This is like the biggest piece of jade I've ever seen.

這是我見過的最大的一塊玉。

Makes me never want to go home.

讓我再也不想回家。

I love it.

我喜歡

I love Hualien.

我愛花蓮

You're saying you cannot find jade at Jade Mountain?

你是說在玉山找不到玉石？

No.

不

You cannot find jade at Jade Mountain.

玉山無玉。

So is this illegal?

那麼，這樣做違法嗎？

Today's guest, yeah, honestly, I don't really know how to introduce today's guest.

今天的嘉賓，說實話，我真不知道該怎麼介紹。

And I think that you will understand why in just a few minutes.

我想，只要幾分鐘，你們就會明白其中的原因。

Hello, I'm Jimmy.

你好，我是吉米

And my now name is the Taiwan Rock Guy.

我現在的名字叫 "臺灣搖滾男"。

I'm from the USA.

我來自美國。

I'm 29.

我 29 歲。

And for now, I just graduated from grad school in Hualien at Donghua University,

現在，我剛從花蓮的東華大學研究生院畢業、

National Donghua University.

國立東華大學。

I just started making videos.

我剛開始製作視頻。

So I just started making YouTube videos

所以我就開始製作 YouTube 視頻

Yeah, I just want to point out, like, we're not talking about the music rock.

是的，我只是想指出，我們談論的不是音樂搖滾。

We're talking about, like, the rock rock.

我們說的是搖滾樂。

I've been learning Chinese and geology maybe since I was, like, 13 years old.

我大概從 13 歲開始學習中文和地質學。

So why I'm here in Taiwan is that all of my experiences here have been mostly revolved around these beautiful natural landscapes.

所以我為什麼來臺灣，是因為我在這裡的所有經歷大多都是圍繞著這些美麗的自然景觀展開的。

Like, I've lived in Taitung, and I've lived in Penghu, which are two very famous Taiwan spots for awesome landscapes.

比如，我在臺東住過，在澎湖住過，這兩個地方都是臺灣非常著名的風景名勝。

Penghu's got the cool basalts, the big columns and stuff.

澎湖有很酷的玄武岩、大柱子之類的東西。

And Taitung's got the mountains right by the ocean.

臺東的山就在海邊。

You're in this beautiful wedge of flatland between just these titans, these beasts, like a huge mountain range, and the rest of the ocean there.

你在這塊美麗的楔形平地上，在這些巨獸之間，就像一座巨大的山脈，還有海洋的其他部分。

When I went to college, I became one of my majors and also a dual major.

上大學後，我成了我的專業之一，也是雙專業。

I went to college in the USA.

我在美國上的大學。

I'm a dual major with geology and Chinese.

我主修地質學和中文。

And my professor was from Taiwan.

我的教授來自臺灣。

And so I got to do a exchange program at Donghai University in Taichung for one semester.

於是，我到臺中的東海大學參加了一個學期的交流項目。

And that's all I really needed to be like, OK,

這就是我真正需要的，就像 "好吧"、

I don't really want to be anywhere else.

我真的不想去別的地方。

So when I graduated from college,

所以當我大學畢業時

I found any way I could.

我想盡一切辦法。

And so I found teaching English first.

於是，我首先找到了英語教學。

And then from 2021 to now, I have just been here now.

從 2021 年到現在，我一直在這裡。

I can teach English, right?

我可以教英語，對嗎？

But I want to teach science.

但我想教科學。

So having that opportunity in Penghu pushed me to environmental education and pushed me to Hualien, a place where

是以，在澎湖有這樣的機會，把我推向了環境教育，把我推向了花蓮這個地方。

I hadn't lived before.

我以前從未生活過。

But I'd visited Taroko once, and that's all I needed.

但我去過太魯閣一次，這就足夠了。

Yeah, that must be like a rock lover's Mecca.

是啊，那一定是搖滾愛好者的麥加聖地。

Yeah, it's amazing.

是啊，太神奇了。

It's so crazy.

太瘋狂了

We're going to get into the rocks and all of that later.

我們稍後將討論岩石和所有這些問題。

Like, don't worry.

別擔心

We're going to talk about this.

我們要談談這個問題。

I have lived in Taipei for 14 years.

我在臺北生活了 14 年。

What would you say is the biggest difference between Taidong, Penghu, and Hualien for a foreigner who maybe wants to explore life outside of Taipei?

對於想要探索臺北以外生活的外國人來說，您認為臺東、澎湖和花蓮之間最大的不同是什麼？

First thing is the sky.

首先是天空。

Some nights in Taipei, even though it's completely pitch black in the middle of the night, you still see that city aura in the air.

