的讚譽不勝枚舉。

I Remember just saying to Ben like just build me a playground Just build me somewhere where I can play every day.

我記得我對本說，給我建個遊樂場吧，給我建個每天都能玩的地方。

What does everybody think of the sets you like?

大家覺得你喜歡的套裝怎麼樣？

Sets often reflect the personality of the host and James and I at the time had talked about it being a show that was much More welcoming than other shows normally when you do talk shows you sort of you camera audience and we were like I wonder if we could put audience between the camera and us our set is like no other set our set was always designed To be shot 360 so everywhere you look you can shoot and we have shot Every corner and every nook and cranny of the set the idea that you could be anywhere in this studio And you could shoot anywhere, and it's gonna look good.

我們的佈景與其他佈景不同 我們的佈景是360度全方位拍攝的 所以你看到的任何地方都可以拍攝 我們拍攝了佈景的每一個角落和犄角旮旯

It's not anything that I had experienced before With a bar in our sets what could possibly go wrong when we designed the set the desk and couch had to be decided Those are some of the biggest late-night staples is what is your couch?

這是我以前沒有經歷過的，我們的佈景裡有一個酒吧，我們設計佈景時，桌子和沙發必須決定好，這些都是深夜裡最重要的東西，你的沙發是什麼？

And what is your desk look like there is sort of like a time-honored tradition of the desk being on the far, right?

你的辦公桌是什麼樣子的？辦公桌在遠處，這是歷史悠久的傳統，對嗎？

The desk was originally set up like a traditional talk show But the move to change it and flop it was made from necessity.

該辦公桌最初的設置與傳統的脫口秀節目類似，但改變和翻轉它的舉動是出於無奈。

We didn't want to break any rules I didn't even know we were breaking rules We got there and we walked the chairman of entertainment through the show and he was like wow that's very different You're gonna have the host on facing this side rather than that side And I was like different to what they were like well all late-night shows.

我們不想破壞任何規則，我甚至不知道我們在破壞規則，我們到了那裡，我們帶著娛樂主席看了節目，他說哇，這很不一樣，你要讓主持人面向這邊，而不是那邊。

It's better this way like I I didn't understand anything.

這樣更好，就像我什麼都不懂一樣。

我必須說，我有點被它嚇到了。

I'm thrown By this I'm thrown by it's on the other side where you know where we're used to having them in America One of the things that we thought about was well Maybe we bring the guests out at the same time which was something obviously we were Aware of because it happens on a lot of English talk shows and so that created the need for a couch that could accommodate Three people so I have like really vivid memories of sitting outside on the loading dock with it like a couch designer We sort of figured out the exact curve and then built the couch that's been there for eight years Should we meet our first ever guests on the new late night show?

我們考慮的一個問題是 也許我們可以把嘉賓同時請出來 這一點我們很清楚 因為很多英國脫口秀都是這樣的所以我們需要一個能容納三個人的沙發 我對坐在外面裝卸區的情景記憶猶新 就像一個沙發設計師 我們想出了準確的曲線 然後做了這個沙發 它在那裡已經八年了

Not only did I not know who James Corden is but literally nobody else did either so challenge number one was like Telling people and like showing people who he was so we would call and we would try and beg people to come on the show But they'd always say the same thing They'd say let's see how the show goes call us back three weeks into the show and we'll let you know But what I also realized was we didn't have time to wait and see if we would be a hit because if we didn't get Big stars on the show then we weren't gonna be a hit and we would be off air by the third week that they were Offering their guests to come on.

不僅我不知道詹姆斯-科登是誰 其他人也都不知道 所以第一大挑戰就是告訴大家 讓大家知道他是誰 所以我們會打電話求人上節目但我也意識到，我們沒有時間等著看我們是否會火 因為如果我們沒有請到大明星上節目 那我們就不會火 我們就會在他們邀請嘉賓上節目的第三週停播

It was a challenge It was a challenge you'd call people and say, you know, James Gordon Tony award-winning actor from England You know and try to put him in context.

這是一個挑戰，你會打電話給別人，說詹姆斯-戈登是英國的託尼獎得主，然後試著把他和背景聯繫起來。

I think it was far tougher than I even know I think a lot of stuff was hidden from me because I think if I'd have known how few guests were committing to the show I'd have probably had some kind of breakdown.

我想這比我自己知道的要艱難得多，我想很多事情都瞞著我，因為我想如果我知道有多少嘉賓會參與這個節目，我可能會崩潰。

It was a really stressful time Once we did a few shows and publicists were here and word got out that it was a great place to come It made our jobs easier there's like an element of like late-night talk show that was always like a little off-putting a little Deprecating and James was so the opposite of that like he was so warm and he wanted you to feel so good about yourself Thank you for being my first guest.

