It's an honor to have President Zelensky of Ukraine.

很榮幸請到了烏克蘭的澤連斯基總統。

And we've been working very hard, very close.

我們一直在努力工作，非常緊密。

So we've actually known each other for a long time.

所以，我們其實認識很久了。

We've been dealing with each other for a long time and very well.

我們長期以來一直在打交道，而且打得很好。

We had little negotiations back, but that worked out great, I think, for both countries,

我們之間的談判很少，但我認為這對兩國都很有利、

I think for the world, actually, beyond both countries.

實際上，我認為這對全世界來說都是如此，超出了兩國的範圍。

And we have something that is a very fair deal.

我們的交易非常公平。

And we look forward to getting in and digging, digging, digging, and working and getting some of the rare earth.

我們期待著進入現場，挖掘、挖掘、挖掘、工作，並獲得一些稀土。

But it means we're going to be inside, and it's a big commitment from the United States.

但這意味著我們將在裡面，這是美國的一個重大承諾。

And we appreciate working with you very much.

我們非常感謝與你們的合作。

And we will continue to do that.

我們將繼續這樣做。

We have had some very good discussions with Russia.

我們與俄羅斯進行了一些很好的討論。

I spoke with President Putin, and we're going to try and bring this to a close.

我與普京總統通了話，我們將努力結束這一切。

It's something that you want and that he wants.

這是你想要的，也是他想要的。

We have to negotiate a deal.

我們必須通過談判達成協議。

But we've started the confines of a deal, and I think something can happen.

但我們已經開始了交易的框架，我認為會有結果的。

The big thing is the number of soldiers, mostly at this point, but soldiers being killed, they're losing thousands of soldiers.

最大的問題是阿兵哥的數量，目前主要是阿兵哥被殺，他們損失了數千名阿兵哥。

Well, on both sides, we're losing a lot of soldiers, and we want to see it stop.

雙方都損失了大量阿兵哥，我們希望看到這種情況停止。

And we want to see the money get put to different kinds of use, like rebuilding, the rebuilding.

我們希望看到這筆錢被用於不同的用途，比如重建，重建。

And we're going to be working very hard.

我們會非常努力地工作。

But we've had a lot of very good conversations.

但我們進行了很多非常愉快的對話。

I will say, until we came along, the Biden administration didn't speak to Russia whatsoever.

我要說的是，在我們上臺之前，拜登政府從未與俄羅斯談過任何話。

They didn't speak to anybody.

他們沒有和任何人說話。

They just allowed this to continue.

他們只是允許這種情況繼續下去。

And I will say that — I'll say in front of you, you've heard me say it a thousand times — if I were president, this war would have never happened.

我要說--我在你們面前說，你們已經聽我說過無數次了--如果我是總統，這場戰爭就不會發生。

We would have had a deal negotiated for you without having to go through what you've gone through.

我們本可以為你談成一筆交易，而不必經歷你所經歷的一切。

But you — your soldiers have been unbelievably brave.

但是，你們--你們的阿兵哥表現出了令人難以置信的勇氣。

We've given them great equipment, but if somebody has to use the equipment, they've been unbelievably brave.

我們給了他們很好的設備，但如果有人必須使用這些設備，他們就會表現得異常勇敢。

And we give them great credit.

我們為他們點贊。

This was supposed to be over very quickly, and here we are three years later.

這一切本應很快結束，但三年後的今天卻發生了這樣的事情。

So I give tremendous credit to your generals and your soldiers and yourself, in the sense that it's been very hard fighting, very tough fighting.

是以，我對你們的將軍、阿兵哥和你們自己給予極大的信任，因為這是一場非常艱苦的戰鬥，非常艱難的戰鬥。

They're great fighters, and you have to be very proud of them from that standpoint.

他們都是偉大的戰士，從這個角度來說，你必須為他們感到驕傲。

But now we want to get it over with.

但現在我們想快點結束。

It's enough, right, if we want to get it over with.

如果我們想一勞永逸的話，這就足夠了。

So it's an honor to have you here.