在臺北的一些夜晚，即使半夜漆黑一片，你仍然能看到空氣中瀰漫著城市的氣息。

It never gets pitch black in Taipei.

臺北永遠不會漆黑一片。

There's 7-Eleven signs everywhere, pink cabs.

到處都是 7-Eleven 的招牌和粉紅色的計程車。

If you want to see just pure empty sky, just pure dark sky, if you want to get a good look at the stars, all these places, these three places are the places to go.

如果你想看到純粹的空曠天空，純粹的黑暗天空，如果你想好好看看星星，所有這些地方，這三個地方都是你要去的地方。

The big thing is that you've got to have your scooter license.

最重要的是，你必須持有滑板車駕照。

Both, all three of these places are not super accessible for public transit.

這三個地方的公共交通都不是很方便。

The streets are pretty much dead empty at like 9, 30, 10 PM.

晚上 9 點、30 點或 10 點的時候，街上幾乎都是空蕩蕩的。

All these three places I've talked about, you have a way closer connection to nature.

我所說的這三個地方，都能讓你與大自然有更緊密的聯繫。

And it's right in front of you.

它就在你面前。

I mean, even in Taipei, you don't need to go too far to be in nature.

我的意思是，即使是在臺北，你也不需要走得太遠就能融入大自然。

And then, you know, Hualien.

然後是花蓮。

Hualien is, I mean, Taidong's got good rocks, but Hualien's got the best rocks.

花蓮，我是說，臺東的石頭不錯，但花蓮的石頭最好。

Hualien's, if you want to see the best rocks ever, you've got to go to Hualien.

花蓮的，如果你想看最美的石頭，你一定要去花蓮。

That's the biggest thing.

這才是最重要的。

And that's why I don't really want to go anywhere else, is that I don't want to really live anywhere else.

這就是我不想去其他地方的原因，因為我不想在其他地方生活。

Minnesota, going back to what you're saying, the biggest difference for me and why I love Taiwan so much is every day I go out my door in Hualien and I see the Central Mountain Range.

明尼蘇達州，回到你所說的，對我來說最大的不同，也是我如此熱愛臺灣的原因，就是每天我走出花蓮的家門，就能看到中央山脈。

Drive maybe 15 minutes north, like in between,

向北行駛大約 15 分鐘，就像在兩者之間、

I live in Shoufeng, which is by the university,

我住在壽豐，就在大學旁邊、

Donghua University.

東華大學。

I look to my east and I see the ocean, right?

我向東望去，看到了大海，對嗎？

Minnesota's got a lot of lakes, but it's just so flat.

明尼蘇達州湖泊眾多，但地勢平坦。

And the landscape just blows my mind when I'm here.

當我在這裡時，這裡的風景讓我大開眼界。

And that it's like, every single time I look at this landscape, the beauty of Taiwan's mountains, the beauty of Taiwan's oceans, and it's all just condensed on this eastern area.

就好像，每一次我看到這樣的風景，臺灣的山之美、臺灣的海之美，都濃縮在這塊東部的土地上。

I hate to say this on camera, but it makes me never want to go home.

我不想在鏡頭前說這些，但這讓我再也不想回家了。

I love it.

我喜歡

I love Hualien.

我愛花蓮

Like, it's just so pretty.

比如，它太漂亮了。

Of course, I miss my family, right?

當然，我想念我的家人，對嗎？

I miss my family a lot.

我非常想念我的家人。

I love my family, but I feel like an indescribable feeling when I look at the beauty of the mountains and the ocean in Hualien.

我愛我的家人，但看著花蓮的山海美景，我有一種難以言喻的感覺。

The views, like, pull me in.

這些景色，就像要把我拉進去一樣。

And then it's the people that make me want to stay.

然後是那些讓我願意留下來的人。

Like, the people are just so nice and everybody is so kind to you.

比如，這裡的人都很好，每個人都對你很親切。

Like, no matter what you're doing.

比如，不管你在做什麼。

Well, I don't think there's any other way to summarize this other than Taiwan rocks.

好吧，除了臺灣岩石，我想沒有其他方法可以概括了。

Taiwan does rock.

臺灣確實很震撼。

Taiwan rocks hard.

臺灣岩石堅硬

We're going to try to dig in a little bit more on what you're actually doing here in Taiwan.

我們將進一步瞭解你們在臺灣的實際工作情況。

I am promoting geology.

我在宣傳地質學。

I'm promoting Taiwan's geology in any way that I can.

我會盡我所能宣傳臺灣的地質。

In the future,

未來、

I hope to do that through giving tours and leading environmental education trips.