當我們做了幾場演出，公關人員也來了 這裡是個好地方的消息傳開後，我們的工作就輕鬆多了 像深夜脫口秀這樣的節目，總是讓人有點反感 有點自嘲，而詹姆斯恰恰相反，他非常熱情，他希望你能對自己感覺很好 謝謝你成為我的第一位嘉賓

You don't want to stay in the safety of the desk No, I want to be here with you.

你不想呆在安全的辦公桌裡，不，我想和你在一起。

When do you ever have a chat with people when you'd be stuck behind there?

當你被困在後面的時候，你什麼時候和別人聊過天？

We are indebted to Tom Hanks and Mila Kunis to be on having been on that first show.

湯姆-漢克斯（Tom Hanks）和米拉-庫妮絲（Mila Kunis）參加了第一場演出，我們對此深表感謝。

湯姆-漢克斯先生，這是詹姆斯的主意。

一旦我們知道我們有湯姆-漢克斯。

And he's like, well, let's recreate his entire film career.

他想，那我們就重現他的整個電影生涯吧。

I was like, yeah, I can do that He came in a day early and rehearsed it and it just clicked like it was just amazing to see them together You've got a friend in me To see that whole sketch perform live in front of an audience It was unreal Tom Hanks's roll call was like the biggest thing on the Internet the following day It basically laid out the groundwork for like every roll call we've done since then so I wake up this morning I'm very nervous.

我當時想，是的，我能做到，他提前一天來排練，就這樣一拍即合，看到他們在一起真是太棒了，你是我的朋友，看到整個小品在觀眾面前現場表演，真是不真實，湯姆-漢克斯的點名就像是第二天互聯網上最熱門的事情，基本上為我們之後的每一次點名奠定了基礎，所以今天早上醒來，我非常緊張。

You know, it's a big day for me We realized very early that if we didn't have an impactful first week We weren't gonna have a first month the first night.

你知道，今天對我來說是個重要的日子，我們很早就意識到，如果我們沒有一個有影響力的第一週，我們就不會有第一個月的第一個晚上。

I mean, I think we all had a lot of nerves We had a really ambitious day what we wanted to put in that show we have one night to get it right and that first episode was everything and Everything about that first episode was crafted and curated within a tea of itself So they spent every single second that they possibly could and delivered as late as they possibly could to make it look right to their Credit that first show looked really good if that 42 minutes Haven't been as crafted as it was none of this exists today.

我的意思是，我認為我們都很緊張 我們有一個非常雄心勃勃的一天 我們想要把什麼放在節目中 我們有一個晚上的時間來把它做好 第一集是一切 第一集的所有內容都是精心製作和策劃的 茶本身。

Well, I guess we can't put it off any longer Let's do this.

好吧，我想我們不能再拖了，就這麼辦吧。

I'm James Corden and this this is the late late show roll the title I've been weirdest premier night ever.

我是詹姆斯-柯登（James Corden），這裡是《深夜秀》（late late show），標題是 "我是史上最詭異的首播之夜"（I've been weirdest premier night ever）。

I got an email from Bono and he said hey, man It's my wife's birthday on Monday night.

我收到波諾的郵件，他說，嘿，夥計，週一晚上是我妻子的生日。

We're having just a small dinner up at Malibu.

我們只是在馬里布吃個小晚餐。

I'd love you to come I was like, okay So the show was going out LA time at like 930 and I just made a decision not to look at anything Not to read anything not to not to engage with anything at all to finish the show pick up Jules and we drive up to Malibu and go into this like private dining room this sushi restaurant and Bono's there and Charlize Theron's there Sean Penn I think was there And Colin Farrell was definitely there at about 10 past 10, I needed the bathroom Just remember taking out my phone and there was just a message from Ben They said I know you're not gonna go and look at Twitter or anything.

我當時想，好吧，節目要播出了 洛杉磯時間大概9點30分 我做了個決定，不看任何東西 不讀任何東西 不參與任何事情，只為看完節目 接上朱爾斯，我們開車去馬里布我需要上廁所 記得當時我拿出手機 有一條本的簡訊 他們說我知道你不會去看推特什麼的

And but if you wanted to you could People are absolutely loving this show and I just put my phone back in my pocket Walked back to the restaurant and I was like Life is really changing at a rate.

我剛把手機放回口袋，走回餐廳，我就覺得生活真是日新月異。

They're just making me uncomfortable And I remember Bono said he was like, how's the show?