很榮幸您能來到這裡。

Thank you very much for coming.

非常感謝你們的到來。

I think we're going to sign the agreement at the conference in the East Room in a little while, right after lunch.

我想我們馬上就要在東廳的會議上籤署協議了，就在午餐後。

And we'll be having lunch together.

我們會一起吃午飯。

We're also discussing some other things.

我們還在討論其他一些事情。

And we appreciate everybody being here.

感謝大家的到來。

It's somewhat of an exciting moment.

這是一個令人興奮的時刻。

But the really exciting moment is when we get a — when they stop the shooting and we end up with a deal.

但真正令人興奮的時刻是，他們停止了拍攝，我們最終達成了協議。

And I think we're fairly close to getting that, and an honor to have you.

我想我們就快成功了，很榮幸能邀請到你。

And please, would you like to say something?

請你說幾句好嗎？

Yeah.

是啊

Thank you so much, Mr. President.

非常感謝，主席先生。

Thank you for invitation.

感謝您的邀請。

And really, I hope that this document, first document, will be first step to real security guarantees for Ukraine, our people, our children.

實際上，我希望這份文件，第一份文件，將成為烏克蘭、我們的人民、我們的孩子獲得真正安全保障的第一步。

I really count on it.

我真的指望它。

And of course, we count that America will not stop support.

當然，我們也相信美國不會停止支持。

Really, for us, it's very important to support and to continue it.

真的，對我們來說，支持並繼續開展這項活動非常重要。

I want to discuss it with details further during our conversation.

我想在我們的談話中進一步詳細討論這個問題。

And of course, the infrastructure or security guarantees.

當然，還有基礎設施或安全保障。

Because for today, I understand what Europe is ready to do.

因為就今天而言，我明白歐洲準備做什麼。

And of course, I want to discuss with you what United States will be ready to do.

當然，我想與你們討論美國將準備做些什麼。

And I really count on your strong position to stop Putin.

我真的指望你的堅定立場來阻止普京。

And you said that enough with the war.

你說過，戰爭已經夠多了。

I think that it's very important, Ben, to say these words to Putin at the very beginning — at the very beginning of war, because he is a killer and terrorist.

本，我認為在戰爭一開始就對普京說這些話非常重要，因為他是一個殺手和恐怖分子。

And I hope that together we can stop him.

我希望我們能一起阻止他。

But for us, it's very important to save our country, our values, our freedom and democracy.

但對我們來說，拯救我們的國家、我們的價值觀、我們的自由和民主非常重要。

And of course, no compromises with the killer about our territories.

當然，也不能在我們的領土問題上向凶手妥協。

But it will be later.

但這是遲早的事。

And of course, what I wanted — you know, we spoke about it by phone with you, about the drone's production.

當然，我想要的是--你知道，我們在電話裡和你談到過，關於無人機的生產。

We have very good drone's production.

我們的無人機產量很高。

I think the best one in the world for today because of the war.

我認為，由於戰爭的原因，這是當今世界上最好的一個。

Yes, and of course, we need very much the air defense.

是的，當然，我們也非常需要防空。

You have the best air defense in the world.

你們擁有世界上最好的防空力量。

And really, you helped us under attacks of Russians.

真的，在俄國人的攻擊下，你幫助了我們。

And I want to speak how we can exchange the licenses.

我想談談如何交換許可證。

We're open to share the licenses of all our drones with you, of course, with the United

我們願意與你們分享我們所有無人機的許可證，當然，也願意與聯合

States.

各州。

And we need licenses for quick production of air defense.

我們需要快速生產防空武器的許可證。

Even after the war, we need our nation to be calm, that we are secure.

即使在戰後，我們也需要我們的國家保持冷靜，我們是安全的。

That's why we need this air shield.

這就是為什麼我們需要這個空氣防護罩。

And of course, about this, I want to speak about the contingents.

當然，關於這一點，我想談談特遣隊。

I think that France and UK already spoke to you.

我想法國和英國已經跟你談過了。

And we know that Europe is ready.