我希望通過參觀和帶領環境教育旅行來實現這一目標。

Primarily, I want to be a educator and promoter of the stunning landscape here in Taiwan, particularly Eastern Taiwan, Hualien and Taitung.

首先，我想成為臺灣，特別是臺灣東部、花蓮和臺東迷人風景的教育者和宣傳者。

And also, I would say entertainer because you have an Instagram account.

另外，我會說你是娛樂明星，因為你有一個 Instagram 賬戶。

You have a YouTube account, which is focused on rocks.

你有一個專注於岩石的 YouTube 賬戶。

Yes.

是的。

It does not sound interesting.

聽起來並不有趣。

It doesn't sound entertaining.

聽起來並不有趣。

Like, for someone who is like, you know, hated, like, geography and geology growing up.

比如，對於一個從小就討厭地理和地質學的人來說。

You didn't say that.

你可沒這麼說。

We didn't say that before.

我們以前可沒這麼說過。

But it is super entertaining and educational to watch your content.

但是，觀看您的內容具有超強的娛樂性和教育性。

Now, we can think of the story of the environment here.

現在，我們可以想想這裡的環境故事。

Okay.

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These basically describe a lot of the beauty of Taiwan.

這些基本描述了臺灣的許多美景。

So for one, the geology, basic geology, we know that there are three, three rock types.

首先，在地質學、基礎地質學方面，我們知道有三種岩石類型。

Igneous rocks, which are like, we can think probably they were the first rock.

我們可以認為，火成岩可能是最早的岩石。

These rocks formed from a melted magma or lava.

這些岩石由熔化的岩漿或熔岩形成。

This thing is from Green Island, Lüdao.

這東西來自綠島，呂島。

If you didn't know, Green Island and Lanyu are both volcanic islands.

如果你不知道，綠島和蘭嶼都是火山島。

And then there's also sedimentary rocks, right?

還有沉積岩，對嗎？

So they go up layer by layer.

是以，它們一層一層地上升。

Sedimentary rocks, sedimentary rocks,

沉積岩，沉積岩、

I think are the ones that are best at telling a story because sedimentary rocks, you can think about every single thing on this earth, like even mountains, not all mountains are gonna be so tall.

我認為沉積岩是最善於講述故事的岩石，因為沉積岩，你可以想想地球上的每一樣東西，比如即使是山，也不是所有的山都會那麼高。

Everything is being worn away by rain, wind, like everything is kind of breaking down and breaking into smaller and smaller pieces.

一切都在被風雨侵蝕，就像一切都在分解，分解成越來越小的碎片。

Like every mountain is gonna get broken down.

就像每座山都會被推倒一樣。

Those little bits of rock, which get broken down, get carried either by rivers, by landslides.

這些碎裂的小塊岩石會被河流或山體滑坡帶走。

They get carried into a place where they finally stop resting.

它們被帶到一個地方，終於停止了休息。

Imagine like a river is like the rock bus.

想象一下，河流就像岩石巴士。

So like these kind of can like take you back in time.

所以，這些東西能帶你回到過去。

And these are kind of like storybooks.

這些都有點像故事書。

I think sedimentary rocks are the best at telling stories.

我認為沉積岩最會講故事。

I don't know anything about rocks, but even I can see that this must be jade.

我不懂石頭，但連我自己都能看出這一定是玉。

Yes, this is jade.

是的，這是玉石。

This is the best, like this is what I think Taiwan is most famous for, are its metamorphic rocks.

這是最好的，就像這是我認為臺灣最著名的地方，是它的變質岩。

Metamorphic rocks are rocks that have been basically twice cooked, or rocks that have been squeezed and heated up, like put into an oven.

變質岩是基本上經過兩次烹飪的岩石，或者說是經過擠壓和加熱的岩石，就像放在烤箱裡一樣。

But imagine being put into a pressure cooker and like rebaked.

但是，想象一下被放進快鍋，壓力鍋重新烤制的情景。

It's like, imagine taking like a brownie and a cookie and you stuff that in a pressure cooker oven and you come out and you get metamorphic rocks.

這就好比，想象一下，把一塊布朗尼和一塊餅乾塞進快鍋，壓力鍋烤箱，出來後就是變質岩。

So these two things that already existed, right?

那麼，這兩樣東西已經存在了，對嗎？

And then they form new things.

然後它們形成新的東西。

So yes, so this is what Hualien is all about, is Taiwan jade, it's here in Hualien.

是的，這就是花蓮，這就是臺灣玉，這就是花蓮。

This is like the biggest piece of jade I've ever seen.

這是我見過的最大的一塊玉。

So you just found this on the streets of Hualien?

這是你在花蓮街頭撿到的？

Yes, not in the streets, up in the rivers.

