Name: 我不會被你們欺負"：帕姆-邦迪與民主黨參議員希夫和帕迪利亞發生衝突 ('I’m not going to be bullied by you': Pam Bondi clashes with Dem Senators Schiff and Padilla)
Uploaded: 2025-01-17T17:22:47.000Z
Duration: 16 min 23 s

Do you have any evidence of election fraud or irregularities in the 2020 election?

您是否有任何證據表明 2020 年大選中存在選舉舞弊或違規行為？

是還是不是？這是一個 "是 "或 "否 "的問題。

You pointed your finger at me and said you were speaking.

You did not seem to be familiar with the citizenship clause, the 14th amendment.

你似乎並不熟悉公民權條款，即第 14 修正案。

I'm here to answer your questions. I'm not here to do your homework and study for you.

我是來回答你的問題的。我不是來替你做作業和學習的。

Senator, no one has asked me to investigate Liz Cheney. That is a hypothetical.

參議員，沒有人要求我調查利茲-切尼。這只是一個假設。

The president has called for it publicly. You are aware of that, aren't you?

總統已經公開呼籲了。你知道這一點吧？

We're also worried about Liz Cheney, senator.

You know what we should be worried about?

The crime rate in California right now is three of the roof.

加州目前的犯罪率是世界上最高的。

Your robberies are 87% higher than the national average.

你們的搶劫案比全國平均水平高出 87%。

That's what I want to be focused on, senator.

Do you have the power to say no to the president?

Senator, what I can tell you is I will never play politics.

參議員，我可以告訴你的是，我永遠不會玩弄政治。

If you can speak truth to power, so let me ask you another.

如果你能用事實說話，那我再問你一個問題。

Like you did leaking your colleague Devin Nunez's memo.

就像你洩露你同事德文-努涅斯的備忘錄一樣。

I just want to remind us all for the record that the 34 convictions, not indictments, convictions of former president, incoming president Trump were by a jury of his peers.

我只想鄭重提醒大家，對前總統、即將上任的總統特朗普的34項定罪，而不是起訴，是由他的同儕陪審團做出的。

Thank you, Ms. Bondi, for being here today.

邦迪女士，感謝您今天的光臨。

And I, too, would like to welcome your family and friends who are here.

我也歡迎你們的家人和朋友來到這裡。

Appreciate the opportunity to meet yesterday to learn about your priorities and discuss a number of issues that are important to me.

感謝昨天有機會與您會面，瞭解您的工作重點，並討論了一些對我很重要的問題。

But I got to tell you, as I reflected on our conversation yesterday, and as I've observed the hearing today,

但我得告訴你，當我回想我們昨天的談話時，當我觀察今天的聽證會時、

I continue to have significant reservations on your ability to function as a truly independent attorney general for your friend.

我仍然對你作為你朋友真正獨立的總檢察長的能力持重大保留意見。

Let's say you keep referring to him, your friend, president elect Trump.

比方說，你一直提到他，你的朋友，當選總統特朗普。

So I hope you can address some of these concerns through your responses to my questions here.

是以，我希望你們能通過回答我在這裡提出的問題來解決其中的一些問題。

Now, the first issue area is something that we didn't get a chance to touch on yesterday.

現在，第一個問題領域是我們昨天沒有機會觸及的。

So I actually want to follow up on some of Senator Durbin's questions from earlier about the 2020 election.

是以，我實際上想跟進杜賓參議員之前提出的關於2020年大選的一些問題。

And to be specific, on the day after the 2020 presidential general election, you traveled to Philadelphia to appear alongside

具體來說，在 2020 年總統大選後的第二天，你前往費城與

President Trump's then attorney, Rudy Giuliani.

特朗普總統當時的律師魯迪-朱利安尼。

And together, you falsely asserted that President Trump had, quote, won Pennsylvania in that election.

你們還一起謊稱，特朗普總統在那次選舉中贏得了賓夕法尼亞州。

And I want to be clear, at that moment, there were still at least a million ballots left to be counted in Pennsylvania.

我想說明的是，當時賓夕法尼亞州仍有至少一百萬張選票有待計票。

Of course, President Biden went on to win the state by more than 80,000 votes.

當然，拜登總統最終以 8 萬多票的優勢贏得了該州的選舉。

But in the following days, even after the results were clear, you continued to double down on the big lie, promoting falsehoods about election fraud and cheating without offering any actual evidence.