他們讓我很不舒服 我記得波諾說過，演出怎麼樣？

Yeah, just he just finished like Well, and I was like, I don't know but I think it's gonna okay We've sat outside Stars in the oceans there and he put his arm around me and he said He said, you know, it gets a bad rap this place There are more creative people per square foot in this city than anywhere on earth.

是啊，他剛說完，我就說，我不知道，但我覺得會好的 我們坐在外面，星星在海洋裡 他摟著我，他說，你知道，這個地方被說得很差 這個城市每平方英尺的創意人比地球上任何地方都多

And he said in this moment in your life It is absolutely where you should be and he said you've got to soak it all up You're a grab every single bit of it.

他說，在你生命中的這一刻，你絕對應該在這裡，他說，你要沉浸其中，抓住每一點。

He said you're in for a wild ride And I was like, thanks Bono.

他說，你會有一段狂野的旅程，我當時想，謝謝波諾。

I Because that night I knew we were gonna be okay I knew that people had appreciated James for the talent He was I knew that people were responding well to the new style of stuff that we were trying to make With this modern late-night show and I also knew that now the first episode had gone Well that set us up to do well for the rest of the series Think right from the beginning of the show Everybody was excited about how it felt how it looked James as a performer Ben and then Rob as producers The type of comedy that we were doing everything felt exciting.

因為那晚我知道我們會做得很好 我知道人們欣賞詹姆斯的才華 我知道人們對我們嘗試製作的現代深夜節目的新風格反響很好 我也知道現在第一集已經播出了 這為我們接下來的系列做了很好的鋪墊 想想從節目一開始 大家都很興奮 它的感覺 它的樣子 詹姆斯作為表演者 本和羅伯作為製作人

Truly knock him out the second day of work Episode one had gone out the night before and I come into the office and I parked my car and there is this unbelievably Gorgeous sports car parked right next to me and I'm thinking I know whose car that is I get to my office and my assistants trying to tell me something, but I just walked straight I go Oh, you know follow me in, you know talk with me and I realized as I walked through my office She was trying to tell me that Jay Leno was sitting on my couch and Jay Leno had just turned up uninvited And he just had bought a bottle of champagne.

第二天上班的時候，我把車停在辦公室裡，一輛華麗得令人難以置信的跑車就停在我旁邊，我在想，我知道那是誰的車，我來到我的辦公室，我的助理想告訴我什麼、我就徑直走了過去，跟我進去，跟我談談，當我走過我的辦公室時，我意識到，她是想告訴我，傑-雷諾正坐在我的沙發上，傑-雷諾剛剛不請自來，還買了一瓶香檳。

He said hey man great premiere really enjoyed it He did a terrific job great show great show and he left and I remember he came in and he sat down and he said You're gonna be fine.

他說，嘿，夥計，很棒的首映式，真的很喜歡，他做得非常棒，很棒的表演，很棒的表演，然後他就走了，我記得他進來坐下，他說，你會沒事的。

He said you're gonna be absolutely fine I think he said something like only 3,000 more to go or something I remember being like wait, we got to do it again today and three months This show will be mine The show had its foot on the gas from day one and it has never let up on it we wanted our first couple weeks of shows to be very ambitious and then we sort of got addicted to That pace a lot of the big elements that we have were invented in that first week roll call show one Still a bit that we do today carpool show two still a bit that we do today cross all the musical Still a bit we do today and usually late night You try to have one thing like a top ten or you try to have a thank-you notes or something like that We were out in the first week with three major Things that the show has carried on for the last eight years in the next week We shot a bit with Beckham that went viral and then we did the house show Which is probably one of if not the biggest risk we've taken it flew out the tracks so quickly It's pretty it was pretty and we shot that week one But it aired week two and that's probably the moment where I was like whatever else we're gonna do if we do things like this If this is in the DNA of the show from the beginning, we're gonna have so much fun I remember thinking that week this show is ambitious This show has ideas and has a drive that is going to just change

他說你絕對會沒事的 我記得他說過只剩 3,000 場了之類的話 我記得我當時想等等我記得我當時想，等等，我們今天得再做一次 三個月後，這個節目就是我的了 節目從第一天開始就踩著油門，從未放鬆過我們在第一週播出了三個主要的節目 在第二週，我們和貝克漢姆一起拍攝了一個節目，引起了熱議，然後我們做了家庭秀，這可能是我們冒過的最大的風險之一，它飛出了軌道，非常快，非常漂亮，我們在第一週拍攝了這個節目，但在第二週播出了、我記得那周我在想，這個節目很有野心 這個節目有想法，有動力，它將改變一切