我們知道，歐洲已經做好了準備。

But without United States, they will not be ready to be as strong as we need.

但是，如果沒有美國，他們將無法像我們需要的那樣強大。

And then the last point, last but not least, about exchange, about our people and children.

最後一點，也是最重要的一點，是關於交流，關於我們的人民和兒童。

We know that this crazy Russian, that they stole 20,000 of children, Ukrainian children.

我們知道，這個瘋狂的俄羅斯人偷走了 2 萬名兒童，烏克蘭兒童。

They changed their names.

他們改了名字。

They changed their families, relatives.

他們改變了自己的家庭和親戚。

And now they're in Russia.

現在他們在俄羅斯。

We want to bring them back.

我們想讓他們回來。

And really, it's a big, big dream, task and goal for me and our warriors.

對我和我們的勇士來說，這確實是一個很大很大的夢想、任務和目標。

By the way, Mr. President, we brought, we exchanged, we just released more than 4,000 warriors from Russian prison, but there are thousands more in the prison.

順便說一句，總統先生，我們帶來了、交換了、剛剛從俄羅斯監獄釋放了 4000 多名戰士，但監獄裡還有數千人。

I wanted to share with you some images.

我想與大家分享一些圖片。

How, just, just, can I, can I, can I now?

我，我，我現在能做什麼？

Yeah, please.

是啊，請。

One minute, one minute, just you to understand what, in what circumstances, in what situation they are, and what the attitude of Russia to our prisoners.

一分鐘，一分鐘，只要你瞭解他們在什麼情況下，處於什麼境地，以及俄羅斯對我們的戰俘持什麼態度。

Bad guys, just you before, before and after, you see, before and after, just you to understand.

壞人，只是你之前，之前和之後，你看，之前和之後，只是你要明白。

Now thousands of such guys, ladies and men, they are, and that, so they don't eat, they beat them and they, you know, a lot of, a lot of, you know, bad things.

現在有成千上萬這樣的人，女士們和男士們，他們不吃東西，他們打他們，他們，你知道，很多，很多，你知道，不好的事情。

So out of, even during the war, there are rules, everybody knows, there are rules during the war.

是以，即使在戰爭期間，也有一些規則，每個人都知道，戰爭期間是有規則的。

Bad guys, they don't have any rules, you see that, 50, 60 kilograms left, and, and a lot of such things, and I didn't want to show you what, what the changes with images of children, because I will share, just share with you, and, I mean, it's looking tragic.

壞人，他們沒有任何規則，你看，還剩下 50、60 公斤，還有很多這樣的東西，我不想向你展示什麼，兒童影像的變化，因為我將與你分享，只是與你分享，我的意思是，它看起來很悲慘。

No, it's tough stuff.

不，這是很艱難的事情。

Yeah, yeah, I wanted very much to, to give you, you see, this is pastor, by the way, the stolen pastors, because it's not Russian church, the stolen pastors, and moved pastors to the prison.

是的，是的，我非常想，給你，你看，這是牧師，順便說一句，被偷走的牧師，因為它不是俄羅斯教堂，被偷走的牧師，並移動牧師到監獄。

We, at the end of last year, we, we brought three pastors, and we, we could exchange them, and this is pastor, you see, like.

去年年底，我們帶來了三位牧師，我們可以交換他們，這位就是牧師，你看，就像。

Yeah, it's tough.

是的，這很難。

Yeah, so I mean, this, I wanted to show you, and this, so thank you very much.

是的，我是說，這個，我想給你看看，還有這個，非常感謝。

We want to get that ended, correct?

我們想結束這一切，對嗎？

Yeah, of course.

是的，當然。

Of course we will.

我們當然會。

I think we will.

我想我們會的。

I think we will.

我想我們會的。

And, of course.

當然還有

Do you have any questions, please?

請問您還有什麼問題嗎？

Thank you, Mr. President.

謝謝您，主席先生。

With the, how much money is the U.S. going to put into the fund that, that is being created today?