但在接下來的日子裡，甚至在結果已經明朗之後，你們仍在繼續重複彌天大謊，在沒有提供任何實際證據的情況下鼓吹選舉舞弊和作弊的謊言。

And I remember it clearly because I served as California Secretary of State at the time, and I invited anybody associated with the Trump campaign who was making these claims to come forward with evidence of irregularities in the election or massive voter fraud.

我記得很清楚，因為當時我擔任加利福尼亞州州務卿，我邀請任何與特朗普競選團隊有關聯的人，如果他們提出這些主張，請拿出選舉違規或大規模選民舞弊的證據。

Four years later, I still have seen none.

四年過去了，我還是一個也沒見過。

So I ask you today, do you have any evidence of election fraud or irregularities in the 2020 election?

所以我今天問你，你有任何證據表明 2020 年大選中存在選舉舞弊或違規行為嗎？

I'm so sorry about the fires to you and Senator Schiff and what you're going through in your states.

我對你和希夫參議員遭受的火災以及你們各州正在經歷的一切深表遺憾。

All of our hearts go out to everyone in California for what you're facing right now.

我們全心全意為加利福尼亞州的每一個人所面臨的困難而努力。

I'm glad you asked the question about Pennsylvania.

我很高興你問了關於賓夕法尼亞州的問題。

這是一個 "是 "或 "否 "的問題。

Senator, I was hoping you'd ask the question.

參議員，我希望你能提出這個問題。

參議員，我去過賓夕法尼亞州。

If you have no evidence to offer, let me ask you this.

如果你沒有證據，讓我問你一個問題。

Will you now retract your previous statements that Trump won Pennsylvania in the 2020 election?

你現在會收回之前關於特朗普在 2020 年大選中贏得賓夕法尼亞州的說法嗎？

哦，參議員，我去過賓夕法尼亞州。

And let me tell you what I saw firsthand.

I didn't talk about California because I was not in California.

我沒有談加州，因為我不在加州。

I talked about Pennsylvania because I was there.

我談到賓夕法尼亞州是因為我在那裡。

I'm going to move on because she's clearly not answering my questions.

我要走了，因為她顯然沒有回答我的問題。

And I want to know, colleagues, for everybody, for everybody, members of the committee and everybody watching, that the other, the attorney who stood beside Mr. Giuliani was making very similar statements.

我想知道，同事們，對每個人來說，對每個人來說，委員會成員和每個人都在看，另一個，站在朱利安尼先生身邊的律師發表了非常相似的聲明。

And he has since been disbarred from multiple jurisdictions for making these false claims about the 2020 election in court.

此後，他又因在法庭上對 2020 年大選發表虛假言論而被多個司法管轄區取消律師資格。

And like Mr. Giuliani, as you've noted today, you've taken an oath to uphold the Constitution just as an attorney.

和朱利安尼先生一樣，正如你今天所指出的，你作為一名律師宣誓維護憲法。

And now you're asking us to consider you to serve as the chief law enforcement officer in our country.

現在，你要求我們考慮讓你擔任我國的首席執法官。

So it's imperative, Ms. Bondi, that you subscribe to facts and evidence and not politically convenient conspiracy theories.

是以，邦迪女士，你必須接受事實和證據，而不是政治上方便的陰謀論。

Your job will be, I'm speaking, your job will be to protect voters and election workers, not to undermine and dox them.

你的工作是，我是說，你的工作是保護選民和選舉工作人員，而不是破壞和誹謗他們。

Now, I know that earlier you agreed that Joe Biden is, in fact, president, but many of the president-elect's inner circle continue to spread the big lie about the 2020 election.

現在，我知道你早些時候同意喬-拜登事實上是總統，但當選總統的許多核心圈子仍在繼續散佈關於2020年大選的彌天大謊。

參議員，您正在發言，我可以發言嗎？

I'm going to ask you the next question, you can speak, and I hope you answer, Ms. Bondi.

我將問你下一個問題，你可以發言，我希望你回答，邦迪女士。

Well, I'd like to answer the previous one, Senator.

參議員，我想回答前一個問題。

You did not seem to be familiar with the citizenship clause...

你似乎並不熟悉公民權條款......

I'm not going to be bullied by you, Senator Padilla.

我不會被你欺負的 帕迪拉參議員

...the 14th Amendment of the United States of America, which was deeply disappointing.

......美利堅合眾國第 14 修正案，這令人深感失望。

I guess you didn't want to hear my answer about Pennsylvania.

我猜你不想聽我關於賓夕法尼亞州的回答。

And I'm hoping you're more familiar with it today after I gave an opportunity to study overnight.

今天，我給了你們一個通宵學習的機會，希望你們對它更加熟悉。

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