And I'm Lance.

我是蘭斯

And we made the decision to go back to school today.

我們決定今天就回學校。

Yes, we are at the Henry Fawcett Primary School.

是的，我們在亨利福塞特小學。

With The Diana Award, supported by Nationwide Building Society.

戴安娜獎，由全國範圍內的建築協會支持。

And we're about to go and answer some questions.

我們接下來要回答一些問題。

From some Key Stage 2 students here.

來自這裡的一些第二階段學生。

So who happen to be Anti-Bullying Pro Ambassadors.

那麼，誰恰好是反欺凌親善大使呢？

So these are like some seriously bright kids.

這些孩子都很聰明。

Smart kids.

聰明的孩子

Special kids.

特殊的孩子們

So.

那麼

And they're gonna have some questions.

他們會問一些問題

I have no idea what we're gonna be asked.

我不知道我們會被問到什麼。

Probably no filter.

可能沒有過濾器。

This is gonna be a challenge.

這將是一個挑戰。

And I I I'm a little concerned.

我有點擔心。

It's gonna be fun.

會很有趣的

So should we go in and let's go.

那我們要不要進去看看？

Let's hope.

但願如此。

Here we go.

開始了

Hello.

你好

Hi Tom and Lance.

嗨，湯姆和蘭斯。

How are you all?

你們都好嗎？

I'm Tom.

我是湯姆

And I'm Lance.

我是蘭斯

I dive, is what I do.

我潛水，這就是我的工作。

Well used to do.

習慣了。

Still kind of do, but mainly I knit now.

現在還有點，但主要是編織。

Has anybody ever tried knitting?

有人嘗試過編織嗎？

You've tried knitting?

你嘗試過編織嗎？

Yeah?

是嗎？

This is one of the things I've knit.

這是我編織的東西之一。

Do you have any pets?

您有寵物嗎？

We have one fish and two frogs.

我們有一條魚和兩隻青蛙。

Do you have the favorite ice cream flavor?

你有最喜歡的冰淇淋口味嗎？

Vanilla ice cream with chocolate chips.

香草冰淇淋配巧克力脆片

Who's the most acrobatic out of you guys?

你們當中誰最會玩雜技？

Me.

我

Although I fall down in the most spectacular fashion.

雖然我摔的比較好看。

Who's the best cook?

誰的廚藝最好？

I'll be in trouble if I say anything other than he is, but the truth is I am.

如果我沒有說他，我會有麻煩，但其實是我。

How did you guys meet each other?

你們是怎麼認識的？

We met actually in Los Angeles.

我們是在洛杉磯認識的。

Back in 2013.

2013 年。

When did you know you were gay?

你什麼時候知道自己是同志的？

I mean, I feel like I've known that I was different for for as long as I can remember from when I was like my earliest memories.

從我懂事起，我就知道自己與眾不同。

And as I got older, I started to figure out that actually it what I was feeling wasn't the same as everyone else in my class.

隨著年齡的增長，我開始發現，其實我的感受和班裡其他人並不一樣。

And then I just gradually got to a point where I felt comfortable with who I was, I met Lance and I came out when I was 19 years old.

後來，我逐漸適應了自己的身份，遇到了蘭斯，並在 19 歲那年出櫃。

Do you get any hate for being gay?

你會因為自己是同志而遭到討厭嗎？

You know, that's a very good question.

這是一個非常好的問題。

When I first came out, it was actually lots of people were really, really supportive and sent lots of loving messages.

我第一次出櫃時，很多人都非常非常支持我，給我發了很多愛。

But when I was at school, I was actually bullied for being a diver.

但在學校的時候，我居然因為是潛水選手而受到欺負。

People would call me names, take the mick out of what I would wear in my diving competitions and it was something that I really, really struggled with.

人們會罵我，嘲笑我在跳水比賽中的穿著，這讓我非常非常難受。

I hear that lots of you are like anti-bullying ambassadors, is that right?

我聽說你們很多人都是反欺凌大使，是嗎？

Are you guys ambassadors?

