Name: 特朗普在憤怒的白宮會議上指責澤倫斯基 "拿第三次世界大戰做賭注" | BBC News (Trump accuses Zelensky of 'gambling with World War Three' in angry White House meeting | BBC News)
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Duration: 14 min 8 s

分詞構句

They were talking about this deal that has been agreed, that they're due to sign later after this bilateral meeting, relating to a sort of joint investment fund co-managed by US and Ukraine in terms of monetising minerals which are in Ukraine that have not yet been mined and that those funds would go towards rebuilding Ukraine, they would go towards paying back the US for some of the military aid that it's already committed to Ukraine.

他們談到了已達成的協議，雙方將在此次雙邊會談後簽署協議，內容涉及由美國和烏克蘭共同管理的聯合投資基金，將烏克蘭境內尚未開採的礦產貨幣化，這些資金將用於重建烏克蘭，用於償還美國已承諾向烏克蘭提供的部分軍事援助。

過去完成式

But that deal hasn't been signed yet and President Zelensky coming here today looking for that security backstop as he said to President Trump, he trusted President Putin on a deal once before and President Putin hadn't kept up his side of the agreement, but President Trump has said to President Zelensky in the Oval Office what he said to the UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer yesterday, what he said to the French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday, which is, I'm not talking about a security backstop until we get to a deal on peace.

但協議尚未簽署，澤楞斯基總統今天來到這裡尋求安全後盾，正如他對特朗普總統所說的那樣，他之前曾在一項協議上信任過普京總統，但普京總統沒有遵守他的協議，但特朗普總統在橢圓形辦公室對澤楞斯基總統說了他昨天對英國首相基爾-斯塔默爵士所說的話，以及他週一對法國總統埃馬紐埃爾-馬克龍所說的話，那就是，在我們達成和平協議之前，我不會談論安全後盾。

He said to President Zelensky when we're talking about security, that's the easy part, he said, which means we're at a ceasefire and we're at peace and President Zelensky said, I'm not doing a ceasefire deal until there is a security backstop.

他對澤倫斯基總統說，當我們談論安全問題時，這是最簡單的部分，他說，這意味著我們實現了停火，我們實現了和平，而澤倫斯基總統說，在沒有安全支持之前，我不會達成停火協議。

And then the meeting got quite heated, we're told, from our journalist colleagues who were in the room with President Trump and President Zelensky, they said, raising their voices there in that meeting in the Oval Office and we have that tape for you now, we can bring it to you.

我們的記者同事告訴我們，當時特朗普總統和澤倫斯基總統都在房間裡，他們說，在橢圓形辦公室的那次會議上，他們提高了嗓門。

Well, if I didn't align myself with both of them, you'd never have a deal.

好吧，如果我不和他們倆結盟，你們就永遠也做不成交易。

You want me to say really terrible things about Putin and then say, hi, Vladimir, how are we doing on the deal?

你想讓我說普京的壞話，然後說，嗨，弗拉基米爾，協議談得怎麼樣了？

I'm aligned with the United States of America.

And for the good of the world, I'm aligned with the world.

為了世界的利益，我與世界結盟。

You see the hatred he's got for Putin, it's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.

你看到他對普京的仇恨，我很難與這種仇恨做交易。

But I can tell you the other side isn't exactly in love with, you know, him either.

但我可以告訴你，對方也並不愛他。

I want to see if we can get this thing done.

我想看看我們能不能完成這件事。

I could be tougher than any human being you've ever seen.

我可能比你見過的任何人都要堅強。

But you're never going to get a deal that way.

So look, for four years, the United States of America, we had a president who stood up at press conferences and talked tough about Vladimir Putin.

所以，聽著，四年來，美利堅合眾國有一位總統在新聞發佈會上站出來，對弗拉基米爾-普京大放厥詞。

And then Putin invaded Ukraine and destroyed a significant chunk of the country.

然後，普京入侵烏克蘭，摧毀了該國的大片領土。

The path to peace and the path to prosperity is maybe engaging in diplomacy.

通往和平與繁榮的道路或許就是參與外交。

We tried the pathway of Joe Biden of thumping our chest and pretending that the president of the United States' words mattered more than the president of the United States' actions.

我們試過喬-拜登的辦法，即捶胸頓足，假裝美國總統的言辭比美國總統的行動更重要。

What makes America a good country is America engaging in diplomacy.

美國之所以是一個好國家，就在於美國參與外交。

這就是特朗普總統正在做的事情。

So he occupied our parts, big parts of Ukraine, parts of East and Crimea.

是以，他佔領了我們的部分地區、烏克蘭的大部分地區、東部和克里米亞的部分地區。

So during a lot of years, I'm not speaking about just Biden, but those time was Obama, then President Obama, then President Trump, then President Biden, now President Trump.

所以在很多年裡，我說的不僅僅是拜登，而是奧巴馬，然後是奧巴馬總統，然後是特朗普總統，然後是拜登總統，現在是特朗普總統。

But during 2014 till 2022, the situation was the same.

但在 2014 年至 2022 年期間，情況依然如此。

People have been dying on the contact line.

You know that we had conversations with him, a lot of conversation, my bilateral conversation.

你知道，我們和他談過話，談了很多，我的雙邊會談。

And we signed with him, me, like a new president in 2019, I signed with him the deal.

我們和他簽了合同，我，就像 2019 年的新總統，我和他簽了合同。

我和他，馬克龍和默克爾都簽了字。

我們簽署了停火協議，停火協議。

All of them told me that he will never go.

他們都告訴我，他永遠不會走。

We signed him gas contract, gas contract.

我們給他簽了天然氣合同，天然氣合同。

但在那之後，他破壞了停火協議。

He killed our people and he didn't exchange prisoners.

他殺了我們的人，卻不交換戰俘。

We signed the exchange of prisoners, but he didn't do it.

我們簽署了交換戰俘的協議，但他沒有這麼做。

What kind of diplomacy, JD, you are speaking about?

I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end the destruction of your country.  But if you are not...

我說的是那種能結束國家毀滅的外交手段  但是，如果你們不...

Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media.

總統先生，恕我直言，我認為您走進橢圓形辦公室，試圖在美國媒體面前提起訴訟，這是對美國的不尊重。

Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have manpower problems.

現在，你們四處奔走，強迫新兵上前線，因為你們有人力問題。

You should be thanking the president for trying to bring an end to this conflict.

你們應該感謝總統試圖結束這場衝突。

Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have?

I have actually watched and seen the stories and I know what happens is you bring people, you bring them on a propaganda tour, Mr. President.

總統先生，我確實看了，也看到了這些故事，我知道發生了什麼，你帶著人們，帶著他們進行宣傳之旅。

Do you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?

您是否不同意您在軍隊中遇到的問題？

And do you think that it's respectful to come to the Oval Office of the United States of America and attack the administration that is trying to prevent the destruction of your country?

你認為來到美利堅合眾國的橢圓形辦公室，攻擊試圖阻止你們國家毀滅的政府，是一種尊重嗎？

First of all, during the war, everybody has problems.

首先，在戰爭期間，每個人都會遇到問題。

Even you, but you have a nice ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.

即使是你，但你有一片美麗的海洋，現在感覺不到，但將來會感覺到的。

Because you're in no position to dictate that.

You're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.

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