是的，不是在街上，而是在河裡。

I found this in a river in Hualien, right in my, pretty much in my backyard.

這是我在花蓮的一條河裡發現的，就在我家後院。

I think Taiwan's most famous, most unique products of Taiwan is this jade right here, because it is not just super hard, super green, super pretty.

我認為臺灣最有名、最獨特的產品就是這裡的翡翠，因為它不僅超硬、超綠、超美。

It is also, geologically speaking, the youngest discovered jade on the planet.

從地質學角度看，它也是地球上發現的最年輕的玉石。

Like, so it's like, is this illegal?

比如，這樣做違法嗎？

Can you just go-

你能不能--

Do I have this in my hand right now?

我現在手裡有這個嗎？

Can you just like go up and just like take a piece of jade?

你能上去拿一塊玉嗎？

Let's get this straight here.

讓我們把話說清楚。

I'm not going up into the river with my hammer and with my ax and I'm carving at a wall, right?

我不會拿著錘子和斧頭到河裡去在牆上刻字吧？

No, I'm not doing that.

不，我不會那麼做。

All of this stuff was found in a riverbed.

所有這些東西都是在河床裡發現的。

This is for me, I'm not trying to sell this to anybody.

這是為我自己準備的，我並不想把它賣給任何人。

Even though a piece like this could be worth maybe like 4,000, 5,000 NTD.

儘管像這樣的作品可能價值 4000 或 5000 新臺幣。

But yeah, so you yourself, you, viewer at home, you can come to Taiwan, you can come to Hualien and find your own cute little piece of jade.

是的，所以你自己，你，在家的觀賞者，你可以來臺灣，你可以來花蓮，找到屬於你自己的可愛的小塊玉石。

What are the chances that you would like accidentally find jade?

你想意外發現玉石的機率有多大？

Like, is it like, do you need to know exactly where to look?

比如說，你需要知道具體該去哪裡找嗎？

Okay, so I can show you, and this is eventually going to be a published book, hopefully trying to turn this into my own rock guide.

好了，我可以向你展示，這最終會成為一本出版的書，希望能把它變成我自己的搖滾指南。

So where you would find jade is more south of Hualien, mostly rivers.

是以，玉石的產地多在花蓮以南，以河流為主。

How would you know that?

你怎麼知道？

But can you just walk in an area and like, this is most likely jade?

但你能走到一個地方就說，這很可能是玉石嗎？

Like from, without doing the research and like just being there, can you just like analyze and say, most likely you will find this type of rock here, but like a few kilometers over there might be another rock.

比如說，在沒有進行研究和親臨現場的情況下，你能不能分析說，很有可能你會在這裡找到這種岩石，但幾公里外的地方可能會有另一種岩石。

Yes, jade only exists in a few places in Hualien.

是的，花蓮只有少數幾個地方有玉石。

There's only these small enclaves of where jade is.

只有這些小飛地才有玉石。

Just in Hualien, so like West Coast, like Taipei.

只是在花蓮，所以像西海岸，像臺北。

No, you will not find jade there.

不，你在那裡找不到玉石。

Like something like this, where it's super dark green.

就像這樣，它是超級深綠色的。

This is kind of rare.

這有點罕見。

This is harder to find.

這個比較難找。

This took me, I went up the river many, many times and like hunted for jade until I found this thing.

這花了我的時間，我沿著河走了很多很多次，就像尋找玉石一樣，直到我找到了這個東西。

So this is not common.

是以，這種情況並不常見。

There's one question, like, I'm still like, you said that it was only like found in like Hualien.

有一個問題，我還在想，你說它只在花蓮發現過。

You're saying like, you cannot find jade at Jade Mountain.

你的意思是，在玉山找不到玉石。

No, you cannot find jade in Jade Mountain.

不，玉山找不到玉。

This is just like a tourist scam.

這簡直就是旅遊騙局。

Oh man.

哦，天哪

Is that what we're saying now?

我們現在是這麼說的嗎？

Oh man, I don't think I would ever say that.

哦，天哪，我想我永遠不會這麼說。

I mean, cause jade and its sense is beautiful, right?

我的意思是，因為玉及其感官是美麗的，對嗎？

Jade is beautiful and jade is valuable.

玉是美麗的，玉是珍貴的。

So you could say like, you could call Jade Mountain in the metaphorical sense, right?

所以你可以說，你可以把玉山稱為隱喻意義上的玉山，對嗎？

That it's like jade, it's beautiful like a piece of jade.

它就像一塊玉，美得像一塊玉。

Bringing a flashlight is a good way to find out if it's jade or not, because if it's translucent or semi-translucent and it's green, more than likely a piece of jade.