你們是大使嗎？

Really?

真的嗎？

Yeah, amazing.

是啊，太神奇了。

Which is absolutely amazing.

這超棒的。

And to be able to have people in school in school that you can go and talk to and people that you're able to go and confide in is really important.

能夠在學校裡有可以傾訴的人，有可以傾訴的對象真的很重要。

So what you're doing is going to really help and change so many people's lives.

是以，你所做的一切將真正幫助和改變許多人的生活。

Um, how do you deal with bullying?

你如何應對欺凌？

It was really hard when I was little and I would sometimes just go away by myself and and feel sad.

在我小的時候，這真的很難，我有時會獨自一個人，感到很傷心。

It's also really good to have someone that you can talk to.

有一個可以傾訴的人也非常好。

Whether that be one of someone from an anti-bullying ambassador or if it's someone that you can confide in whether it's a teacher or a parent or a friend.

無論是反欺凌大使，還是你可以傾訴的人，無論是老師、家長還是朋友。

I think it's really important to not bottle things up and being able to speak to someone.

我認為，不要把事情悶在心裡，能夠與人傾訴真的很重要。

When was the last time you cried?

你上次哭是什麼時候？

Well my mom taught me that when you cry, it's actually you getting better, it's a sign that inside your heart and your mind is getting stronger and better.

我媽媽教我，當你哭泣的時候，其實是你在變好，是你的內心和思想變得更強大、更美好的標誌。

And so some people think it's a sign of weakness, but that's they're actually wrong.

有些人認為這是軟弱的表現，其實他們錯了。

What are your hopes and ambitions for Robbie?

你對你的兒子羅比有什麼希望和抱負？

Our son is four years old now and it's just been like this crazy dream come true.

我們的兒子已經四歲了，這簡直不可思議。

Does anybody here know any other kids who have like two moms or two dads or?

這裡有誰認識其他有兩個媽媽或兩個爸爸的孩子嗎？

Yeah?

是嗎？

You do.

你會看到的

All right, cool.

好吧，酷。

The main thing we want is for him to be happy.

我們最希望的是他能快樂。

I think the one thing I really wanted for him is to him to be curious and to ask questions.

我希望他對事物充滿好奇心，並且敢於提問。

And I think those two things are related because even if you're getting bullied, instead of maybe reacting with anger, you sort of ask yourself, you take the time to be curious and go, I wonder what's going on in that person's world that they felt they had to say or do that.

我認為這和霸凌有，因為如果你被欺負了，你先不生氣，而是好奇對方的世界裡到底發生了什麼，以至於他們必須說或做傷害人的事。

Then it's really hard to hate them and it's really hard to be mad at them.

這樣就很難討厭他們，也很難對他們發火。

That would be our our only hope and dream for him, whatever he wants to do for a living or do with his life is his decision.

這是我們對他唯一的期待，至於他想做什麼，他自己決定。

Those are his decisions.

他自己的決定。

Do you have any swimming tips?

您有什麼游泳祕訣嗎？

To be honest, he actually can't swim very well.

老實說，他其實不太會游泳。

It's true.

這是真的。

He just jumps in the water and he tries his hardest to get to the side.

他跳進水裡，拼命往邊上游。

It's about just going as often as you can to get used to it as much as possible and, you know, keep working hard.

要儘可能適應，要繼續努力。

Do you both like wearing Speedo pants?

你們都喜歡穿 Speedo 褲子嗎？

I can't say they're the most comfortable things, but they are very practical for diving.

我不能說它們是最舒服的東西，但對於潛水來說，它們非常實用。

Thank you for everything that you guys are doing.

感謝你們所做的一切。

I wish I had an anti-bullying ambassador when I was in school, it would have made my days so much better.

我真希望在我上學的時候就有一個反霸凌大使，那會讓我的日子好過很多。

So thank you guys, know that every time you just listen, you're really, really helping.

謝謝你們，你們的每一次傾聽，都是對我們的真正幫助。

Thank you.

謝謝。

That's a wrap.

就這樣吧。