美國將為今天成立的基金投入多少資金？

And how does this provide long-term security for Ukraine?

這又如何保障烏克蘭的長期安全？

Well, we don't know exactly how much, because we're going to be putting some money in a fund that we're going to get from the raw earth that we're going to be taking and sharing in terms of revenue.

我們不知道具體有多少錢，因為我們將把一些錢存入一個基金，這個基金將從我們要開採和分享的原土收入中獲得。

So it's going to be a lot of money.

是以，這將是一大筆錢。

A lot of money will be made from the U.S.

將從美國賺大錢。

And, as you know, our country doesn't have much raw earth.

而且，如你所知，我們國家的原土並不多。

We have a lot of oil and gas, but we don't have a lot of the raw earth.

我們有很多石油和天然氣，但我們沒有很多原土。

And what we do have is protected by the United States.

我們所擁有的一切都受到美國的保護。

We have a lot of oil, and we have a lot of gas.

我們有大量的石油和天然氣。

But we don't have a lot of the raw earth.

但我們沒有大量的原土。

So it's going to be a lot of money.

是以，這將是一大筆錢。

And, of course, we're going to be putting some money into fund that is going to be created today?

當然，我們還要為今天成立的基金投入一些資金？

And how does this provide long-term security for Ukraine?

這又如何保障烏克蘭的長期安全？

Well, we don't know exactly how much, because we're going to be putting some money in a fund that we're going to get from the raw earth that we're going to be taking and sharing in terms of revenue.

我們不知道具體有多少錢，因為我們將把一些錢存入一個基金，這個基金將從我們要開採和分享的原土收入中獲得。

So it's going to be a lot of money.

是以，這將是一大筆錢。

A lot of money will be made from the sale and from the use of raw earth.

通過銷售和使用生土，可以賺到很多錢。

And, as you know, our country doesn't have much raw earth.

而且，如你所知，我們國家的原土並不多。

We have a lot of oil and gas, but we don't have a lot of the raw earth.

我們有很多石油和天然氣，但我們沒有很多原土。

And what we do have is protected by the environmentalists, but that could be unprotected.

我們所擁有的東西受到環保主義者的保護，但也可能不受保護。

But still, it's not very much.

但還是不多。

They have among the best in the world in terms of raw earth.

他們擁有世界上最好的原土。

So we're going to be using that, taking it, using it for all of the things we do, including

是以，我們將利用它，把它用於我們所做的所有事情，包括

AI and including weapons and the military.

人工智能，包括武器和軍事。

And it's really going to very much satisfy our needs.

它確實能極大地滿足我們的需求。

So it's something that just worked out really well.

所以，這一切都非常順利。

We have a lot of oil and we have a lot of gas.

我們有大量的石油和天然氣。

We have a lot, but we don't have raw earth.

我們有很多，但我們沒有原土。

So this this has just about every component of the raw earth that we need for computers, for all of the things we do, which puts us in great shape and a long term security free environment.

是以，我們的電腦和我們所做的一切，幾乎都離不開地球上的每一個元素，這讓我們有了一個良好的環境和一個長期無憂的安全環境。

I think they're going to have great luck.

我認為他們會很幸運。

I think once we make the agreement, that's going to be 95 percent of it.

我認為，一旦我們達成了協議，這將是 95% 的事情。

It's not going to go back to fighting.

它不會再回去戰鬥了。

I've spoken with President Putin, and I think I mean, I feel very strong.

我已經和普京總統談過了，我想我的意思是，我感覺非常強烈。

I've known him for a long time and I feel very strongly that they're very serious about it and will be everyone's talking about the other day.

我認識他很久了，我強烈地感覺到，他們對這件事非常認真，會成為大家前幾天談論的話題。

All they talked about was security.

他們談論的都是安全問題。

I said, let me make the deal first.

我說，讓我先做交易。

I have to make the deal first.

我得先做交易。

I don't worry about security right now.

我現在不擔心安全問題。

I have to we have to have a deal because right now, last week, 2000 soldiers died on both sides.

