Matthew it's horrible, I mean this would be one of those days that really changed the soul of Sweden, we're captured in violence and it's horrible and the news that 10 people have been victimised in this kind of violence is horrific and everybody is on their toes now, everybody, I mean citizens, police, hospitals, politicians, everybody, there's nothing else in the news in Sweden right now but about this.

馬修，這太可怕了，我的意思是，這將是真正改變瑞典靈魂的日子之一，我們被暴力俘虜了，這太可怕了，有10人在這種暴力中受害的消息太可怕了，現在每個人都提心吊膽，每個人，我是說市民、警察、醫院、政客，每個人，現在瑞典的新聞中除了這件事沒有別的了。

No I'm absolutely sure of that, just tell me some of the basic details that have been reported where you are.

不，我非常確定，只要告訴我你所在地區報告的一些基本細節就可以了。

Well it happened right after lunch at about 12.30 that they started to hear sounds that turned out to be the man shooting, what is believed to be this 35 year old man shooting and I understand that the police was rather fast at the scene, remember this area where this school is, is a really peaceful, beautiful area of Örebro, I used to live there, I lived there for 10 years and something like this is just unimaginable and then all through the afternoon we've been following the news where they haven't really confirmed anything but that there had been the shooting and there were rumours that one person was killed and that the shooter had committed suicide and so forth, we heard that 6 people had been taken to the hospital and that was it until this press conference now when they confirmed that 10 people have died today, this afternoon.

午飯後大約12.據我所知，警察很快就趕到了現場，記得這所學校所在的區域是厄勒布魯一個非常寧靜、美麗的區域，我曾經住在那裡、整個下午，我們都在關注新聞，他們並沒有真正證實任何事情，只是說發生了槍擊事件，有傳言說有一人被殺，槍手自殺了等等，我們聽說有六人被送往醫院，直到今天下午的新聞發佈會，他們才證實今天下午有十人死亡。

Some of the details coming in as we're speaking now with police also saying they had no warning signs, what is being said about the perpetrator, what is known about him?

在我們採訪的過程中，警方也表示他們沒有任何警示跡象，那麼關於行凶者，人們都知道些什麼呢？

Not much, what I understand is that they have raided his apartment in Örebro to find clues and motives and so far we haven't heard much at all.

我瞭解到的情況是，他們突襲了他在厄勒布魯的公寓，以尋找線索和動機。

You used to live in the town as you told us, you still have friends who are there, in terms of the conversations you've had, give me a sense of how people are taking in absorbing news like this because this is Sweden we're talking about, you know, I can't remember off the top of my head anything remotely like this happening in recent years.

正如你告訴我們的那樣，你曾經住在那個小鎮上，你還有朋友在那裡，從你的談話中，讓我感受到人們是如何吸收這樣的新聞的，因為我們現在談論的是瑞典，你知道，我不記得近年來發生過任何類似的事情。

No Matthew, this is unheard of in Sweden and yes of course I've talked to multiple friends this afternoon in Örebro and had contact with them and I know traumatised might be a strong word but we are in a sense because this is so, this is so scary that this is happening.

不，馬修，這在瑞典是聞所未聞的。當然，今天下午我在厄勒布魯與多位朋友進行了交談，並與他們取得了聯繫，我知道 "精神創傷 "可能是一個很強烈的詞，但從某種意義上說，我們確實受到了創傷，因為發生這樣的事情實在是太可怕了。

So I think we're traumatised and now they have a lot of conflict centres in Örebro where people who need to talk about it, relatives, neighbours, just anyone, you know, we need to take care of a lot of people who have been affected in one way or the other by this and they have a lot of centres in Sweden doing that, not just the church but also at the hospital.

是以，我認為我們受到了創傷。現在，他們在厄勒布魯設立了許多衝突中心，在那裡，需要傾訴的人們、親屬、鄰居、任何人，你知道，我們需要照顧許多受到這種或那種影響的人們，瑞典有許多中心都在這樣做，不僅僅是教堂，還有醫院。

A brief final thought then, the Prime Minister has already put out a statement but I'm sure there'll be updated statements given the developments of the last five or ten minutes, what do people want to hear from the Prime Minister?

最後一個簡短的想法，首相已經發表了聲明，但鑑於過去五到十分鐘的事態發展，我相信還會有更新的聲明，人們想從首相那裡聽到什麼？

I think they want to hear that the different political parties in Sweden are coming together to fight something like this, not making politics of it but making it on a national agenda to come together and discuss what needs to be done.

我認為，他們希望聽到瑞典的不同政黨走到一起，共同對抗這樣的事情，而不是將其政治化，而是將其列入國家議程，一起討論需要做些什麼。

Nina, we have to leave it there, Nina Jelmgren, a journalist who lived in that town until recently, thank you for joining us here and just to confirm what police have been saying in that news conference, it's still going on so we'll bring you more detail if it comes in that is significant but confirming that ten people have died in this school shooting, they believe that the man acted alone, they say that he is one of the fatalities and of course a number of other people have been taken to hospital and we knew that operations were going on earlier in the day so some of the latest painful details that have been emerging from that news conference.

尼娜，我們必須把它放在那裡，尼娜-傑爾姆格倫，一個記者，誰住在那個小鎮，直到最近，謝謝你在這裡加入我們的行列，只是為了證實警方一直在說什麼，在新聞發佈會上，它仍然在繼續，所以我們會給你帶來更多的細節，如果它是重大的，但確認10人死亡在這所學校的槍殺案、他們認為該男子是單獨行動，他們說他是死者之一，當然還有其他一些人被送往醫院，我們知道今天早些時候正在進行手術，所以新聞發佈會上出現了一些最新的令人痛苦的細節。