我們必須達成協議，因為就在上週，雙方有 2000 名阿兵哥喪生。

Two thousand, a thousand, two thousand, three thousand a week.

每週兩千、一千、兩千、三千。

So as we sit here and we talk, people are getting shot and dying on the battlefield.

當我們坐在這裡談話時，戰場上有人中彈，有人死去。

And you know, they're not American soldiers, but they're Russian soldiers and the Ukrainian soldiers.

你知道，他們不是美國士兵，而是俄羅斯阿兵哥和烏克蘭阿兵哥。

And we want to be able to stop it and we want to be able also to spend money on other things.

我們希望能夠阻止它，也希望能夠把錢花在其他地方。

We don't want to.

我們不想

This is a tremendous amount of money.

這是一筆鉅款。

And what the Biden administration did was terrible.

拜登政府的所作所為非常糟糕。

They were giving money, but he had no security on the money.

他們給了錢，但他的錢沒有保障。

Europe, as you know, gave much less money, but they had security.

大家都知道，歐洲給的錢要少得多，但他們有安全保障。

It was in the form of a loan to get their money back.

這是以貸款的形式來拿回他們的錢。

And we didn't.

但我們沒有。

And now at least we're protected because the American taxpayer has to be protected, too.

現在至少我們受到了保護，因為美國納稅人也必須受到保護。

But this is an incredible agreement for Ukraine, because we have a big investment in their country now.

但對於烏克蘭來說，這是一項令人難以置信的協議，因為我們現在在他們國家有大量投資。

And what what they have, very few people have.

而他們所擁有的，很少有人能擁有。

And we're able to really go forward with very, very high tech things and many other things, including weaponry, weaponry that we're going to use in many locations, but that we need for our country.

我們能夠真正推進非常、非常高科技的東西和許多其他東西，包括武器裝備，我們將在許多地方使用的武器裝備，但我們的國家需要這些武器裝備。

This allows us to do this.

這使我們能夠做到這一點。

Yes, go ahead, please.

好的，請說。

Yeah, I can just say, yes, in the document, there is one of the very important points if we speak about business and investment.

是的，我只能說，是的，在文件中，如果我們談及商業和投資，有一個非常重要的觀點。

We never had LNG terminals in Ukraine.

烏克蘭從未有過液化天然氣終端。

This document will open, I mean, the next document.

這個文件將打開，我是說，下一個文件。

But anyway, here we see in the framework where we see we see a really good deal for this.

但無論如何，我們在這裡看到了一個非常好的交易框架。

LNG terminals for us is very important.

液化天然氣終端對我們來說非常重要。

And I think for security of European continent, we have the biggest storage, gas storage.

我認為，為了歐洲大陸的安全，我們擁有最大的儲氣庫。

We have the biggest in Europe.

我們擁有歐洲最大的

Yes, it's.

是的

Yeah.

是啊

And we can use it.

我們可以利用它。

Because for LNG, we use it for LNG and we will do it.

因為對於液化天然氣來說，我們將其用於液化天然氣，而且我們會這樣做。

And really, we we can help Europe because Europe really helped.

實際上，我們可以幫助歐洲，因為歐洲真的幫了我們。

President Trump said that they made less support, but they are our friends and they are our very supportive partners.

特朗普總統說，他們提供的支持較少，但他們是我們的朋友，是我們非常支持的合作伙伴。

They really gave a lot, Mr. President, really they did.

他們真的付出了很多，總統先生，真的。

They gave a lot, but they gave much less.

他們付出了很多，但卻少得可憐。

No.

不

Much less.

少得多。

No.

不

No.

不

No.

不

OK.

好的。

OK.

好的。

Mr. President Trump, you have repeatedly called the deal with Ukraine as a historical one.

特朗普總統先生，您曾多次稱與烏克蘭達成的協議是歷史性的。

And as the president of the United States, you make historical decisions in other issues which affect America and other world.

而作為美國總統，你要在影響美國和世界的其他問題上做出歷史性的決定。